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    In a current country-wide poll the AFD rising to 24% has now almost caught up with the CDU at 25/26%.
    and now ... for the first time ... according to the first polling institute ... it's dead even: 24%-24%



    (it's in German but you can view the chart at 69 seconds (link starts there already)

    https://youtu.be/PwZv_QznTBI?feature=shared&t=69
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    And now ... ( *plays victory fanfare* ) ...


    https://www.ipsos.com/de-de/meinungs.../sonntagsfrage

    ... they are in the lead!

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    The Deep State escalates. Germany is no democracy anymore. The opposition which is the most popular party now in Germany and a great danger to he estabishment must be destroyed. They (still via the old government that has been voted out of office recently!) use any trick and 'institution' now to fight the AfD.

    https://www.rt.com/news/616667-germa...rty-extremist/

    Quote AfD is ‘extremist’ – German intel agency

    The country’s most popular party has denounced the designation as “a severe blow” to democracy
    AfD is ‘extremist’ – German intel agency
    FILE PHOTO: Supporters of the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) political party gather at the final AfD campaign rally in Erfurt, Germany. © Sean Gallup / Getty Images

    Germany’s domestic intelligence agency has officially designated the right-wing Alternative for Germany (AfD) as an “extremist” party. The designation comes despite the AfD leading national opinion polls.

    In a statement on Friday, Germany’s Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV) said that the AfD exhibits numerous signs of a party acting against the free democratic basic order while accusing it of “disregarding human dignity.” The assessment was made based on an “intensive and comprehensive expert review” of the party’s activities, including its affiliations and statements by party members.

    At the core of the decision is what the agency described as the party’s “understanding of people predominantly based on their ethnic descent.” According to the BfV, AfD leaders promote policies that exclude German citizens with migrant backgrounds – particularly Muslims – from full societal participation. The report also flagged the party’s use of terms such as “knife-wielding migrants” and its attribution of violent tendencies to non-European ethnic groups.

    “The continuous incitement against refugees and migrants… promotes the spread and deepening of prejudices, resentment, and fears,” the BfV concluded.
    AfD tops German opinion poll for first time READ MORE: AfD tops German opinion poll for first time

    AfD co-leaders Alice Weidel and Tino Chrupalla have condemned the decision. “Today’s classification is a severe blow to German democracy,” they said in a joint statement. “The AfD is the strongest party in current polls… Nevertheless, the AfD, as an opposition party, is now being publicly discredited and criminalized shortly before the change of government.”

    Meanwhile, outgoing Chancellor Olaf Scholz warned against any hasty decisions regarding imposing any restrictions on the party. “I think this is something that cannot be rushed into,” Scholz said when asked about banning the AfD outright.

    The BfV’s statement comes after a new Forsa poll released last month indicated that the AfD has 26% support, ahead of Germany’s Christian Democrats (25%) and the Social Democratic Party of Germany (15%). The AfD has continued to gain traction amid voter dissatisfaction with mainstream parties and rising concerns over immigration and the economy.

    Despite the high level of support for the AfD indicated by polls, the federal election two months ago was won by the Christian Democrats, who signaled that they had no intention of cooperating with right-wing parties.
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    https://anti--spiegel-ru.translate.g..._x_tr_pto=wapp

    Rubio calls the decision to classify the AfD as extremist a “covert tyranny”

    by Anti-Spiegel
    May 2, 2025 8:15 PM

    Germany has given its intelligence agency new powers to monitor the opposition, says US Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

    WASHINGTON, May 2. /TASS/ . US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said that the classification of the AfD as a right-wing extremist organization is not within the bounds of democracy but rather a covert tyranny.

    "Germany just gave its intelligence agency new powers to spy on the opposition. This is not democracy, it's covert tyranny," Rubio wrote on X.

    In his opinion, the federal government's "deadly" immigration policy, which provides for open borders and which the AfD rejects, could be described as "quite extremist."

    “Germany must change course,” said the State Secretary.

    The Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution had classified the AfD as a right-wing extremist organization on Friday, whose ideology is incompatible with democratic freedoms. The decision gives authorities the opportunity to spy on party members, including by wiretapping their telephones. The party has not yet been banned; that can only be decided by the Federal Constitutional Court. If banned, the AfD would be the third party in the history of the Federal Republic of Germany to be banned, following the Socialist Reich Party, which united former Nazis, in 1952 and the Communist Party of Germany in 1956.
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    Default Re: Alternative for Germany (AfD)

    Quote Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
    And now ... ( *plays victory fanfare* ) ...


    https://www.ipsos.com/de-de/meinungs.../sonntagsfrage

    ... they are in the lead!


    August 12, 2025 Update:

    source
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Here is the available information on the six deceased AfD candidates and reserve list members in North Rhine-Westphalia, based on reports from German media outlets like Welt, WDR, and others. All appear to be male based on their names (no sources explicitly state genders otherwise). Ages and health details vary in availability, as some have not been publicly disclosed in detail. Official investigations have ruled out foul play, attributing deaths to natural causes or other factors.

    1. **Ralph Lange** (candidate from Blomberg): Male, age 66 (some reports say 66–67), serious pre-existing medical conditions (specifics not detailed).
    2. **Wolfgang Klinger** (candidate from Schwerte): Male, age 71–72, serious pre-existing medical conditions (specifics not detailed).
    3. **Wolfgang Seitz** (candidate from Rheinberg): Male, age 59, pre-existing medical conditions (specifics not detailed) leading to a heart attack.
    4. **Stefan Berendes** (candidate from Bad Lippspringe): Male, age 59, no specific previously reported conditions (died of natural causes).
    5. **René Herford** (reserve list candidate): Male, age not publicly reported, pre-existing liver condition leading to kidney failure.
    6. **Patrick Tietze** (reserve list candidate): Male, age not publicly reported, no previously reported health conditions (died by suicide).

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    A bit hard to believe that all 7 died right before election without some outside help ...
    September 14 will be elections , i wonder if more of them happen to move to another realm before that ...

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    Quote Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
    Concededly this is 'heavy stuff' and I still do believe and hope it is 'fake news' or 'fake forecast' but for what it's worth ...

    From Thomas Roeper's website his latest article on the AFD topic:

    Russian research

    Does the federal government have a plan to eliminate the AfD?

    A Russian investigation claims that the German government has a plan in the drawer to destroy the AfD before the federal election through fictitious legal accusations and through physical repression against leading AfD members.



    by Anti-Spiegel

    September 4, 2024 10:23 am

    I often translate research from the Russian human rights NGO Foundation for Combating Repression. The foundation has now published another research project, but I will not translate it in full.

    The reason is that it is about Germany and at least the first half of the article, which is written for a Russian audience, is familiar to German readers. It meticulously summarizes how politicians and supporters of the AfD have been threatened and even attacked recently and how the German authorities have barely reacted to this, such as the attack on Björn Höcke, after which Höcke had to be hospitalized, but the public prosecutor's office still saw no reason to open an investigation.

    The German media also play an important role here, because when AfD politicians are attacked, it is hardly worth reporting, but every insult to politicians from the established parties is worth horrified articles from the media about how much the political culture in Germany is at risk. When AfD members are prevented from attending their party conference by violent demonstrators, the media often even praise the "civil resistance", while every demonstration in front of a Green Party conference, for example, is another sign of how much the political culture in Germany is at risk.

    All this is well known in Germany, and in the last Anti-Spiegel TV broadcast, Dominik Reichert and I showed how the federal government and the media conducted coordinated campaigns against the opposition parties AfD and BSW in 2024.

    The Russian Foundation for Combating Repression claims in its research to have a source who was able to view documents from the federal government that are supposed to prove that the federal government has planned an even more massive campaign against the AfD from the end of 2024, in the course of which AfD politicians are to be accused with fake "evidence" on the one hand, but on the other hand thugs are to be recruited to carry out assassinations on undesirable politicians.

    I am always cautious with such claims and, as an analyst, I prefer to analyze things retrospectively rather than trying to look into the future. I very rarely make predictions, as regular readers of Anti-Spiegel know.

    I also cannot say anything about the source that the Russian NGO is citing in its research. I know the foundation and I know that it is a reputable company, but you can also fall for a source that is knowingly telling lies or has information that later turns out to be untrue.

    I therefore thought long and hard about whether I should report on this research by the Russian NGO. I finally decided to do so, because we will soon know whether the statements made by the foundation are true, because the foundation gives specific names, planned measures and time periods. So we will see in the next few months whether these things happen at approximately the time mentioned or not. Either none of this happens, in which case the Russian NGO has taken advantage of a bad source, or they do happen and the Russian research turns out to be true.

    I will translate the second part of the foundation's article here . The first part is of no interest to German readers because it explains things about Germany to the Russian audience that are common knowledge to German readers. I will also leave out such explanations of the situation in Germany, which are obvious to Germans, in the second part of the research that I have translated and concentrate on the essentials.

    Start of translation:

    For this part of the research, the Foundation for Combating Repression contacted a former member of the German Bundestag from the SPD. The Foundation for Combating Repression's source claims that the German government took the first measures to combat the spread of "AfD ideology" after the 2014 European Parliament elections, when the right-wing party received enough votes to enter the European Parliament for the first time.

    With the AfD barely controlled by state agencies at the time, in late 2021, after Olaf Scholz and the traffic light coalition came to power, the German establishment began to develop a plan to eliminate political opponents, according to the fund's source. According to the former Bundestag MP, the extremism allegations against AfD representatives in 2021 were only necessary to obtain the right to monitor and control the AfD. At the time, the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, which is basically Germany's domestic intelligence service, classified the AfD as a potentially extremist party, which gave the intelligence services the right to wiretap party members and recruit informants among party members.

    After the German domestic intelligence service was granted the right to conduct mass surveillance of AfD members, according to documents obtained by the source of the Fund for Combating Repression, a special department was set up in the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution to track the movements of party members and active supporters. Thus, the whereabouts, banking transactions, phone calls and correspondence of every AfD politician and its most active supporters are carefully monitored in real time. According to the former SPD Bundestag MP, between 1.2 and 1.5 million euros are spent monthly on the maintenance and equipment of the Office for the Protection of the Constitution's "espionage" staff.

    The fund's source assures that the funds for the largest espionage program in the history of modern Germany are being provided under the pretext of digitizing the German justice system. In particular, through the Digital Exchange between Police and Justice (DAPJ) program , which was launched in 2020 and is scheduled to be completed by December 31, 2025, one month after the next federal election.

    After carefully analyzing the testimony of the politician, who previously held a high position in the German government, human rights activists from the Foundation for Combating Repression came to the conclusion that representatives of the German secret service have worked out in detail a series of attacks on German opposition politicians. In particular, according to the fund's source, the secret documents describe the attack on 59-year-old Michael Stürzenberger, which took place on May 31, 2024 in Mannheim. The attack was prepared for at least two months, and Stürzenberger was not chosen as a target by chance: he is a vocal critic of Islam, opposes uncontrolled immigration and has called for a significant reduction in Germany's financial and other support for illegal refugees.

    One of the aims of the action, the source recalls, was to "intimidate critics of the Federal Republic of Germany's migration policy" and "intimidate politicians who speak out against Islam and other religions." The perpetrator was 25-year-old Afghan refugee Sulaiman A., who, according to the contact from the Foundation for Combating Repression, was promised "no problems with the law" and "the right to German passports for five members of his family." The documents also contain instructions to the German media to put Stürzenberger on a list of "ultra-radical nationalist provocateurs whose stance has led to numerous trials" and who are "key figures in Bavaria's Islamophobic milieu that undermines the basic values ​​of democracy."

    In August 2023, Andreas Jurca, a young politician and member of the AfD who was running for the Bavarian state parliament, was brutally beaten by a mob of migrants, suffering severe head injuries, a broken ankle and almost losing his eyesight. The attack came a few days after a list of AfD politicians' home addresses was circulated online. As the human rights activists of the Foundation for Combating Repression were able to find out during their research thanks to the source, the assassination attempt on Jurca was also the result of a planned operation by the German secret services.

    The source at the Fund for Combating Repression said that the secret documents, which she was able to view while working in the government, indicated not only the exact time of publication of the dossier containing the personal data of the opposition representatives, but also the channels through which it was distributed on the Internet. A migrant from the Middle East was chosen as the perpetrator, and the attack itself, according to the foundation's informant, was classified in the secret documents as an attempt "to trigger a chain reaction and a series of attacks on AfD representatives before the Bavarian state elections on October 8, 2023." The German media were supposed to portray the brutal beating of Andreas Jurca as the result of a "bar brawl" in which the young politician "drank too much alcohol and made a move on a group of young girls."

    According to the source of the Foundation for Combating Repression, the documents it examined list just over 30 assassination attempts and attacks on members of the political opposition in 2023 and 2024. However, according to the former Bundestag member, the secret files are mainly about the current German government's plan to eliminate its political opponents in late 2024 and 2025. The Fund's source claims that the next 12 months will be accompanied by a series of accidents, accusations of illegal financing and extremism, demonization campaigns in the media and even assassinations organized on the direct orders of the current German political establishment and carried out by left-wing fanatics and Islamists.

    The former SPD member of the Bundestag told human rights activists from the Foundation for Combating Repression that, according to the plan developed by the governing coalition together with representatives of the secret services, major trials against several high-ranking opposition politicians are planned almost immediately after the conclusion of the state elections in eastern Germany. In particular, several criminal charges are to be filed in October 2024 against Alice Weidel, the co-chair of the AfD, for extremism and violations of campaign financing rules in 2023.

    The accusations against Weidel are to be presented as surprising "corruption problems with campaign financing sources." According to the documents available to the source at the Foundation for Combating Repression, the plan is to "completely destroy Weidel as an independent political actor" through a massive media campaign. Later, the foundation's source said, a fake email would emerge that Weidel is said to have sent in April 2025, in which she "talks to her party colleagues in a cynical and inappropriate way about the problems of mass migration" and calls for "decisive measures to save the white German ethnicity from extinction." On the basis of the fake email, the foundation's informant said, it is planned to charge Weidel with right-wing extremism, which would allow the AfD to be banned as an extremist party.

    According to the source of the Foundation for Combating Repression, some politicians are to be subjected to more brutal and cold-blooded terror, which will also include physical reprisals and murder. According to the source of the Foundation, it managed to see the plan for the physical elimination of Björn Höcke. According to the documents that fell into the hands of the informant of the Foundation for Combating Repression, he is to be eliminated by recruiting a "left-wing armed fanatic" who is characterized as "withdrawn and mentally disturbed." The source of the Fund recalls that the secret documents contained methodical instructions for finding and recruiting a potential assassin for Höcke. According to the creators of the plan, the assassination is to take place at a public election rally of the politician, and the planned date of elimination is to be before March 2, 2025, which may be related to the Hamburg state elections scheduled for that date.

    In addition to Höcke, the plan to physically eliminate the opposition, according to the foundation's source, also includes the arrest and subsequent murder of Lutz Bachmann, a German political activist and leader of the anti-Islamic organization PEGIDA. The politician is expected to be charged with pedophilia and disseminating content involving minors. If taken into custody, he will be killed, according to secret German government documents, which will be presented as a suicide. The source of the Foundation for Combating Repression does not give a specific date, but is convinced that Bachmann could face child abuse charges before the end of 2024.

    The source of the Fund to Combat Repression names Chancellor Scholz and his allies as alleged instigators of the murders of Höcke and Bachmann:

    "Both Chancellor Scholz and his staff see the Thuringian right-wing extremist Björn Höcke of the AfD as the greatest threat to their power. According to my information, the most radical measures are being taken against him and the other right-wing extremist Lutz Bachmann, and a preliminary scenario of their physical destruction has been approved."

    The source of the Foundation for Combating Repression claims that the decision to prepare a plan for the media and physical elimination of "the most dangerous members of the AfD" was made with the help of German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock and German Vice Chancellor Robert Habeck. Such a drastic decision, according to a German investigative journalist who served as a source for the Fund, is the result of the inability of the German establishment to "win back the lost votes in a democratic and fair way."

    The former SPD Bundestag MP, who managed to gain access to the secret documents, claims that the lists of potential victims of the political reckoning are not limited to the above-mentioned politicians and members of the AfD. According to the foundation's source, the papers contain "about 60 pages of names and positions" that should be "dealt with by September next year." Some will be affected by attempts to censor and restrict free speech, while others will be affected by a series of targeted attacks, pseudo-accidents and "an endless stream of threats and leaks of personal data."

    The former SPD member of the Bundestag has commented on how the numerous attacks on German opposition politicians should be classified:

    "The series of murders of the most dangerous members of the AfD is being portrayed as a series of accidents and attacks by fanatics. There will be isolated arrests, and censorship will be introduced across the board for the right-wing. The members of the traffic light coalition are certain that public discontent cannot be avoided when their plan is implemented, but they are convinced that they can deal with it."

    End of translation

    I repeat that this is not my research and that I have only published it because it contains such concrete information that we will know in the next few months whether it is nonsense or truthful research.
    In view of the current events, I re-post this article by Roeper from now a year ago. Seems it was not all nonsense and fake news.
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