The Murder of United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson

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Experts are concerned that the handling of Luigi Mangione’s case could lead to a real risk of jury nullification. This concern stems from the unusual treatment of the case, including the perp walk and the terrorism charge, which some argue are atypical and may sway public opinion.

Former federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani told Salon that the case’s handling, including the perp walk where Mangione was surrounded by heavily armed law enforcement and Mayor Eric Adams, could backfire. Rahmani noted that the widespread public support for Mangione and the special treatment his case is receiving might make it harder for prosecutors to secure a conviction. He said, “I see a very real risk of jury nullification in the case. I haven’t seen something like this since OJ, where there is so much sympathy for the accused.”

Source: https://www.salon.com/2025/01/01/rea...ould-backfire/

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https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1880327966309380566

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https://x.com/travisbhill5/status/1879980179449352214

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Re the question:

He may not be a bad guy. If he did not do it. If he did, he’s a bad guy. In my opinion.

Where things go south is:

If he did not do it but is found guilty. Then he is not a bad guy, but the system says he is. In that case he pays a price he does not owe or deserve.

Conversely, if he did do it, but the system says he did not, then he is a bad guy, but the system says he is not. In that case he does not pay the price he owes and deserves.

I do believe that one who murders another is a “bad guy” or “bad gal”.

The test is not to punish the innocent and let the guilty go free. Too often the system flips this to protect the guilty at the expense of the innocent.

To be clear, I’m not saying this man who stands accused is innocent or guilty. None of us know. He knows.

How he will he be treated by the system remains to be seen.

Just saying.

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UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting suspect thanks people for mail on new website

Luigi Mangione, who is charged with first-degree murder in the ambush killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, made the comments on a website set up by his defense.

The suspect in the ambush killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson thanked people who have written to him as he is jailed in a New York City detention facility.

Luigi Mangione's statement, posted on a website set up by his defense to provide information about his cases, appear to be his first public comments since he shouted to reporters before a court appearance in Pennsylvania in December.

Mangione is charged in New York with first-degree murder in furtherance of terrorism and other counts in Thompson's Dec. 4 killing. The CEO was shot from behind as he was walking on a Manhattan sidewalk.

Mangione said in the statement that people have written to him at the Metropolitan Detention Center, where he is jailed pending trial.



“I am overwhelmed by — and grateful for — everyone who has written me to share their stories and express their support,” Mangione said in a statement posted to that website.

Thompson's killing has been condemned by officials. Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg said that “this type of premeditated, targeted gun violence cannot and will not be tolerated.”

Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro, in whose state Mangione was arrested on Dec. 9, criticized people who suggested Mangione was a hero or justified in the killing.

“In some dark corners, this killer is being hailed as a hero. Hear me on this: He is no hero,” Shapiro said after Mangione was arrested at a McDonald’s in Altoona.

Mangione is charged with murder and other counts in New York in connection with Thompson’s killing, and he is also charged in Pennsylvania with weapons and other counts.

Mangione allegedly used a “ghost gun” with a suppressor on it. The words “deny” “depose” and “delay” were found on two spent shell casings and a bullet found at the scene, the district attorney’s office said in announcing a murder indictment against him.

Full Story and Watch Video: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ite-rcna192326

Luigi Mangione Website

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Jeff Welles - United Health

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=b-8OTQaHiRI

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Luigi Mangione wrote a list of 27 things he is grateful for before his trial.

[Mike]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
Luigi Mangione wrote a list of 27 things he is grateful for before his trial.

Interesting list. Of course I'm wondering what the redacted bit was.

He's a demented narcissist. I really don't think he possesses the ability to understand the gravity of what he's done. He thinks he's a hero. He thinks he's on the right side of history. Prediction: when he's sentenced to life in prison he's going to have a colossal meltdown. All that reality denialism will hit him in one fell, brutal swoop.

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Posted by Mike (here)

Interesting list. Of course I'm wondering what the redacted bit was.

He's a demented narcissist. I really don't think he possesses the ability to understand the gravity of what he's done. He thinks he's a hero. He thinks he's on the right side of history. Prediction: when he's sentenced to life in prison he's going to have a colossal meltdown. All that reality denialism will hit him in one fell, brutal swoop.

Yes, I completely agree. Point 4 in his letter, he says he is living Groundhog Day, where every day is both Christmas and his birthday. The most disappointing and shocking part of this story is that so many people believe that murder is an acceptable form of punishment for corporate behavior they dilike/hate.
He is a lost soul who will be overwhelmed when he is found guilty of murder.

[Mike]

Posted by rgray222 (here)

Posted by Mike (here)

Interesting list. Of course I'm wondering what the redacted bit was.

He's a demented narcissist. I really don't think he possesses the ability to understand the gravity of what he's done. He thinks he's a hero. He thinks he's on the right side of history. Prediction: when he's sentenced to life in prison he's going to have a colossal meltdown. All that reality denialism will hit him in one fell, brutal swoop.

Yes, I completely agree. Point 4 in his letter, he says he is living Groundhog Day, where every day is both Christmas and his birthday. The most disappointing and shocking part of this story is that so many people believe that murder is an acceptable form of punishment for corporate behavior they dilike/hate.
He is a lost soul who will be overwhelmed when he is found guilty of murder.

Richard you should have read some of the pieces on Substack about this guy. You wouldn't believe it (actually you probably would, sadly). One hipster girl - a popular writer there - wrote something like, "he's one of us..he just snapped.."

He just snapped?

She wrote glowingly of the guy, about what a swell fellow he is, and ended with "..he even read our 'stacks!" ...as if this absolved him from murdering an innocent guy in cold blood on the street. I wrote about all this on Substack, and concluded that (cliche alert!) the murder probably revealed more about the country than Mangione actually.

Another writer there wrote recently about the particular insurance company Brian Thompson worked for (it eludes me now), and pointed out that this particular company did indeed rip people off disproportionately relative to other insurance companies.. and fair enough, but the thrust of his piece was that this somehow vindicated Mangione in the final analysis. And the comments almost unanimously agreed!

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Luigi Mangione claims he was beaten by seven 'ladyboys' in Thailand months before CEO killing

Accused assassin shared WhatsApp messages about Bangkok brawl during Asia travels before Thompson shooting, report says

Luigi Mangione, the former Ivy Leaguer accused of assassinating UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, lost a fight with a gang of seven "ladyboys" in Thailand months before the crime, according to a new report.


Left: An image showing Bangkok's bustling nightlife. Right: Luigi Mangione, accused of the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, attends a court hearing in New York City on Sept. 16, 2025. (iStock, Curtis Means/Pool/AFP via Getty Images)

The 27-year-old Mangione is being held without bail in New York City while awaiting trials at the state and federal level in connection with Thompson's pre-dawn ambush shooting on Dec. 4, 2024, outside a hotel where he was supposed to attend a shareholder conference later that morning.

In the year before the assassination, Mangione traveled to Asia, climbing a mountain in Japan and drinking with expat Americans in Thailand, according to The New York Times.

It was in the latter country where he was reportedly shocked to learn how little an MRI could cost outside the United States — and where he told a friend over WhatsApp he was beaten up by a group of seven "ladyboys," or transgender women, in Bangkok in March.

It's not clear how serious about the brawl he was in the messages. He attached a photo showing scratches on his arm, according to the report. After that, he returned to Japan and took a spiritual mountain climb up a trail where women hikers are not allowed.

From there, he went to India, where he met with a writer who shared an interest in the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, according to the Times report.

By December, according to prosecutors, Mangione had allegedly written about his disdain for the American health insurance industry and wanting to "whack" a CEO. He is also accused of wanting "to incite national debates" about its shortcomings.

Police found spent and unspent bullet casings while investigating the assassination, emblazoned with the words "deny," "delay" and "depose." They appear to be a reference to the title of a book that is critical of the U.S. health insurance industry called "Delay, Deny, Defend."

Read the full story: https://www.foxnews.com/us/luigi-man...killing-report