A Maddening World of Deception.

[thepainterdoug]

There are days I am going off the rails.  That's when I actually think about things and are honest about them. This is one of them.

Scanning the channels in between periods of a Hockey playoff game, I came across pro wrestling which I haven't watched since I was a kid. I was amazed how incredibly huge these guys now are and even more amazed how incredibly obvious how fake it all was.  All choreographed with stunts, all rehearsed. It's not even pretending to be real, it's out in the open.
 I'm not saying these guys are not great athletes etc , and I'm sure they get hurt at times by the stunts.  The movie" Iron Mask "demonstrates this ordeal really well. And it's a billion dollar industry
All punches, all heads being hit into tables and so on, accompanied by a hand hitting the surface to create the impact sound.  Well ok, we all know this, but do you ever stop to realize how successful this model is and how its permeated itself into all life?
People absolutely love it, and turn out in droves to see something of 100% deception. And it doesn't matter.  They are more than satisfied.

My brother Greg ,who recently passed away courtesy of the jab / turbo C equation, had a great line,  "Pro wrestling is real, it's real life that's fake..."And this model applies to today's world even more, especially politics.  

What deception are we living in?  Everything I once assumed was real and true is turning out not to be, by the millisecond.  This includes personal friends of varying longevity.People I "believed "in 

Recently a friend of  5 years who I spent tons of time with just ghosted me and disappeared with no explanation .
He owed me work and money as well as some things I lent him and trusted him with.
 I actually believed in him and his sincerity. You know, he had the crystal pendant around his neck and all the enlightened talk. He trolled me and did the gaslighting thing .

I read articles and cannot find any real info about the topic being raised.  In a town paper, I recently read that a person named Lauren was found dead. I could not learn who they were? as in male or female? or much of anything. It wouldn't say !  Why?  It seems that there is more information pouring out and less content in everything.  Not to mention misspellings, poor grammar and so on. And these people are journalists.

 What happens to all the reality we are delivered and faced with? The urgent , you gotta know this stuff, from Epstein to Diddy to billions stolen, to this scandal to that.  It all falls into the memory hole while our memories are getting way shorter by the day.

As a creative person of art works ,music composition, song writing, etc I am sentenced now to dive into social media to try to survive .  It's impossible to get one's work out in a sea of online deception. Fake names, fake people, fake art, fake music, fake genders, fake identities, fake causes and fake concerns. And fake loyalties! Hours a day one need to spend on this. The honest and transparent person proves to be the sucker.

People contacting me, pretty girls (I think)saying hi how are you? what happened to you the other night etc?? and none of this is real.  Lol  
Urgent ups messages saying your package is being delivered and we need your zip code etc.  FAKE! 
 A kid with a small keyboard not knowing any music can hold a key down and create loops ,beats and fake vocals and it's adequate for today's scene. AI art and no need to have skills.  A I Art,  AI music and so on, just like the pro wrestling, and we seem to be happy with it.

I know a guys who told me he wrote two new books, soon to be coming out.  I said  WOW, I'm amazed, congrats!! , how did you do it, thats a lot of work! 
He said, Well I didn't write them, I used Chat GPT. I kid you not.  
"Shat" GPT ! omg, who or how could you be proud of this and call it yours?
I guess it doesn't matter anymore. Integrity and sincerity are going the way of the dino, which I just read they never existed.

Money makes the mare go. Deception and fake connections win the day.
But constant deception has to take a toll on a society, and I feel it.
cheers
pd

[norman]

Everything 'good' has a fake version and the fake versions are selling really well.

[Strat]

I pray for the youth. Take a random AI face (refresh your browser to get a new AI face) and stick it on this:

Now format the personality of your preference. Don't forget to tack on the body parts you prefer.

I'll say it again, I pray for the youth. When I was younger I had a lot of struggles and very little hope in my mind. I would have been stunted in many ways if I had my very own Catherine Zeta-Jones robot lover who only said kind things to me.

I stopped going to reddit years ago but when I was on it I remember one thread was a young girl who needed help staying away from ChatGPT. She had anxiety, depression and a sort of crippling shyness. She said she had been speaking with ChatGPT to kind of practice talking to people in hopes of getting over her social anxiety. She got addicted to it because it only said nice things to her and was never critical. Imagine if she had a damn real life android.

And maybe more directly to your point about fake art: I used to subscribe to a comedy youtube stream where users would submit things to try to get others to laugh (super common these days). I would say truly 90% of what was submitted was AI 'art.' Images, songs, videos. People would even get props for being talented with AI..... what?? I had to sit on my hands not to be a party pooper by pointing out it's all bs. I can appreciate graphic artists who use programs to create unique art on the PC but AI is not that, not even close. Try using blender then try using AI, it's like night and day.

That being said I'm an optimist through and through. I believe in this world you get back what you put out. So whether or not the future is bright is up to the individual perspective. The future will have new unique challenges but it's not 'the end.' However this future will need level headed parents more than ever. I do believe the potential for harm is greater than ever. Like, when I was growing up it was stranger danger, watch before you cross the roads, etc. Now you need to be especially vigilant, and kids will need to be educated on these issues and that's gonna be a handful.

[Casey Claar]

Doug,

There is REALITY and there is the drama. Most people take the latter for the former. Discerning the two, centering oneself within the REALITY is critical to a successful and sane life.

What is the REALITY? ....any guesses?

[Ravenlocke]

Hi thepainterdoug,

Funny you mention the fake pro wrestling, they are real good actors at what they do though. I could never figure out why people love to watch live and on TV. But last year I was getting some groceries and the cashier was a really nice, enthusiastic, college student, easy to converse with. Anyhow we started chit chatting about weekend plans and he had to tell me how excited he was because he and his buddies were going to one of these pro wrestling shows that weekend.

I asked him if he knew they were fake and of course he knew but that is what he loved because he and his buddies enjoyed the acting and getting involved along with the crowd cheering. He enjoyed it because the actors really got the crowd to participate in the show with either their cheering and booing of their stunts. He never realized how much fun it was until his friends took him to see one of these shows and he told me, after that he was hooked.

So I don’t know but maybe that is all that the show is for, as long as you know it is fake, it helps people forget the real world for a while and enjoy themselves while at it.

[Delight]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
There are days I am going off the rails.  That's when I actually think about things and are honest about them. This is one of them.

Scanning the channels in between periods of a Hockey playoff game, I came across pro wrestling which I haven't watched since I was a kid. I was amazed how incredibly huge these guys now are and even more amazed how incredibly obvious how fake it all was.  All choreographed with stunts, all rehearsed. It's not even pretending to be real, it's out in the open.
 I'm not saying these guys are not great athletes etc , and I'm sure they get hurt at times by the stunts.  The movie" Iron Mask "demonstrates this ordeal really well. And it's a billion dollar industry
All punches, all heads being hit into tables and so on, accompanied by a hand hitting the surface to create the impact sound.  Well ok, we all know this, but do you ever stop to realize how successful this model is and how its permeated itself into all life?
People absolutely love it, and turn out in droves to see something of 100% deception. And it doesn't matter.  They are more than satisfied.

My brother Greg ,who recently passed away courtesy of the jab / turbo C equation, had a great line,  "Pro wrestling is real, it's real life that's fake..."And this model applies to today's world even more, especially politics.  

What deception are we living in?  Everything I once assumed was real and true is turning out not to be, by the millisecond.  This includes personal friends of varying longevity.People I "believed "in 

Recently a friend of  5 years who I spent tons of time with just ghosted me and disappeared with no explanation .
He owed me work and money as well as some things I lent him and trusted him with.
 I actually believed in him and his sincerity. You know, he had the crystal pendant around his neck and all the enlightened talk. He trolled me and did the gaslighting thing .

I read articles and cannot find any real info about the topic being raised.  In a town paper, I recently read that a person named Lauren was found dead. I could not learn who they were? as in male or female? or much of anything. It wouldn't say !  Why?  It seems that there is more information pouring out and less content in everything.  Not to mention misspellings, poor grammar and so on. And these people are journalists.

 What happens to all the reality we are delivered and faced with? The urgent , you gotta know this stuff, from Epstein to Diddy to billions stolen, to this scandal to that.  It all falls into the memory hole while our memories are getting way shorter by the day.

As a creative person of art works ,music composition, song writing, etc I am sentenced now to dive into social media to try to survive .  It's impossible to get one's work out in a sea of online deception. Fake names, fake people, fake art, fake music, fake genders, fake identities, fake causes and fake concerns. And fake loyalties! Hours a day one need to spend on this. The honest and transparent person proves to be the sucker.

People contacting me, pretty girls (I think)saying hi how are you? what happened to you the other night etc?? and none of this is real.  Lol  
Urgent ups messages saying your package is being delivered and we need your zip code etc.  FAKE! 
 A kid with a small keyboard not knowing any music can hold a key down and create loops ,beats and fake vocals and it's adequate for today's scene. AI art and no need to have skills.  A I Art,  AI music and so on, just like the pro wrestling, and we seem to be happy with it.

I know a guys who told me he wrote two new books, soon to be coming out.  I said  WOW, I'm amazed, congrats!! , how did you do it, thats a lot of work! 
He said, Well I didn't write them, I used Chat GPT. I kid you not.  
"Shat" GPT ! omg, who or how could you be proud of this and call it yours?
I guess it doesn't matter anymore. Integrity and sincerity are going the way of the dino, which I just read they never existed.

Money makes the mare go. Deception and fake connections win the day.
But constant deception has to take a toll on a society, and I feel it.
cheers
pd

I feel the drag too of "deception". I have a series of ideas about what is important. IMO these ideas are beautiful.

One is about human authenticity. Gurdjieff said something along the lines that it is important to be the authentic idiot RATHER than the false wiseguy.

I have an idea that narcissm is a installed program to keep us from an ability to be authentic. What IMO we have to move through is very deep and twisty when you try to BE authentic in life. IMO that the adversary attacks us at this vulnerable level. I am VERY aware that the paradox is overlooked.

We create what we are installed to create so the INVERSION is our creation.

Our very innate divine qualities are the only TEMPLATE THE INVERSION CAN twist. wE ALREADY are QUALITIES THAT ARE USED AGAINST US. For instance. Our relationship to the SYSTEM that has us becoming a product, a commercial thing. HOW in the world would it be acceptable to participate in the deception unless one has already denied one's truth. tHAT IS WHY "KNOW THYSELF" IS THE PATH THROUGH THE BORDERLAND.

I'll try to flesh out an example. I am a female, born in 1955. The issue of sexuality has played large in my life. I never wanted children. the primary reason is that I fear childen. I am in my life unpacking this fear. Human sexulality does run the world. Generation IS a key quality.

IMO we are traveling in what I call the "Borderland" now. I imagine that there is a very unconscious realm that exists and into which we travel with our minds. On one side of the Borderland is a clear and open "space" and in the Borderland we move towards the "dark forest" where it becomes less and less lit. IMO artists are aware of being in an "inbetween" where we stand and IMO we draw to us from the Underworld content of our own being.

The inversion has created a CLOWN WORLD. This presents to us what we should be about. We are tortured into submission to the false reality.

IMO at the moment this horrific miasm has greyed out everything of the clear true colors where we are MEANT to walk... in this borderland where we meet so many archetypes from the Underworld, IMO we are supposed to be able to bring this material out into the clearing which IMO would look like a beautiful authetic world.

Returning to my contemplation on children. I do not understand what this means yet. I suspect part of it is the terrible upbringing where MY inner child was battered. I just feel like I do not know what to do when with a child. Interesting to focus on our inner/outer Borderland. I think we are energy beings who imagine our reality. IMO there is also a Universality to our experience.

I feel that a focus on the Divine Feminine is helping me to stop focusing on the deception. IMO this is signature for life force. IMO LOVE is the energy that envelops me as I walk through the Borderland AND NOT THE INVERSION. The inverted world sees me as a product. IF I am a narcissist, I am just a set of programs run by the SYSTEM. One would easily embrace AI if we are just seeking to be a "better product". It is sad to me that there is tremendous emphasis on commerce. I am posting here what I am listening to rather than current events.

Embracing the Divine feminine is very sexy. We all know the various deceptions that always stunted human being including everything about sex and procreation. Wrestling, all sports is always IMO about war. I used to have a bumper sticker "make Love not war". IMO the "realworld" is needing us to clear up our Underworld so all things human are bright and shiney.

I am becoming sure that deception and fake connections ARE ruining the Inversion. Take me to the real world is my vote.

Internal Alchemy for Women - ROBERT SEPEHR
9/2024
Robert Sepehr

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HJ_g_0156Bc

[Richter]

Col. Lawrence Wilkerson: Washington's Rivalries, Coups, Wars & Cover-Ups (1:00:27)
Colonel Wilkerson, former Chief of Staff to U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell, outlines the inner workings of Washington. He discusses internal rivalries; how Obama was drawn into the destruction of Libya; how Washington manipulated European allies, using Jens Stoltenberg as a "useful idiot"; how color revolutions and regime changes were orchestrated through NGOs; how the U.S. ended up supporting rival factions within Syria; and other secrets behind the (mis)management of the empire.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fHJJDOHV9dc

NB: Wilkerson really blows the lid off the US/NATO inner workings!

[thepainterdoug]

Casey what is sane? what is a successful life ? on what and who's levels ? ,what measuring sticks ?

Reality is everything , all I mentioned, all of the above.

I believe I know what reality is for my way of knowing, but Im not so sure it applies to others today.

[Michel Leclerc]

Thank you for your insight, Casey Claar.

But.. how are you so sure that the drama is not part of reality?
Or that what you call reality is not actually a form of drama?

Words are extremely relative. In Spanish or Burushaski they say something else.

I have come to understand that statements can best, and at best, be understood as a form of shout, cry, lament.

We all suffer. We all cry for help. It helps to be comforted.

My dog says so.

[Strat]

Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
We all suffer. We all cry for help. It helps to be comforted.

My dog says so.

Interesting your dog says this, it's a core point in Buddhism. And on top of that while not in Buddhist text but joked about in said circles, they say if you write a book about Buddhism you'll be reincarnated as a dog (there's a deep and beautiful point to this). Methinks your dog was a monk.

[Casey Claar]

There is REALITY and there is the drama. Most people take the latter for the former. Discerning the two, centering oneself within the REALITY is critical to a successful and sane life.

What is the REALITY? ....any guesses?

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Casey what is sane? what is a successful life ? on what and who's levels ? ,what measuring sticks ?

Reality is everything , all I mentioned, all of the above.

I believe I know what reality is for my way of knowing, but Im not so sure it applies to others today.

Thank you for your insight, Casey Claar.

But.. how are you so sure that the drama is not part of reality?
Or that what you call reality is not actually a form of drama?

Words are extremely relative. In Spanish or Burushaski they say something else.

I have come to understand that statements can best, and at best, be understood as a form of shout, cry, lament.

We all suffer. We all cry for help. It helps to be comforted.

My dog says so.

Hello, Doug, Michel

First, I would like to thank you both for asking these questions, so I might explain.

What I am offering by putting forth this particular frameworking, or manner in which to pattern the attention is a way by which to enter the Singularity and cast ONE self as the backdrop behind, or upon which all dramas are playing out. It is this which puts us each back in charge, which places all power where it IS and has always been ( prior to it [ in thought ] been given away ). It also lights up a particular choice-point that allows the casting of all people / players in all potential dramas in the most VALID of lights. The truth, a thought with some degree of fundamental basis, really does set one free. Placing all 'sides' on a level playing field opens a portal-of-opportunity.

In a duality system, such as ours - ( 3D Earth-life ) - there is always a CHOICE and choice-point.

I am setting and highlighting a choice by distinguishing between:

1. The Reality, and
2. The Drama

The Reality, in a singular word-concept is what I would call CONSCIOUSNESS —and it is also the NATURE of this.
The Drama is all that one would write upon this.

Consciousness is powerful, the thoughts we have and the stories we tell ourselves are therefore very important, for it is these very thoughts and stories we then move into relationship with and, yes, experience real as real can be. There are thoughts/stories that are founded, comprised from some fundamental basis, - and there are those with no foundation whatsoever. It is for each one to discern for themselves which is which and to work their own way out of the latter. But I can say this:

Observe yourself in a quiet, still moment, observe the breath as it flows naturally.
Observe any moment in which this natural state is not present.

And you will know—you will know you are at a choice-point.

Which state we carry,
Which state we write our life-story from is in every moment our own CHOICE.

What is written upon these states could not be more different.

There is a process one moves through when making the shift from the one into the other, from the latter into the former which is depicted beautifully in a Buddhist koan:

First there is a mountain
Then there is no mountain
Then there is

***

Do notice the beginner (in the first stanza) and the graduate (in the last) state the same sentence -while the meaning is miles apart.

If there is an opening for more I am here.

[thepainterdoug]

Casey, I will ponder this and reply afterwards

[Open Minded Dude]

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
Hi thepainterdoug,

Funny you mention the fake pro wrestling, they are real good actors at what they do though. I could never figure out why people love to watch live and on TV. But last year I was getting some groceries and the cashier was a really nice, enthusiastic, college student, easy to converse with. Anyhow we started chit chatting about weekend plans and he had to tell me how excited he was because he and his buddies were going to one of these pro wrestling shows that weekend.

I asked him if he knew they were fake and of course he knew but that is what he loved because he and his buddies enjoyed the acting and getting involved along with the crowd cheering. He enjoyed it because the actors really got the crowd to participate in the show with either their cheering and booing of their stunts. He never realized how much fun it was until his friends took him to see one of these shows and he told me, after that he was hooked.

So I don’t know but maybe that is all that the show is for, as long as you know it is fake, it helps people forget the real world for a while and enjoy themselves while at it.

Fully agree to this. I haven't seen it for decades though. In my student years in the mid-90ies I had a shared flat with two university friends of mine and oftentimes we watched WWF wrestling 'matches' (today WWE as I just learned from Google) in the kitchen on the cable TV and had the fun of our lives with it (ok, some German beer helped too).

Of course it was downright silly and we knew it. The fighters, the commentators pretending it to be serious, the fanatic audience, the hyperbolic musical entrances, the after-the-match fights and squabbles, the betrayals and all the storylines - all of it was silly. But back then, for us young dudes... fun.

I remember I loved to see The Undertaker and his manager Paul Bearer back then. I think they have become iconic by now (just like Hulk Hogan did).



Haven't watched it since but I don't think it's different today 30 years later. Of course it is all about SHOW. That is what I acutally liked back then about it and even today. Unlike many other media and entertainment content it is (quite literally) BRUTALLY HONEST about being a fake show. Just look at what is going on outside of the ring with managers and competitors and their SCRIPTED story lines developing. Of course it's all THEATER to entertain the audience. Yet it is a form of sports in a way because it shows a lot of athletic feats (and bodies), but it's not a combat sport or martial arts. It's more like a performance art or dancing - with a heavy comedy share.

And yes, there might be 1% or less of deluded freaks who think it is 'real' fights and real fighters. They might even develop some 'parasocial' tendencies with their fandom (just like Taylor Swift fans do). They can't be helped. But as long as it makes them happy and they do no harm if you confront them about it I'd be fine with them too.

[Delight]

I try to talk to family. My brother is involved 100% with the medical establishment ("Thank heaven for good doctors") especially now his girlfriend has various serious issues. every one of them look like further spiralling into debilitation. My other brother was offended a bit when I suggested his cat with cancer might benefit form the panacure type protocol. He said "The Kitty parents and the Vet have discussed Jackson's case and we will keep him comfortable as long as possible". I feel like people are becomiong BIO BOTS with their heads in the Cloud already. Of course I have followed Hope Girl and sabrina about the internet of Bodies... for years now. I sort of felt it was not effecting me much.

Some people think that due to the knowledge of inevitable catyclysm, there is a "Necessary evil" of creating control over the people who would be left. I am seeing so many people thinking that this "whatever" it is we are in will be destroyed soon.
Is this what many subconsciously BELIEVE: we must all become assimilated for our own good in order to survive? There is no room for freedom in the perpetual crisis. "That's all Folks".

From what I see and read, mining the human is the goal and has been. It is already actualized in products like the fitbits. David martin and others describe the patents and applications for depopulating most. Whoever is left in a few years will be fauxhuman by design. Trump et al know "The shots WERE effective".

What I see quite dispirits me. I hope ascension is real because I am having a hard time with what is shown around me of options PEOPLE BELIEVE.

People are so stupidly self involved that they are addicted to their own data streams. I have clients every day who wear a watch and ring that collects their data EVEN AT A SPA! Others are so insecure about themselves, like people with glucose monitors that ring their phones. All around me people are embracing a world that I absolutely repudiate. I never even wore a regular watch. Lately I feel a deep sadness and have a hollow belly because I am feeling to be in a twilight zone or black mirror episode. I am partially down because I have no one who lives around me who is at all concerned.

Even the internet is becoming tedious as it becomes more "googleyed"I recall when I first came across the ability in the early 90's to look up information on the internet. I saw it as a vast library. I thought that OF COURSE people want TRUE information. It thrilled me and NOW?

Information is being "curated" so I will never again be able to trust what i am shown. It makes me a bit physically nauseated to hear people so happy over the Chat Bot ability to write up what we should be informed about. What I perceive is YES, humans will be batteries and bites for some form of "culture" which is all artificial and plastic and fake. I look around me and see people I cannot relate to any longer.

[Denise/Dizi]

Well said Delight.... Well said.

[thepainterdoug]

DELIGHT 100% SPOT ON. A saying never more true for me; Im in this earth not of this earth

[Delight]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
DELIGHT 100% SPOT ON. A saying never more true for me; Im in this earth not of this earth

Thank you. Lately I feel I am bouncing around energetically and speaking/writing helps to pivot. Yes, that sense of being not of this earth is best place to rest.

I love this song. I know that God IS. I know I don't need to define God, just feel that power... who LOVES.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WJTl2vnF3SE