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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    I've been F5'ing the page all evening and they just dropped. The files are here, 1,123 files (many with multiple pages).
    80,000+ pages in all.

    This is the first genuinely valuable research use for AI that I can think of. Maybe someone can ask Grok 3, ChatGPT 4 (or anything else!) —>
    Solely from the data published on https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release-2025, please list the names of all the shooters who hit JFK with bullets on November 22, 1963, also stating (a) which organizations or groups they worked for or were acting for, and (b) where they were positioned when they took the shots.

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    The big question now is are the documents unredacted?
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    I've been F5'ing the page all evening and they just dropped. The files are here, 1,123 files (many with multiple pages).
    80,000+ pages in all.

    This is the first genuinely valuable research use for AI that I can think of. Maybe someone can ask Grok 3, ChatGPT 4 (or anything else!) —>
    Solely from the data published on https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release-2025, please list the names of all the shooters who hit JFK with bullets on November 22, 1963, also stating (a) which organizations or groups they worked for or were acting for, and (b) where they were positioned when they took the shots.
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    Dark Journalist JFK Assassination Files Bombshell Release
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    FEATURING LIVE Q & A WITH DJ AND MISS OLIVIA
    MARCH 18 2025, 9:00PM EST

    (DJ has been reading the files (apparently unredacted! ) and says he will continue reading and reporting on them ongoing.

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    Default Re: Will Trump Release all the JFK Files?

    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    I've been F5'ing the page all evening and they just dropped. The files are here, 1,123 files (many with multiple pages).

    The link:
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    Not directly pertaining to the official JFK files, this is the first time I hear of the murder of Mary Pinchot Meyer, friend of JFK.

    "Did you know that JFK’s alleged lover, Mary Pinchot Meyer, kept a diary that mysteriously disappeared after her murder? And did you know that she reportedly believed Kennedy’s assassination was part of a much larger conspiracy?"


    What Mary Pinchot Meyer Said About JFK Before She Died

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    Default Re: Will Trump Release all the JFK Files?

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    The big question now is are the documents unredacted?
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    I've been F5'ing the page all evening and they just dropped. The files are here, 1,123 files (many with multiple pages).
    80,000+ pages in all.

    This is the first genuinely valuable research use for AI that I can think of. Maybe someone can ask Grok 3, ChatGPT 4 (or anything else!) —>
    Solely from the data published on https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release-2025, please list the names of all the shooters who hit JFK with bullets on November 22, 1963, also stating (a) which organizations or groups they worked for or were acting for, and (b) where they were positioned when they took the shots.
    Chatgpt3 said no other shooters have been named and also, when asked, revealed there are still 4,000 unreleased and classified documents.
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    Default Re: Will Trump Release all the JFK Files?

    Someone needs to assess, quickly, if there is anything in what has been released that's strategically important to the ongoing war.

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    Default Re: Will Trump Release all the JFK Files?

    • JFK FILES RELEASED: What's inside? | LiveNOW from FOX:

    Thousands of pages of files related to the assassination of former president John F. Kennedy were released Tuesday afternoon.

    Kennedy's assassination in Downtown Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963 has been a point of fascination for historians and conspiracy theorists over the years.

    The release of the documents comes after President Trump signed an executive order calling for their release in the early days of his second term.

    Some of the documents include information about Lee Harvey Oswald's travels to Finland and other places prior to the assassination. One of the documents features an assessment from a former KGB agent, who said they did not believe Oswald was ever controlled by the Russian agency after reviewing volumes of files. Other documents include follow-ups to requests for information to remain classified in the past.

    The files have been prepared by a team underneath U.S. Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard.
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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    I've been F5'ing the page all evening and they just dropped. The files are here, 1,123 files (many with multiple pages).

    The link:
    The number of files, 1,123 (last night), is now at 2,182. So maybe there's yet more to come.
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    Copying this post by Helvetic on his thread:

    ~~~

    Source: ShadowofEzra on X

    Description:

    Newly released JFK files confirm a secret intelligence pipeline between the CIA and Israeli intelligence, personally overseen by CIA counterintelligence chief James Angleton.

    This wasn’t just routine intel sharing—it was a deliberate effort to conceal Israel’s involvement in sensitive U.S. operations, bypassing standard intelligence channels.

    Angleton acted as the sole gatekeeper, ensuring that all Israeli-related intelligence was filtered through him alone.

    He also controlled the flow of intel to the FBI, carefully scrubbing reports to ensure that Israeli intelligence was never directly named—a covert operation hidden in plain sight.




    Source: Stew Peters on X

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    The CIA requested that any mention of ISRAEL be redacted in the JFK files.

    Israel is literally the ONLY thing they’re requesting to be redacted.




    Source: Geiger_Capita on X

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    The CIA assassinated JFK, the sitting President of the United States.

    “The day after the assassination, Gary Underhill left Washington. A small clique within the CIA was responsible, he confided. Less than six months later Underhill was found shot to death. Ruled a suicide.”


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    And copying this post by Helvetic also. The Dark Journalist video has already been posted above, but the summary of his takeaways is useful.

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    Dark Journalist | JFK Assassination Files Bombshell Release | Mar. 18, 2025

    Source: darkjournalist.com



    50 key takeaways of the video:

    • Release Timing: The video covers the October 2023 release of JFK assassination files, part of ongoing disclosures mandated by the 1992 JFK Records Act.

    • Core Thesis: Daniel Liszt (Dark Journalist) argues these files expose a conspiracy beyond the official "lone gunman" narrative.

    • CIA Centrality: Suggests the CIA orchestrated events, with files hinting at their deep involvement with Lee Harvey Oswald.

    • Oswald’s Mexico City Trip: Documents detail Oswald’s 1963 visit, allegedly meeting Soviet and Cuban operatives, fueling espionage theories.

    • Actionable Insight: Cross-check these files with earlier releases (e.g., 2017 batch) to identify patterns or contradictions.

    • Statistical Context: Over 14,000 documents released since 1992, yet critical files remain classified or redacted.

    • UFO-JFK Link: Liszt posits JFK’s push for UFO disclosure threatened intelligence agencies, possibly motivating his assassination.

    • Burns Memo Highlight: Cites a 1961 memo from JFK to CIA Director Allen Dulles requesting UFO data, suggesting a power struggle.

    • Cover-Up Claim: Files allegedly show deliberate efforts to obscure agency roles in the assassination.

    • Public Role: Release was spurred by public pressure after delays under Trump and Biden administrations.

    • Actionable Step: Access the National Archives’ JFK collection online to review primary documents firsthand.

    • Oswald as Operative: Files imply Oswald was a CIA or FBI asset, not an independent actor.

    • Cuba Connection: Documents suggest a Cuban link, possibly inflated to justify post-JFK policies.

    • Silvia Odio Incident: New testimony from Odio about meeting Oswald contradicts official timelines.

    • Media Dismissal: Liszt critiques mainstream media for minimizing the release’s significance.

    • Actionable Insight: Follow X posts from indie researchers for unfiltered takes on the files.

    • Continuity of Government: References a secret plan tied to the assassination, buried in obscure documents.

    • George Joannides Focus: CIA officer Joannides, linked to Oswald’s handlers, emerges as a key figure.

    • Redaction Stat: Only 3% of files remain fully withheld, but redactions obscure vital details.

    • Transparency Push: Liszt urges viewers to demand full disclosure, predicting more revelations.

    • Oswald’s Surveillance: Files show he was monitored by intelligence before the assassination.

    • Actionable Research: Compare Oswald’s Mexico City contacts with known CIA operations there.

    • JFK’s CIA Distrust: Suggests JFK’s moves to curb CIA power (post-Bay of Pigs) made him a target.

    • Document Authenticity: Liszt warns some files might be altered or planted to mislead.

    • Actionable Caution: Verify file origins and cross-reference with declassified CIA records.

    • Dallas Context: Files hint at local intelligence activity in Dallas on November 22, 1963.

    • Ruby Connection: Jack Ruby’s ties to organized crime and police are noted in new documents.

    • Actionable Insight: Investigate Ruby’s background via public records for deeper context.

    • Witness Suppression: Suggests witnesses like Odio were ignored or silenced to protect the narrative.

    • FBI Role: Files imply FBI complicity or negligence in tracking Oswald pre-assassination.

    • Statistical Delay: Releases were postponed multiple times, with deadlines missed in 2017 and 2021.

    • JFK’s Space Agenda: Ties assassination to JFK’s space race push, linked to UFO secrecy.

    • Actionable Step: Explore NASA-CIA tensions in the 1960s via historical archives.

    • Disinfo Warning: Liszt claims some released info is disinformation to confuse researchers.

    • Oswald’s Finances: Documents question how Oswald funded his activities, hinting at external support.

    • Actionable Insight: Trace Oswald’s income sources through financial records in the files.

    • Anti-Castro Ops: Files link Oswald to CIA-backed anti-Castro groups in New Orleans.

    • Fair Play for Cuba: Oswald’s pro-Cuba stance may have been a cover, per new evidence.

    • Actionable Research: Investigate the Fair Play for Cuba Committee’s ties to intelligence.

    • LBJ’s Role: Suggests Vice President Johnson benefited from JFK’s death, per file subtext.

    • Statistical Scope: Over 300,000 pages released since 1992, yet gaps persist.

    • JFK’s Peace Push: His anti-war stance (e.g., Nuclear Test Ban Treaty) may have alienated hawks.

    • Actionable Insight: Study JFK’s speeches for clues to his conflicts with the establishment.

    • Post-Assassination Moves: Files hint at rapid policy shifts (e.g., Vietnam) after JFK’s death.

    • Intel Community Fear: Suggests agencies feared JFK’s openness would expose secrets.

    • Actionable Step: Join online forums (e.g., JFKresearcher.com) to discuss findings.

    • Document Gaps: Key files on CIA operations in 1963 remain missing or heavily redacted.

    • Oswald’s Defection: His Soviet defection and return raise questions of agency handling.

    • Actionable Insight: Compare Oswald’s Soviet stint with known CIA defector programs.

    • Ongoing Mystery: Liszt concludes the files deepen, rather than resolve, the assassination enigma.

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    Default Re: Will Trump Release all the JFK Files?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    I've been F5'ing the page all evening and they just dropped. The files are here, 1,123 files (many with multiple pages).
    80,000+ pages in all.

    This is the first genuinely valuable research use for AI that I can think of. Maybe someone can ask Grok 3, ChatGPT 4 (or anything else!) —>
    Solely from the data published on https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release-2025, please list the names of all the shooters who hit JFK with bullets on November 22, 1963, also stating (a) which organizations or groups they worked for or were acting for, and (b) where they were positioned when they took the shots.
    Out of curiosity, I asked Grok3 for you, and the limitations of AI become apparent. It apparently cannot examine the files and analyze them beyond the surface data. Not helpful at all.

    This is the answer I received:

    Quote The data published on https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release-2025, as available on March 19, 2025, does not provide a definitive list of names of shooters who hit President John F. Kennedy with bullets on November 22, 1963, nor does it specify their organizational affiliations or exact positions during the assassination. The page primarily details the release of records in accordance with President Donald Trump’s directive of March 17, 2025, and Executive Order 14176, focusing on the declassification and accessibility of the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection. It states that all previously withheld records are released as of March 18, 2025, and are available online or in person at the National Archives at College Park, Maryland, but it does not summarize or present specific findings about the identities, affiliations, or locations of shooters.

    Historically, the official narrative from the Warren Commission, established to investigate the assassination, concluded that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone as the shooter, firing from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository in Dallas, Texas. However, the Archives page does not explicitly confirm or expand upon this conclusion with new names, affiliations, or positions based solely on the 2025 release data presented there. It mentions the availability of records from various investigations, including the Warren Commission, the House Select Committee on Assassinations, and the Assassination Records Review Board, but does not extract or list specific shooter-related details as requested.

    Since the page itself does not directly provide a list of shooters, their affiliations, or their positions beyond facilitating access to the broader collection, and given my instruction to rely solely on the data published on that specific URL without inventing information, I cannot provide a list of names, organizations, or locations beyond what is explicitly stated. The released records may contain relevant details, but the summary on the page does not isolate or confirm such specifics. Therefore, based strictly on the content of https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release-2025, no definitive list of shooters, their affiliations, or their positions can be provided beyond the historical attribution to Lee Harvey Oswald, with no additional shooters named or detailed therein. For a comprehensive answer, one would need to analyze the individual records now accessible through the site, which is beyond the scope of this response.
    So human researchers are still needed to dig into the files and do the leg work.

    So much for AI making humans redundant. At least for now.

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    So much for AI making humans redundant. At least for now.



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    Default Re: Will Trump Release all the JFK Files?

    There's a lot of 'bumf' and filler in these documents. I read a long, boring series of missives on the field expenses of E. Howard Hunt in relation to his activities in Spain in the late sixties. I didn't see any correlation to the JFK matter. Hunt was likely involved in the assassination somewhere, and is a likely suspect for one of the 'three tramps' arrested that day in the railroad yard behind the schoolbook depository. But it escapes me how his financial records, years after the fact, are pertinent to this archive.

    Other than the interesting (yet unsurprising) revelation of Israeli fingerprints in these documents, I haven't seen (or from other sources heard) any contradictions to the official narrative, and no smoking gun beyond the one held by Oswald at that sixth-floor window as put forward by the Warren Whitewash Commission.

    So far, 63,000 pages have been released. If the total figure of 80,000 is correct, 17,000 remain and should drop soon. I sure do hope they contain something useful.
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    Default Re: Will Trump Release all the JFK Files?

    According to the Mary Ferrell Foundation, Deep State Bureaucrats are still refusing to release one-third of the most sensitive info:


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    Default Re: Will Trump Release all the JFK Files?

    Israel was a priority for covering up. ok.

    Can someone who likes all this document studying keep an eye out for anything about priority obfuscations of others, primarily "Castro".

    I'm recently realising that Castro wasn't just some Spanish American workers revolutionary guy. Che Guevara probably was, but not Castro. Castro was far too big a fish to get assassinated (and interestingly, he never was). I'll even place him higher on the protected entities list than Israel. As a member of the Farnese family, and obviously set up as a significant power player, he's a guy to investigate. As Oswald's background story seems to have a lot to do with "Castro", the investigation could be joined at the hip with the JFK murder investigation.
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    Default Re: Will Trump Release all the JFK Files?

    This is a neat summary too although what many seasoned Avalon members would already have deduced from years of research:
    UNCOMFORTABLE TRUTH: JFK wanted to strip the CIA of its autonomy, force AIPAC (formerly AZC) to register as a foreign agent, block Israel’s nuclear ambitions, and challenge the Federal Reserve’s grip on U.S. currency.

    That’s why he was assassinated


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    Extracted from the tweXt:



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    Default Re: Will Trump Release all the JFK Files?

    I just changed the thread title to read Will Trump Release all the JFK Files? — with the addition of the word 'ALL'.

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    Default Re: Will Trump Release all the JFK Files?

    https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/1902393180277874703




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    The JFK files show that the CIA were engaged in:

    -Regime change
    -Biological warfare
    -Political/Psychological warfare
    -Global media control
    -Mass propaganda

    Sound familiar?

    There are so many parallels between what happened then and what is happening now.

    The CIA never changed.



    https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/1902247674885341467




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    Some juicy pages from the JFK files Califano Papers outlining the CIA using “political and psychological warfare” to spread their influence during the Cold War.

    These files outline the CIA plan to “penetrate” all radio and television in every country of interest, to combat the influence of the USSR and China.

    This playbook should sound familiar to everyone who just lived through the last 8 years, and watched how the USAID/Soros media network controlled almost all media around the globe to push propaganda so they could conduct regime change, a la Ukraine.

    So many parallels between what happened then, and what is happening now.



    https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/1902234357416255497



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    Damn these Operation Mongoose files are crazy.

    The CIA admit they had plans for “agriculture sabotage” by initiating crop failure via “biological agents”.

    The CIA had plans to use bioweapons for regime change.


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    Default Re: Will Trump Release all the JFK Files?

    This was covered above, here is WikiLeaks summary

    https://x.com/wikileaks/status/1902344051766260192




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    CIA suppressed top officer James Jesus Angleton's connection to Israeli intelligence as shown by this newly unredacted JFK assassination records file.

    Angleton had subverted JFK's policy of preventing Israel from acquiring nuclear weapons and was praised by Mossad head Meir Amit as "the biggest Zionist of them all". Angleton was also found to have hidden documents from the Warren Commission on the assassination of President Kennedy.

    Shortly before he died, Angleton stated "The better you lied and the more you betrayed, the more likely you would be promoted... outside of their duplicity, the only thing they had in common was a desire for absolute power."

    The file was previously "released" in 2017, 2018 and 2022 in redacted form.



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    Second time he’s posted this.

    Never forget that they know.

    It’s only a matter of time.


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