Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

This is not in the least surprising... As previously told, rogue -- potentially seditious -- elements within the FBI have been holding back. Thousands of files have been kept under wraps. We can only hope they make it safely into the hands of Bondi and Patel so they can do the job of releasing them as mandated by President Trump.

For guilty parties in this, they're going to get it. I fully expect the hammer to fall.

The story, as told by Liz Wheeler:

https://x.com/Liz_Wheeler/status/1895223016365400449
Liz Wheeler
@Liz_Wheeler
This is the story:

President Trump & AG Pam Bondi committed to releasing the Epstein files.

The FBI was told to deliver the files to Bondi.

They did, about 200 pages.

Bondi smelled a rat, because there was nothing juicy in the 200 pages, just flight logs & a Rolodex of phone numbers. No “smoking gun.”

Still, Bondi promised to release the documents, so she prepared a binder of them.

THEN, last night a whistleblower contacted Bondi & revealed that the SDNY was hiding potentially thousands of Epstein files, defying Bondi’s order to give them all to her.

We’re talking recordings, evidence, etc. The juicy stuff. Names.

These swamp creatures at SDNY deceived Bondi, Kash, and YOU.

Be outraged that the binder is boring. You should be. Because the evil deep state LIED TO YOUR FACE.

The binder is powerful because it’s tangible physical evidence of the disgusting stunt the SDNY tried to pull.

Bondi is now demanding ALL the Epstein evidence from SDNY plus an investigation into the persons who committed this act of defiance.

The legacy media has betrayed you again and again and again. They lie to you. They smear you. They gaslight you. They deserve no special access to realtime exposure of corruption… because they played a role in covering it up in the first place!

You are the media, Elon said. Yes, we are. So celebrate the regular people are being given access to the most powerful people in our country to report on despicable corruption as it’s being uncovered in realtime.

And be very, very angry that deep state agents in the swamp at the SDNY are at this very moment defying President Trump & AG Bondi & you who voted him into office, lying, and hiding the truth about Jeffrey Epstein because they don’t want their own corruption & weaponization of govt exposed.

That’s the story.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner), quoting Liz Wheeler (here)
Bondi is now demanding ALL the Epstein evidence from SDNY plus an investigation into the persons who committed this act of defiance.

An update posted 45 minutes ago on Zero Hedge:

After Lame 'Epstein Files' Release, AG Pam Bondi Demands 'Withheld' FBI Files by 8am Friday

[bojancan]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
But keep doing what you're doing as it's quite obvious the forum managers don't mind you cluttering up threads with nonsense posts and often derailing threads.

Mod note from Bill:

Actually, 'the forum managers' are rather quickly losing their collective patience.

The moderators do have an operating principle which we deploy occasionally. We support 'free speech' as an ideal to strive for, and we fully encourage intelligent and informed discussion of differing opinions. (Note: posting a video with no added comments of one's own is NOT discussion.)

Having said that, our membership application process is specifically designed as a protective firewall to maintain and enrich the quality of the community. Avalon membership is not freely open to everyone. We decline a third to a half of all forum applicants. Membership is actually by invitation only. It's not a public service.

So the principle is this. If we'd known at the time of our approving a member's application what we later come to understand about that member once they'd revealed their personal beliefs and intentions through their posts, then we reserve the right to reverse our decision in the light of our clearly having made a mistake.

Hello Bill!
I mostly was adding my thoughts with the videos I added here... some time also my opinion too.. now I see, that some of us, who are not in sync with those hard right wingers and Pro Trump's people here... we can not express our point of view against cult lieder... I see strongly now, where this is all going...
Once again, usually, in every add I posted here in PA... I was giving my personal opinion about topics I added.. go there and check...
I do not understand... how could it happened here... that free speech is not valued here anymore... regarding of politics topic... it's only welcome partisan/ pro Trump talk...
I see now... to somebodies.. I really am very unwelcome here...

[JackMcThorn]

Posted by bojancan (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
But keep doing what you're doing as it's quite obvious the forum managers don't mind you cluttering up threads with nonsense posts and often derailing threads.

Mod note from Bill:

Actually, 'the forum managers' are rather quickly losing their collective patience.

The moderators do have an operating principle which we deploy occasionally. We support 'free speech' as an ideal to strive for, and we fully encourage intelligent and informed discussion of differing opinions. (Note: posting a video with no added comments of one's own is NOT discussion.)

Having said that, our membership application process is specifically designed as a protective firewall to maintain and enrich the quality of the community. Avalon membership is not freely open to everyone. We decline a third to a half of all forum applicants. Membership is actually by invitation only. It's not a public service.

So the principle is this. If we'd known at the time of our approving a member's application what we later come to understand about that member once they'd revealed their personal beliefs and intentions through their posts, then we reserve the right to reverse our decision in the light of our clearly having made a mistake.

Hello Bill!
I mostly was adding my thoughts with the videos I added here... some time also my opinion too.. now I see, that some of us, who are not in sync with those hard right wingers and Pro Trump's people here... we can not express our point of view against cult lieder... I see strongly now, where this is all going...
Once again, usually, in every add I posted here in PA... I was giving my personal opinion about topics I added.. go there and check...
I do not understand... how could it happened here... that free speech is not valued here anymore... regarding of politics topic... it's only welcome partisan/ pro Trump talk...
I see now... to somebodies.. I really am very unwelcome here...

You are not unwelcome. The forum has a particular energy when the contributors are engaging vs. posting. I think there is a difference.

For example, I became very frustrated with the unending unfiltered amount of twitter X posts that plague the forum. I do not really do social media and I find that X has one good thing going for it, it is the shot heard 'round the world in mere seconds. But often times it is a burden due to volume and signal to noise and this is why I do not have an account there, but it had me distraught that there was so many of these X posts - isolated and void of other content. To the point, I had to figure out, how to solve this problem without the moderators, when I realised that there is an ignore feature. Now typically I would not be so compelled to ignore a person as their content may be of value even if in disagreement. However, there is entire threads logging only twitter X posts [with no discourse or other information]; repeatedly and endlessly and I cannot discern if the intent is to log these posts for historical reasons, or why someone would spend so much time harvesting this information and reposting on PA? If you cycle through the new posts list like I do, every one of these messages gets viewed whether you intend to or not.

So I flipped the switch and ignored one single solitary person and 95% of the twitter posts disappeared. The ones remaining, the 5% are sufficient and note worthy [which is the point and sometimes it is noted that whom posts the least sometimes posts the best quality].

I really felt bad ignoring the person. But I felt worse streaming through the threads. I check every new post and this action saved me a bunch of time.

So the moderators have limits but we also have a tool to self-moderate, if used wisely and at some point, once there is no other option left - or the mods are too busy, or the person is nice but its just too much, then you have an option to improve the quality of your experience without getting inundated by details you wish to overlook.

cheers

[bojancan]

Posted by JackMcThorn (here)

Posted by bojancan (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
But keep doing what you're doing as it's quite obvious the forum managers don't mind you cluttering up threads with nonsense posts and often derailing threads.

Mod note from Bill:

Actually, 'the forum managers' are rather quickly losing their collective patience.

The moderators do have an operating principle which we deploy occasionally. We support 'free speech' as an ideal to strive for, and we fully encourage intelligent and informed discussion of differing opinions. (Note: posting a video with no added comments of one's own is NOT discussion.)

Having said that, our membership application process is specifically designed as a protective firewall to maintain and enrich the quality of the community. Avalon membership is not freely open to everyone. We decline a third to a half of all forum applicants. Membership is actually by invitation only. It's not a public service.

So the principle is this. If we'd known at the time of our approving a member's application what we later come to understand about that member once they'd revealed their personal beliefs and intentions through their posts, then we reserve the right to reverse our decision in the light of our clearly having made a mistake.

Hello Bill!
I mostly was adding my thoughts with the videos I added here... some time also my opinion too.. now I see, that some of us, who are not in sync with those hard right wingers and Pro Trump's people here... we can not express our point of view against cult lieder... I see strongly now, where this is all going...
Once again, usually, in every add I posted here in PA... I was giving my personal opinion about topics I added.. go there and check...
I do not understand... how could it happened here... that free speech is not valued here anymore... regarding of politics topic... it's only welcome partisan/ pro Trump talk...
I see now... to somebodies.. I really am very unwelcome here...

You are not unwelcome. The forum has a particular energy when the contributors are engaging vs. posting. I think there is a difference.

For example, I became very frustrated with the unending unfiltered amount of twitter X posts that plague the forum. I do not really do social media and I find that X has one good thing going for it, it is the shot heard 'round the world in mere seconds. But often times it is a burden due to volume and signal to noise and this is why I do not have an account there, but it had me distraught that there was so many of these X posts - isolated and void of other content. To the point, I had to figure out, how to solve this problem without the moderators, when I realised that there is an ignore feature. Now typically I would not be so compelled to ignore a person as their content may be of value even if in disagreement. However, there is entire threads logging only twitter X posts [with no discourse or other information]; repeatedly and endlessly and I cannot discern if the intent is to log these posts for historical reasons, or why someone would spend so much time harvesting this information and reposting on PA? If you cycle through the new posts list like I do, every one of these messages gets viewed whether you intend to or not.

So I flipped the switch and ignored one single solitary person and 95% of the twitter posts disappeared. The ones remaining, the 5% are sufficient and note worthy [which is the point and sometimes it is noted that whom posts the least sometimes posts the best quality].

I really felt bad ignoring the person. But I felt worse streaming through the threads. I check every new post and this action saved me a bunch of time.

So the moderators have limits but we also have a tool to self-moderate, if used wisely and at some point, once there is no other option left - or the mods are too busy, or the person is nice but its just too much, then you have an option to improve the quality of your experience without getting inundated by details you wish to overlook.

cheers

With respect... thank you Jack

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by bojancan (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by bojancan (here)

Posted by mountain_jim (here)

Funny... I remember her telling us, that she is already having the Epstein list on her desk... days ago!!!!

She found out later a lot more was not provided that she did not know about at that point. Reading comprehension much?

Frankly I just consider your posts 90% trolling at that point, this being a prime example.

Again... I am trolling because I DO NOT BELIVE in those people around Trump and Trump himself... Period... and because I am Troll JIM ?
And now, she is waiting... for what???? they for sure were redacting so much... etc!!!

I think that I was watching three days ago video on Fox about Pam having files on her desk!!! Period!!!

‘We need to see this list’: Jeffrey Epstein client list on Pam Bondi’s desk for review

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oi1En9vcGDU

You are trolling and have been for months now with 100's of posts that really only reflect your bias towards Trump and your tunnel vision personality.

Do you realize that as much as you post you very rarely or almost never bring anything fresh and interesting in to the conversation.

I would argue that most members here view your posts as mostly trolling.

But keep doing what you're doing as it's quite obvious the forum managers don't mind you cluttering up threads with nonsense posts and often derailing threads.

In my opinion... if I may express it.... those of Trump lovers... they are also Cluttering in many threads regarding on Trump's topics... only one way of thinking... do you think, that only Trump's lovers are in PA, here in forum????
I remember now only tiny number of pro Trump here, who are adding every day by day... others are as lurkers as the others who are not T lovers... and in my opinion, to us... to me, that I am not having trust into cult king of yours... for me is also deranged syndrome from different point of view...

I do not attack anyone here personally... as you are doing it to me/ I am trolling, I am not clever, intelligent etc... I do not making fun of anyone here with opposite opinion as You are doing to me... yes, making fun of me, because I have different opinion about different topics... so, just have respect also to other point of view... because the one way of thinking and seeing things is not right... it's not fair... and also it is not free speech, if someone is always black sheep among white ones... and think, observe, discern differently... you have to be really strong believer in those in Trump world... and in Trump, Jim and Silent Feather!
Thank you for listening me...

It wasn't my intention to attack or make fun of you.

I also never said you are not clever or not intelligent, you are not a victim here, you are a member here.

I actually believe that you are rather clever and quite intelligent.

Have you given it any thought that your posts may give us Trump supporters the impression that you think we are not intelligent or very clever?

Yes I support Trump, but I also criticize him to when I feel he's being foolish or an idiot.

I welcome opposing views as most of us here do, but what you are doing is extreme and excessive in my opinion.

If I ever become to extreme or excessive with my posts in this forum I would hope the mods or other members would make me aware of it.

[SilentFeathers]

This post may have some "hints" in it to what may actually be happening when it comes to this Epstein file release that appears to be a total debacle.

Bondi and Patel may actually be setting the stage to go after the NY FBI field office and rid the rogue rot that exists there.

About every institution in NY has been weaponized and are full of rogue and shady characters. Even the NY Governor is defying the FED.

Bondi may be about to make an example out of some rogue FBI agents.

If this is the case, we may see this FBI field office raided tomorrow. (just speculating of course.)

https://x.com/Liz_Wheeler/status/

Let me make this very clear:

The binders were not given to us at the White House under any pretense that they contained damning Epstein information.

AG Bondi was pissed. Because the deep state swamp creatures LIED to her & gave her the files in the binder, pretending the contents—yes, a nothing burger—were the complete Epstein documents.

Why aren’t you pissed that the SDNY defied President Trump & AG Bondi & attempted to subvert your votes?

Why aren’t you outraged that FBI swamp traitors tried to hide evidence of what we know are heinous crimes & the powerful people implicated in those crimes?

Why aren’t you screaming for the SDNY to give those files to Bondi, for Bondi to release them, and for Kash to absolutely level the SDNY?

[bojancan]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by bojancan (here)

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by bojancan (here)

Posted by mountain_jim (here)

Funny... I remember her telling us, that she is already having the Epstein list on her desk... days ago!!!!

She found out later a lot more was not provided that she did not know about at that point. Reading comprehension much?

Frankly I just consider your posts 90% trolling at that point, this being a prime example.

Again... I am trolling because I DO NOT BELIVE in those people around Trump and Trump himself... Period... and because I am Troll JIM ?
And now, she is waiting... for what???? they for sure were redacting so much... etc!!!

I think that I was watching three days ago video on Fox about Pam having files on her desk!!! Period!!!

‘We need to see this list’: Jeffrey Epstein client list on Pam Bondi’s desk for review

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oi1En9vcGDU

You are trolling and have been for months now with 100's of posts that really only reflect your bias towards Trump and your tunnel vision personality.

Do you realize that as much as you post you very rarely or almost never bring anything fresh and interesting in to the conversation.

I would argue that most members here view your posts as mostly trolling.

But keep doing what you're doing as it's quite obvious the forum managers don't mind you cluttering up threads with nonsense posts and often derailing threads.

In my opinion... if I may express it.... those of Trump lovers... they are also Cluttering in many threads regarding on Trump's topics... only one way of thinking... do you think, that only Trump's lovers are in PA, here in forum????
I remember now only tiny number of pro Trump here, who are adding every day by day... others are as lurkers as the others who are not T lovers... and in my opinion, to us... to me, that I am not having trust into cult king of yours... for me is also deranged syndrome from different point of view...

I do not attack anyone here personally... as you are doing it to me/ I am trolling, I am not clever, intelligent etc... I do not making fun of anyone here with opposite opinion as You are doing to me... yes, making fun of me, because I have different opinion about different topics... so, just have respect also to other point of view... because the one way of thinking and seeing things is not right... it's not fair... and also it is not free speech, if someone is always black sheep among white ones... and think, observe, discern differently... you have to be really strong believer in those in Trump world... and in Trump, Jim and Silent Feather!
Thank you for listening me...

It wasn't my intention to attack or make fun of you.

I also never said you are not clever or not intelligent, you are not a victim here, you are a member here.

I actually believe that you are rather clever and quite intelligent.

Have you given it any thought that your posts may give us Trump supporters the impression that you think we are not intelligent or very clever?

Yes I support Trump, but I also criticize him to when I feel he's being foolish or an idiot.

I welcome opposing views as most of us here do, but what you are doing is extreme and excessive in my opinion.

If I ever become to extreme or excessive with my posts in this forum I would hope the mods or other members would make me aware of it.

It's Ok... I am good.. "young woman"...Thank you Silentfeather

[ExomatrixTV]

• Trump Attorney General Pam Bondi Promises BIG Epstein Reveal!:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SzNE58yV7DA

Attorney General Pam Bondi said Wednesday that the Department of Justice is hoping to release flight logs and the names of people tied to disgraced financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein on Thursday.

“I think tomorrow, Jesse, breaking news right now … you’re going to see some Epstein information being released by my office,” Bondi told Fox News’s Jesse Watters late Wednesday.

During the Biden administration Bondi criticized then Attorney General Merrick Garland for failing to release the Epstein filed and some still question whether she will do so, despite the pledges she’s repeatedly made.

[I am B]

As seemingly one of the few who don't see this through the Trump narrative lense, I still don't understand why wouldn't they release the entirety of documentation directly, that is what disclosure and declasification means. Just havin this "parted dossiers" and being done through specific friendly journalists... truth is truth, and it speaks by itself. Modifying it just means that something is to be hidden or manipulated. If an interpretation has to come from it, do it later, OVER the disclosed documents, with as many influencers as you'd like.

I'm afraid this whole files operation stinks.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JOVrwyygFdM

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Interesting. Just found this in the flight-logs released last night (I hadn't seen his name there before).

Trump is on it.



In his defence - this is dated May '94. In those days, Epstein wasn't quite the man he would become. A wealthy financier perhaps, someone with whom Trump and his ilk might be inclined to hobnob with and share a glass of champagne. Also, Epstein didn't buy his island until 1998, 4 years after this flight.

And if you study the log, the first flight Trump was on was from West Palm Beach to Washington DC, the second from Washington to Teterboro (New Jersey).

No doubt some people will go wild over this, if you ask me, this is a strong example of their commitment to transparency.

[ExomatrixTV]

• The "Declassified" Document Debacle is Part of Bigger Cover-Up Conservative Influencers Won't Touch:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AC1fjYfXpGI

US foreign govt greatest ally doesn't want it all released.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

The release does contains one slice of new -- potentially bombshell -- information, found right at the end.

- Jean-Luc Brunel is mentioned "scouting for young girls"
- David Copperfield (the magician)
- Secret Service Personnel escorting Mr Ehud Barak **Former PM of Israel** on J. Epstein planes

[Merkaba360]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
Interesting. Just found this in the flight-logs released last night (I hadn't seen his name there before).

Trump is on it.

Attachment 54520

In his defence - this is dated May '94. In those days, Epstein wasn't quite the man he would become. A wealthy financier perhaps, someone with whom Trump and his ilk might be inclined to hobnob with and share a glass of champagne. Also, Epstein didn't buy his island until 1998, 4 years after this flight.

And if you study the log, the first flight Trump was on was from West Palm Beach to Washington DC, the second from Washington to Teterboro (New Jersey).

No doubt some people will go wild over this, if you ask me, this is a strong example of their commitment to transparency.

THis Ryan Dawson guy sure seems to be pretty deep into the Epstein case and all its tentacles.

As he says, flgiht logs aren't enough. But i suppose it gives a good list of people to investigate. Sure loads of connected people knew him and flew in his plane and had nothing to do with the horrors. Similar to going to a Diddy party.

What about phone conversations. FBI dont have access to stored phone records? Or would those guys all have special secure phones i suppose.

What other evidence is there besides flight logs and witness testimony? I guess a lot of the tapes have been destroyed by now. And the rest being kept to blackmail people in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ta2g4bmNc8

[grapevine]

After the way Trump fudged the drone issue, I have serious reservations as to whether there will be any meaningful disclosures at all, although I hope I'm wrong. True, he hasn't been in office all that long and true, he's turned some things on their heads (without putting any new measures in place), but there's been no drone/ufo disclosure, no JFK, RFK, MLK disclosure, no Epstein disclosure, no end to the war in Ukraine, although he's trying to asset strip it - heaven knows the civilians have nothing left to give - and has his eye on creating a Riviera in Palestine, but without the existing Palestinians.

Sorry to be so negative, and I'm so glad that Trump has replaced Biden, but still hoping and praying for positive change and a better life for everyone.

[mountain_jim]

Posted by JackMcThorn (here)
But keep doing what you're doing as it's quite obvious the forum managers don't mind you cluttering up threads with nonsense posts and often derailing threads.

< snip >

You are not unwelcome. The forum has a particular energy when the contributors are engaging vs. posting. I think there is a difference.

For example, I became very frustrated with the unending unfiltered amount of twitter X posts that plague the forum. I do not really do social media and I find that X has one good thing going for it, it is the shot heard 'round the world in mere seconds. But often times it is a burden due to volume and signal to noise and this is why I do not have an account there, but it had me distraught that there was so many of these X posts - isolated and void of other content. To the point, I had to figure out, how to solve this problem without the moderators, when I realised that there is an ignore feature. Now typically I would not be so compelled to ignore a person as their content may be of value even if in disagreement. However, there is entire threads logging only twitter X posts [with no discourse or other information]; repeatedly and endlessly and I cannot discern if the intent is to log these posts for historical reasons, or why someone would spend so much time harvesting this information and reposting on PA? If you cycle through the new posts list like I do, every one of these messages gets viewed whether you intend to or not.

So I flipped the switch and ignored one single solitary person and 95% of the twitter posts disappeared. The ones remaining, the 5% are sufficient and note worthy [which is the point and sometimes it is noted that whom posts the least sometimes posts the best quality].

I really felt bad ignoring the person. But I felt worse streaming through the threads. I check every new post and this action saved me a bunch of time.

So the moderators have limits but we also have a tool to self-moderate, if used wisely and at some point, once there is no other option left - or the mods are too busy, or the person is nice but its just too much, then you have an option to improve the quality of your experience without getting inundated by details you wish to overlook.

cheers

Well I assume Jack won't see this unless quoted but I am self-aware enough to realize he is most likely speaking of (and has ignored) me here.

So I will endeavor to reduce my apparently high noise-to-signal ratio here going forward.

During the run-up to the election I had tried to do my part to contribute to 'the great awakening' and the defeat of the Dem/MSM/Left cabal by bringing news and research here that had increased my knowledge and understanding in specific areas of my interest - or helped to counter views or misinfo I felt needed countering.

I assumed that members here understood that by posting I was signaling my agreement with the news/views and thinking I was providing a service (in limited number of threads of my focus areas) by saving folks from having to go to all these X accounts directly.

I can see how if someone goes to view every new forum post rather than to specific subject matter threads of interest to them then this could be considered spam.

Or if someone wants only personally-stated views/summaries rather than a personally curated subset of other writers and researchers news/views that I resonate with - then also - spam.

I hear this critique - I will now attempt to greatly reduce my input here, and express my thanks to those who let me know they appreciated my efforts here over the last year, and found value where others found only a burden or even became distraught.

It's true that my posts from X always included the links to the researchers I value so members can go directly to those sources for their content going forward.

Oh - and thanks Jack for reminding me of the Ignore feature - I do have one poster to use that for (not you) post-haste.

mj


update: already advised by one member that there may have been another member referred to above (and not to stop) - but even my (Avalon member) wife wants me to spend less time on the forum.

[JackMcThorn]

No sir; not you at all.

[mountain_jim]

Posted by JackMcThorn (here)
No sir; not you at all.

Thanks

- but I think your message was a timely one for me to hear as well and to help me reduce my addiction to time spent on the forum, and I can hopefully do a better job of curating into less volume posting.

(and I did use the ignore feature just now for first time)

[mountain_jim]

(well maybe I don't have enough self-control)

https://x.com/catturd2/status/1895450572704387127

Gary D
@KMGGaryde
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18h
Tucker Carlson says the quiet part out loud! 🔥

In this earlier panel Q&A segment Tucker says Barr lied about Epstein's murder, the FBI hid all the videotapes from the public because

this was 'a massive blackmail operation run by various intel agencies, designed to put famous people under control of the government'

[thepainterdoug]

Tucker makes so much sense that it no longer makes sense within the damaged reality we are all accustomed to.

Language , meaning , logic have been assaulted of the last 4 years under the Biden Crime family and for good reason.

The present admin will have to do their best under constant interference threat and continual coverup.