Why can we cure Bird Flu in Birds but not cheaply in Humans?

[Jim_Duyer]

I've mentioned before that my wife raises Chickens. We have a pure breed Japanese Chicken that we are getting ready to take for a judging contest and general Chicken Jamboree locally.

Unfortunately, she developed respiratory problems. But our Chickens are our Pets, along with others, so we needed to fix her up.

We aren't sure if she has a cold, the flu or pneumonia. Our vet said it doesn't matter - there is one drug that fixes all of those and more.


Our Vet recommended Trisufalite - an antibiotic that he swears by.

She's getting better with it - and maybe even cured.

It costs $1.90 per package, good for a ten day treatment. I asked another Vet for confirmation, and she also swears by it.

It aids and cures: Avian Cholera * E. Coli Infections * Pneumonia
* Chronic respiratory conditions * Colds and Flu.

So, we can cure Avian Influenza in a Chicken, but not in a Human, for a cheap price? And chronic respiratory conditions, that many pay a bunch for various "specialized" treatments at big bucks, and Pneumonia, which shots are also not cheap.

Something is wrong with this picture!

This is starting to smell like the horse treatment that many used to treat the Plandemic.

PS We used to call the hen "Helen", but since she's in a contest we changed her name to "Geisha", and it looks like she will be healthy enough to win, or place, or at least show.

[Ioneo]

If there is such a drug why do they keep culling thousands and thousands of chickens from farms all over the world?

[samsdice]

Posted by Ioneo (here)
If there is such a drug why do they keep culling thousands and thousands of chickens from farms all over the world?

It's the war against farmers which includes the attacks on Beef & Dairy and the conversion of viable farmland to re-wilding, SDG commitments etc. Farmers are really getting it in the neck now. All part of the WEF agenda.

[Sue (Ayt)]

I searched and found Tri-Sulfa which looks like that may be it.
I have a feeling that it might be the same as a product already used for humans: (?)

"Sulfamethoxazole and trimethoprim (SMZ-TMP) are two medications that have been used together to treat bacterial infections including urinary tract infections (UTIs). They belong to a class of medications known as sulfonamide antibiotics. This combination is sold under the brand names Bactrim®, Septra® or Sulfatrim®."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/N...r%20Sulfatrim®.

[Blastolabs]

Posted by Jim_Duyer (here)
Something is wrong with this picture!

This is starting to smell like the horse treatment that many used to treat the Plandemic.

The question posed in the title of this thread assumes that bird flu exists.
This is a key aspect of curing any disease but somehow nobody asks the question
"Does bird flu exist"
Well there is no clear science based evidence that bird flu or any other virus causes disease.
This may sound crazy but the science just isn't there.
Read the paper I linked below it covers polio in depth including why we were misled and the politics involved back in the 1950s
No one is able to cite claims such as "HIV causes AIDS" or "Sars-Cov-2" causes Covid19

These viral disease typically mask some sort of environmental toxin (The Poison Cause Of Poliomyelitis And Obstructions To Its Investigation)

Hopefully the current communications black out at the FDA, CDC, and HHS will free humanity from this insane religious belief in viruses along with the even crazier ritual of injecting biological material from sick people into healthy people to make them healthier. (Vaccination)

Chemical poisons, such as arsenic, triorthocresyl phosphate, and organophosphorus insecticides, were responsible for paralysis affecting groups of people.

viroliegy.com deep dives into the foundational studies for almost every virus and shows that there was always more failure than success and never replicable experiments that support pathogenic virus.

[Mari]

Posted by Ioneo (here)
If there is such a drug why do they keep culling thousands and thousands of chickens from farms all over the world?

Because their ultimate aim is to destroy the natural food supply, aka Meat. When 'Mad Cow' disease hit the UK in 2000, the national herd was culled. It didn't have to be, medicine for the cows was available and most would've recovered. The 'alternative' thinking then was that is was 'cheaper' to cull, than to cure There are those who say this 'disease' didn't exist, that some cows got ill solely because of bad animal husbandry, but the politics of fearmongering held sway - as it does today. That, however, was just a 'test'.

I do not believe Bird Flu exists - its 'there' as a Damocles sword, to scare the un-informed of the 'danger' of eating poultry ('Please Register your Birds'!) They will declare a 'National Emergency' of Bird Flu and order the culling of the lot - private keepers will not be exempt. And, unlike Mad Cow 'disease', there will be no regeneration to the national flock.
The Farmers protest is ultimately about this, because they're in the current bullseye for 'termination' via the horrendous Death Duty tax. Most of them know the real Agenda.

[Mari]

Posted by Blastolabs (here)

Posted by Jim_Duyer (here)
Something is wrong with this picture!

This is starting to smell like the horse treatment that many used to treat the Plandemic.

The question posed in the title of this thread assumes that bird flu exists.
This is a key aspect of curing any disease but somehow nobody asks the question
"Does bird flu exist"
Well there is no clear science based evidence that bird flu or any other virus causes disease.
This may sound crazy but the science just isn't there.
Read the paper I linked below it covers polio in depth including why we were misled and the politics involved back in the 1950s
No one is able to cite claims such as "HIV causes AIDS" or "Sars-Cov-2" causes Covid19

These viral disease typically mask some sort of environmental toxin (The Poison Cause Of Poliomyelitis And Obstructions To Its Investigation)

Hopefully the current communications black out at the FDA, CDC, and HHS will free humanity from this insane religious belief in viruses along with the even crazier ritual of injecting biological material from sick people into healthy people to make them healthier. (Vaccination)

Chemical poisons, such as arsenic, triorthocresyl phosphate, and organophosphorus insecticides, were responsible for paralysis affecting groups of people.

viroliegy.com deep dives into the foundational studies for almost every virus and shows that there was always more failure than success and never replicable experiments that support pathogenic virus.

Good post. Correct, It does not exist. As you say, there never has been any real concrete evidence. 'Covid' did not exist, (they couldn't isolate, if that's the term, any virus) - the same with all the other scare 'viral' jobs over the years. It's just fearmongering to get the Herd (us) to follow their agenda.
Its not 'crazy' at all, as you say, the 'Science' is not there. 'Germ theory' is just that - a theory, as most of what passes for 'science' is these days, is. It's used as a tool for Pharma profit and human control.

[Jim_Duyer]

Posted by Ioneo (here)
If there is such a drug why do they keep culling thousands and thousands of chickens from farms all over the world?

Probably because you have to pick up the chicken, give it the medicine, console it, watch over it to see if it is working or when it needs another dosage, and it's cheaper for the machine-produced chickens to simply separate and kill them. The same reason they keep them locked up without touching grass.

[Jim_Duyer]

Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
I searched and found Tri-Sulfa which looks like that may be it.
I have a feeling that it might be the same as a product already used for humans: (?)

"Sulfamethoxazole and trimethoprim (SMZ-TMP) are two medications that have been used together to treat bacterial infections including urinary tract infections (UTIs). They belong to a class of medications known as sulfonamide antibiotics. This combination is sold under the brand names Bactrim®, Septra® or Sulfatrim®."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/N...r%20Sulfatrim®.

Thanks for that info. But they are only using it for a small section of ailments. I have also seen drugs that work on way different problems but are only "licensed" for one purpose.
Must be more money in it that way.

[Jim_Duyer]

Posted by Mari (here)

Posted by Ioneo (here)
If there is such a drug why do they keep culling thousands and thousands of chickens from farms all over the world?

Because their ultimate aim is to destroy the natural food supply, aka Meat. When 'Mad Cow' disease hit the UK in 2000, the national herd was culled. It didn't have to be, medicine for the cows was available and most would've recovered. The 'alternative' thinking then was that is was 'cheaper' to cull, than to cure There are those who say this 'disease' didn't exist, that some cows got ill solely because of bad animal husbandry, but the politics of fearmongering held sway - as it does today. That, however, was just a 'test'.

I do not believe Bird Flu exists - its 'there' as a Damocles sword, to scare the un-informed of the 'danger' of eating poultry ('Please Register your Birds'!) They will declare a 'National Emergency' of Bird Flu and order the culling of the lot - private keepers will not be exempt. And, unlike Mad Cow 'disease', there will be no regeneration to the national flock.
The Farmers protest is ultimately about this, because they're in the current bullseye for 'termination' via the horrendous Death Duty tax. Most of them know the real Agenda.

It's interesting that you mention Mad Cow disease. Our scientists tell us that people cannot get mad cow disease. But in rare cases they may get a human form of mad cow disease called variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD), which is fatal.

Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease is marked by changes in mental abilities. Symptoms get worse quickly, usually within several weeks to a few months. Early symptoms include: Personality changes.
Memory loss. Impaired thinking. Blurry vision or blindness. Insomnia.
Problems with coordination. Trouble speaking. Trouble swallowing. Sudden, jerky movements.


There is no cure for variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD). It belongs to a group of human and animal diseases known as prion disorders.

Weaponization

Prions could theoretically be employed as a weaponized agent. With potential fatality rates of 100%, prions could be an effective bioweapon, sometimes called a "biochemical weapon", because a prion is a biochemical. An unfavorable aspect is prions' very long incubation periods. Persistent heavy exposure of prions to the intestine might shorten the overall onset Another aspect of using prions in warfare is the difficulty of detection and decontamination.

So perhaps, in our near future, we may be doing the vCJD Zombie dance, courtesy of prions. Look for it as the next big plandemic - the one to cure that pesky human overpopulation problem once and for all.

[TrumanCash]

Trump admin to deregulate egg industry to combat high prices, says USDA secretary

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6369344904112

March 10, 2025: The WHO has circulated the false narrative that the H5N1 bird flu virus is ‘highly pathogenic’ and may jump from animals to humans causing another pandemic. These false narratives fuel the primary goal of the H5N1 bird flu fear campaign- to decimate the US food supply, specifically targeting dairy cows and chickens. https://substack.com/home/post/p-158735340

CHD covers the USDA faulty approach to the problem today. Bobby Kennedy explains the problem with vaxxing chickens: https://live.childrenshealthdefense....tm_id=20250310

IMO, bird flu is another scamdemic with the usual nefarious agenda. I love organic, free range eggs and fortunately they are available locally. Vital Farms has organic brown eggs and they are pasture raised outdoors year round, tended by hand on small family farms! https://vitalfarms.com/organic-pasture-raised-eggs/

I'm not sure how widespread their availability is but they have links to find a store near you that sells them.

"All our pasture-raised eggs are laid by hens that are free to roam on healthy pasture, with at least 108 sqft. each, and plenty of fresh air and sunshine. This outdoor access gives the girls a lifestyle they deserve with freedom to forage through rotated pastures, feasting on a natural buffet of grasses. Find a carton at your local store, or try them out at a restaurant that proudly serves Vital Farms eggs. We bet you can taste the difference!"

They also have non-organic, pasture-raised eggs: https://vitalfarms.com/pasture-raised-eggs/

[Bill Ryan]

Here's a report showing that bird flu — in birds — is sadly a very real thing.
(I didn't like to read this at all)

• https://explorersweb.com/avian-flu-i...ctic-peninsula

Avian Flu is Tearing Through the Antarctic Peninsula



Disease tops nobody’s list of Antarctic dangers. “The great advantage of this place is that one never gets ill,” said Robert Falcon Scott. His contemporary, Douglas Mawson, even suggested that the icy continent would be an ideal place for tuberculosis sufferers to recover due to the lack of germs.

A lot can change in a hundred years.

Deadly new strain

It’s been over five years since a new, deadly strain of Avian flu, called HPAI H5N1 clade 2.3.4.4b, began decimating global bird populations. There have been significant outbreaks in the UK, Europe, South Africa, and the Americas. The disease targets not only birds but also pinnipeds like seals, walruses, and sea lions. Last year, it finally landed on the Antarctic Peninsula.

But scientists could do nothing, not even monitor the situation. During the long, black winter, they were unable to study the progress of the disease. As soon as conditions allowed, a research team about the Australis crossed the Drake Passage into Antarctic waters. They were led by Spanish virologist Antonio Alcamí, who had identified the first case a year earlier.

The ship, equipped with a state-of-the-art lab, visited dozens of sites along the peninsula’s coast and in the Weddell Sea. What they found wasn’t encouraging.

Widespread infection

In total, they collected and tested 846 samples, and 188 tested positive for H5N1. The infected animals were from nine bird and four seal species. The animals they tested had a high viral load, making them highly infectious to other animals around them. Carcasses, especially, are a vector, and because of this the skua, a carrion-bird, has been especially hard hit.

The disease has spread geographically, too. The virus was present in 24 out of 27 sites they visited, ranging down the arm of the peninsula and across various Antarctic and subantarctic islands, including South Georgia. The older infections were on the north side of the peninsula, where visitors observed lower populations, especially of the skuas. On the south side, the outbreak is more recent, and visitors can see dead and dying seabirds.

No infections have been confirmed on the Antarctic continent beyond the peninsula, but that doesn’t mean H5N1 isn’t there. Researchers have already observed unusual mortality among bird populations further east along the Princess Astrid Coast.

Along with the skua, crab-eater seals have been particularly affected by recent outbreaks. On Joinville island, where crab-eaters are common, the local population was devastated.

On Joinville Island; the Gentoo penguins, pictured, were relatively unscathed, but crab-eater seals were not so lucky.

What about penguins?

One animal that hasn’t been dying off is penguins. Both Adelie and Gentoo penguins have tested positive for the virus, but many infected individuals appear healthy. The virus is so thick in the air at their colonies that the researchers detected it using an air pump.

There were some suspicious penguin die-offs last year, which researchers think may have given the surviving birds immunity.

This is good news for penguins but presents a substantial risk to human visitors. Avian flu can infect humans who come in contact with infected birds. Of all Antarctic birds, the cute and friendly penguin is most likely to approach, or be approached, by humans.

The Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research (SCAR) established the Antarctic Wildlife Health Network database to monitor the spread. According to SCAR President Yeadong Kim, they are “deeply concerned with the evolving situation” in Antarctica.

With the fall of Antarctica, Australia is now the only uninfected continent.