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    So, if the our-Sun’s big sneeze micro nova lasts only part of our day, only some longitudes would get blasted. That may be why ATL and LEM got through so long. Blind luck.
    The likely scenario is more complex, in several ways.

    Tom Luongo (whose specialties are in other areas, such as financial) interviewed Ben Davidson last week, and ended up getting an excellent overview of the various ways this 12,000 year cyclic reversal of our solar system's magnetic field will effect us. This is far more complex and challenging than a few hour physical blast to one side of the earth from the sun ... far more.Some of Ben's best explanations of this unfolding event are later in this interview.
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    Default Re: How to flash freeze a woolly mammoth, and other galactic superwaves

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    So, if the our-Sun’s big sneeze micro nova lasts only part of our day, only some longitudes would get blasted. That may be why ATL and LEM got through so long. Blind luck.
    The likely scenario is more complex, in several ways.

    Tom Luongo (whose specialties are in other areas, such as financial) interviewed Ben Davidson last week, and ended up getting an excellent overview of the various ways this 12,000 year cyclic reversal of our solar system's magnetic field will effect us. This is far more complex and challenging than a few hour physical blast to one side of the earth from the sun ... far more.Some of Ben's best explanations of this unfolding event are later in this interview.
    Thank you Paul, for this audio podcast interview of Ben. Am familiar with his arguments about impending geomagnetic-related hazards, and about his idea of ~90 degree slippage/flopping of the Crust and subsequent reversal of said flip/slip.

    On the former, I am aware of the whole-Earth (dark side too) effect of big CMEs. He didn’t talk here about (what he’s said in his own productions) actual mass striking us that was thrown off in the micronova event. Disclaimer: I do not clearly remember any time scale for this mass-aspect of the ‘event’, but my impression remains that Sun-facing-or-not matters.

    My take on the latter, the flipping, is “hogwash”. I see too many problems with that, and absolutely no reason for it.

    The last half hour was much more interesting, starting with the host telling his story, then Ben going off-topic.

    I have been wary of Ben, suspicious even, lol, for a while now. Here again, in that last half hour, he pegged my BS-meter with his (familiar) talk of clearing up character flaws. Guy has so much attitude in his live streams, even when the title includes “salt-free”, he is a prime candidate for the kind of spoofing the Hitler-rage scene of that (dunno title) movie gets.

    I took more positive than negative from this. Cheers.
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    My take on the latter, the flipping, is “hogwash”. I see too many problems with that, and absolutely no reason for it.
    I agreed with that "hogwash" view, for most of my life.

    There are many variations on the flipping narrative, and even now I agree that most are hogwash.

    If one sticks to the "modern" physics/astronomy view that the predominate force in play at large distances is Einstein's gravity, then every f'n flippin narrative I've heard is hogwash.

    But if one flips to a predominately aether and electromagnetic based physics, at all scales, and if one considers all the evidence of shifts back and forth about 90 degrees, every 12,000 years, of the earth's crust (not of its core), then all of a sudden (over a decade or two for me) it gets very real.

    If one is living, thinking, intuiting, ... primarily at or below the essentially physical level, then yes, that's negative (none of us are suicidal, or if we are, that's negative in and of itself) and good grounds for rejecting that possibility, at least until reality smacks one upside the head harder than one can ignore.

    If one is also having fun at some higher level (what some of those I know might call 5th or 6th dimension, which annoys the heck out of the geometrician in me or what some others I have known, including my mother, sister, and son call a Christian spiritual level, which hasn't made sense to me since I unceremoniously and without notice even to myself "left the Church" some moment when I was ten years old) ... then from that higher level it's all quite intriguing and one of my main motivations in life is keeping this now old carcass of mine alive and well as long as I can into the climax of this 12,000 year cycle, that I might continue observing and figuring out how it (our universe) all works and that I might continue providing a wee bit of support and insight to those around me who are having trouble understanding and adapting to the dramatic changes coming our way, with increasing intensity and variety.

    None of us are getting out of here alive, and none of us who live long enough into the (now quite few) coming years are getting out of here without being shocked and altered to our core, whatever that core might be, unless we die first, at least in our present form.

    For someone whose life has been, and continues to be, focused on "figuring sh*t out", it's an awesome time to be alive ... a whole lot of stuff to figure out ... like a glutton who accidentally pushed the button on his time capsule that landed him smack back into the "Guest of Honor" chair at some ancient king's biggest annual banquet, when the harvest that year overflowed all the baskets and barns.
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    Default Re: How to flash freeze a woolly mammoth, and other galactic superwaves

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    if one considers all the evidence of shifts back and forth about 90 degrees, every 12,000 years, of the earth's crust (not of its core)
    Let me clarify - I expect the earth's crust to physically shift about 90 degrees, while the earth's magnetic field, such as detected using a compass, flips about 180 degrees.

    This view presumes that the earth's crust can, and does about every 12,000 years, become separated from the earth's core, sending (as a result of gravitational forces) the heaviest points on the crust (which will be the poles where ice has built up over the previous 12,000 years) to the rotational equator of the earth's dominant mass, its core (all but its thin crust, and perhaps inner solid core).

    This view also presumes that the earth's core is predominantly molten ferromagnetic, hence reflects the magnetic field imposed on it, in our case from the solar system, and in turn from our galaxy. If there is a solid inner core to the earth that, since it's solid and contains iron and likely solidified while in a magnetic field, is a permanent magnet, then that core might well flip 180 degrees, to align with the new, inverted field of the solar system, in the region of the galaxy we are re-entering. I doubt I'll notice any such inner core flipping; life on the surface will have far more dramatic distractions at that time.
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    So, if the our-Sun’s big sneeze micro nova lasts only part of our day, only some longitudes would get blasted. That may be why ATL and LEM got through so long. Blind luck.
    The likely scenario is more complex, in several ways.

    Tom Luongo (whose specialties are in other areas, such as financial) interviewed Ben Davidson last week, and ended up getting an excellent overview of the various ways this 12,000 year cyclic reversal of our solar system's magnetic field will effect us. This is far more complex and challenging than a few hour physical blast to one side of the earth from the sun ... far more.Some of Ben's best explanations of this unfolding event are later in this interview.
    Thank you Paul, for this audio podcast interview of Ben. Am familiar with his arguments about impending geomagnetic-related hazards, and about his idea of ~90 degree slippage/flopping of the Crust and subsequent reversal of said flip/slip.

    On the former, I am aware of the whole-Earth (dark side too) effect of big CMEs. He didn’t talk here about (what he’s said in his own productions) actual mass striking us that was thrown off in the micronova event. Disclaimer: I do not clearly remember any time scale for this mass-aspect of the ‘event’, but my impression remains that Sun-facing-or-not matters.

    My take on the latter, the flipping, is “hogwash”. I see too many problems with that, and absolutely no reason for it.

    The last half hour was much more interesting, starting with the host telling his story, then Ben going off-topic.

    I have been wary of Ben, suspicious even, lol, for a while now. Here again, in that last half hour, he pegged my BS-meter with his (familiar) talk of clearing up character flaws. Guy has so much attitude in his live streams, even when the title includes “salt-free”, he is a prime candidate for the kind of spoofing the Hitler-rage scene of that (dunno title) movie gets.

    I took more positive than negative from this. Cheers.
    Jonny, there is also another mechanism that can cause the flip.
    See here https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1616868
    The full story: https://theethicalskeptic.com/2024/0...n-ecdo-theory/

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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    If there is a solid inner core to the earth that, since it's solid and contains iron and likely solidified while in a magnetic field, is a permanent magnet, then that core might well flip 180 degrees, to align with the new, inverted field of the solar system, in the region of the galaxy we are re-entering.
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    Jonny, there is also another mechanism that can cause the flip.
    See here https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1616868
    The full story: https://theethicalskeptic.com/2024/0...n-ecdo-theory/
    That was a perfectly timed and placed response, meat suit.

    I had in mind that very Dzhanibekov effect to which you refer and link, when I speculated that the earth's inner core, likely a solid, iron containing, permanent magnet, could flip 180 degrees, when the earth, along with our entire solar system, moved into a region of our galaxy with a field inverted to what it is where we are now.
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    Now if you really want to understand magnets, better than taught in middle school or in post-doc physics, Robert Distinti will be posting in three days, for public view (I've already watched it on his Patreon channel):

    EM04 11: Advanced Model of Magnets (world Release)
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    Copying this new post of mine on the Animals are Magical thread.

    How do you flash-freeze a saber-tooth tiger kitten, which had no right to being in Siberia? (And I'd be VERY interested to see if the researchers might examine the contents of its stomach.)

    ~~~
    I wanted to report this here. I can't imagine a more magical animal than a saber-toothed tiger kitten.

    Sadly, it's extinct - but of course the frozen DNA will be entirely intact and it has to be possible that the species could be revived, sometime in the relatively near future if not now. I've only copied part of the article... it's worth reading it all.


    Saber-Toothed Kitten Mummy Found in Arctic



    Scientists have discovered a mummified saber-toothed kitten in the Siberian permafrost. The cold, dry conditions perfectly preserved the three-week-old cub.




    This 31,800-year-old mummy from the Late Pleistocene era is incredibly rare — a world first, even.

    “For the first time in the history of paleontology, the appearance of an extinct mammal that has no analogs in the modern fauna has been studied,” wrote the authors of the new study.

    The saber-toothed kitten’s limbs, torso, head, and fur are all intact. Portions of its pelvic bones, femur, and shin bones were found in the ice around the body. Excited researchers were able to see for the first time what this extinct animal actually looked like.



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    Default Re: How to flash freeze a woolly mammoth, and other galactic superwaves

    Regardless of the arguments as to whether the continents will actually migrate once Earth's magnetism has diminished sufficiently and the poles have reversed, the evidence concerning the likelihood of the planet's electric grid going down is not really debatable, and the damage and chaos that can cause is severe enough in itself and could happen at any time.
    If the Sun were to produce a Carrington Event sized CME now(see article below) directed at Earth, it would be catastrophic, and the closer we get to the poles reversing, the more likely that is to happen, because the more Earth's magnetism diminishes, the more vulnerable the electric grid becomes.
    So an event quite a bit less powerful than the Carrington Event would have much more of an effect now.
    Additionally, the Sun has recently moved into a more active cycle.
    And Ben Davidson is hardly the only credible researcher who has published peer reviewed, verifiable data on the subject of the geomagnetic excursion (such data continually appears in his daily updates), he is just a lot more vocal and more willing to take flak for this kind of information that most people simply do not want to believe.
    But there isn't any debate about the Carrington Event and what kind of havoc even a lesser such event could cause today, not to mention a micronova, the reality of which is also no longer up for credible debate.

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    So, if the our-Sun’s big sneeze micro nova lasts only part of our day, only some longitudes would get blasted. That may be why ATL and LEM got through so long. Blind luck.
    The likely scenario is more complex, in several ways.

    Tom Luongo (whose specialties are in other areas, such as financial) interviewed Ben Davidson last week, and ended up getting an excellent overview of the various ways this 12,000 year cyclic reversal of our solar system's magnetic field will effect us. This is far more complex and challenging than a few hour physical blast to one side of the earth from the sun ... far more.Some of Ben's best explanations of this unfolding event are later in this interview.
    Thank you Paul, for this audio podcast interview of Ben. Am familiar with his arguments about impending geomagnetic-related hazards, and about his idea of ~90 degree slippage/flopping of the Crust and subsequent reversal of said flip/slip.

    On the former, I am aware of the whole-Earth (dark side too) effect of big CMEs. He didn’t talk here about (what he’s said in his own productions) actual mass striking us that was thrown off in the micronova event. Disclaimer: I do not clearly remember any time scale for this mass-aspect of the ‘event’, but my impression remains that Sun-facing-or-not matters.

    My take on the latter, the flipping, is “hogwash”. I see too many problems with that, and absolutely no reason for it.

    The last half hour was much more interesting, starting with the host telling his story, then Ben going off-topic.

    I have been wary of Ben, suspicious even, lol, for a while now. Here again, in that last half hour, he pegged my BS-meter with his (familiar) talk of clearing up character flaws. Guy has so much attitude in his live streams, even when the title includes “salt-free”, he is a prime candidate for the kind of spoofing the Hitler-rage scene of that (dunno title) movie gets.
    I took more positive than negative from this. Cheers.
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    What if the Carrington Event, the largest solar storm ever recorded, happened today?
    By Charles Q. Choi
    March 26, 2024
    https://www.livescience.com/carrington-event

    "If a solar storm as big as the Carrington Event struck today, it could lead to years long power outages
    In 1859, British astronomer Richard Carrington saw a blast of white light on the surface of the sun. This was the Carrington Event, as scientists now call it, and it is the largest recorded solar storm ever recorded. It was linked with extraordinary auroras — the Northern and Southern Lights — that were visible in the sky near both the poles and the equator, everywhere from Canada to Australia.The enormous solar outburst also caused electrical disruptions from Paris to Boston.

    While the Carrington Event may seem like history, there are many concerns about what might happen if an event as powerful as — or even more powerful than— the Carrington Event were to strike Earth today, now that humanity is far more dependent on electricity.

    On Thursday, Sept. 2, 1859, at roughly 11:18 a.m. in the town of Redhill outside London, Carrington was investigating a group of dark specks on the sun known as sunspots, when he detected what he later described as "a singular outbreak of light which lasted about five minutes."

    This was the first solar flare ever seen and reported, according to a 2016 study in the journal Advances in Space Research.

    Magnetic sensors at the Kew Observatory in London detected extraordinary magnetic disturbances on Earth from Aug. 28 to Sept. 7 that year, especially on Aug. 28 and Sept. 2. These coincided with what may arguably have been the most intense auroras in the past 160 years, the 2016 study noted.

    "Luminous waves rolled up in quick succession as far as the zenith, some a brilliancy sufficient to cast a perceptible shadow on the ground," the Times of London reported on Sept. 6, 1859.

    The colorful displays were so bright that people in Missouri could read by the atmospheric light after midnight, according to an 1859 report in the Weekly West newspaper. Gold miners in the Rocky Mountains woke up and made coffee, bacon and eggs at 1 a.m. local time, thinking the sun had risen on a cloudy morning, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
    The Northern and Southern Lights usually appear near the planet's poles. However, during the Carrington Event, people witnessed the auroras all the way in the tropics, including in Cuba, Jamaica and Panama, the 2016 study noted.

    Auroras were also seen in the southern hemisphere. For example, in Moreton Bay in Australia, "most of our readers saw last week, for three nights, commencing after sunset and lighting up the heavens with a gorgeous hue of red, the Southern Aurora," according to a report in the Moreton Bay Courier on Sept. 7, 1859, the 2016 study noted.

    Meanwhile, telegraph lines experienced "one of the most startling as well as singular electrical phenomena," when "a superabundance of electricity in the air" enabled telegraph machines to send messages from New York to Pittsburgh without the aid of batteries, according to the Washington Star in 1859.

    Sparks flew from telegraph machines in Paris, according to a report in the The Illustrated London News dated Sept. 24, 1859, and telegraph operator Frederick Royce in Washington, D.C. reported receiving "a very severe electric shock, which stunned me for an instant," The New York Times reported on Sept. 5, 1859. "An old man who was sitting facing me, and but a few feet distant, said that he saw a spark of fire jump from my forehead."

    All in all, the Carrington Event affected almost half of the telegraphic stations in the United States, according to the 2016 study.

    What caused the Carrington Event?
    Solar flares, the largest explosive events in the solar system, are intense eruptions of plasma and radiation associated with sunspots, according to NASA. The sun unleashes solar flares when magnetic energy that builds up on our star gets suddenly released, Hugh Hudson, a solar physicist at the University of Glasgow in Scotland, wrote in a 2021 study in the journal Annual Review of Astronomy and Astrophysics.

    Solar flares are often accompanied by the release of giant bubbles of solar material, known as coronal mass ejections (CMEs). These eruptions may contain billions of tons of plasma — clouds of electrically charged particles — that can race out at millions of miles per hour, NASA noted.

    Hudson's 2021 study estimated that the radiation from the Carrington flare likely carried about 4 X 10^32 ergs of energy, which is about as much as 10 billion 1-megaton nuclear bombs. He also estimated that the event's CME likely carried about 3 X 10^32 ergs of kinetic energy.

    The Carrington Event triggered a geomagnetic storm on Earth, Hudson noted in his study.

    The explosion likely spat out a coronal mass ejection that blasted our planet with high-speed gusts of super-heated plasma clouds, which had intense magnetic fields embedded within them. When such outbursts slam into Earth's magnetosphere — a shell around the planet that holds plasma trapped by Earth's magnetic field — this plasma can flow down the planet's magnetic field lines and smash into molecules in Earth's atmosphere, resulting in auroras.

    Red and Green colors predominate in this view of the Aurora Australis photographed from the Space Shuttle Discovery (STS-39) in May 1991 at the peak of the last geomagnetic maximum. At times of peaks in solar activity, there are more geomagnetic storms and this increases the auroral activity viewed on Earth and by astronauts from orbit. (Image credit: NASA)
    Solar flares can also trigger intense electrical currents in the magnetosphere, according to NOAA. These currents may in turn generate magnetic disturbances in the ground on Earth, which can produce electrical currents in long stretches of electrically conductive material, such as power lines, telecommunication cables and pipelines.

    Geomagnetic storms have the potential to wreak havoc on Earth. In 1989, a geomagnetic storm blacked out the entire Canadian province of Quebec in 90 seconds, leaving 6 million customers in the dark for nine hours, according to NASA. It also damaged transformers as far away as New Jersey—including one at a nuclear power plant—and nearly took down U.S. power grids from the Eastern Seaboard to the Pacific Northwest.

    Geomagnetic storms can also disrupt radio communications and GPS navigation by warping the atmosphere in ways that modify the paths of radio signals, NOAA noted. For instance, the Halloween Storm of 2003 prevented the Federal Aviation Administration from providing GPS navigational guidance for roughly 30 hours, according to a 2011 study for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

    Solar plasma can also heat the planet's upper atmospheric layers, making them swell and potentially drag down satellites in low Earth orbit, NOAA said.

    What would a Carrington Event do today?
    The world has become far more dependent on electricity than it was when the Carrington Event occurred. If a similarly powerful solar flare that was pointed at Earth — as opposed to away from our planet, where it would not have any direct consequences for our world —were to explode now, it might cause unprecedented damage.

    For example, a 2013 study from British insurance giant Lloyd's of London estimated that electrical outages from a Carrington-level event might lead to up to $2.6 trillion in lost revenue for the North American power industry alone. The study also found global blackouts up to years long might occur because such an event could simultaneously damage multiple extra-high-voltage transformers that are difficult to replace. This could in turn result in major disruptions to financial markets, banking, telecommunications, business transactions, emergency and hospital services, the pumping of water and fuel and food transport.

    Similarly, a 2017 study in the journal Space Weather found that in the most extreme blackout scenario, impacting 66% of the U.S. population, the daily domestic economic loss could total $41.5 billion plus an additional $7 billion loss via international supply chain disruptions. In contrast, if it only affected extreme northern states, which are home to 8% of the U.S. population, the economic loss per day could reach $6.2 billion supplemented by an international supply chain loss of $0.8 billion. (The study calculated using 2011 U.S. dollars.)

    However, although the Carrington Event was powerful, "we have seen comparable events since then," Hudson told Live Science in an email. For example, two of the so-called Halloween solar flares of 2003 may have each emitted comparable amounts of radiated energy as the Carrington Event.
    As such, Hudson suggested that a solar flare on the level of the Carrington Event might not pose as big a threat to humankind as some fear. Still, a Carrington Event pointed at Earth today "would have substantial impacts, mainly on human activities in space." Hudson said "We do not have much practice for such an event, because the space assets haven't been exposed to an event of this magnitude yet.” Indeed, Apollo astronauts have made their lunar excursions in the midst of solar activity — “it was on a lesser scale, but still very dangerous to unprotected humans in space," Hudson noted.

    In addition, there is evidence that the sun may be capable of "superflares" that can unleash 10 times or more energy than the Carrington Event. For example, in a 2021 study in the Astrophysical Journal, scientists using NASA's now-retired Kepler space telescope found that over the course of four years, 15 sun-like stars released 26 superflares packing a wallop up to 100 times greater than the Carrington Event. A 2020 study in the Astrophysical Journal found similar results during the first year of NASA's ongoing TESS mission.

    Moreover, scientists analyzing tree rings detected evidence of radioactive carbon-14 atoms — which each possess two more neutrons in their nuclei than regular carbon atoms — from solar explosions. Spikes of carbon-14 seen in the years 660 B.C., A.D. 774 and A.D. 994 may have come from superflares that were significantly stronger than the Carrington Event, Hudson said.

    "The notable thing is that even the Carrington event, or comparably large normal events, are not detectable by the carbon-14 technique," Hudson said in the email. "So these ancient records are ominous."

    When will the next Carrington Event occur?
    A study published Feb. 29, 2024, in the journal Space Weather looked at digitized copies of magnetic field recordings from 1859 to estimate the strength of the Carrington Event. Based on the readings, the researchers concluded that Carrington-level events likely occur once every 100 to 1000 years. However, without knowing exactly how powerful the event was, scientists can only make educated guesses about how common solar outbursts of its kind may be.

    The 2021 Astrophysical Journal study analyzing Kepler data suggested that superflares about 10 times more energetic than the Carrington Event may happen about every 3,000 years, and ones about 100 times more energetic may occur about every 6,000 years. Still, the rates at which our sun in particular may release Carrington-like or more powerful flares "are not well understood," Hudson said.

    When it comes to solar explosions that can release major spikes of carbon-14 atoms seen in tree rings, scientists now know of at least a half-dozen "scattered through the Holocene, a 10,000-year time scale," he noted. However, "we do not understand how these are related to normal solar eruptive events such as Carrington's, and until we do, all bets are off, I'm afraid."

    Editor's note: This article was updated on March 26, 2024, to include new information about the Carrington Event's strength and the likeliness of similar events occurring again."
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