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    Quote Posted by Richter (here)
    I absolutely do not understand how anybody can support the AFD.

    imo all the mainstream political parties in Germany - and the Netherlands - are part of the WEF doctrine, but that doesn't mean that a party like AFD should be looked at as a respectable alternative.

    They are a righter than right wing party with very dubious ideas about the way a civilized society should function.
    In the end u can not change the system within the system, it doesnt realy matter what germans vote for to be honest. Germany is a pawn state since the end of the WW2 and not a souverain country, not sure about Musks true motive for that interview, but it was funny to see the scared mass media in germany, they are not used to let people speak that arent under their paycheck.
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    Default Re: Alternative for Germany (AfD)

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    Quote Posted by Richter (here)
    I absolutely do not understand how anybody can support the AFD.

    imo all the mainstream political parties in Germany - and the Netherlands - are part of the WEF doctrine, but that doesn't mean that a party like AFD should be looked at as a respectable alternative.

    They are a righter than right wing party with very dubious ideas about the way a civilized society should function.
    In the end u can not change the system within the system, it doesnt realy matter what germans vote for to be honest. Germany is a pawn state since the end of the WW2 and not a souverain country, not sure about Musks true motive for that interview, but it was funny to see the scared mass media in germany, they are not used to let people speak that arent under their paycheck.
    I am also skeptical about them. I share some of their views such as on immigration and Ukraine, but that does not make them sacrosanct for me. Btw, also the other 'new' party, the far-left BSW party also has the same views and gains momentum.

    Moreover, if the AfD really would gain the power (by a coalition but it's still unlikely despite their rising poll numbers) we have the usual problem of jumping on the bandwaggon of power. Weidel as a chancellor would certainly get immediately some 'unfriendly calls' from Washington and then be 'rectified' in many ways. So not too much changes, certainly no end of the 'endless wars' or other miracles.
    However, people here have enough of the mass immigration and the problems it causes and (just like Trump for the US border situation) it "could" at least have a slightly positive impact as a move in the right direction on that issue in the long run.
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    A 20-minute update from The Duran. AfD is gathering momentum every day. All the opinion polls say they are over 20% (maybe as much as 24%), and Alice Weidel is coming over as intelligent, dynamic and charismatic. Alexander Mercouris describes the German political class as in a state of 'hysteria'.

    Germany elections: momentum with AfD and Alice Weidel

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    Reported on Infowars:

    AfD Soars to 23% in Aftermath of Aschaffenburg Attack

    The Alternative for Germany (AfD) has jumped a massive four points and hit 23 percent following the Aschaffenburg attack, which saw yet another foreigner go on a murder spree, this time resulting in the murder of a 2-year-old child and a 41-year-old man.

    The new poll, from YouGov, shows not only the AfD soaring higher, but also the two main left-liberal parties, the Social Democrats and Greens, dropping by a huge margin. The SPD lost four points to fall to 15 percent while the Greens dropped two points to 13 percent.

    Notably, following the attack in Aschaffenburg, the Greens actually called to accelerate immigration by liberalizing family reunification laws. They also rejected calls to secure the border.

    https://x.com/RMXnews/status/1884553857700671554

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    The Leftists are good in mobilising their foot soldiers for the streets in mass rallies against the AFD and now even the CDU who wants to work with them in the future (it seems).
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    Germany will have a really bumpy road ahead:

    According to recent surveys done amongst German citizen who will vote for what party the result (surprise) is that beside the CSU/CDU the next highest percentages are the AFD which is labelled as the black sheep and extreme right wing party.

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    Now just today in a discussion of most party leaders, while the AFD party leader Alice Weidel welcomes a coalition, the CSU/CDU party leader, Friedrich Merz (former Black Rock Germany Chairman of the Supervisory board) clearly refuses a coalition with the AFD, stating his main motive is to sustain and support the EU.

    (Just prior to this, Alice Weidel explained to a young lady who questioned some EU related points, that the problem with the EU legislative is that it isn't selected by the people and laws made by the EU are 90% of the time without any consent of the people of it's countries.)

    Thus - it is very likely, that after this election in 10 days, a new election will be demanded which in turn will probably result again in a coalition refusal and here we go again: Re-elections.

    And while in the USA a big clean-up is happening, I wonder, when this will happen in Germany ...
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    Vice President JD Vance speech at the Munich Security Conference concerning the problematic internal democratic values in EU and Germany addressing the "firewalling" of other parties:

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    Reported on Infowars today:
    Vance Meets Leader of ‘Firewalled’ AfD Party in Germany

    US Vice President J.D. Vance met with Alice Weidel, the leader of Germany’s ‘firewalled’ Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, on Friday. Vance was in the country to attend the annual Munich Security Conference.

    Their meeting reportedly lasted about half an hour and focused on the Ukraine conflict, German domestic policies, and freedom of speech, including the so-called ‘Brandmauer’, or “firewall against the right.” The term refers to a stance embraced by mainstream German parties that aims to prevent the right-wing powers from joining ruling coalitions in the country.

    News of the meeting came after Vance slammed European politicians for “fearing” their own voters by refusing to engage with right-wing parties in a speech on Friday. While he did not mention the AfD directly, he said European governments should drop “firewalls” and “embrace” public opinion or lose the right to be called democratic.

    Vance referred to the recent endorsement of Weidel for German chancellor by Elon Musk, a close ally to US President Donald Trump, whose online presence at an AfD rally in Halle last month resulted in accusations of election interference from the German government. The vice president dismissed the allegations, painting Musk’s endorsement as an example of free speech, a core democratic value. He chided the European establishment for criticizing Musk, and said he feared free speech was “in retreat” across the continent.

    The AfD denies being far-right, insisting that it promotes the interests of the German people with its anti-immigration stance. It has, however, been put under surveillance for suspected extremism by German intelligence. Despite the allegations, public support for the party has been growing, and it is currently polling in second place ahead of the German parliamentary election on February 23, with 21% of the public saying they support it.

    Weidel did not comment on her meeting with Vance, but praised his remarks in Munich in a post on X, saying they were “excellent” and applauding his comment regarding firewalls.

    According to Reuters, citing Vance’s office, he met with leaders of all of Germany’s major political parties while in Munich, including Friedrich Merz, the head of the center-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU), which is currently leading in the polls. After meeting with Vance, Merz said in a post on X that he and the vice president “reaffirmed the special importance of transatlantic relations.” However, he later described Vance’s speech in Munich as “little short of interference.”

    Other German politicians have also criticized Vance for his remarks targeting their policies, with incumbent Chancellor Olaf Scholz posting on X that “the extreme right should be out of political decision-making processes” in Germany and stating that Vance had no right to give the country advice on the issue.
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    General Elections result is good for the AfD

    https://www.rt.com/news/613190-exit-...e-german-elex/

    Anti-immigration AFD in 2nd place in German elections – exit poll
    According to state broadcaster ARD, the right-wing party is predicted to secure 19.5% of the vote, with the Christian-Democrats coming out on top with 29%

    I am currently watching it on an alternative news channel and the prognosis is now even over 20% (CDU down to 28% now).

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    Trump on Truth Social (not sure if he means only AfD with "Conservative Party" or the winning Christian Democrats or maybe both):

    "LOOKS LIKE THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY IN GERMANY HAS WON THE VERY BIG AND HIGHLY ANTICIPATED ELECTION. MUCH LIKE THE USA, THE PEOPLE OF GERMANY GOT TIRED OF THE NO COMMON SENSE AGENDA, ESPECIALLY ON ENERGY AND IMMIGRATION, THAT HAS PREVAILED FOR SO MANY YEARS. THIS IS A GREAT DAY FOR GERMANY, AND FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF A GENTLEMAN NAMED DONALD J. TRUMP. CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL — MANY MORE VICTORIES TO FOLLOW!!!"

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    🇩🇪The conservative CDU/CSU bloc wins the early Bundestag elections, according to an exit poll. The Alternative for Germany is in second place for the first time in history.

    Scholz's party suffered a setback in the snap Bundestag elections, finishing only third, according to exit poll data.

    Turnout in the German Bundestag elections was a record 83%, ZDF reports.

    🇩🇪Olaf Scholz admitted defeat in the elections, calling the result bitter for the Social Democrats

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    This is basically East and West Germany from decades ago. Extraordinary map.


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    Default Re: Alternative for Germany (AfD)

    Text:
    GERMANY - The Globalists win again.

    New chancellor Friedrich Merz is their perfect pick.

    ▪️Ex Chairman of Blackrock Germany
    ▪️Dedicated to deeper EU integration
    ▪️member of the WEF’s Board of Trustees
    ▪️ regular atendee WEF in Davos
    ▪️attended Bilderberg Group meetings
    ▪️supported Covid vaccine passports
    ▪️Wanted restrictions on unvaccinated
    ▪️advocated for digital ID in Germany
    ▪️supported EU-wide asylum policies
    ▪️supports carbon trading markets

    The penetration of the cabinets continues. You cannot help the people if the people will not help themselves.

    Good luck Germany.

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    Well you get what you vote for Germany! Hard to belive that the majority would vote a party with a blackrock guy at the top. So glad i left that country many years ago, its not looking any good for europe.
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    A fascinating map showing how Germany is now divided into East and West — again.



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    • Cops in Germany Are Raiding People's Homes for Insulting Politicians:

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    • The Truth About The German 🇩🇪 Election:
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    AfD Success Divides Germany Into East and West yesterday

    The Alternative for Germany (AfD) party has secured second place in the country's snap election, exposing deep national polarization, German political analyst Dr. Gregor Spitzen told Sputnik.

    "Voting for the AfD is a form of political protest. A loud 'no' to the systemic political parties that have opened the door to terrorists in Germany and led the country into recession and deindustrialization," Spitzen said.

    The divide is also geographical, with Eastern Germany (the former GDR) showing strong support for the Euroskeptic party.
    Spitzen attributed this to East Germans’ strong sense of national identity and critical thinking —qualities he believes are nearly lost in the West.

    "Over the next four years, the East-West divide in Germany will only grow. This is illustrated by the AfD's phenomenal result in Saxony, where it won 46 percent - more than all the other parties combined," Spitzen predicted.

    Furthermore, he did not rule out the possibility of an AfD victory in the next parliamentary election, especially if US President Donald Trump and his ally, billionaire Elon Musk, continue to support the party.

    AfD may be even closer to victory than expected, given that a last-minute Democracy Institute poll ranked AfD Co-Chair Alice Weidel as the top choice for chancellor among likely German voters.

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    In a current country-wide poll the AFD rising to 24% has now almost caught up with the CDU at 25/26%.
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