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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    For those who can do it but didn't think of it:

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    A nearly perfect emergency generator

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    A Toyota Prius with an inverter, available factory installed or added yourself to the 12V system if you are capable, is a nearly perfect emergency generator. This article https://invertersrus.com/prius-power-inverter/ explains it well.

    My Prius “c” provides me with 800 watts continuously via a 1KW sine-wave inverter I added to the 12 VDC system. This is easily enough to power my freezer, refrigerator, some LED lights, the TV, and the blower for my wood burning fireplace insert. I run heavy duty extension cords around the house rather than trying to tie-in to the breaker box, that way I have complete control over the loads I place on the system and there is no danger of feeding power into a dead power line. I used this system for 5 days during an ice storm a few years ago.

    The engine runs intermittently, about 1 minute out of 10 to keep the main high voltage traction battery battery charged. The system uses the traction battery to charge the 12 VDC accessory battery. The 12 V battery supplies the approximately 80 amps needed to run my add-on inverter.

    The Prius as a generator is very efficient. I did not measure exactly how much gas I used in those 5 days, but I never refilled my 10 gallon tank and had plenty left in it.

    I left the car parked out in my driveway (locked) and ran a construction grade #10 extension cord into the house under the garage door. It’s a hassle to run the extension cords and I only do it if I have reason to believe it will be an extended outage. In my location I’m guessing that except for the ice storm, in the last 10 years the power has been out less than a 5 hours a year. To me its not worth putting in a whole house generator for that.

    Keep in mind that a Prius is designed to generate and properly handle distribution of large DC voltages and currents. Don’t try this with a regular car battery and alternator, you may damage your vehicle. You could screw up and damage your Prius. The factory installed option is best, this post is for information only and is not electrical or mechanical advice.

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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    One thought that occurred to me is that if the build-up of ice is asymmetrical, then this might create a very slight wobble on the spinning mass of the planet. I have no idea what effects that might trigger (or if the wobble would be large enough to create a knock-on effect).
    Well, you say it; if this fenomenon is anormal and go on , it could trigger the erth crust flip, like in the movie 2012...

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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Recent Drop in Solar Activity Portends a Much Colder Time Ahead – Video

    by Robert
    November 23, 2020

    I highly recommend that you watch this video by Peter Temple, who warns “just when we need more energy and warmth, we have politicians trying to tax it out of existence.”

    “The sun and the planets are the main driver of climate change on our tiny little planet,” says Temple, who pretty much says what I’ve been saying all along, namely that “it’s a cycle, it’s a cycle, it’s a cycle!”

    The difference is that Temple doesn’t take our rapidly declining magnetic field strength into account, which I fear will make things even worse.


    Periods of warming correlate with major civilizations You can see by the above graph that temperature has been trending down for the past 5,000 years.

    Perhaps this next graph, beginning about 9,000 years ago, will make that trend even more visible.

    Notice that temperatures were warmer than today when Ancient Egypt flourished. Temperatures were also warmer than today during the Roman Empire, the Grecian Empire, during the time the Maya were flourishing, and during the Medieval Warm Period.

    So much for unprecedented global warming!

    Blue areas signify times when temperatures were colder than today. Red areas represent times of warmth (mostly warmer than today).

    Here’s a little hint of what you will see in the video:
    • Periods of warming correlate with the rise of major civilizations, ie: Egypt, Greece, Rome, The Mayans.

    • When the climate cools, civilizations collapse into ruin. Those periods get labeled as dark ages, because there usually great declines in living standards.

    • Social mood always turns negative with colder climate, which brings about riots and wars.


    When the climate cools, civilizations collapse into ruin.
    • One of the other features of the 172-year cycle is financial collapse.

    • And now, just when we’re going to need more energy and warmth, our politicians want to tax it out of existence.
    Peter also refers to the Russian astrophysicist Habibullo Abdusamatov, who warns that we are now headed into a little ice age. I have posted about Dr Abdusamatov many times. Here is one of those posts: A New Little Ice Age has already begun, says Russian astrophysicist

    If for some reason this video does not display, you can also view it on Peter Temple’s website:
    https://worldcyclesinstitute.com/global-cooling/
    And if that doesn’t work, you can view it on YouTube
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZw4...AyEGBtq0oLFkkw

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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

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    So much for unprecedented global warming!

    Blue areas signify times when temperatures were colder than today. Red areas represent times of warmth (mostly warmer than today).
    That's a heck of a clear, simple graph to show to Greta Thunberg.

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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Yup, there is a cycle, yup, the arctic is melting and the antarctic freezing. But no, that does not disprove that climate change caused by emissions into the atmosphere isn't happening, nor that it will have catastrophic effects if the emissions aren't stopped, or the atmosphere otherwise brought into balance.

    The arctic is melting due to a warming planet. The antarctic freezing is happening for the same reason but with a more complicated mechanism. Warming in the large oceans (Atlantic, Pacific, Indian) and the weather above it has caused a permanent shift in the circumferential current around Antarctica, pulling it tighter and reducing the amount of interchange with currents to the north. So since it is pretty much static in position near the cold, it is colder, and that supports colder air around the edge of the continent, causing more snow.

    A permanent shift like that caused by events in the surrounding oceans is an example of a tipping point. People don't talk much about tipping points for climate, but they are a big deal, because they are things that if the climate was to reverse, either by stopping the emissions or otherwise, would not change back.

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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    So much for unprecedented global warming!

    Blue areas signify times when temperatures were colder than today. Red areas represent times of warmth (mostly warmer than today).
    That's a heck of a clear, simple graph to show to Greta Thunberg.
    She saw it!


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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Bumping this thread with a copied post from Helvetic a few hours ago.

    Quote Posted by Helvetic (here)
    Antarctica Breaks *MULTIPLE* All-Time Low Temperature Records | Aug. 17, 2023

    Source: electroverse.info



    "Antarctica is cooling. The data confirm it.

    Temperatures at the bottom of the world have routinely broken all-time records in recent times.

    Antarctica endured its coldest-ever ‘coreless winter’ (April-Sept) in 2021, then shivered through practically all of 2022, posting colder-than-average month after colder-than-average month, including the coldest November since 1987 and the latest -60C (-76F) on record — with the year culminating in the South Pole Station averaging just -49.5C (-51.7F); -0.4C below the norm.

    The historic chill has spilled into 2023, too.

    Back in March, the Antarctic continent suffered its coldest ever reading so early into a year; in July it logged Earth’s lowest temperature since 2017; and now, in mid-August, it’s breaking multiple all-time cold records at stations across the continent."

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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Bill. so either John ( i dont own a plane, my wife does) Kerry is in the money, or Al (houses galore )Gore is.

    They got it covered, as the sheep bow down to anyone on the T V or with a lab coat

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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Interesting new video on the cooling of AMOC (Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation). Of course they manage to insert their usual carbon narrative, but they stay mostly on track by stressing how reduced temperatures in the mid-Atlantic are affecting the stability of the gulf stream, and how this may affect the climate in the (quite near) future, not only in temperate northern Europe, but globally...

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    With unprecedented heat waves and record-breaking global temperatures, it’s hard to believe that there might be a place on earth that has actually COOLED since the industrial revolution. But, it turns out, there is such a spot. The COLD BLOB off of Greenland mystified scientists for years, but new studies have uncovered a scary reality - this cool patch might be a warning of the impending collapse of a vital earth circulation system. And the consequences would be dire.
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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    Bumping this thread with a new report. It's a technical paper from Tongji University in China, and may not be that easy for everyone to read, but it's well worth posting here for the record. (One of the comments states that NASA has confirmed the data on their website.)

    https://scitechdaily.com/antarcticas-astonishing-rebound-ice-sheet-grows-for-the-first-time-in-decades

    Antarctica’s Astonishing Rebound: Ice Sheet Grows for the First Time in Decades

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    Default Re: The Arctic is melting, the Antarctic is freezing. What does this mean?

    More on the above:

    REPORT: Antarctica reverses trend and gains ice for the first time in decades, according to a new study published by Science China Earth Sciences.

    Researchers say from 2021-2023, the Antarctic Ice Sheet saw a record-breaking mass *gain.* Tongji University researchers say satellite gravimetry data shows that from 2011 to 2020, the Antarctic Ice Sheet lost 142 gigatons of ice per year.

    That trend flipped between 2021 and 2023 when the ice sheet allegedly gained about 108 gigatons of ice per year. Most of the gains are in East Antarctica. Scientists say much of the gains are linked to precipitation patterns, which could be temporary.


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