UK General Election 2024, and its aftermath

[grapevine]

This Has Happened Before

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PawJ03AIFwQ

(39.10)
Very interesting video about what's going on with Nigel Farage/Reform and worth a view imo.

Unlike Ben Habib (aka Sir Hiss, who has fully used this opportunity for back-stabbing up to the hilt), Godfrey Bloom gives a more defined view of the problems within Reform at the moment. What Bloom says is perfectly true; this situation has occurred time and time again and it seems that although charistmatic and influential Nigel is unmatchable on the podium, rallying people to the cause and giving stick to the poor performance of the government, in reality he's unable to lead and keep his party in line, and his ego won't allow him stand aside for a person who is more suited to the leadership role. Ashridge Business School was mentioned, once a great British leadership and management flagship. But at 60 years of age, perhaps it's too late to teach an old dog new tricks. Sorry Nige

Going forward, can Reform be salvaged? There's far too much at stake to allow the only viable Opposition Party it to bite the dust.

One of the "under comments" on YT held a slant which I hadn't contemplated, and that is the suggested cold shoulder of Nigel by Donald Trump. I know Nigel wasn't invited to his inauguration but went along anyway (invited by someone else *) but I'd put that down to Kier Starmer not being invited and thus loss of face for the British PM, which wouldn't be good even if there's no love lost on either side. Anyway, here it is:

"@glendakirby5579
22 hours ago
Yes I think a lot of us were right about Elon Musk too.If you are going to throw turds at people,best do it in private i'd say. He deserved better than that. Then he got to America and found he was nothing special in the Trump world,and got shut out in the rain with the other also rans' The fast pace of it all and trying to be all things to all people became too much for someone not in the first flush, but I still maintain he has achieved more in his life so far than most in ten lifetimes, SO, I hope he won't cave, but learn to delegate, and be the MC, put your best talents where they achieve their best results, encourage them. You are all experiencing some new territory, help each other, cut a bit of slack, this could still be overcome. Olive branches Gentlemen please!"

Edit:
*was invited by Mississippi Governor Phil Bryant

[Bill Ryan]

Astonishing scenes in the UK Parliament's Prime Minister's Question Time, when Kier Starmer brought his Chancellor (= Finance Minister), who was sitting right beside him, to tears.

UK [Finance Minister] Reeves driven to tears. Starmer on his way out

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jq2gHHaUOyA

[grapevine]

Zia Yusef, Reform Party -
Time to put British people first

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=MaURHffoL10

Operation Restoring Justice Conference

IF Reform get voted in they'll have such a lot to put right and likely run into the same problems the USA is undergoing. I do wish Ben Habib and Rupert Lowe would mend fences with Reform and not split the vote. It's very disappointing that they would put their own interests first. With the best will in the world, Tommy Robinson isn't cut out to be a politician

[norman]

Posted by grapevine (here)
Zia Yusef, Reform Party -
"Time to put British people first"

IF Reform get voted in they'll have such a lot to put right and likely run into the same problems the USA is undergoing. I do wish Ben Habib and Rupert Lowe would mend fences with Reform and not split the vote. It's very disappointing that they would put their own interests first. With the best will in the world, Tommy Robinson isn't cut out to be a politician

A nice people winning line . . .but . . .

The people of this country are too desperate to think all this through rationally. Machiavelli would be pissing himself laughing right now.

3 years is a very long time in politics and it's all still very liquid. Take a deep breath and let's put the people in charge, not prescription spun up figureheads with bloody great big 'mint' embedded water marks, if you hold them up to the right light.

I chopped this chunk out of a very recent Tommy Robinson interview because it was far too distant from the start of it for most people to ever hear it. What he says is exactly what I mean by 3 years being a long time in politics and we shouldn't be rushing to quench our worldly desperation as slam-dunk quick as we now seem to be doing. The freshly amped up intensity of public interest in the political layer of the country's affairs is very fertile ground for new possibilities we would otherwise never have imagined doable.

The people want an alternative to what they've been sold forever. If we weren't so fed up and desperate would ANY of the current offerings on the stage really look alternative ?


MP3 - 4 mins
Hmm, Farage's white flag and Yusuf's muscle
https://app.box.com/s/7qjeq0kdxdtu4lvldzscu1lkjvgh3x6h

oh, and, "1 in 1 out" sounds a hell of a lot like a complementary replacement policy to me.

[Brigantia]

Posted by norman (here)
3 years is a very long time in politics and it's all still very liquid.

They will have to get the budget through this month; with all their back bench rebellions there is a chance that their budget may be defeated.

You know what that means? It triggers a general election. Fingers crossed, everyone.

[norman]

Posted by Brigantia (here)

Posted by norman (here)
3 years is a very long time in politics and it's all still very liquid.

They will have to get the budget through this month; with all their back bench rebellions there is a chance that their budget may be defeated.

You know what that means? It triggers a general election. Fingers crossed, everyone.

hha, so that's why they tabled an IMF loan, so they could deliver a christmas stocking full of budget goodies and keep rolling without having to sell a few hectares of the empire.