Could America buy Greenland?

[boja]

From the BBC, 16 AUG 2019



I wonder WHY ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49367792

[Frank V]

Posted by boja (here)
I wonder WHY ?

Strategic interests of the US Empire. The USA already has a very prominent military presence there, and Greenland also offers an interesting prospect to the US corporations on account of its natural resources ─ mining, probably.

Anyway, no need to worry though. The Danish aren't going to sell Greenland anytime soon. It's not the first time the US has offered to buy Greenland from them.

[Kryztian]

This Facebook conversation appeared yesterday on the page of Cheryl Costa. Cheryl is a Ufologist and has appeared at a lot of conventions, as of late, I know her specialty has been in compiling a statistical compendium about UFO sightings. She has a sense of humor, but she can also be serious. If this conversation had erupted at any other time, I would have dismissed this as a fun exercise done with humor. But now I don't know.

Here are the relevant bits and pieces of a rather long Facebook conversation:

[James Newell]

When I was in the military I could have gone to Iceland, one of our bases there. I declined, but over all, with trillions in gas and oil and probably the strategic implications re the Northern hemisphere (Russian ICBMs) I am a bit surprised the US didn't make a bid on it earlier.

[Cara]

This analysis, from May 2017, may be pertinent here.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LvI7dUFEuz8

Published on May 9, 2017
Ongoing relations between China and Greenland are yet another strategic move by Beijing, which will also incorporate the OBOR initiative.

London Paul comments via his website, The Sirius Report (https://www.thesiriusreport.com/), and his (subscriber) podcasts on geopolitical and global economic issues.

[ichingcarpenter]

Denmark Offers to Buy US

COPENHAGEN (The Borowitz Report)—After rebuffing Donald J. Trump’s hypothetical proposal to purchase Greenland, the government of Denmark has announced that it would be interested in buying the United States instead.

“As we have stated, Greenland is not for sale,” a spokesperson for the Danish government said on Friday. “We have noted, however, that during the Trump regime pretty much everything in the United States, including its government, has most definitely been for sale.”

“Denmark would be interested in purchasing the United States in its entirety, with the exception of its government,” the spokesperson added.


A key provision of the purchase offer, the spokesperson said, would be the relocation of Donald Trump to another country “to be determined,” with Russia and North Korea cited as possible destinations.

If Denmark’s bid for the United States is accepted, the Scandinavian nation has ambitious plans for its new acquisition. “We believe that, by giving the U.S. an educational system and national health care, it could be transformed from a vast land mass into a great nation,” the spokesperson said.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/boro...fers-to-buy-us


My X and her man spent 2 years in Greenland as teachers and councilors. They didn't pay Danish taxes at this time and were able to fly back and forth for free. I met many Greenlanders when I lived in Denmark since our Danish was limited so we spoke Danglish. Trump according to my friends in Denmark has united Denmark for the first time in many years in agreement that he's not right in the head. Greenland is a goldmine for rare earth elements and other valuable resources. The Greenlanders and Danes know this and are not fools

[section9]

Did the Black Projects people find stuff there from Hyperborean Times?

[Iyakum]

Posted by Aragorn (here)

Posted by boja (here)
I wonder WHY ?

Strategic interests of the US Empire. The USA already has a very prominent military presence there, and Greenland also offers an interesting prospect to the US corporations on account of its natural resources ─ mining, probably.

Anyway, no need to worry though. The Danish aren't going to sell Greenland anytime soon. It's not the first time the US has offered to buy Greenland from them.

I agree with you @Aragorn, Strategic interests of the US gouvernment, but now is not the time and the president is not the right one, who knows if he will be re-elected, I hope not.

I do not think the denmark and the EU would agree to a purchase...

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Here's an interesting X thread on the territory of Greenland (currently belonging to Denmark) and Trump's bid to take possession of it.

https://x.com/ulriklykke/status/1879549870236975256

FULL THREAD:


I’m Danish.

I’m strongly in favour of striking a deal with Trump regarding Greenland.

Today, the state of Greenland is a mess economically and sociologically.

Here’s the big lines of why a deal with the United States is a win-win-win :

First off, it's important to understand just how massive Greenland is.

At 836,300 square miles:

• It could fit Germany inside 6 times

• It is larger than Alaska and Texas combined.

• From north to south, it spans over 2,670 km

Vast unharvested potential.



Greenland is a small economy and currently heavily dependent on Denmark.

Greenland's GDP is around $3B. Greenland is heavily dependent on Denmark and receives a yearly subsidy of ~$600 million. Denmark also provides infrastructure support and is responsible for Greenland’s defence.



Greenland has around 55.000 inhabitants and a total workforce of around 27.000. The unemployment rate is 3.7%, the lowest in recent years. This is good for the economy but also makes it difficult for companies to attract qualified people.

The backbone of Greenland's economy is its fishing industry which makes up for 98% of its exports.

Shrimp and halibut are the two most significant exports, with shrimp being the dominant catch.



Unfortunately, the island faces severe social issues:

• Highest rates of suicide in the world
• High murder rate and issues with domestic violence
• Highest alcohol consumption per capita worldwide

A stable future requires addressing root causes of these sad facts.



The country also has a big housing crisis:

The capital Nuuk has a shortage of 1,000+ homes, with 2,000+ people on waitlists for public housing.

High costs of housing is a key issue, as building in the Arctic is 30% more expensive.



Greenland's vast territory is a treasure chest of untapped resources.

Greenland has:

• 38.5 million tons of rare earth oxides
• Massive uranium deposits
• Vast oil and gas reserves
• Precious metals
• Some of the world's largest fresh water reserves

And all of these could become available with the right partnerships.



However, exploring such partnerships is not only up to Greenland.

For nearly 200 years, Denmark held full control of the island. It was not until 2009, Greenland gained self-rule, taking over most domestic affairs. Today, an independence movement in Greenland is is challenging Denmark's claim on the territory.



For context, Denmark is a small country of just 6 million people.

Despite being a wealthy country, the country is economically limited in its ability to support the development of Greenland.

Our country has neglected the opportunities and it now makes a lot of sense to explore partnership options.



Meanwhile, Trump is not playing games:

Trump already displayed interest for acquiring Greenland in 2019. At that time, his efforts quickly faded due to the corona pandemic. However, this time around his aggression on the topic cannot be mistaken.

Allegedly, the House Republicans are also already drafting legislation to provide greenlight of the Greenland negotiations.

Why's Trump so interested in Greenland?

There's several big reasons. One of them is the untapped natural resources in the country.

But the U.S. interest in Greenland is also strategic:

• Control of Arctic resources and trade routes.
• Geopolitical influence in the Arctic
• Military presence in a key region

All of the above are becoming more relevant in the future.

However, the people of Greenland needs to be onboard.

A few days ago, Prime ministers of Denmark and Greenland said in a joint press conference that Greenland is ready to explore independence.

Additionally, a poll showed that the people of Greenland is supporting that decision:

🔴 Denmark Independence 68%
🔵 Stay Denmark 32%

The people of Greenland wants independence.

Greenland’s path to independence could thrive with a free association with the U.S.

Here’s why:

• Access to investments for infrastructure and industry
• Strategic partnership in the Arctic
• Sovereignty while benefiting from U.S. economic and defense support

Greenland cannot achieve succesful independence without new partnerships or benefactors.

That begs the question what the price tag of such arrangement will be?

The Wall Street Journal did some napkin math on matter and ends up around $50B.

In my mind, this figure stands as good baseline for a down-payment for the partnership.

However, for a fair deal to be arranged a hefty "rent" for military bases and royalties on mineral exploitation must also be included.



A deal could benefit both Denmark, Greenland and the United States.

• United States wins dominance in a key territory.
• Denmark is relieved of a big economic burden.
• Greenland will benefit from massive investments for a better future.

All three countries should benefit heavily from the exploitation of the resources.

The deal is currently at a crossroad. Trump is pursuing this aggressively. Greenland seems open to discussion, and Denmark is currently playing it quiet via diplomatic ties.

Hopefully, a win-win-win is in the cards.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Going way out on a highly esoteric limb here... but is there another, deep-secret reason for Trump looking at Greenland? Is there something he knows (or believes) that others don't?

I'm referring to a future pole-shift scenario, a geomagnetic excursion and other potential earth-changes, like a Dzhanibekov Effect axial tilt that would re-draw the world-map. Some projections have the earth flipping over on its axis (see here for more), and it's possible, if that happens, Greenland will no longer be arctic, but equatorial.

A mostly-impenetrable slab of ice -- like Greenland -- would then become valuable real-estate, and if Trump loves one thing, it's real estate. Also, if the mainland US moves to unfavourable latitudes (Canada too) then the population, what survives of it, will need relocating.

Like I said, this is a reach, a personal musing that's way outside the box, but I thought it worth a mention.

Also, if the models of a flip are accurate, then you can be sure Trump knows about it (and perhaps has a plan in place).

This from last July:

Open Minded Approach
@OMApproach
Donald Trump knows about the 12,000-year cyclical event that causes mass extinction.

He knows that the geomagnetic excursion causes climate change. First, it gets warmer, the Earth's magnetic field significantly decreases, and we are exposed to more severe weather from space. The inner core releases heat into the oceans, glaciers melt, and then the slipping of the crust or changes in the Earth's rotation (Dzhanibekov effect) occur, which leads to a mass extinction event and much colder weather.

This happened 12,000 years ago (and 6,000 years ago on a smaller scale) during the Younger Dryas with the Gothenburg geomagnetic excursion.

But it’s not only Trump; Elon Musk knows too (see the video in the comments). The plan of the global 'elite' was leaked in 2010 (proof is also in the comments). That's why the 'elite' is building doomsday bunkers.
https://x.com/OMApproach/status/1816448621878952352

[onawah]

Ben Davidson of Space Weather News youtube channel (formerly "SuspiciousObservers") has all the information that the elites surely know as well, but he has been sharing the data for years on his channel, so it's not really all that esoteric or out-on-a-limb, though it's been kept hushed up.
There is a discussion with Davidson that was just posted here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1655002

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QK1YjOZE29M

... which is from last year, but is still very timely and covers many of the concerning issues mentioned in Star Mariner's post above.
Including the current data from many credible researchers from various branches of science (as well as prophecies and predictions from long ago and up to the present) ...which confirm the pole reversals and cataclysmic micronova events that have occurred every 6,000 and 12,000 years have been happening regularly for a very long time.
It is the planet's magnetism which keeps the continents in place, and when the magnetic layer has diminished sufficiently the continents migrate, causing huge tsunamis, earthquakes, volcanoes, etc., and lands which were freezing suddenly become warm and vice versa, while some lands sink and others rise.
The major events occur virtually overnight, although there will be increasingly aberrant weather over the years leading up to the final events, now predicted to occur sometime in the 2040s at the latest.
The micronova is the finale, which creates a huge but short-lived burst of heat from the Sun that hits the part of the Earth's surface which is facing the Sun.
Earth's diminishing magnetism and ozone layer are causing aberrant human behavior as well, and that has certainly become apparent in the last decade or so, and will no doubt be on the rise until the denoument.
Davidson also talks about who will survive and how, and provides a map of what the planet will likely look like after the fact, but he doesn't give a thumbsup to many of the elite's DUMBS which are far underground and will be subject to earthquakes (though they seem to have become more cognizant of that recently).

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hUutYHhj3MM

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qpILRrxCMiw

But I wouldn't pay much attention to Open Minded Approach, as he apparently doesn't realize that Luis Elizondo, Nolan and Tom DeLonge are esposed shills, which credible whistleblowers like Dark Journalist and Dr. Steven Greer have testified to and proven.
As for Greenland, the "Sleeping Prophet" Edgar Cayce predicted that Russia would become the breadbasket of the world after the changes, which indicates that Greenland will probably also become warm enough to be a source of exploitable resources.
Though Musk's plan to settle on Mars is extremely iffy, since it's not just Earth that is being affected by the solar cycle, it's the whole solar system (and every solar system in this galaxy, as the wave of energy coming can be traced back to the galactic core).

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
Going way out on a highly esoteric limb here... but is there another, deep-secret reason for Trump looking at Greenland? Is there something he knows (or believes) that others don't?

I'm referring to a future pole-shift scenario, a geomagnetic excursion and other potential earth-changes, like a Dzhanibekov Effect axial tilt that would re-draw the world-map. Some projections have the earth flipping over on its axis (see here for more), and it's possible, if that happens, Greenland will no longer be arctic, but equatorial.

A mostly-impenetrable slab of ice -- like Greenland -- would then become valuable real-estate, and if Trump loves one thing, it's real estate. Also, if the mainland US moves to unfavourable latitudes (Canada too) then the population, what survives of it, will need relocating.

Like I said, this is a reach, a personal musing that's way outside the box, but I thought it worth a mention.

Also, if the models of a flip are accurate, then you can be sure Trump knows about it (and perhaps has a plan in place).

This from last July:

Open Minded Approach
@OMApproach
Donald Trump knows about the 12,000-year cyclical event that causes mass extinction.

He knows that the geomagnetic excursion causes climate change. First, it gets warmer, the Earth's magnetic field significantly decreases, and we are exposed to more severe weather from space. The inner core releases heat into the oceans, glaciers melt, and then the slipping of the crust or changes in the Earth's rotation (Dzhanibekov effect) occur, which leads to a mass extinction event and much colder weather.

This happened 12,000 years ago (and 6,000 years ago on a smaller scale) during the Younger Dryas with the Gothenburg geomagnetic excursion.

But it’s not only Trump; Elon Musk knows too (see the video in the comments). The plan of the global 'elite' was leaked in 2010 (proof is also in the comments). That's why the 'elite' is building doomsday bunkers.
https://x.com/OMApproach/status/1816448621878952352

[ThePythonicCow]

Some cheeky Danes have responded to Trump by petitioning Denmark to buy California from U.S..

[mountain_jim]

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
Some cheeky Danes have responded to Trump by petitioning Denmark to buy California from U.S..

(Trump): Sounds like here's a deal to be made!

Actually too many important military bases in California to trade or to allow succession.

[Bill Ryan]

Just a Socratic thought experiment.

Maybe Russia should take Greenland, citing 'national security'. Then what would the reaction be from (a) the US, and (b) the EU?

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Just a Socratic thought experiment.

Maybe Russia should take Greenland, citing 'national security'. Then what would the reaction be from (a) the US, and (b) the EU?

Personally, I think the "Russia threat" will be one of the main reason's the EU and NATO will flip flop and support the US "Legal" purchase of Greenland, that'll likely happen this year (2026).

This may sound like a far fetched stretch of my imagination, but, I think Trump, China, and Russia have been in negotiations and making deals behind our backs for sometime now. And behind the backs of all the leaders in the EU and UK because Trump, Putin, and Xi think they are too stupid and insane to be a part of these massive changes. (Which I would argue they'd be correct).

My guess is that Russia will get a southern land bridge in Ukraine connecting Russia to Crimea, China will get Taiwan, and the US will get Greenland.

This may sound ridiculous, but it actually appears to be possibly happening right now before our very eyes.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
My guess is that Russia will get a southern land bridge in Ukraine connecting Russia to Crimea, China will get Taiwan, and the US will get Greenland.

That's an interesting guess! My only footnote to that would be that the valued prize for Russia would be Odessa. (They already have a secure land connection to Crimea.)

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
My guess is that Russia will get a southern land bridge in Ukraine connecting Russia to Crimea, China will get Taiwan, and the US will get Greenland.

That's an interesting guess! My only footnote to that would be that the valued prize for Russia would be Odessa. (They already have a secure land connection to Crimea.)

I think Russia wants the whole southern land bridge of Ukraine and the whole northern area of Ukraine over Crimea (possibly as far as Odessa). Not so sure they'd get Odessa though.

There's a lot of things going on with China and S. Korea too, I've been wondering about some type of involvement between those two as a part of this deal. China may be able to keep there relationship in Brazil fully operational also as part of this deal.

Yes, sounds crazy, but it's kind of what I'm seeing happening from a birds eye view. Perhaps my birds eye view is from the Moon! LOL

I feel a big shift coming soon and this may be what it is. Of course I'm just guessing and using my wild imagination

[bojancan]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
My guess is that Russia will get a southern land bridge in Ukraine connecting Russia to Crimea, China will get Taiwan, and the US will get Greenland.

That's an interesting guess! My only footnote to that would be that the valued prize for Russia would be Odessa. (They already have a secure land connection to Crimea.)

That is very interesting... it just might be... with that we are finding our minds entertaining...

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
My guess is that Russia will get a southern land bridge in Ukraine connecting Russia to Crimea, China will get Taiwan, and the US will get Greenland.

That's an interesting guess! My only footnote to that would be that the valued prize for Russia would be Odessa. (They already have a secure land connection to Crimea.)

I think Russia wants the whole southern land bridge of Ukraine and the whole northern area of Ukraine over Crimea (possibly as far as Odessa). Not so sure they'd get Odessa though.

There's a lot of things going on with China and S. Korea too, I've been wondering about some type of involvement between those two as a part of this deal. China may be able to keep there relationship in Brazil fully operational also as part of this deal.

Yes, sounds crazy, but it's kind of what I'm seeing happening from a birds eye view. Perhaps my birds eye view is from the Moon! LOL

I feel a big shift coming soon and this may be what it is. Of course I'm just guessing and using my wild imagination

Just to add; Russia's current land bridge to Crimea is literally a huge bridge only, which would really cripple them to keep their bases etc supplied if it was taken out. I think they want the Ukrainian land above Crimea for added security and a buffer zone to Crimea.

[Kryztian]

Just found this post from six plus years ago which I totally forgot about. This is still a weird idea, but still seems as good an explanation as any for what is going on in U.S. politics.

Posted by Kryztian (here)
This Facebook conversation appeared yesterday on the page of Cheryl Costa. Cheryl is a Ufologist and has appeared at a lot of conventions, as of late, I know her specialty has been in compiling a statistical compendium about UFO sightings. She has a sense of humor, but she can also be serious. If this conversation had erupted at any other time, I would have dismissed this as a fun exercise done with humor. But now I don't know.

Here are the relevant bits and pieces of a rather long Facebook conversation: