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    There's rumors Trump is a Knights Templar who were accused of worshiping Baphomet and Elon dressed up as him. Those taken down via DOGE could benefit Putin and add credence to the rumor.

    Following the Pi Path
    Quote The president of Russia Vladimir Putin name anagrams to Virtual Pi Mind.

    Satan in Chaledean is Pi or 3.1415
    Google AI
    Quote Accusations of Heresy:

    In 1307, King Philip IV of France had many French Templars arrested and tortured into confessions, claiming they practiced heresy, including idolatrous worship of a bearded male head called Baphomet.

    Baphomet as a Symbol:

    The accused idol, Baphomet, became a symbol of Satanism and was later embraced by various occult and mystical writers.

    Lack of Concrete Evidence:
    While the accusations were widespread, there's no concrete historical evidence to suggest that the Knights Templar actually worshipped Baphomet or any other deity besides the Christian God.

    Possible Misinterpretations:
    Some historians believe the accusations were based on misinterpretations of Templar rituals or symbols, or were fabricated to justify the seizure of Templar wealth and power by the French monarchy.
    Trump is NOT the answer
    Quote At 4:56 Alfred Lambremont Webre claims there's a double meaning with Trump's Maga slogan. It's the highest degree in Anton LeVey's Church of Satan. I recall Kent Dunn saying he's a Knights Templar and they also use the red & white color pattern. At 27:00 he reads information pointing to Trump being an antichrist. His name may refer to trumpet and Little Horn. The Israelis claim he's their messiah after the rally shooting.
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    Quote Registered Member (no degree)

    Active Member—Satanist (First Degree)

    Witch/Warlock (Second Degree)

    Priestess/Priest (Third Degree)

    Magistra/Magister (Fourth Degree)

    Maga/Magus (Fifth Degree)
    The Horn of Psalm 148
    Quote The raised horn is a common biblical symbol of victory, especially of being rescued from oppression. ), and when God “exalts the horn” of someone, he is bringing victory to the oppressed. )—to “exalt the horn” of his anointed one, the Messiah.

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    Quote Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
    7the5ource = Bojancan?
    Hello Dude there ... I am here... I am not 7source....
    But I have to say something here...

    As you know... in my 80 now, woman older as Donald...
    I know about some of Trump's previous moments of his life after he married Ivana from Czechoslovakia... his involvement with Russia as "Krasnov", he was named as and was in some papers in EU in 1990... I remember this name... this name is means "beautiful".. also I remember involvement with Epstein too... but but but .... here in PA, they do not want to hear so much different opinions of Trump... it's so conspiracy aligned... I was always negatively accepted here in PA... if I mentioned something, that is not going strait with their point of view about Donald!

    Many reporters were reporting stuff about him in a different publications... all over the Europe... in newspapers too from 1980 on.... 1985... T was a epitome with his girls...
    I was living in Slovenia till 2000.. in our family... we were Christians / Catholics...... but many of Slovenians were members of KPJ /Jugoslavia/and later members of Slovenian Communist Party /KPS/...

    I am remembering all about it.. what was happening in late 1994.. when Melania became "catalog model" first in Slovenia and later catalog model in Italy, France... and later, she became Trump's girlfriend.. he was not divorced by Marla yet..
    As Trump also Melania... they were friends with Epstein and Ghislaine...

    Family of Melania Knavs, they were very involved in KPS.. they were a big communists in Melania native town/Sevnica/..
    After all this Sagas with friendships above mentioned names... they became all of sudden.. Christians... when Melania's family migrated in US after 2012 or later I do not know exactly. which year.... there are so many lies all around these people... Knavs, Trumps etc....

    I always mentioned... one day all of this lies and these pretenders... will be exposed... karma is a bitch.. they say so...

    Very interesting, that until these days... we didn't get all infos and files of Epstein Saga from this administration... what do you think... why not????

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    • Grok 3.0 "Deep Search" Mode Activated:
    • Research suggests Donald Trump was not recruited by the KGB under the codename ‘Krasnov’ in 1987, as claimed by a former KGB officer, Alnur Mussayev.
    • The evidence leans toward this claim being unsubstantiated, with inconsistencies in Mussayev’s career timeline and no credible supporting evidence.
    • This topic remains controversial, with only speculation about Trump’s ties to Russia, but official investigations found no proof of such recruitment.
    • Background
    Donald Trump, a prominent U.S. businessman and later president, visited Moscow in 1987 to explore hotel development opportunities. This visit has fueled speculation about his connections to Russia, especially given his later political career and policies.
    • Claim Analysis
    A former KGB officer, Alnur Mussayev, claimed on a February 2025 X post (Alnur Mussayev) that Trump was "recruited" by the KGB in 1987 and given the codename ‘Krasnov’. However, Mussayev’s own career history shows he was working in the Soviet Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD) in 1987, not the KGB, raising doubts about his involvement in such "recruitment".
    • Alledged "Evidence" and Credibility
    • No official documents or reports from the CIA, FBI, or other agencies confirm this claim.
    • The Mueller investigation (2019) into Trump’s 2016 campaign found no evidence of criminal conspiracy with Russia.
    • Other former KGB officers, like Yuri Shvets, have made similar claims, but these lack verifiable evidence and are based on speculation.
    • Unexpected Detail
    While the "recruitment" claim seems unfounded, it’s notable that Trump’s 1987 Moscow visit was arranged with assistance from Soviet officials, potentially including the KGB, as reported by Politico Magazine, which might explain why such rumors persist.
    • Survey Note: Detailed Analysis of Donald Trump and Alleged "KGB Recruitment"
    This section provides a comprehensive examination of the claim that Donald Trump was "recruited" by the Soviet Union's KGB under the codename ‘Krasnov’ in 1987, based on available information and analysis. The claim, made by former KGB officer Alnur Mussayev, has garnered significant media attention but lacks substantiation, as detailed below.
    • Context of the Claim
    • Donald Trump, known for his real estate ventures and later as the 45th U.S. President (2017–2021, and again from January 2025), visited Moscow in July 1987 to explore business opportunities, specifically building a luxury hotel. This visit, documented in his book The Art of the Deal and reported by Newsweek, was facilitated by Soviet diplomatic services, with potential KGB involvement, as suggested by Politico Magazine. This context has fueled speculation about his ties to Russia, especially given his later political stances and interactions with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
    In February 2025, Alnur Mussayev, a former head of Kazakhstan’s National Security Committee and a one-time KGB officer, claimed in a Facebook post, as cited by Kyiv Post, that Trump was allegedly "recruited by the KGB" during this visit and assigned the codename ‘Krasnov’. Mussayev, aged 71 at the time, stated his role was in the 6th Directorate of the KGB, focused on recruiting Western businessmen, and alleged Trump’s file is now held by Putin.
    • Analysis of Mussayev’s Credibility
    Mussayev’s claim faces significant scrutiny due to inconsistencies in his career timeline. According to his Wikipedia entry, from 1986 to 1989, he was seconded to the Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD) of the USSR, specifically in its 8th Main Directorate, not the KGB. The MVD handled internal security and law enforcement, while foreign intelligence was the KGB’s domain, as outlined by Ministry of Internal Affairs (Soviet Union) - Wikipedia. This discrepancy suggests Mussayev could not have been directly involved in KGB recruitment in 1987, casting doubt on his claim.

    Further, Mussayev’s history includes unproven accusations against the Kazakh government after fleeing to Vienna in 2007, as noted by The Economic Times, which may indicate a pattern of making unverified claims. He provided no documented proof, alleging Trump’s file is with Putin, a claim impossible to verify without access to Russian archives.
    • Supporting and Contrasting Claims
    Mussayev is not alone in suggesting Trump had ties to Russian intelligence. Yuri Shvets, another former KGB officer, claimed in Craig Unger’s 2021 book American Kompromat, as reported by The Guardian, that Trump was cultivated as a Russian asset since the 1980s, starting with flattery during his 1987 visit. Sergei Zhyrnov, another ex-KGB officer living in France, endorsed Mussayev’s claim in an interview with a Ukrainian journalist, as noted by The Hill. However, these claims lack concrete evidence and are speculative, relying on personal recollections rather than documented proof.

    Contrastingly, Snopes investigated Mussayev’s claim and found it inconsistent with his documented career, suggesting he was not in a position to make such assertions. The Mueller investigation, concluded in 2019 and reported by Hindustan Times, found no evidence of criminal conspiracy between Trump’s 2016 campaign and Russia.
    • Trump’s Denials and Official Investigations
    Trump has repeatedly denied having improper ties to Russia, as noted by The Economic Times, dismissing such allegations as “fake news” and “ridiculous”. While he hasn’t directly responded to Mussayev’s specific claim, as reported by Euronews, his general denials align with the lack of evidence.

    The FBI opened an inquiry in 2017 into whether Trump was secretly working on behalf of Russia, as reported by The New York Times, but this focused on his presidency and 2016 campaign, not 1987. No CIA reports specifically addressing the "KGB recruitment claim" were found, as per searches on Snopes and other sources.
    • Implications and unproven Speculation
    The claim has reignited debates about Trump’s Russia ties, particularly given his policies like skepticism of NATO and praise for Putin, as noted by The Times of India. Some argue this could be kompromat (compromising material), but others suggest his stance reflects personal worldview or business interests. The absence of proof doesn’t disprove the claim, but Occam’s razor favors simpler explanations over espionage theories.

    The title of this Project Avalon Forum Thread is MISLEADING ... change the title in to that "some have speculations without real evidence" and/or add a QUESTION MARK is far more accurate.

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    [QUOTE=Sue (Ayt);1660323]7he5ource - Would you like the other thread to be totally deleted?

    no i'll work on it a watered down version is on this thread

    HERE IT IS

    Canada a state ...

    remained loyal to the queen/throne/ancestral extended family
    had two military wars with USA and burnt down the white house twice in said wars
    USA did not win ww2 they tricked Canada to go into the beach-heads 1st [Dieppe] Canada suffering more casualties as Americans walked on over their dead bodies
    history and Hollywood omit this vital point Canada won ww2
    when the Shaw of Iran was ousted Canada issued Canadian passports to 48 CIA operatives pretending to
    be American diplomats and embassy staff
    Canada supported numerous USA military adventurism abroad acting as peacekeeping forces
    British royals always preferred Canada to USA for being a society of rule of law, and war heroes that saved Europe [not lawsuits] and less belligerent violent society
    Canada remains loyal to its "gene pool of extended ancestral family in Europe" USA betrayed its ancestral homeland
    Canada does not export drugs to USA its the opposite
    if the the USA/Canadian border were militarized this would cost trillions
    and much of USA's weapons systems are on Canadian soil [NORAD] and should be removed if we aren't allies/friends
    all USA military personal/diplomats expelled and the USA embassy littered with spy devices should be demolished
    Canada is half french colony if the 2 join all Americans must learn french

    psychological war
    verbal war
    gender war
    military war

    war is war USA has declared war on Canada ... and USA NORAD bases in Canada should be removed or sabotaged, nuclear silos buried under tonnes of concrete unless removed
    all NORAD facilities destroyed leaving USA unprotected open nuclear attack

    What if Canadian troops should invade USA and execute orders of optimum kill
    Is it better in hell to die proud patriots than join the trump mafia sissies sect of killionaire nerds

    Canada doesn't need USA ... lets use Trump thinking here
    NUKE EM ALL !

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    why pick on Canada ?

    Russia wants it

    Does Canada have lots of resources?
    Canada is the global leader in potash production and ranks among the top five global producers of diamonds, gemstones, gold, indium, niobium, platinum group metals, titanium concentrate and uranium. Canada is also the world's fourth-largest producer of primary aluminum


    uranium from the CANU REACTOR sod to India gave them the a bomb
    then pakis, then UER, then over 290 nations currently have suckcesssfully tested A bombs
    Canada and France helping Iran didn't make peace on earth it made over 20 nuclear armed nation enough to destroy serveral solar systems
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    I JUST KNEW you would post here
    i don't have time but will read your post later
    just please stay on the titled topic or direct offshoots\
    good2cu

    i tried to reply properly


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    i say too many people
    humanity not to exceed half a million worldwide till full recovery of bioweb
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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    • Grok 3.0 "Deep Search" Mode Activated:
    • Research suggests Donald Trump was not recruited by the KGB under the codename ‘Krasnov’ in 1987, as claimed by a former KGB officer, Alnur Mussayev.
    • The evidence leans toward this claim being unsubstantiated, with inconsistencies in Mussayev’s career timeline and no credible supporting evidence.
    • This topic remains controversial, with speculation about Trump’s ties to Russia, but official investigations found no proof of such recruitment.
    • Background
    Donald Trump, a prominent U.S. businessman and later president, visited Moscow in 1987 to explore hotel development opportunities. This visit has fueled speculation about his connections to Russia, especially given his later political career and policies.
    • Claim Analysis
    A former KGB officer, Alnur Mussayev, claimed on a February 2025 X post (Alnur Mussayev) that Trump was recruited by the KGB in 1987 and given the codename ‘Krasnov’. However, Mussayev’s own career history shows he was working in the Soviet Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD) in 1987, not the KGB, raising doubts about his involvement in such recruitment.
    Evidence and Credibility
    • No official documents or reports from the CIA, FBI, or other agencies confirm this claim.
    • The Mueller investigation (2019) into Trump’s 2016 campaign found no evidence of criminal conspiracy with Russia, though it didn’t specifically address 1987 events.
    • Other former KGB officers, like Yuri Shvets, have made similar claims, but these lack verifiable evidence and are often based on speculation.
    • Unexpected Detail
    While the recruitment claim seems unfounded, it’s notable that Trump’s 1987 Moscow visit was arranged with assistance from Soviet officials, potentially including the KGB, as reported by Politico Magazine, which might explain why such rumors persist.

    Survey Note: Detailed Analysis of Donald Trump and Alleged KGB Recruitment
    This section provides a comprehensive examination of the claim that Donald Trump was recruited by the Soviet Union's KGB under the codename ‘Krasnov’ in 1987, based on available information and analysis. The claim, made by former KGB officer Alnur Mussayev, has garnered significant media attention but lacks substantiation, as detailed below.
    • Context of the Claim
    • Donald Trump, known for his real estate ventures and later as the 45th U.S. President (2017–2021, and again from January 2025), visited Moscow in July 1987 to explore business opportunities, specifically building a luxury hotel. This visit, documented in his book The Art of the Deal and reported by Newsweek, was facilitated by Soviet diplomatic services, with potential KGB involvement, as suggested by Politico Magazine. This context has fueled speculation about his ties to Russia, especially given his later political stances and interactions with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
    In February 2025, Alnur Mussayev, a former head of Kazakhstan’s National Security Committee and a one-time KGB officer, claimed in a Facebook post, as cited by Kyiv Post, that Trump was recruited by the KGB during this visit and assigned the codename ‘Krasnov’. Mussayev, aged 71 at the time, stated his role was in the 6th Directorate of the KGB, focused on recruiting Western businessmen, and alleged Trump’s file is now held by Putin.
    • Analysis of Mussayev’s Credibility
    Mussayev’s claim faces significant scrutiny due to inconsistencies in his career timeline. According to his Wikipedia entry, from 1986 to 1989, he was seconded to the Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD) of the USSR, specifically in its 8th Main Directorate, not the KGB. The MVD handled internal security and law enforcement, while foreign intelligence was the KGB’s domain, as outlined by Ministry of Internal Affairs (Soviet Union) - Wikipedia. This discrepancy suggests Mussayev could not have been directly involved in KGB recruitment in 1987, casting doubt on his claim.


    Further, Mussayev’s history includes controversial accusations against the Kazakh government after fleeing to Vienna in 2007, as noted by The Economic Times, which may indicate a pattern of making unverified claims. He provided no documentary proof, alleging Trump’s file is with Putin, a claim impossible to verify without access to Russian archives.
    • Supporting and Contrasting Claims
    Mussayev is not alone in suggesting Trump had ties to Russian intelligence. Yuri Shvets, another former KGB officer, claimed in Craig Unger’s 2021 book American Kompromat, as reported by The Guardian, that Trump was cultivated as a Russian asset since the 1980s, starting with flattery during his 1987 visit. Sergei Zhyrnov, another ex-KGB officer living in France, endorsed Mussayev’s claim in an interview with a Ukrainian journalist, as noted by The Hill. However, these claims lack concrete evidence and are often speculative, relying on personal recollections rather than documents.

    Contrastingly, Snopes investigated Mussayev’s claim and found it inconsistent with his documented career, suggesting he was not in a position to make such assertions. The Mueller investigation, concluded in 2019 and reported by Hindustan Times, found no evidence of criminal conspiracy between Trump’s 2016 campaign and Russia, though it didn’t specifically address 1987 events.
    • Trump’s Denials and Official Investigations
    Trump has repeatedly denied having improper ties to Russia, as noted by The Economic Times, dismissing such allegations as “fake news” and “ridiculous”. While he hasn’t directly responded to Mussayev’s specific claim, as reported by Euronews, his general denials align with the lack of evidence.


    The FBI opened an inquiry in 2017 into whether Trump was secretly working on behalf of Russia, as reported by The New York Times, but this focused on his presidency and 2016 campaign, not 1987. No CIA reports specifically addressing the KGB recruitment claim were found, as per searches on Snopes and other sources.
    • Implications and Speculation
    The claim has reignited debates about Trump’s Russia ties, particularly given his policies like skepticism of NATO and praise for Putin, as noted by The Times of India. Some argue this could be kompromat (compromising material), but others suggest his stance reflects personal worldview or business interests. The absence of proof doesn’t disprove the claim, but Occam’s razor favors simpler explanations over espionage theories.

    u used the word ''contraversial''
    the ONLY wotrd i was going quote i agree it seems far fetvched but i was refruted by the CIA at age 19 in 1976
    the tactics used on mre and others are very sly
    seemingly nirmal and unimportatant]

    so lets examine this contraversy ... and the thread isnt about trupster dumpster beuing a spy\
    but it is

    so take it easy

    best scenario he wants to out trick ras/putin in my view he lost this when born, perhaps has help
    if ussr and usa could take china dow as allies -= superpkan

    if not -= disaster
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    trump the ''peace-maker''
    by peace he shall destroy many
    when say peace [agreement] know the end comes quickly

    don't believe the bible?
    there are millions wanting Satan's job, the speCIAl place in hell

    do you believe in the possibility thermonuclear vaporization of surface life
    remember trump mentioned it when threatened Zelenskyy

    Slavic mail order brides prostitute scandals, his team convicted felons
    do you know the laws governing government
    i do

    take a good look at this man, likes kim jong un, likes mafia types wise guys cosa nostra goons thugs and fascism, is ab
    ego adrenaline junkie, listen to those who know him and risk criticizing him
    look at a destroyed stock market and good trade relations
    and the sissy whiner who says we;er being taken advantage of, this isnt what made USA great

    honesty hard work and dignity made greatness did USA steal the land no
    'read
    'the natives openly offered ti share it and many benefited from it and many scam and cheat their tribes blaming white man who stole our land

    we brought the masters of invention
    light bulbs
    electricity
    'cars
    electromagnetism



    Isaac Newton ========= modern math matrix
    Leonardo da Vinci ========= airplane car
    Michael Faraday ========= father of electricity
    James Clerk Maxwell ========= electromagnatics/optics
    Lise Meitner ========= mother of the a-bomb math
    Nikola Tesla ========= gatekeeper of lightning a/c current
    Guglielmo Marconi ========= ?
    Thomas Alva Edison ========= incandescent light bulb
    Alexander Graham Bell ========= telephone
    Karl Benz ========= automobile
    Wright brothers, Orville and Wilbur ========= air flight
    Charles Babbage ========= the father of computing
    philo t farnsworth with an early televisionGetty Images
    Philo T. Farnsworth ========= electronic television
    Samuel F.B. Morse ========= inventor of the telegraph
    George Eastman ========= invented the Kodak camera
    James West ========= microphones
    Henry Ford =========
    Galileo Galilei/Hans Lippershey
    lidsa meitner

    our European ancestors extended family made America great\]
    got patents ?
    i du
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    Does anybody know????
    where Trump stands????

    Anybody know where Musk stands?


    We are all citizens of the Earth...
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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Quote Posted by 7he5ource (here)
    Was Donald Trump recruited by the KGB under codename ‘Krasnov’?
    https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows...dename-krasnov

    She is referencing the Steele Dossier as evidence.

    Can't you find better quality garbage to pollute the internet and waste our time with than this?
    no
    i have heard trump with and around [ras]putin repeatedly making reference to ww3
    so much so do their words and actions indicate that they are working in concert towards agenda ww3
    and my info doesn't come from internet, but you indicate your ''garbage'' does how insulting to spend a day on a forum with plebes who cannot see these 2 [at least ] are 1]
    and looking for a reason or a fabricated reason to use nukes on Europe
    at the time Britain's top general on retirement wrote a novel based on intel at the time The Third World War:
    Sir John Winthrop Hackett ... have you read 50 yrs on military analysis? or an internet troll questioning the data
    be Network Systems Analyst
    ive spoken with 2 CIA officer with my dad in the 70s
    nothing has changed
    glasnost
    perestroika

    these 2 were informative unlike yourself offering good data on how USSR's attack on Europe would unfold
    and mentioned USA would be reluctant to face the Kremlin;s arsenal
    mention a state south of Balkans [ukraire] acting as monkey in the middle and
    also the 1st nuke coming from BELARUS with Kremlin denying guilt

    that the middle east would become strategically les and less important as Europe is
    realized as USSR;s real ambition, all they need is to break down USA
    everything spoken then is real today
    these 2 drove from MARYland to Ottawa for a convention on this though it was decades away



    why does china call itself a SOVIET state ?
    why do u post garbage rather that good data
    go find a thread you like im 70 with 50 yrs in and out of intel

    i posted youtube garbage cause it makes the point i want heard
    trump is putin
    remember rasputin the holy devil ?
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    peacemakers with pacemakers
    Biden the diaper crapper
    these guys are old
    expect their old same ol same old

    remember in campaign mcscrooge said ''IF HILLARY IS ELECTED SHE WILL WAGE WAR WITH USSR ?
    think that MEANS anything ????????????

    what Disneyland are ppl living in?
    if Beijing, Iraq, Kremlin are vaporized wont life for kids in the west be better
    these places would be vaporized using the most caution for environmental protection
    timing megaton values [like 20] season etc

    most tech in a fore mentioned nations was stolen by spies and in western intellectual property
    and they openly say they want to destroy the west'

    this means you]
    any helped in the white house makes it more like next week than 3o more years

    see inventors list above

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    https://theconversation.com/has-dona...elensky-252767

    3 scenarios i consider


    1 Vladimir and Vladimir used an orchestrated war to exhaust US military / public
    2 USA and USSR have orchestrated war games to deceive China for future attacks on china
    3 the mainstream news is true there are no hidden alliances or secret tricks planned



    Ive watched all news channels [BBC CNN NBC GLOBAL CBC AUS ETC for up to 5 hours a day
    ALL reported that Trump ordered the pentagon to launch a 1st surprise strike ob China
    near the end og 1st term

    TODAY i can find no evidence of this after watching it on 3 major TV networks and chcking backup data on internet
    byw the pentagon [treason] refused the command

    this is when Trump went to supreme court to test if the Pres has REAL power or its just a miss America pageant
    ceremonial position

    court ruled president is above all law !
    this made Biden in effect a KING
    and now trump
    by law


    but what if any can ppl believe anymore?
    news doesnt report stocks as they did daily in 50s
    story of the highest importance disappear as though it never happened [Mandela effect = rewrite history/future using internet as the primary info source


    mass extinction will come from overpopulation earth can only sustain a few million ppl with their tech/industry
    a global nuke war wouldve bee a merciful act compared to plagues disease and no resources like water
    but could blow earths atmosphere off

    back to why i bother
    I am quite certain the mafia elite [includes mcsrooge duck and [ras]putin] plan to use these old nukes they wont be viable much longer

    and those in the nuke club need a plan
    i could almost laugh if someone claimed the putin-trump mafia didnt exist

    to much Brady bunch not enough academia to have credentials for a valid opinion
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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    [*]The evidence leans toward this claim being unsubstantiated, with inconsistencies in Mussayev’s career timeline and no credible supporting evidence.

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    • of course

      trump was already bankrupt
      hotels in russia a good investment?
      marries 2 Slavic wives
      never has a bad word for putin or bibi
      despite openly asking putin hack Hillary's devices
      then when the meet putin denies and trump agrees

      Orwell called this double-speak are you confused?


    • Background
    Donald Trump, a prominent U.S. businessman and later president, visited Moscow in 1987 to explore hotel development opportunities. This visit has fueled speculation about his connections to Russia, especially given his later political career and policies.
    • Claim Analysis
    A former KGB officer, Alnur Mussayev, claimed on a February 2025 X post (Alnur Mussayev) that Trump was "recruited" by the KGB in 1987 and given the codename ‘Krasnov’. However, Mussayev’s own career history shows he was working in the Soviet Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD) in 1987, not the KGB, raising doubts about his involvement in such "recruitment".
    • Alledged "Evidence" and Credibility
    • No official documents or reports from the CIA, FBI, or other agencies confirm this claim.
    • The Mueller investigation (2019) into Trump’s 2016 campaign found no evidence of criminal conspiracy with Russia.
    • Other former KGB officers, like Yuri Shvets, have made similar claims, but these lack verifiable evidence and are based on speculation.
    • Unexpected Detail
    While the "recruitment" claim seems unfounded, it’s notable that Trump’s 1987 Moscow visit was arranged with assistance from Soviet officials, potentially including the KGB, as reported by Politico Magazine, which might explain why such rumors persist.
    • Survey Note: Detailed Analysis of Donald Trump and Alleged "KGB Recruitment"
    This section provides a comprehensive examination of the claim that Donald Trump was "recruited" by the Soviet Union's KGB under the codename ‘Krasnov’ in 1987, based on available information and analysis. The claim, made by former KGB officer Alnur Mussayev, has garnered significant media attention but lacks substantiation, as detailed below.
    • Context of the Claim
    • Donald Trump, known for his real estate ventures and later as the 45th U.S. President (2017–2021, and again from January 2025), visited Moscow in July 1987 to explore business opportunities, specifically building a luxury hotel. This visit, documented in his book The Art of the Deal and reported by Newsweek, was facilitated by Soviet diplomatic services, with potential KGB involvement, as suggested by Politico Magazine. This context has fueled speculation about his ties to Russia, especially given his later political stances and interactions with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
    In February 2025, Alnur Mussayev, a former head of Kazakhstan’s National Security Committee and a one-time KGB officer, claimed in a Facebook post, as cited by Kyiv Post, that Trump was allegedly "recruited by the KGB" during this visit and assigned the codename ‘Krasnov’. Mussayev, aged 71 at the time, stated his role was in the 6th Directorate of the KGB, focused on recruiting Western businessmen, and alleged Trump’s file is now held by Putin.
    • Analysis of Mussayev’s Credibility
    Mussayev’s claim faces significant scrutiny due to inconsistencies in his career timeline. According to his Wikipedia entry, from 1986 to 1989, he was seconded to the Ministry of Internal Affairs (MVD) of the USSR, specifically in its 8th Main Directorate, not the KGB. The MVD handled internal security and law enforcement, while foreign intelligence was the KGB’s domain, as outlined by Ministry of Internal Affairs (Soviet Union) - Wikipedia. This discrepancy suggests Mussayev could not have been directly involved in KGB recruitment in 1987, casting doubt on his claim.

    Further, Mussayev’s history includes unproven accusations against the Kazakh government after fleeing to Vienna in 2007, as noted by The Economic Times, which may indicate a pattern of making

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    putin spent his whole life in intel/KGB
    mcscrooge openly says he doesnt trust it
    its ''deep-state''

    the KGB russian mafia has tried to destroy USA internally since ww2
    now trump wants PEACE

    im not religious just semi literate
    the bible says "HE SHALL DESTROY MANY BY PEACE" [groovy baby KGB NOT CIA drugs on USA youth]
    then
    "when THEY say PEACE/SHALOM know the end comes quickly

    one thing about trump take 2
    he moves FAST
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    Quote Posted by 7he5ource (here)
    Canada a state ...

    remained loyal to the queen/throne/ancestral extended family
    had two military wars with USA and burnt down the white house twice in said wars
    USA did not win ww2 they tricked Canada to go into the beach-heads 1st [Dieppe] Canada suffering more casualties as Americans walked on over their dead bodies
    history and Hollywood omit this vital point Canada won ww2
    when the Shaw of Iran was ousted Canada issued Canadian passports to 48 CIA operatives pretending to
    be American diplomats and embassy staff
    Canada supported numerous USA military adventurism abroad acting as peacekeeping forces
    British royals always preferred Canada to USA for being a society of rule of law, and war heroes that saved Europe [not lawsuits] and less belligerent violent society
    Canada remains loyal to its "gene pool of extended ancestral family in Europe" USA betrayed its ancestral homeland
    Canada does not export drugs to USA its the opposite
    if the the USA/Canadian border were militarized this would cost trillions
    and much of USA's weapons systems are on Canadian soil [NORAD] and should be removed if we aren't allies/friends
    all USA military personal/diplomats expelled and the USA embassy littered with spy devices should be demolished
    Canada is half french colony if the 2 join all Americans must learn french

    psychological war
    verbal war
    gender war
    military war

    war is war USA has declared war on Canada ... and USA NORAD bases in Canada should be removed or sabotaged, nuclear silos buried under tonnes of concrete unless removed
    all NORAD facilities destroyed leaving USA unprotected open nuclear attack

    What if Canadian troops should invade USA and execute orders of optimum kill
    Is it better in hell to die proud patriots than join the trump mafia sissies sect of killionaire nerds

    Canada doesn't need USA ... lets use Trump thinking here
    NUKE EM ALL !

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    why pick on Canada ?

    Russia wants it

    Does Canada have lots of resources?
    Canada is the global leader in potash production and ranks among the top five global producers of diamonds, gemstones, gold, indium, niobium, platinum group metals, titanium concentrate and uranium. Canada is also the world's fourth-largest producer of primary aluminum


    uranium from the CANU REACTOR sod to India gave them the a bomb
    then pakis, then UER, then over 290 nations currently have suckcesssfully tested A bombs
    Canada and France helping Iran didn't make peace on earth it made over 20 nuclear armed nation enough to destroy serveral solar systems
    quoting me
    i wanted to add the following


    it should be mentioned that Canada invented designed and manufactured many of USA weapons
    tech ... think of Litton who made the guidance systems that deliver all ICBM missiles

    two Ottawa friends went south to work for NSA
    they related that near 40 percent of employees were from Canada

    because of megamouth Ive considered how a conventional war between Canada and USA would go ????????
    certainly USA would never find another ally either way

    canada holds immense amounts of sensitive intelligence material [could be given/sold to iraq or other adversary
    on USA cabana would make an unfathomable enemy to USA
    bringing embarrassment and the certainty of trumps removal
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    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Sq-CNlF-N40
    Melania Calls Putin the Plumber! (Part 1)





    Melania Calls Putin the Plumber! (Part 1)
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    The title of this Project Avalon Forum Thread is MISLEADING ... change the title in to that "some have speculations without real evidence" and/or add a QUESTION MARK is far more accurate.
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    Actually I'm giving serious consideration to placing this entire thread in the 'Known Hoaxes and other misinformation' sub forum

    Well below Avalon standards, in my view.
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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
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    Actually I'm giving serious consideration to placing this entire thread in the 'Known Hoaxes and other misinformation' sub forum

    Well below Avalon standards, in my view.
    Yes. The thread title doesn't even have a question mark. And considering Putin was arguably the real Leader of the Free World before Trump was elected, even if Trump was a 'Russian Asset' (which he's clearly not!) I would loudly applaud Trump and Putin working closely together, which they may well now start to do.

    (For anyone reading this who still doesn't yet realize, RUSSIA IS NO-ONE'S ENEMY.)


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    Due to Trumps efforts, Nato is on track to be better funded and equipped. If he's an asset for Russia I would be very surprised.

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    Actually I'm giving serious consideration to placing this entire thread in the 'Known Hoaxes and other misinformation' sub forum

    Well below Avalon standards, in my view.
    And well below the standards of most of the hoaxes in the 'Known Hoaxes and other misinformation' forum IMHO.

    There is actually an art to constructing a good hoax and an art to debunking it. But there is no art here, just a huge incomprehensible word salad of emotions projected at political personages here. And for a hoax to be "known" you have to get to know it, have to make sense of it. Not sure you can do that here.

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    Quote Posted by Sirus (here)
    Due to Trumps efforts, Nato is on track to be better funded and equipped. If he's an asset for Russia I would be very surprised.
    Just passing this thread... yes, all EU countries, including my small Slovenia... will give much much money away.. for military's funding of NATO or other way...
    People are not happy with this political decision... fear mongering is causing so much confusion in all members in EU... which is some way also answer to Trump's demands... requirement... to get/give much money to NATO... what??? He still want to be in NATO?
    I was expecting him.. to step out, if he is a good friend with Putin..
    My 2 cents...

    Maybe because he wants to sell more weapons to EU... self serving bitch!!!
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