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    • We Need to Talk about TikTok Mass Data Mining AND possible future A.I. uses?:

    "This is BEYOND your wildest imagination" ... Joe Rogan as he delves into the intrusive nature of TikTok and the potential threats to your privacy. With recent revelations about cross-platform spying and uncanny suggestions based on private conversations, the question arises: Does TikTok listen to our conversations? And if so, what do they do with our data?

    Joe Rogan explores the origins and rapid rise of TikTok, shedding light on its Chinese ownership and the concerns surrounding data security. While there's no definitive proof of American data being passed to Chinese officials, the fact remains that all companies in China are legally obligated to comply with government requests for information.

    The video highlights disturbing instances of TikTok's data collection practices, including the transfer of private user data to servers in China and potential breaches of European data rules. Investigations have also raised concerns about national security and political content censorship. With the inability to summon TikTok executives to the Senate, the implications become even more unsettling.

    Joe Rogan examines the differences between TikTok and other social media platforms like Facebook, emphasizing that TikTok's ownership by a Chinese company makes it subject to Chinese government demands. He delves into historical examples of power misuse and the potential risks associated with having personal data accessible to the government.
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    This conversation is one I am finding very thought provoking. It talks about so many things but one that stood out for me is "the mandela effect". Jason Breshear has theorized that Artificial Intelligence X is ancient and we are in a simulacrum. IF we are embedded in a "program" and IF there is an external realm, COULD the mandela effect be a communication to those who are awakening in the program? Listen here from 37:52 as it is very intriguing. I have listened to Jason off and on for a couple of years and think he is sincere.


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    Google’s hastily rolled out AI Overview feature is disastrously broken, returning searches claiming that people should spread glue on pizzas, eat rocks, and that it’s safe for pregnant women to smoke cigarettes.

    https://modernity.news/2024/05/28/go...ningly-broken/

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    Sabine Hossenfelder, who is a former physicist and now a Youtuber usually commenting on physics, and whose Youtube videos I enjoy listening to (she's got a quick sense of humor), critiques AI as a tool to write software.

    Here she's talking specifically about the new AI fad, large language models, that can engage with users in ordinary human languages.

    She concludes that AI does not and in its current incarnations, will not, serve that purpose well. It doesn't "think" like a good programmer needs to think, with quite technically specific meanings to specific symbols and words.

    I totally agree. I may be like an old farrier (equine hoof care specialist) complaining that Model T mechanics will never know their horses properly ... but if that's my limitation, so be it.

    Sabine had fun with this one ... enjoy listening.
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    The above is not to say that I might not have nascent designs in my mind for using AI ... but it would be more focused applications, where the serious "software engineering" architecting and much of the precision "nuts and bolts" programming was in my hands, and it would just be a specific sort of pattern matching task that was being spoon fed to my local AI engine. I can imagine using such in either the Avalon forum firewall or the Avalon Library search function ... don't hold your breath however.
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    I sometimes wonder if i AM an ai
    I mean, how tf would i tell the difference
    Not that it matters what I am or anything .. seen as i can't help it anyway

    Dunno about you guys but I get a sneaking feeling about this AI stuff, like it uh.... already happened?

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    A brief synopsis...

    Quote Tech companies just committed $500 billion to rent data centers. No, wait. Sorry. I’ve just been handed a correction. It’s actually trillions. Multiple trillions. The accountants are still counting. They’ve run out of fingers.

    You see, that $500 billion was just the buildings. The rentals. The bit where you don’t actually own anything. Which is a bit like announcing you’ve bought a very expensive car and then mentioning, oh by the way, we still need an engine. UBS now projects - and I want you to sit down for this - $1.3 trillion per year by 2030. Per year. That’s trillion with a T. As in “terrifying” or “that can’t possibly be right” or “Terry, go check those numbers again.”

    Goldman Sachs thinks there’s another $200 billion we’re not accounting for. Bank of America revised its estimate upward by $145 billion last month. In a single month. Nobody knows what anything costs anymore. It’s like watching someone’s wedding budget spiral except the wedding is for marrying artificial intelligence and nobody’s quite sure if the bride is real.

    The actual spending this year is $405 billion and accelerating at 62% year-over-year growth. Remember when analysts thought 2025 would be $250 billion? Then it became $280 billion. Then $300 billion. Then $365 billion. Now it’s $405 billion and we’re only in December. At this rate, by the time you finish reading this sentence, someone will have revised it upward again.

    Microsoft alone plans to spend between $94 billion and $140 billion this year when you include capital leases. I’m sorry, did you catch that range? $94 billion to $140 billion. That’s a $46 billion margin of error. That’s like saying “I’m planning to spend either three dollars or the GDP of New Zealand on groceries this week, haven’t quite decided yet.”

    Meta lifted its guidance to $70-72 billion. Amazon expects $118 billion, up from $83 billion last year. Alphabet raised its budget to $92 billion from an initial $75 billion. These are annual numbers. Every single year. These companies will spend this much every year.

    For perspective - and I feel we’ve lost all perspective so let’s try to find some - that’s more than the European Union allocated for defense in 2023. Except instead of tanks and missiles and things that go boom, we’re getting server farms in rural Virginia that go hummmmm.

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    Quote Posted by Ewan (here)
    A brief synopsis...

    Quote Tech companies just committed $500 billion to rent data centers. No, wait. Sorry. I’ve just been handed a correction. It’s actually trillions. Multiple trillions. The accountants are still counting. They’ve run out of fingers.

    You see, that $500 billion was just the buildings. The rentals. The bit where you don’t actually own anything. Which is a bit like announcing you’ve bought a very expensive car and then mentioning, oh by the way, we still need an engine. UBS now projects - and I want you to sit down for this - $1.3 trillion per year by 2030. Per year. That’s trillion with a T. As in “terrifying” or “that can’t possibly be right” or “Terry, go check those numbers again.”

    Goldman Sachs thinks there’s another $200 billion we’re not accounting for. Bank of America revised its estimate upward by $145 billion last month. In a single month. Nobody knows what anything costs anymore. It’s like watching someone’s wedding budget spiral except the wedding is for marrying artificial intelligence and nobody’s quite sure if the bride is real.

    The actual spending this year is $405 billion and accelerating at 62% year-over-year growth. Remember when analysts thought 2025 would be $250 billion? Then it became $280 billion. Then $300 billion. Then $365 billion. Now it’s $405 billion and we’re only in December. At this rate, by the time you finish reading this sentence, someone will have revised it upward again.

    Microsoft alone plans to spend between $94 billion and $140 billion this year when you include capital leases. I’m sorry, did you catch that range? $94 billion to $140 billion. That’s a $46 billion margin of error. That’s like saying “I’m planning to spend either three dollars or the GDP of New Zealand on groceries this week, haven’t quite decided yet.”

    Meta lifted its guidance to $70-72 billion. Amazon expects $118 billion, up from $83 billion last year. Alphabet raised its budget to $92 billion from an initial $75 billion. These are annual numbers. Every single year. These companies will spend this much every year.

    For perspective - and I feel we’ve lost all perspective so let’s try to find some - that’s more than the European Union allocated for defense in 2023. Except instead of tanks and missiles and things that go boom, we’re getting server farms in rural Virginia that go hummmmm.
    Reading this just now, the primary thought which popped into my head was 'This sounds like a ponzi scheme', or some other way of committing mass fraud. Considering the amount of money involved, the overall method of spending that money, and the quality of the resulting product, it makes me feel like the vast majority of that money is being laundered somehow.

    Imagine I said to you, a prospective investor 'Hey, if you give me several billion dollars I'm going to invest it in some rental property, this rental property will be used to make a useless product that almost nobody really wants, let's say rainbow colored cotton swabs, and over the course of several years the costs will increase exponentially.' would you trust me with your money? Likely not, unless you knew I was actually laundering that money and you'd be getting a kickback. But these are just my thoughts and suspicions.
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