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    Default Re: Pyramids' True Purpose Finally Discovered: Advanced Ancient Technology

    AI makes sense of it. AI is known to halucinate, no paredolia needed.

    I appreciate the various levels of enthusiasm here, for this topic. I think there are valuable things to learn here, possibly about new imaging techniques, and likely about gullibility to nonsense.


    I appreciate most, how the gentle skeptics present their uneasiness. Special mention Nasu and Valk and Michi and Bill and Ona.


    If I had to vote now, I could only say no. Because, if this new tech can look 1-2 km underground, it concievably look at deep military bunkers like the new Chinese one being constructed near Beijing. No way any substantial data is allowed public.

    In my highschool physics class, my teacher spoke about a new satellite sensing capability that was first available publicly, but was soon made private, because it showed paths of submerged submarines by iirc phosphorescence of many tiny ocean critters due to the passing pressure/waves.


    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Update: English auto-translated subtitles have just now been made available via the YouTube settings.
    Subtitles/CC > Auto-translate > English
    However, it's still a little hard to follow! Maybe an official English translation would be clearer. (Better still, an English PDF.)

    Edit to add:

    But one takeaway I got from this fairly quickly (if I understood it correctly, which I think I did) is that the simplified drawings of the structures, which have now gone viral, were AI-created and AI-interpreted from the scan data.

    It seems they were not merely a product of overactive human creative imagination. He explains that AI programs don't exhibit pareidolia (the human tendency to 'see' meaningful shapes in random 'noise'.) That section is at (very approximately) 2:55:00 into the video.

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    I'm enjoying Brian Roemmele's explorations at the moment. On this thread he links the coiling nature currently being observed to smaller yet familiar shaped objects on the Indian sub-continent, as per:

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    According to the scan data, there is something there, but 'what', is unknown, and it shall remain unknown physical excavations take place ('Over my dead body,' says Zahi Hawass..)


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    • Scientists Just Discovered Something Massive Beneath The Pyramid Of Giza:

    Recent research done by scientists may actually prove the existence of 8 giant pillars underneath the Giza pyramids, but is it really there or is it a crazy theory ?
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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    I'm enjoying Brian Roemmele's explorations at the moment. On this thread he links the coiling nature currently being observed to smaller yet familiar shaped objects on the Indian sub-continent, as per:

    Apologies in advance for this (most-likely) off-topic post, but this image strongly reminds me of the central-pillar-attached spiral staircase spanning the whole length of the underground living structure in the Apple Sci-Fi series Silo, which I recommend.

    Quote Silo is an American science fiction dystopian drama television series created by Graham Yost, based on the Silo trilogy of novels (Wool, Shift, and Dust) by author Hugh Howey. Set in a dystopian future where a community exists in a giant underground silo comprising 144 levels, it stars Rebecca Ferguson as an engineer who becomes embroiled in the mysteries of its past and present.

    ...
    In a dystopian future where a community exists in a giant silo that extends 144 stories underground, 10,000 people live in a society bound by regulations they believe are meant to protect them.




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    • Something MASSIVE was JUST Found Beneath the Pyramids of Giza:

    What lies 648 meters beneath the Giza pyramids will shatter everything you thought you knew about ancient history. Eight massive spiral wells plunging deeper than the Empire State Building is tall. Underground chambers that could house entire skyscrapers. Evidence of advanced technology that existed 12,000 years ago. The truth is more extraordinary than any fiction.
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    • Beneath the Pyramids | The Giza Scan Controversy Examined & the Tomb of the Birds | Megalithomania:

    An examination of the new scan data looking at what is really underneath Khafre's Pyramid on the Giza Plateau and an exploration of Giza's cave underworld that is linked to these new discoveries, with Andrew Collins and Hugh Newman.
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    • Shocking Discoveries Under the Pyramids : Everything I Remote Viewed in 2025:
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    • Massive Structures Found Hidden Beneath The Pyramid of Khafre! ... This Could Change Everything!:

    What lies beneath the Pyramid of Khafre? If you enjoyed this video, check out more FULL FREE episodes from the Gaia series "Ancient Civilizations" on our Gaia portal 👉 gaia.com/5thkind . New satellite radar scans have revealed what researchers describe as vast underground formations — including vertical shafts, spiral pathways, and enormous structures buried deep beneath the Giza Plateau. Could this be evidence of a long-lost underground city? Or even a connection to the legendary Hall of Records?
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    Default Re: Pyramids' True Purpose Finally Discovered: Advanced Ancient Technology

    The news is all spreading far and wide. (With ever-mounting speculation, connections to ideas and claims far less easily verifiable, and numerous misunderstandings and exaggerations as the 'game of telephone' continues on social media.)

    Here's Clayton Morris from Redacted, with a 15 minute feature they published yesterday. The dramatic video title is an illustration of the problem.

    Giza Pyramid Cover-Up EXPOSED: Massive City, Hidden Tunnels and Ancient Tech Beneath the Pyramids!


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    Almost all of my own thoughts about this are through the lens I'm becoming set in using to view everything in the information landscape, the 5th generation warfare lens.

    Because that's how my head is mostly working nowadays, I'm staying right out of the tec' geekery lens view based conversation here, respectfully so. I'm obviously interested in how the tec' geekery story develops but I have nothing to contribute to it except maybe the odd stupid question from time to time.

    Previously, I asked a question straight out of my 5th gen warfare view. I asked if consumer grade A.I. apps could help us quickly know more about all the players involved in this sensational breaking news. I hoped someone would take me up on that.

    Oh well . . .

    But here I go with another question. This time, I'm stepping over into the geekery zone tho', all be it, it's definitely in the stupid question category. You can laugh or despise, it's all ok with me, but ask it I will.

    Q: is the ground directly under the pyramids a composite refill or is it virgin bedrock ?
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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
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    Previously, I asked a question straight out of my 5th gen warfare view. I asked if consumer grade A.I. apps could help us quickly know more about all the players involved in this sensational breaking news. I hoped someone would take me up on that.
    ...
    Q: is the ground directly under the pyramids a composite refill or is it virgin bedrock ?
    There are dozens of consumer grade AI apps that are publicly available for a price that at least a few Avalon members could afford to make use of if they chose to.

    Just like there might be dozens of artisans, carpenters, electricians, plumbers, cabinet makers, and other construction people and small businesses in any of the small towns that some of us live in.

    The only way to know which one of those construction people, if any, can handle some unusual construction task you have in mind, to your satisfaction, is ask around about each of them and talk with the ones that seem like they might be good at that.

    AI systems are like that ... each is developed with certain strengths, provided with some amount of compute horsepower, and trained on certain data. Presently the various AI apps aren't particularly well trained on what _other_ AI apps are also available and on what areas each of the AI apps is most competent. If you drive into a small town in the Midwest U.S. and ask Joe the Plumber to help you with an electrical problem on your RV, Joe might suggest you talk to Ed the Electrician ... no such luck with AI apps so far. You just have to find them (and a few articles and videos that survey them) and figure out which ones, if any, know the area you're asking about well enough for your purposes.

    ... and if you want to ask that same question a couple of months from now ... start your survey all over again ... the AI app lineup keeps changing.

    I would also guess that a few of the biggest AI engines, that use 100's of thousands of high end Nvidia AI cards, spend much of their time crunching data and finding answers for questions of interest to our nation-state (and above) level institutions. I trust that Elon Musk and NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang know more details of such efforts.

    Regarding the pyramids, it's my current understanding that the bedrock under the Giza Plateau has a large (something like a half km by a km, I forget exactly) hole carved out, below the three great Pyramids, which hole now contains an immense construction of eight tall cylinders on top of a couple of immense "boxes". Anyone who has a similar understanding is pretty confident that that large hole was not cut out of solid granite and filled with that immense construction, strong enough to easily up hold the pyramids themselves, by an army of slave laborers using bronze hand tools within decades of time.

    ... but I am not AI ... so I doubt you were asking me that

    I don't plan to ask AI about this Pyramid story ... I don't need an answer enough to "discuss" that topic with AI bots (that are available to cheapskate me) that probably don't know anymore, or even as much as, I think I already know. I've worked professionally, with the precedent technology to Synthetic Aperture Radar and also with Fast Fourier Transforms such as were used to crunch the current pyramid data, I've spent many hours studying the investigations into the potential high end technology uses of the Pyramids, and I've spent many hours over many years following the work to rebuild our current conventional physics, astronomy, and history. I'm comfortable with my intuitions that "there is a there there", well beyond the current conventional "pharaoh tomb stone" narrative.
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    It's not the tec' I wanted the AI to work on. It's the people ( and any other people in the background ).

    I don't use Grok or Deepseek and I'm not likely to but I thought there were plenty of people here who are always playing around with them. There have even been arguments that gave me the impression there were even devotees to AI here.

    I thought it would be easy to quickly dig up a mass of information about the people ( not the product they are presenting )

    I kinda thought, if AI can't make light work of that, what use IS it to me, and the way my mind works and prioritises quest solutions, when presented with something new to process and make sense of.

    In a nutshell, I didn't want to get too far down or bogged down on someone else's entrainment trail of novelty before I'd had a good feel for who was presenting this novelty.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    The news is all spreading far and wide. (With ever-mounting speculation, connections to ideas and claims far less easily verifiable, and numerous misunderstandings and exaggerations as the 'game of telephone' continues on social media.)

    Here's Clayton Morris from Redacted, with a 15 minute feature they published yesterday. The dramatic video title is an illustration of the problem.

    Giza Pyramid Cover-Up EXPOSED: Massive City, Hidden Tunnels and Ancient Tech Beneath the Pyramids!

    I love it

    Clayton talks about how Billy Meier talked at length about visiting this base of operations under the great pyramid and how Meier was told there was a negative ET group called the Giza intelligence and or the Befath. This group has had shop set up there since probably the end of the last ice age.
    These guys are d!cks.
    Think the Gould system lords from the StarGate series.

    Meier stated these guys were like back woods redneck hillbilly aliens. They had antigravity ships but couldn't really produce anymore or really fix the ones they had. But still way more advanced than us especially with mind control which is what they used quite a bit.
    Meier stated that these Befath were kicked off earth back in the early eighties.

    They are probably on Ganymede which was mentioned by Meier as their off world base.
    These were probably the folks in Truman Cash's remembered past life experiences.

    Watching this come out is bad ass and kudos to Clayton for giving the Meier material it's due.


    At 22:40 Billy talks about being taken into the Great pyramid and going 200-300 meters below the surface into a great hall and seeing an old flying saucer there.

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    Default Re: Pyramids' True Purpose Finally Discovered: Advanced Ancient Technology

    Seismic is a method which I have some familiarity with. Props to Michi for bring it up.

    I’ve worked on oilfield drilling rigs, doubles down to 2+km, and triples rated for depths beyond 4km. The energy company that hires the drilling company, has already hired a seismic company to image the subsurface structure.

    I worked in seismic drilling, where we drilled (relatively much smaller) holes and loaded them with an explosive charge, leaving it secured/obvious for the ‘sploders and their listeners. Listening was by microphones wired to a main recorder, run out on foot to wherever they had decided to listen. I can’t remember the name/title of that job of carrying heavy coils, but it never sounded like a great job. I hope by now they use fibre optics, like those FPV drones in Ukraine.

    I’ve read about a seismic technique where explosives are replaced by just thumping the ground with a hydraulic machine. So there’s that intrusive factor fixed.

    If I was the Egypt Antiquities Authority, I’d get $$$ome credible seismic crews on it, to keep on top of this story.

    BTW, has this story gotten any coverage by reputable reporters? Scientists’ preprints? All I see is swaggering chans swallowing the bait.


    John Khules, what do you really think about this-all? This thread is your baby, and you just keep posting puff pieces and not saying your mind.


    Edit: emphasis mine, in Michi’s copied post following.

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    • Something "BIBLICAL?" Was Just Discovered Under the Giza Pyramids!!!:


    LiDAR can't be used for deep earth cartography because laser gets easily diffused and reflected. It's typical use is for cartography of caves and tunnels.


    A proper alternative method is Electrical Resistivity Tomography (ERT), but also limited to 500 meters and Seismic (~6,400 m)


    But hey - perhaps there is a secret tech that can do that, using satellites?
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    Quote Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
    Seismic is a method which I have some familiarity with. Props to Michi for bring it up.

    I’ve worked on oilfield drilling rigs, doubles down to 2+km, and triples rated for depths beyond 4km. The energy company that hires the drilling company, has already hired a seismic company to image the subsurface structure.
    Both
    • your work with seismic imaging the subsurface structure for oilfield drilling, and
    • this new work on the pyramids using Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) Doppler Tomography to analyze the internal structure of the Pyramid of Giza by means of satellite SAR tomography using a new method based on vibrations (phonons) instead of photon information,
    use "sound", not "light" to "see" through solid materials.

    Folks that observe that LIDAR (light radar) or SAR (w/o the "Doppler" enhancement) can't "see" much below ground may be right to that extent, but are missing the point. We can "see" (or should I say "hear") below ground and past dense materials, using material vibrations, aka sound, aka phonons, followed by a bunch of computer work, to (Fourier) transform the sensory data into 3D image data.

    That seismic work paid for a good part of my salary back in the 1990's, as the computers and workstations that my employer Silicon Graphics (SGI) sold were quite popular with the oil drillers.
    My quite dormant website: pauljackson.us

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    Q: is the ground directly under the pyramids a composite refill or is it virgin bedrock ?

    Answer: The ground under the pyramids is mostly virgin bedrock with some composite refill to level the land.

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    This looks pretty good.
    We need more data from competing researchers with access to creating the same ground penetrating radar technology.
    But that being said this technology has been proven effective in mapping areas at similar depths.

    I think it looks promising that this is legitimate.
    Real.
    And even if declared some fakery is a foot don't give in to reactionary fake news used to obfuscate and confuse.
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    Quote Posted by DNA (here)


    This looks pretty good.
    We need more data from competing researchers with access to creating the same ground penetrating radar technology.
    But that being said this technology has been proven effective in mapping areas at similar depths.

    I think it looks promising that this is legitimate.
    Real.
    And even if declared some fakery is a foot don't give in to reactionary fake news used to obfuscate and confuse.
    Thank you John, ExomatrixTV. I may be wrong but to me this sounds like the very first post you have actually made on this subject from your own understanding and perspective. You’re such a great thinker but show it by being a great finder of other people’s stuff, but it’s very rare indeed that you actually post your own thoughts. I appreciate this much more than your finding skills, others may disagree.

    Thank you for your actual own thoughts on this. They resonate much more than I can express. This story to my mind is all about the interpretation of the signal to noise ratio. You putting your thoughts rather than others gives me much more signal and much less noise, thank you.

    Right now the web is awash and a flood of the same videos and the same excitement or scepticism, with very little discernment and very little independent thought.

    For me, that is exactly what this forum is all about. Discernment and independent thought. Otherwise why not just ask any good search engine or any old lag at your local watering hole or any old or new A.I. for that matter.

    Thank you John for your input. Please understand the well thought through, but unintentional and well meaning disrespect of the subtext of my post, as only an experienced and well versed human could, such as yourself and other members and please, please keep it up. Like your last post, as yourself…….x….. N




    Lol. Ps. Edit.

    Pa……so much for my observation skills and discernment.

    Just noticed this wasn’t from John aka ExomatrixTV at all. But from the one and only and great DNA, who always is true to his own thoughts and ideas. The sentiment remains for John but my deepest apologies to DNA who never fails, ever, to say it exactly how he feels, warts and all.

    My mistake, this is another lesson to myself that I truly know nothing. Everyone carry on being yourselves and ignore me….x…..N
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    • Scientists Just Uncovered Something Else Beneath The Pyramid, And It Just Got Crazier:
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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