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    The ammount of blatant insider trading and market manipulation is off the charts.

    I wish many of those who were so swift to blame Pelosi and the Biden admin, were half as quick to see and condemn it now. (And its not like I'm justifying any of them, this is not a matter of sides)

    Since Trump arrived, hypernormalisation is king.

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    Warren Buffett himself declares tariffs to be an act of war…


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    I DO NOT understand US... their president is allowed to financially benefit by the decisions he makes.... a lot of people would say... Thanks Maga...
    I think the pendulum will swing the other way at midterms... and way too much bluffing going on with trump... Trump & Co benefited! Period!

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    The latest Duran... nothing good said about Trump from both of them... as I understood...
    Trump wanted respect... admiration... is he giving away to someone????
    What are you putting out... you are getting back... Boomerang rules!

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    Text:🇺🇸🔥🇺🇸Trump just again raised tariffs on Chinese products to 145%

    What will be the effect on the crippling American economy?

    For reference, China produces [according to media reports]:

    1. Apple = 90% of products
    2. Ford Motor Company = up to 50% of components
    3. Tesla 50% of cars, 100% of batteries
    4. Walmart 70-80% of goods
    5. Qualcomm 66% of revenue comes from China
    6. Micron Technology 57% of revenue comes from China
    8. Nike = 30% of goods
    9. General Motors = 70% of components
    10. Coca-Cola packaging, ingredients + sales. Of the $45 billion in revenue, China accounts for $11 billion

    https://x.com/Hawkeye1745/status/1910404924539912596




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    Interesting... Elon everywhere is now Elon nowhere now....
    In my opinion... every single one of these appointees are beyond stupid.... and painful to watch....
    Specially press sec fake barbie... "boys staying boys for sure"....
    We around the world... are unbelievable ungrateful for this entire administration .. the delusion continues...

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    All this negativity is like taking the remote away from the kids because they are going nuts from the crap they are watching.


    As for Trump's rich friends, Americans used to live high on the hog of being the globalist's useful goon squad for their global surgery. Now they are surplus to requirements and facing their own genocide, accordingly. I don't blame them for being more concerned about that pending/ongoing genocide than they are about anything else right now, including the genocide in other parts of the world that needs America to catalyze a turnaround.

    What's the difference between genocide and suicide ?

    Genocide doesn't include going on line and cheering for the murders.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Despite the video title, the first 42 minutes of Alexander Mercouris' update today are all about this. (Besides being a historian, classics scholar, lawyer and experienced geopolitical analyst, he also understands a very great deal about economics.)

    He predicts:
    • Great turbulence in global trade and global finance.
    • Rising inflation both the in US and worldwide.
    • The end of globalization.
    • The beginning of the end of the EU.
    • ... And Russia, China and the BRICS nations will survive all this just fine.
    His one-sentence summary: It's an admission of American decline.

    Yes i felt it was a move in order to crash economy and bring financial problems to population, limit the amount of types and kinds of products the American would have access to, push up the Economical Reset agenda ( trump for me is 100% part of the c4bal).

    This will domino reflect to others countries to but not all equally.

    The agenda is to create more poverty, scarcity, limit the presence of products (there are all kinds of good stuff that people can use that comes from different countries), then the prices rise and people don't have enough money to buy organic food, natural treatments, and good stuff that requires money and are necessary for good health and so on, it's a cascade of things.

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    Quote Posted by bojancan (here)
    Interesting... Elon everywhere is now Elon nowhere now....
    In my opinion... every single one of these appointees are beyond stupid.... and painful to watch....
    Specially press sec fake barbie... "boys staying boys for sure"....
    We around the world... are unbelievable ungrateful for this entire administration .. the delusion continues...

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    Elon was at the cabinet meeting. This guy got it wrong.

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    One guy is seeing that April 2nd - Trump's "Liberation Day" may have more significance than anybody realizes. It could indicate the return of the Republic of America, and the law of the land, as opposed to the last 100 years where we had the law of the sea:

    https://vimeo.com/1074152432

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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
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    Trump just again raised tariffs on Chinese products to 145%

    What will be the effect on the crippling American economy?

    For reference, China produces [according to media reports]:

    1. Apple = 90% of products
    2. Ford Motor Company = up to 50% of components
    3. Tesla 50% of cars, 100% of batteries
    4. Walmart 70-80% of goods
    5. Qualcomm 66% of revenue comes from China
    6. Micron Technology 57% of revenue comes from China
    8. Nike = 30% of goods
    9. General Motors = 70% of components
    10. Coca-Cola packaging, ingredients + sales. Of the $45 billion in revenue, China accounts for $11 billion

    https://x.com/Hawkeye1745/status/1910404924539912596
    And China has now raised tariffs on US goods to 125%.

    China has well-developed markets for its goods world-wide. Here in Ecuador, I see Chinese cars, motorcycles, trucks and buses everywhere, and almost everything in the hardware stores and clothing in the department stores is Chinese. (Much of it is good quality, too. And the prices are very reasonable.)

    What I see in Ecuador is mirrored in all other Latin American countries, everywhere in Africa, and definitely in rapidly developing countries like Indonesia. US journalists visiting Russia report that half the new cars there are Chinese. It's hard to imagine that China will have much problem selling as much of their goods as they want or need to to everyone else in the world. (That's a LOT of customers!)

    If the US magically ceased to exist and just completely disappeared from the planet, China, Russia and India would flourish perfectly fine, even if they only traded with one another. Between them they have all the technology, energy and resources that they need.

    I posted a few days ago that I didn't 'see' this ending well. While global markets may be disrupted everywhere, I think that what I was somehow sensing was that it'd not end well principally for the US.


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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
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    Trump just again raised tariffs on Chinese products to 145%

    What will be the effect on the crippling American economy?

    For reference, China produces [according to media reports]:

    1. Apple = 90% of products
    2. Ford Motor Company = up to 50% of components
    3. Tesla 50% of cars, 100% of batteries
    4. Walmart 70-80% of goods
    5. Qualcomm 66% of revenue comes from China
    6. Micron Technology 57% of revenue comes from China
    8. Nike = 30% of goods
    9. General Motors = 70% of components
    10. Coca-Cola packaging, ingredients + sales. Of the $45 billion in revenue, China accounts for $11 billion

    https://x.com/Hawkeye1745/status/1910404924539912596
    And China has now raised tariffs on US goods to 125%.

    China has well-developed markets for its goods world-wide. Here in Ecuador, I see Chinese cars, motorcycles, trucks and buses everywhere, and almost everything in the hardware stores and clothing in the department stores is Chinese. (Much of it is good quality, too. And the prices are very reasonable.)

    What I see in Ecuador is mirrored in all other Latin American countries, everywhere in Africa, and definitely in rapidly developing countries like Indonesia. US journalists visiting Russia report that half the new cars there are Chinese. It's hard to imagine that China will have much problem selling as much of their goods as they want or need to to everyone else in the world. (That's a LOT of customers!)

    If the US magically ceased to exist and just completely disappeared from the planet, China, Russia and India would flourish perfectly fine, even if they only traded with one another. Between them they have all the technology, energy and resources that they need.

    I posted a few days ago that I didn't 'see' this ending well. While global markets may be disrupted everywhere, I think that what I was somehow sensing was that it'd not end well principally for the US.

    I think Trump will have to creatively squirm his way out of this and some how backtrack this China Tariff ordeal in a way to save face and make it look like he came out on top. The longer he waits the more difficult it'll be not to get the black eye and pie in the face effect from it.

    His team is probably working on a back off plan now.
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    Wade Frazier has joined the discussioj, posted on his thread just a few minutes ago.

    ~~~
    From Substack:

    Donald’s Trump’s tariffs are roiling the global economy, and I have read all manner of commentary on it. It is time to weigh in on it a little. For starters, even though the USA rarely admits it, it is an empire, and even George Washington had imperial aspirations. Empires are empires because they can exploit their imperial subjects. The earliest civilizations conquered their neighbors as soon as they could, and civilizations have seen rising and falling empires ever since. No organism likes being coerced, so empires always have restive populations that try to throw off imperial rule. Trade predates humanity, but there has never really been free trade or free markets, as coercion always rears its head somewhere along the line, in our world of scarcity and fear.

    During Europe’s conquest of the world, setting the terms of exchange to milk their imperial subjects was standard practice, from the Spanish in Mesoamerica to the British in India. After the USA stole North America, it began acquiring distant lands, such as Hawaii and the Philippines, and it had long considered Latin America to be its imperial backyard, although the rise of neocolonialism meant that the USA’s flag would not fly over its subjects. It was cheaper that way and had better optics. As part of the deal for American help against the Nazis, Franklin Roosevelt demanded that the British relinquish their empire when the war was over. In practice, the USA largely just became the new imperial overlords, overthrowing disfavored governments with abandon. When JFK proved to be a lukewarm imperialist who tried to end the Cold War, he had to go.

    Agrarian economies cannot compete with industrial ones, and the USA enacted tariffs from the beginning to protect its fledgling industries, especially from the industrialized British. That is essentially what tariffs are for. The USA reached Peak Oil in 1970, its standard of living has declined ever since, and some of it has been spectacular. Humanity will always rise and fall on the energy issue, just like all life does.

    In the logic of capitalism, in which profits are everything, corporate America began exporting its industrial capacity to poor nations to take advantage of cheap labor, which threw blue-collar Americans out of work, especially in what is called the Rust Belt, where I lived for several years. The USA gets cheap imports out of the deal, which has helped prop up the USA’s standard of living, and most of the so-called service industry is intrinsically worthless, pushing papers across desks and like, such as my original profession of auditing. About 75% or more (arguably even 90%) of what the USA spends on medicine is worthless, as the medical racket preys on an addicted public. We’ll see what kind of dent RFK, Jr., can make, but the medical racket won’t go quietly.

    It is reasonably speculated that Trump’s ultimate goal is building a North American technocracy, and Canada and Greenland would be key aspects of that, which is likely why Trump wants them. For all of Trump’s lies and bluster, there is a logic behind what he is doing. Strangely enough, parts of it align with my idea of the Fifth Epoch. For instance, Trump wants production to come back to the USA, but those blue-collar days are gone forever. The new factories that Trump wants will be run by AI-driven robots, as Elon Musk is trying to achieve at Tesla. But the energy issue needs to be solved, first. Mining more hydrocarbons and nuclear fission are not the way to go, and windmill and solar systems are not nearly enough for all of humanity. Every Epoch of the human journey was based on an energy revolution, and so will the next one.

    But I also know that Trump is only a bit player in the global economy. Far higher powers than the American president run the world. Elon Musk may be the world’s richest man on paper, but he is also far down the pecking order.

    Michael Roads died last year, and I am reading his final book. I met Michael about 30 years ago and have known many psychonauts like him. His account of his visits to two Earths, 300 years into our future, is legendary. One was hellish and one was heavenly, and the difference was whether people chose love or not. In a chapter of his final book, he visited the forests of Gondwana, other heavenly future Earths, and he also saw today’s influence of what I call the Global Controllers, who pull the strings on Earth. They are trying to own the entire planet and enslave all of humanity. In an eerie parallel to my work, Roads said that the 1% exploit the 99%. I have long called these “conspiratorial” situations 1% conspiracy and 99% complicity. Blaming that 1% is giving away our power. It is the 99% complicity that we can most do something about.

    I have also likened most of humanity to spiritual kindergarteners as they sleepwalk through their lives, only caring about the welfare of their in-groups, filing to their deaths, cheering the violence, etc. In that chapter, Roads said the same thing, that Earth was a kindergarten for younger souls. They are not lesser beings, just younger, and Earth is where they came to be potty-trained as souls. I have seen this theme for many years, and have even been told it by channels. A slippery slope is judging that. We are all on our divine journeys, and this lifetime might be more of my soul’s penance, as I try to get it right this time. Roads even mentioned the Gaza situation, of fighting over land, and that book was published before the current genocide there.

    The human journey has been a grim one, but it has become less violent and more humane over the Epochs, even if humanity has largely sleepwalked through the process. I do not expect humanity to become enlightened overnight if and when the Fifth Epoch arrives, but when scarcity is permanently banished, for all people, this world will end and nobody will miss it. Coercion, violence, crime, and wrecking the environment in the pursuit of self-interest will no longer make any sense. The global elite will be supremely disappointed at first, but even they will eventually be redeemed, as all roads lead home to the godhead. Some paths just take longer and have more adventures.

    I see Trump’s plans and actions as nationalistic and still about American imperial dominance, but there are some strangely positive aspects of it, as if he and his handlers dimly see what might be ahead, and perhaps on behalf of the people who really run the world. What times to live in, but I am not going to cede humanity’s future to what the USA, Trump, Musk, or the global elite do. We live here, too, and only an approach rooted in love and enlightenment has a chance to turn the course, in my opinion, which is what I am trying to get going, and my Substack presence is my latest experiment.

    Best,

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    A large percentage of ingredients in vitamin supplements and pharmaceuticals also come from China, which is quite disturbing when you consider how very unsanitary and polluted conditions are there.
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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    Text:
    Trump just again raised tariffs on Chinese products to 145%
    What will be the effect on the crippling American economy?
    For reference, China produces [according to media reports]:
    1. Apple = 90% of products
    2. Ford Motor Company = up to 50% of components
    3. Tesla 50% of cars, 100% of batteries
    4. Walmart 70-80% of goods
    5. Qualcomm 66% of revenue comes from China
    6. Micron Technology 57% of revenue comes from China
    8. Nike = 30% of goods
    9. General Motors = 70% of components
    10. Coca-Cola packaging, ingredients + sales. Of the $45 billion in revenue, China accounts for $11 billion
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    And China has now raised tariffs on US goods to 125%.

    China has well-developed markets for its goods world-wide. Here in Ecuador, I see Chinese cars, motorcycles, trucks and buses everywhere, and almost everything in the hardware stores and clothing in the department stores is Chinese. (Much of it is good quality, too. And the prices are very reasonable.)
    It is the same presence in Spain and France (and all around europe). When all this started I thought that it was the end of the US because despite the huge blow, China needs the US less than the US (or preety much anyone else in the world) needs China.

    Still, and for some reason, in Spain, and I presume the rest of Europe, local chinese conglomerates (we could even call them mafias) that take care of the mass importing of goods and spreading them through different shops and bazars, are actually closing, and leaving the country and probably the continent.

    Is it because of restrictions, currency crash, war...? I have no idea, but the hole in the availability of goods that this will leave if it keeps going forward in a wider scale... worldchanging.

    They are blaming the closures on online shopping, but that was never an issue before, despite Spain being the #1 Aliexpress shopping country per capita, or during the pandemic.
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    A very general comment here that may (or may not!) contribute anything at all.

    Gene Hacknan's character to Will Smith's character in the inspired (and prescient!) movie Enemy of the State:
    You're either VERY smart, or INCREDIBLY stupid.
    Here's Alex Krainer talking to Larry Johnson, posted a few hours ago:
    I'm torn between thinking these guys are really smart and sophisticated and they thought things through, or these people are completely dumb and they're making it up as they go along.
    I'm not offering a personal opinion here. But it's fascinating to see that many of the social media analysts are saying the exact same thing: it's either genius or madness, but it can't be both.

    And quite a few of the most bullish Trump supporters are of the opinion that Trump is taking a huge gamble, whatever his intentions or how much he really understands. Many are growing concerned.

    I posted a few days ago that when a complex system is disrupted, it's not possible to predict the exact outcome. It's not a simple, linear, cause-and-effect process. What one gets are emergent properties.

    One might be able to guess what some of them could be, but the details can NOT be known for sure. Whether or not one should ever poke such a big stick into the spokes of the spinning global financial wheel seems like quite a good question.

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    I do not understand... why those Trump's "ministers" are so hateful... full of "revenge" and rage...... warmongers ... it's completely the same style of behaviour as their fürer... Trump... president of Peace! Ja?????

    We saw last night... how much money they gave for Pentagon, gave to billionaires ...
    Here in this video... these chinese presenters are the breath of fresh air... rational minds.. normal people! US is crazy!!!! REALYY!

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    Quote Posted by bojancan (here)
    I do not understand... why those Trump's "ministers" are so hateful... full of "revenge" and rage...... warmongers ... it's completely the same style of behaviour as their fürer... Trump... president of Peace! Ja?????

    We saw last night... how much money they gave for Pentagon, gave to billionaires ...
    Here in this video... these chinese presenters are the breath of fresh air... rational minds.. normal people! US is crazy!!!! REALYY!

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    America NOT PREPARED: U.S. Military FEARS China's Shocking New Power w/ Carl Zha & KJ Noh
    This is complete enemy bull**** and this is another thread about to go down the tubes.

    Bojancan, I'm calling you out as an enemy combatant.
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    I do not understand... why those Trump's "ministers" are so hateful... full of "revenge" and rage...... warmongers ... it's completely the same style of behaviour as their fürer... Trump... president of Peace! Ja?????

    We saw last night... how much money they gave for Pentagon, gave to billionaires ...
    Here in this video... these chinese presenters are the breath of fresh air... rational minds.. normal people! US is crazy!!!! REALYY!

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    America NOT PREPARED: U.S. Military FEARS China's Shocking New Power w/ Carl Zha & KJ Noh
    This is complete enemy bull**** and this is another thread about to go down the tubes.

    Bojancan, I'm calling you out as an enemy combatant.
    With all due respect to you Norman... For these words you should apologize to myself... yes... but I am giving just a few words back to you: You are very brainwashed Trumpster! As Flash rightly said it: You are attacking each personalities here...
    All of members here are not in sync with you... ALWAYS! Some of them.. EVER!
    And you also didn't ate all knowledge along... while you are on this world... Enough said!

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    https://x.com/ChineseEmbinUS/status/1910720427531329755



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    Any dialogue must be based on equality, respect and mutual benefit.

    If the U.S. truly wants to have talks, it should stop its capricious and destructive behavior.

    For the welfare of the Chinese and the people of the world, for the fairness and justice of the global order, China will never bow to maximum pressure of the United States.

    Give the bully an inch, he will take a mile.

    https://x.com/MFA_China/status/1910677700047667697

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    BREAKING: Spain’s PM just met with President Xi Jinping in Beijing and they made a trade agreement to open China to Spanish products and vice versa, with Spain rejecting US threats about “cutting your own throat” if they negotiated with China.

    “It's China's and EU's responsibility to safeguard international justice and fairness,” said Xi, who urged the EU to work with China on resisting American tariffs.

    “We're working to open the Chinese market to Spanish products.” — Spanish PM Pedro Sanchez

    The two countries signed agreements on science, technology, education and the film industry, as well as protocols regarding pork and cherry exports.

    China will broaden its work with the EU through advanced technology and high tech manufacturing like batteries, electric vehicles and hydrogen, which the EU is not good at.

    https://x.com/stillgray/status/1910669918057431545



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    🇨🇳🇪🇸 President Xi Jinping met with Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez during his visit to China.

    Xi emphasized that there are no winners in tariff wars and warned that unilateralism leads to self-isolation. He highlighted China’s rise through self-reliance and resilience, stressing that the country won’t yield to external pressure. Xi called on China and the EU to uphold global trade, oppose bullying, and defend international fairness and order.

    https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1910636792807571464

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