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    Default Re: Zahi Hawass Storms out of debate with Graham Hancock

    Hilarious !!

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    Default Re: Zahi Hawass Storms out of debate with Graham Hancock

    This is a interesting recent interview in person and they talk about
    the background and hostility given to him and Graham Hancock
    starting back in the 1990's and compliments the interviews above,,,,,


    Egyptologist Robert Bauval on his Fight Against Mainstream Historians
    April 2015




    Published on 17 Apr 2015


    What were the ancients trying to tell us when they built the Great Pyramids and the Sphinx ?
    If Robert Bauval, author of 2004: Talisman: Sacred Cities, Secret Faith (with Graham Hancock).
    2006: The Egypt Code, 2010: The Master Game (with Graham Hancock) 2011: Black Genesis:
    The Prehistoric Origins of Ancient Egypt (with Thomas Brophy) 2012: Breaking the Mirror of
    Heaven (with Ahmed Osman) 2013: Imhotep in Africa : Architect of the Cosmos (with Thomas
    Brophy) 2014: The Vatican Heresy: Bernini and the building of the Hermetic Temple of the Sun
    (with Chiara Hohenzollern) 2014: Egypt Unveiled: The Quest for Maat (with Ahmed Osman), is
    right, we might be on the verge of finding out. Bauval presents on the astronomical significance
    of these structures. Bauval is both fascinating and wildly funny as he takes jab after well-deserved
    jab at the Egyptological establishment, which ignores his work and that of coauthor Graham
    Hancock. You'll learn of the importance of the constellation Orion and other celestial formations to
    the Egyptians as well as the other postulated highly advanced culture that came before them and
    left their legacy in these enormous monuments. The data Bauval presents seems striking.

    Robert Bauval was born in Egypt in 1948. In 1989 he published a study which proposed that the
    layout of the three Giza Pyramids and their relative position to the Nile was intended to mirror the
    layout of the three stars in Orion's belt and their relative position to the Milky Way. This thesis,
    now known as the 'Orion Correlation Theory', became the subject of his first book, The Orion
    Mystery. Bauval is presently working on a new book, Sirius Rising, which will track the influence
    of the Egyptian star-goddess Sopdet (Sirius) from prehistoric times to the early Christian era,
    with special focus on her role in the rebirth cult and temple rituals and alignments.
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    Default Re: Zahi Hawass Storms out of debate with Graham Hancock

    another video from the same conference, this time hawass is a little more nice because of the audience i guess

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    Capricorn Radio

    Episode 268 - Robert Bauval - Hancock vs Hawass Analysis

    No need for a synopsis (I feel) for the title is self-explanetory!

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    Thanks Star Tsar I've been waiting to hear Roberts response to the Hancock vs Hawass Analysis ' spatt' ...LOL....

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    There is not much up about the confrontation , but this chap is a mainstream
    idiot LOL. Listen to his views and straight from the start he has not realised the
    tantrum was about Robert Bauval. If this is how he studies archaeology he
    is sadly missing the point. I think he ought to listen to the U'tube properly
    before commenting !!!

    I like mainstream archaeology , and have watched virtually all the Time Team
    programmes and hundreds of historical and archaeological documentries over
    the years. Yet I like to think I'm open minded to all possibilities..LOL

    I remember a quote by Tony Robinson presenter of Time Team on the lines of,
    'Put three archaeologists in a room and you will get three different theories '.....





    Hawass Vs. Hancock - 'Old Guard Vs. Outsider'?

    Archaeosoup Productions

    Published on 27 Apr 2015


    This morning, I respond to a question posted on the Facebook page regarding the
    behaviour of Zahi Hawass towards Graham Hancock at a recent conference in Egypt.
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    Default Re: Zahi Hawass Storms out of debate with Graham Hancock

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    Default Re: Zahi Hawass Storms out of debate with Graham Hancock

    Oh now I understand where all the problem is with egyptology and the age of Sphinx ,

    the Sphinx does not talk to them ..or is she talking in riddles

    Or was it Siri inside the Sphinx , now in possession of Apple ?

    P.S. : I asked Siri how old is he . The answer : ''I'm old enough to be your assistant ''

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    Default Re: Zahi Hawass Storms out of debate with Graham Hancock

    The latest on Egyptian pyramids ..

    http://ewao.com/a/1-researchers-disc...-great-pyramid

    Researchers discover what was located on top of the Great Pyramid

    Quote The investigations of renowned Spanish architect Miguel Pérez-Sánchez that lasted over ten years, enabled him to rebuild via computer models, with great accuracy, the pyramid of Cheops and determine that it was "crowned" by a sphere of 2 meters in diameter.

    Pérez Sánchez announced his discovery in a publication of a book containing his doctoral thesis where he explained: "the pyramid of Cheops, according to analysis, shows that it was an encyclopedia of knowledge at that time."
    The Great Pyramid, the most important building of the Old Kingdom, was the first of the 7 Wonders of the Ancient World and it is the only one that remains standing today, devoid of its original coating blocks of white limestone and lacking its summit which gave the pyramid another 9 meters in height. Now researchers know the exact shape of the object placed on top of the pyramid.


    The sphere located at the top of the pyramid, as proposed by Pérez-Sánchez, symbolized the Eye of Horus and had a diameter of 2,718 royal cubits (2.7 meters), which is the accurate measure of the number e.

    The sphere located on the Pyramid was proportionate with the Sun and Sirius, the brightest star in the sky, which was associated with Isis.

    Pérez-Sánchez had the support of a multidisciplinary team in his investigation, which allowed them to draw the pyramid on computer with an accuracy of 4 decimals (3.1416) representing "100 times the usual precision in architecture".

    The three-dimensional drawing of the Great Pyramid has revealed its original measurements, analyzing it has allowed researchers to understand the historical significance of the monument. In addition of the sphere located on top of the pyramid, missing today, analysis enabled researchers to find out the inclination angle 51,84º, the platform that supported the sphere with a pi perimeter of royal cubits; and the height of the pyramidal vertex of 277 778 cubits, equal to the quotient of dividing 1,000,000 between 3,600. According to Pérez-Sánchez, the discovery of the original shape and dimensions of the Great Pyramid, its reconstruction and analysis has revealed an architecture made of pure mathematics, geometry, geodesy and astronomy.


    The original surface of the pyramid, now in ruins, was 100,000 times the number pi (π) 3000 years ahead of the understanding of π.

    The ancient Egyptians that planned the Pyramid had an incredible scientific knowledge, understanding the Pythagorean Theorem two millennia ahead of time, a precision in the definition of pi with 6 decimals 3 millennia ahead of its time, including the knowledge of the number e, and the accurate measures of the Earth, Sun and Sirius anticipated over 4 millennia.

    The geodesic dependence of the Great Pyramid has been confirmed by scaling relations based on the sexagesimal system: The planetary meridian can be obtained as 43,200 times the perimeter of the base in contact with the ground; the polar radius as 43,200 times the total height of the monument, and the average perimeter of the Earth as 21,600 times the total perimeter of the base. "

    Thanks to the astronomical data provided by Plutarch, researchers managed to place the incredible monument in its historical context understanding why Pharaoh Khufu had commissioned these incredible projects.

    This is believed to be the reason thy, Snefru, father of Khufu, built during his reign, three pyramids in search for the "perfect pyramid" which explains the efforts of the architects of the Pyramid, to include within the Great Pyramid, their knowledge of the past.

    More importantly, Pérez-Sánchez mentions the great Sphinx in his work, stating that "the Great Sphinx is not contemporary with the pyramids that surround it, but it is the product of a much earlier civilization that shaped and carved it around the eight millennium BC.



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    The Joe Rogan Experience - 2321 - Dr. Zahi Hawass
    1 hour 58 minutes - Posted May 14, 2025

    Show notes
    Dr. Zahi Hawass is an archaeologist, Egyptologist, lecturer, and former Egyptian Minister of Antiquities. See him live during his Grand Lecture Tour across North America as he presents the latest groundbreaking discoveries made in Egypt. To check all 33 dates and locations and to register, visit www.ZahiLectures.com


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    Default Re: Zahi Hawass Storms out of debate with Graham Hancock

    Note the info underlined and in bold letters:
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    This last episode barely touches on the alleged new discoveries under the pyramids, but is mostly a rehashing of a lot of formerly connected dots having to do with the pyramids, Atlantis, Steiner, Edgar Cayce, etc.
    But something new to me, at least, was discussed starting at 49 minutes into the video, where DJ discusses two leading Egyptologists Zahi Hawass and Mark Lehner, who have attempted to discredit everything that Cayce (and several current researchers such as Graham Hancock, Robert Schoch, Robert Bauval, etc. ) have said about the pyramids being much older than current archeology will admit to.
    Even though Hawass and Lehner early in their careers were close associates with and were actually beneficiaries of the A.R.E.(Association for Research and Enlightenment) the organization in Virginia Beach, which is all about Cayce' information, and the A.R.E. actually paid for their educations!

    I don't know how I missed that very interesting facet, but it adds another element of mystery to the whole scenario.
    ( I think it's clear that Hawas is a shill, paid to cover up a lot of things the Egyptian government doesn't want known, and to discredit those like Schoch, Foerster, Bauval, Osmanagich (and Hancock too, though he's not an archeologist) who are uncovering the truth.
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    The Joe Rogan Experience - 2321 - Dr. Zahi Hawass
    1 hour 58 minutes - Posted May 14, 2025

    Show notes
    Dr. Zahi Hawass is an archaeologist, Egyptologist, lecturer, and former Egyptian Minister of Antiquities. See him live during his Grand Lecture Tour across North America as he presents the latest groundbreaking discoveries made in Egypt. To check all 33 dates and locations and to register, visit www.ZahiLectures.com

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    Default Re: Zahi Hawass Storms out of debate with Graham Hancock

    Just reading the guy's 'energy' is more than enough to reach that conclusion.

    Rogan hides his quite well behind his interactive sophistication but he's pretty dodgy too, and his platform has served a huge number of shills.
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    Zahi is a gatekeeper to make sure all that is found fits into their boxed in view of the way things are nice and neatly. If it doesn't fit into the paradigm they hide it away in some storage shelf in a closet or a basement in a museum never to be seen again! Everything must fit into the pre-established boxed in view of the universe all those of his ilk stand for. They are not about to do away with a career of telling and teaching one thing only to have some new discovery come in and muck up 30 or more years worth of their work and their thesis and all they've taught the students. No way no how, you see? To these people a new discovery is a threat to their paradigm not something to be excited over. You know it's crooked when they have not even broken ground yet and the guy can stand there and tell you in detail what they expect to find, how it will all fit together with the other finds and more and they haven't even stuck a shovel in the ground.
    The genius consistently stands out from the masses in that he unconsciously anticipates truths of which the population as a whole only later becomes conscious! Speech-circa 1937

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