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    I went to the euro site. They don't mention self medication anywhere in their blurb. That's understandable but it leaves me in the dark about how to use it.

    As it reads, it doesn't seem to need acid activation. If it's a gas I don't understand how they make it into a white powder.

    Do I seem confused ?
    Hey Norman, that works for me is to divide the liter/quart by five, add one part to a dropper bottle or other container and add one tablet. It can be used for health issues the same way you would use the the kind you are familiar with.

    To make the 'old kind' they use the dry form of the two ingredients and mix them with water.

    This is both ingredients combined in the tablet, they only activate when added to water. I use 5 tablets in the liter/quart spray bottle.

    I had a flood in the house a couple of weeks ago. I was very happy to have this to spray everywhere it flooded to keep mold away. I read years ago it is used in flooded buildings, meat packing plants and butcher shops, hospitals and more.

    I like using the tablet form because it lasts much longer. In the past the mixed solution stored even in the refrigerator will break down to saltwater if left for too long a time.

    Hope this helps!
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    Default Re: Jim Humble/MMS update

    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    I went to the euro site. They don't mention self medication anywhere in their blurb. That's understandable but it leaves me in the dark about how to use it.

    As it reads, it doesn't seem to need acid activation. If it's a gas I don't understand how they make it into a white powder.

    Do I seem confused ?
    Looking at their site, one of the pages shows both front and back of one of their packages, and on the back it listed ingredients as "sodium chlorite, activator, stabilizer".
    • The "sodium chlorite" is the powder that can be used to make MMS, by dissolving it in water.
    • The "activator" would be a mild acid powder, which dissolves in water.
    • The "stabilizer" would be something that holds the above two powders together in a solid pill form, but that dissolves in water into something that doesn't react chemically.
    From the mixture ratios I saw there for one usage, if my back of the envelope calculations were about right, then one tablet in one ounce of water should yield about one ounce of 3,000 PPM (parts per million) chlorine dioxide solution (CDS), which you could use by the various CDS protocols available, such as in Andreas Kalcker's wonderful book "Forbidden Health".

    To answer your original question directly, the acidification happens when you dissolve the tablet in water ... for the acid, as a water soluble powder, is already in the tablet, along with the sodium chlorite. The end result, chlorine dioxide gas in solution in water, is not in the original tablet as a gas. Rather it's the chemical reaction of two powders, sodium chlorite and some acidic powder, when dissolved together in water, that produces the chlorine dioxide gas, also dissolved in the water.
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    Default Re: Jim Humble/MMS update

    Now I've discovered my backup liquid MMS kit is decomposing, as Franny told me it would, I just tried to make an order at the France safrax site and ran into a payment process/verification brick wall. The problem isn't with safrax it's with my bank and it's security protocol that requires that they send a temporary verification code to my "phone". The only phone I have is a landline. I tried that number. The phone didn't ring so I didn't get the verification number and couldn't complete the process.

    FAIL.

    Now I'm in a bit of a panic because I thought I had plenty of MMS and now I know I need a replacement stock fast.

    Can someone suggest a source that doesn't involve all that bloody infuriating cyber and smart phone bullsht. Ebay was my saving grace last time but ebay booted the seller I got it from and I haven't found an alternative there since.
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    Default Re: Jim Humble/MMS update

    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Now I've discovered my backup liquid MMS kit is decomposing, as Franny told me it would, I just tried to make an order at the France safrax site and ran into a payment process/verification brick wall. The problem isn't with safrax it's with my bank and it's security protocol that requires that they send a temporary verification code to my "phone". The only phone I have is a landline. I tried that number. The phone didn't ring so I didn't get the verification number and couldn't complete the process.

    FAIL.

    Now I'm in a bit of a panic because I thought I had plenty of MMS and now I know I need a replacement stock fast.

    Can someone suggest a source that doesn't involve all that bloody infuriating cyber and smart phone bullsht. Ebay was my saving grace last time but ebay booted the seller I got it from and I haven't found an alternative there since.
    The companies for several of my purchases since 2018 on Amazon and elsewhere are no longer available. I’m still using the drops I got about 3-4 years ago from another site that now reports “can’t find server”. If there’s evaporation, it’s slow.

    The last time I replenished my MMS stash was in October and November, 2023. I keep them in the refrigerator. I wasn’t aware that it decomposes. So I check those back ups and sure enough about 15%-20% of each bottle it has evaporated. It’s available @ Amazon or on their Crystal Clear Lab site.

    Another suggestion is How to Make MMS.


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    Default Re: Jim Humble/MMS update

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    I wasn’t aware that it decomposes.
    Me neither. I may have missed something here... how and why does it 'decompose'? (It's a mineral, not anything organic, so I'm a little puzzled.)

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    I wasn’t aware that it decomposes.
    Me neither. I may have missed something here... how and why does it 'decompose'? (It's a mineral, not anything organic, so I'm a little puzzled.)
    Maybe degrade in potency? Though I couldn't say why. My bottles still have the seal on them. They are 4 oz each and my guess is I'd never use them up.

    I purchased extra in case the supply dwindle or got outlawed. The stash is for when family members come around to alternative methods.

    (They've all been jabbed multiple times.)

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    Default Re: Jim Humble/MMS update

    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    Now I'm in a bit of a panic because I thought I had plenty of MMS and now I know I need a replacement stock fast.

    Can someone suggest a source that doesn't involve all that bloody infuriating cyber and smart phone bullsht. Ebay was my saving grace last time but ebay booted the seller I got it from and I haven't found an alternative there since.
    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    The companies for several of my purchases since 2018 on Amazon and elsewhere are no longer available. I’m still using the drops I got about 3-4 years ago from another site that now reports “can’t find server”. If there’s evaporation, it’s slow.

    The last time I replenished my MMS stash was in October and November, 2023. I keep them in the refrigerator. I wasn’t aware that it decomposes. So I check those back ups and sure enough about 15%-20% of each bottle it has evaporated. It’s available @ Amazon or on their Crystal Clear Lab site.

    Another suggestion is How to Make MMS.
    So far as I know, the most stable, and most economical bulk method, of ensuring long term storage and availability of chlorine dioxide is keeping the dry sodium chlorite flakes and some form or other of common acidic powder such as used in making bread.

    It took me a long time to work out a robust method, but now I am confident that I have enough quality chlorine dioxide solution (CDS) supplies stashed in my pantry to meet my needs for the rest of my life.

    I spelled out what I do in a couple of posts, starting at MMS - tasteless and odourless. the new CDS (chlorine dioxide solution) -- Post #93.

    Let me know if any of the Amazon specific product links I provided in the above post no longer work.

    It is really a blessing having a couple of 500 ml glass jars of CDS always on hand in my refrigerator, and having a pleasantly easy method of replenishing those jars with another 250 ml or so of more CDS, anytime either jar gets down to less than half full.

    Also, if one had a nasty puncture wound (say from a rusty nail) or a snake or spider bite, or a nasty burn, that might benefit from quickly applying plenty of topical CDS, perhaps with DMSO already blended in, it's great having it right there, ready to go, in quantity.

    ==

    However, even sodium chlorite (NaClO2) flakes, the critical ingredient above, are not perfectly stable and not perfectly safe.

    Sodium chlorite flakes will slowly lose potency over the years. They are best stored in a cool environment, say around 65°F (18°C). It should be a dry environment, away from sunlight, in a tightly closed container. Solutions of NaClO2 in water, such as are, or were, sold in the well known convenient pair of little squeezable plastic dropper bottles, are _less_ stable than the dry NaClO2 flakes.

    Also these NaClO2 flakes are nasty in a fire; keep them away from flames and any boys who have just discovered the joys of playing with matches. I avoid storing larger bags of NaClO2, as I've seen some nasty reports of the difficulties of handing a fire of the size and energy that such a quantity of NaClO2 flakes can feed oxygen to. NaClO2 flakes do not burn; rather they provide a rich source of oxygen to any fire that heats them sufficiently. Thus NaClO2 flakes are a potent fire accelerant.


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    I wasn’t aware that it decomposes.
    Me neither. I may have missed something here... how and why does it 'decompose'? (It's a mineral, not anything organic, so I'm a little puzzled.)
    Iron is a mineral too ... which reacts with oxygen and rusts.

    Sodium chlorite is "rusted NaCl salt": NaClO2.

    Sodium chlorite (NaClO2) slowly (or with heat quickly) de-rusts, shedding its oxygen, leaving "common table salt" (NaCl, sodium chloride) behind. It's those two oxygen atoms, still bound with the (negatively charged but chemically neutral) chlorine ion, when making CDS by pulling off the Na sodium atom, that are the key payload that provides the potential benefits of CDS.

    That's why it's called "chlorine dioxide". Each molecule of CDS has one chlorine and two oxygen atoms.

    (So calling "MMS" a "mineral" is a bit of a misnomer. It's a solution of oxidized chlorine.)
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    Let me know if any of the Amazon specific product links I provided in the above post no longer work.
    Thank you, Paul. All the Amazon links work including Ann-Marie Michaels.

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    I watched this yesterday on Brighteon - Mike Adams interviewing Mark Grenon -

    The tale of what Mark Grenon and his sons have been through because of their promotion of Chloride Dioxide Solution (also known as MMS - Miracle Mineral Solution) - and their healing and helping people around the world mostly in deprived areas....well.... I'd LIKE to say it beggars belief what has happened to them - but in these days after Health Organizations and the Pharmaceutical Industry have shown their true colours with the whole Covid + vax debacle - it doesn't really beggar belief - but it's still astonishing and upsetting the depths of depravity the Health Industry and the Department of Justice will go... not just in America but all over the world...


    Two of Mark's sons are still in prison now... and he is hoping that Trump will pardon them - and he wants to contact the new Pardon Czar - Alice Marie Johnson to see if she can help - the sons were stitched up good and proper by a corrupt female judge...and Grenon himself spent a long time in prison... their crime...?..... helping to heal and cure people with a very inexpensive treatment -


    Remember the MSM coming down on Trump like the proverbial TON of bricks when the whole Covid thing was launched and screaming about Trump telling people to drink bleach - and crushing any promotion of Hydroxychloroquine...(then they turned on Ivermectin) they were NOT going to let him move away from their Pandemic/vaccination agenda...

    I don't have time stamps for this interview but here it is... Mark telling his story and Mike expanding on some points...


    Mark Grenon Shares his Experience with Chlorine Dioxide, Challenges and Persecution (54:08)

    Source: https://www.brighteon.com/embed/a8e6da04-1dcc-44f0-af3a-4c4ddf50183a


    Mark Grenon had contact with Jim Humble in the early days ....

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    Another interview with a beautiful brave human being. His whole family are being persecuted by the death cult.

    Quote Mark Grenon a missionary for 47 years and a pilot who's family keeps getting attacked

    Mark Grenon has been a missionary for 47 years and a pilot in Haiti, Dominican Republic, and Colombia. He came across Chlorine Dioxide in 2006 after contracting MRSA and an "incurable" flesh eating bacteria that spread through his family of eight children. After reading a book by Jim Humble called, "Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st century" he cured the "incurable" MRSA infection in 2 weeks!

    After using the Chlorine Dioxide to cure many different illnesses in the Dominican Republic he contacted Jim Humble with the results and Jim came to live with the Grenons in the D.R. in 2010 where they started the Genesis II Church of Health and Healing doing 10-day seminars. At the first seminar 45 people came from 15 countries! In almost 3 years, 19 seminars were held and over 1000 people trained in 80+ countries.

    In 2012 Jim moved to Mexico and Mark and his sons moved to Colombia. From 2010 to 2020, Mark and his sons taught 63 seminars in nineteen countries with many doctors, chemists, scientists, and laypeople trained to be proficient in over 40 protocols of the G2Church. Millions were reached worldwide and by 2020 more than 2000 people were trained in over 135 countries! Mark has written three books called, "Imagine, A World Without DIS-EASE" explaining how there is ONLY one DIS-EASE of the body being the "State of DIS-EASE" the body enters when toxicity is prevalent in the body. Millions have been helped throughout the world by the training that was accomplished. Those that have been trained went on train others! The goal of the Genesis 2 Church was to teach all to practice "Selfcare" and NOT follow the "Healthcare" systems of the world that are nothing more than the maintaining of sickness by the Medical/Pharmaceutical industries with toxins!

    In 2020, when the "premeditated Pandemic" which he calls the "Plandemic" was at its height worldwide, Mark and his sons were kidnapped and held without a trial for 3 years as "political prisoners" in the U.S. and in Colombia. Mark and his son Joseph that were kidnapped in Colombia were released with 3 years of probation, another sentence, in September of 2024. His sons Jonathan and Jordan that were arrested in Florida received another 91 months for "Contempt of Court" are still being held as "political prisoners". Mark and his son’s story need to be told worldwide to expose and held accountable those that committed this "crime against humanity" with severe retribution because of the millions that died worldwide unnecessarily. Mark is now writing his fourth book called, "Stopped from Stopping the 2020 "Plandemic" which should be published in the summer of 2025.

    Please pray for Mark and his family that were only trying to follow the Biblical mandate to "love thy neighbor as thyself". There were NO VICTIMS and NO VIABLE CLAIMS whatsoever which is needed to move any court forward. That is a maxim of law!

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