The Assassination attempts on D J Trump

[thepainterdoug]

I was going to do a poll on this but then opted to hear comments

Do you believe the shooting of D J Trump, bullet grazing his ear, to be a true as shown and told event?

If so, please give reasons ? evidence and intuitions etc

If not? please give reasons, evidence and intuitions etc

[Flash]

True or not, it substantialky increased his megalomania, help by his gang of silicon valley oligarch, his dictatorship ways, probably thinking that he has been blessed by God himself, which would be the derive of such a sociopath (Staline thought the same as well as Hitler, Ceasar, Banana republic heads such as North Korea, or Putin, name it). So now he feels free to dictate without congress consultation anything he wants and to rejoice in poor regular folks reactions (Those against as well as those for).

This will destroy the USA better than any ultra corrupt democrats could have done. And it will bring down the rest of the world with him

INSTEAD OF installing cooperation and true commerce with his allies and others. Spiritually is a degenerate, my opinion.

[ExomatrixTV]

If I show you evidence of a model Boeing747 can be used to fake a 747 footage and/or using CGI (and the latest advanced A.I. special effects tools) and it worked so well that most can be fooled that way ... does that mean ALL pictures & footages of a 747 in the sky are "suspect fake" now, because of this new gained insight?

• How long before we realize they can literarily fake anything nowadays in such a manner that the vast majority will fall for it ...but the question remains, does that mean ANYTHING is "suspect fake"?

And if so ... how should we engage if anything could be a deception EVEN if it is not! >>> meaning, the way we deal with real things nowadays has been overshadowed by excessive assumptions & excuses NOT to deal with anything the "normal" way anymore. I wonder how (this shift or transition in) mass psychology effect is called!

It is always healthy to be highly skeptical about anything controversial, BUT when it is used as a means to divert/use excuses/justify inactions etc. etc. What kind of society will we become ... knowing it was/is already bad to begin with, having countless examples of that.

• Some have a deep-rooted fear to be fooled >>> so great, that they become victim of anxiety attacks, acting more and more illogical & counterproductive.

We already had a totally messed up society ... it seems it will only get worse when it comes to accountability!

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳✔

[JackMcThorn]

Could be a mind control psyop.

What is interesting is the delay in secret service and law enforcement response. They were a cluster at the time; and if they responded in due time based on some civilian observer's reports, the shooter might never have got a shot off.

With mind control, those people, the shooter, and the president could all be manipulated like puppets to a fraction of a second.

But no one wants to talk about it [mind control]; for some reason [I think people don't want it to be true]. But I think there is something foul about the incident - something un-natural.

[bojancan]

I am thinking... that despite the shooter’s identity being released... and we knew fast enough... one major conspiracy adopted by both the political left and right... is that the assassination attempt was staged or planned... talking with friends.. the same point of views in many occasions... but who is supposed to have staged it?
This is still up for debate I think... depending on which online circles you are... for sure!

Very interesting article.. from Sept, 2024

How social media assassination conspiracies are uniting pro- and anti-Trump voters

Wild Mother - the online alias of a woman called Desirée - lives in the mountains of Colorado, where she posts videos to 80,000 followers about holistic wellness and bringing up her little girl. She wants Donald Trump to win the presidential election.

About 70 miles north in the suburbs of Denver is Camille, a passionate supporter of racial and gender equality who lives with a gaggle of rescue dogs and has voted Democrat for the past 15 years.
The two women are poles apart politically - but they both believe assassination attempts against Mr Trump were staged.

Their views on the shooting in July and the apparent foiled plot earlier this month were shaped by different social media posts pushed to their feeds, they both say.
I travelled to Colorado - which became a hotbed of conspiracy theories about the 2020 election being stolen - for the BBC Radio 4 podcast Why Do You Hate Me? USA. I wanted to understand why these evidence-free staged assassination theories seemed to have spread so far across the political spectrum and the consequences for people like Camille and Wild Mother.

Dozens of evidence-free posts I found suggesting both incidents were staged have racked up more than 30 million views on X. Some of these posts came from anti-Trump accounts that did not seem to have a track record of sharing theories like this, while a smaller share were posted by some of the former president’s supporters.

For Democrat Camille, Trump’s team orchestrated this to boost his chances of winning the election.
Wild Mother - who already follows QAnon, the unfounded conspiracy theory which claims Donald Trump is involved in a secret war against an elite cabal of Satan-worshipping paedophiles - wants to believe Trump’s own team staged the attack in order to frame his supposed enemies in the "Deep State".

The Deep State is claimed to be a shadowy coalition of security and intelligence services looking to thwart certain politicians.
There is no evidence to support either of the women’s theories.

More :

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvglm0rjy2go

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
I was going to do a poll on this but then opted to hear comments

Do you believe the shooting of D J Trump, bullet grazing his ear, to be a true as shown and told event?

If so, please give reasons ? evidence and intuitions etc

If not? please give reasons, evidence and intuitions etc

I believe a bullet grazed his ear, but, the narrative of told event is basically just full of holes and mostly BS.

But, I do think Cash Patel (and likely also Tulsi Gabbard) is going to break this whole event wide open and arrests will be made relating to accomplices and conspiracy to commit murder, etc.

Personally I think Patel (and some others) already have a lot of this information and evidence of a conspiracy to assassinate Trump and are just waiting to have all their ducks in a row so to speak before acting on it.

I believe it's very likely some members of the FBI, DHS, Secret Service, Local LE, and perhaps even members of the Congress and or Senate will be arrested and charged.

This will be one of the the biggest stories/scandals since the JFK assassination, even bigger than the USAID scandal.

This may actually be Trumps ace in the hole to do some massive swamp draining!

[Bassplayer1]

I have no idea really, only my gut instinct and something felt off. I don't recall him having that piece of gauze on for that long. Are there images after showing a scab or a scar? Then there was the perfect timing of the perfect front page image on Time Magazine! I know my questions are very simple, but it's enough without going through lots of analysis and frame-by frame footage. At the time I did't want to jump to any conclusions, but since the staggering insanity and insensitivity of DJ Trump's intention of taking over Gaza, displacing who is left of the Palestinians and turning it into a 5 star riviera for the rich and expecting Saudi Arabia to pay for the construction makes me think that its possible that the shooting was a staged event. I can't believe I'm even saying this. Anything is possible during these weird times.

Anyway, some say that all of this is only an act to expose the demonic system. Who knows? I'm a bit tired of our minds being pushed around. We just want the truth!

[Michel Leclerc]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
If you show you evidence of a model Boeing747 can be used to fake a 747 footage and/or using CGI (and the latest advanced A.I. special effects tools) and it worked so well that most can be fooled that way ... does that mean ALL pictures & footages of a 747 in the sky are "suspect fake" now, BECAUSE of this new gained insight?

• How long before we realize they can literarily fake anything nowadays in such a manner that the vast majority will fall for it ...but the question remains, does that mean ANYTHING is "suspect fake"?

And if so ... how should we engage if anything could be a deception EVEN if it is not! >>> meaning, the way we deal with real things nowadays has been overshadowed by excessive assumptions & excuses NOT to deal with anything the "normal" way anymore. I wonder how (this shift or transition in) mass psychology effect is called!

It is always healthy to be highly skeptical about anything controversial, BUT when it is used as a means to divert/use excuses/justify inactions etc. etc. What kind of society will we become ... knowing it was already bad to begin with, having countless examples of that.

• We already had a totally messed up society ... it seems it will only get worse when it comes to accountability!

Some have a deep-rooted fear to be fooled >>> so great, that the become victim of anxiety attacks, acting more and more illogical & counterproductive.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳✔

So true John. I used to live by the rule of thumb “You are trustworthy until proven otherwise”. That worked – not without bumps and bruises but satisfactorily. Now it seems (to me) that younger generations have become convinced that "reality" "is a simulation" (this theory being their "metaphysical"/"scientific"justification for their "ethical stance”), in which simulated things/events are henceforward indistinguishable from real things/events — and they then live by the rule of thumb: "all people simulate, so I simulate; everything is a game: the one who gets caught loses”.

One might call this new social ”consensus” simulationism.

[Michel Leclerc]

Doug, I would tend to think – on the basis of the new "simulationist" reality (as an artist you may appreciate my wink towards situationism) – that the highest probability is with a number of attempts having occurred to take Donald Trump‘s life – even if the most famous one were simulated. (Such a simulation from the “Trump camp” having been a psychological operation to trap the opponent side – for instance.)

While Charles De Gaulle was president of France, a number of attempts at his life occurred and we heard about a few back in my childhood and adolescence’s Belgium. I later learned that they had been (mostly?) attempted by the US secret services and run into the dozens. Maybe a few of them were also “faked” as psychological operations by the French secret services to provoke and unmask potential killer cells.

[rgray222]

My take on this is that if you support Trump you are likely to believe that the assassination attempt was real.
If you don't support Trump you're likely to say it was contrived to win an election.
If you think the idea of The United States of America is worth saving then you more than likely believe that the attempt on Trump's life was real.
If you lean left and believe that Socialism Llte, Socialism, Communism or Marxism is the road you want the world travelling on then you think the Trump assassination attempt was faked.
If you are against Globalism then there were two very real attempts on Trump's life.
If you have a globalist slant then you think Trump planned and got away with a devious plot which only a narcissistic megalomaniac could get away with.

[thepainterdoug]

Flash quite the opposite. But thanks for your opinion. As with mine, they are opinions. And quite funny in my view. Hes a business man and one who displays common sense logic.
He floats things out there sees what comes back and then negotiates. And BTW Trudeau is doing a pretty good job on his own corrupt self.

John, as Mae West said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Just because things can be faked, doesn't mean they are. Many people tell me my paintings are just blown up photos. Well not so, But then again, you would need to believe me. Didnt we deploy fake blow up army tanks to deceive Germany as to the size of our forces?
cheers my friend!

Jack/ all on the table. Im not sure, alot would have to be faked and hold up from every angle. i would imagine the deep state lib commie dems would smoke it out. Their lives depend on it!

bojacan/ Im not sold on any side. Same as the moon landing. How could it be faked? well I think I know, but so many factors would have to be covered

Silent Feathers/ . the big game is run by very big rich and powerful people. But I also think they need to take heed of the masses to some extent. As Jim Morrison siad, they got the guns, but we got the numbers...
Trump is making perfect sense so far in my opinion. Took a long time to get here.What do people want or expect?

Bassplayer/ yeah I hear you. Well we have all looked back at the events in history and we realize most of them were fallacies. Im willing to give Trump a good 6 months to a year to see the results. America is a land of rules,and laws . Sort of like a private golf course, however everyone can join if you do it by process of the laws. That doesnt mean you are equal, because no one is.
Can you imagine a private golf course you belonged to and some group skipped along , hitting divits, puking on the ground and disregarding the other members? NOPE.
All I am saying... , is give common sense a chance...

Michael, again its all on the table. Im not sold on anything, even the alleged victims in the stands that day. I was raised on the show, Mission Impossible, where every amazing op was faked and pulled off.


rgray22, you summed it up I guess. However I like and support Trump only as it is a reaction to what has come before. BIDEN HARRIS? unlivable.! pathetic !
Nothing exists in a vaccum. We are here and need to deal with the reality.
If we deployed fake blowup Tanks in order to win a bull**** war? than fine it worked!

thanks everyone!!

and let me add, we are all on the outside, pecking away on or keyboards. Does anyone really know and understand these people who step up, and invite the most critical scrutiny? These people do it! Trump is up earlier and in 3 countries before most of us get up. He is the most amazing people I have ever witnessed , even if he is not so called good. The fact that he has a family, and they have family and he is an American who loves his country, and I believe he does, than Im going with that. And btway, the choice? Biden Harris? sorry but no way

[thepainterdoug]

Hey all, Ill run this past everyone again. Now that we aired out some feelings and opinions on DJT. I wanted to try to keep this to, do you believe the event was real or staged? , and if so what compelling evidence do you have? Not do you hate or like trump. Evidence?

most all of you now I support Trump, voted for him, and especially in regards to the option. Even Colonel Douglas Macgregor who sees problems with DJT stated he voted for him because there was no choice.

But with that, I haven't felt right about the event. Im not saying I know, and I certainly do not have evidence of it being faked, however I hasn't felt right with me.

The most obvious thing I can point to , silly as it sounds was the big billboard size bandaid on his ear. Was more like an add for, hey I got shot

added/ I also felt that the prior election was stolen, saw plenty of evidence for that, and felt the republicans would have ample motive to make sure it went right this time.

[norman]

Since you asked, I think we've been watching a massive ( global ) military operation that used psyops against the biggest psyop of all.

It's us or them. There's no grey wriggle room in the middle, and the swords have finally clashed.

Read what you want from that, but remember it's still ongoing so don't do anything stupid. The heat isn't even full on yet.

[jaybee]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Hey all, Ill run this past everyone again. Now that we aired out some feelings and opinions on DJT. I wanted to try to keep this to, do you believe the event was real or staged? , and if so what compelling evidence do you have? Not do you hate or like trump. Evidence?

most all of you now I support Trump, voted for him, and especially in regards to the option. Even Colonel Douglas Macgregor who sees problems with DJT stated he voted for him because there was no choice.

But with that, I haven't felt right about the event. Im not saying I know, and I certainly do not have evidence of it being faked, however I hasn't felt right with me.

The most obvious thing I can point to , silly as it sounds was the big billboard size bandaid on his ear. Was more like an add for, hey I got shot

added/ I also felt that the prior election was stolen, saw plenty of evidence for that, and felt the republicans would have ample motive to make sure it went right this time.

I wasn't going to give this thread any attention but now I feel the need to....

re the bolded above - I'm sorry Doug but I have to agree with you... ....that DOES sound silly - wasn't it about 3 - 4 centimetres square and wouldn't the ear be a bit of a tricky place to put a plaster or bandage - AND - if you've been shot well you've been shot (although it might have been more of a deep graze than a hole or a tear? not sure)

I don't think FOR ONE SECOND that it was a fake assassination attempt - I'm very sure it was real - but there could be aspects of it that cause a bit of confusion - not that it wasn't a serious attempt to blow Trump's brains out - but the whole story of who was where and what role Crooks played has blurred the full picture - for example the whole Crooks thing and his position could be misdirection - I have instinctively felt that the bullet that nearly killed Trump came from the other direction - but everyone's attention was successfully drawn to Crooks and the bullets coming from that direction were, I believe, the bullets that killed and injured bystanders at the rally - I've looked at a map and there's a building that I think the bullet meant to kill Trump could have come from - in the opposite direction - but that's just my own little investigation -

I certainly can't provide evidence....hard evidence... but circumstantial evidence can be used in a court of law and there's plenty of that - ie. what 'they' wanted to stop Trump doing with the bullet - and we are seeing now what THAT was.... exposing all the corruption and theft and dismantling the financing and apparatus of the Deep State - even wanting to cut military spending in HALF....imagine how THAT proposal is going down with the Military Industrial Complex...he (Trump) was controlled from within a lot during his first term but this time it's different - he has said himself he was learning how Washington DC worked and trusted people he shouldn't have trusted -

He didn't need to risk all the trust and support he had built up with a ridiculous fake assassination attempt - why would he.... ? ..... we can be very sure the MSM anti Trump propaganda machine would have exposed a fake assassination attempt had there been one -

It's pretty obvious his enemies wanted him dead and still do....god only knows they have built up the hatred against him to such a degree people have gone mental with it (TDS) they will have listened to just about every word he has said and recorded it all, in the last 8 - 10 years unless he has his own SCIF facility and went into it for the most important conversations - but I have the feeling he probably just thought - 'to hell with it - I can't live like a victim and will say what I want..' - so the criminal Deep State knew what was coming and tried to stop it - but didn't succeed - they would have tried to rig the last election but they just couldn't do enough to stop the victory - they almost managed to f*** up the mid terms and stop a Republican (Trump supporting) majority in the House and Senate - but again they just couldn't quite do enough to pull it off....

So.... there you go.... I'll stop there.... but will just add that I believe him surviving the Assassination Attempt was a miracle.... meant to be - and thank God he turned his head at exactly the right moment -

[thepainterdoug]

Jaybee I gotta go with you on this. I think the confusion for us all is that it was truth and real, with some acting and illusion added. Sort of like pro wrestling where guys are getting tossed around and often hurt, you see it real in front of your eyes and yet its not real in the way we think of real.

remember, trump worked with the WWW . So maybe a trick or two from there??

In many ways we are operating on the cusp of reality today.

[jaybee]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Jaybee I gotta go with you on this. I think the confusion for us all is that it was truth and real, with some acting and illusion added. Sort of like pro wrestling where guys are getting tossed around and often hurt, you see it real in front of your eyes and yet its not real in the way we think of real.

remember, trump worked with the WWW . So maybe a trick or two from there??

In many ways we are operating on the cusp of reality today.

Here's the thing.......

You're not going with me 'on this' if you think Trump colluded in a Fake Assassination Attempt -

To clarify - I think what happened at the Butler Rally was an 100% genuine attempt to assassinate Trump - and he very nearly died....

edit to add..... maybe I misunderstood your reply and you think the Assassination Attempt was real but Trump was hamming it up in some way...?

[thepainterdoug]

jaybee, Well I am I on your side i believe. For many reasons. But i have learned to keep one foot on the fence. I feel this large flat bandaid would not have been given to anyone else. Not a young guy who had a similar incident. i feel it was a visual aid for the press and people. That is not to say I dont believe it happened.
Hey, he may have been advised to do so. I dont know

[ExomatrixTV]

• Alex Jones RIPS Bongino & Kash For Covering Up Trump Assassination!:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ul7E-9n0__E

“They’re making fools out of themselves.” That’s how Alex Jones described the performance by onetime MAGA darlings Kash Patel and Dan Bongino since they took over the top two spots at the FBI, not only over the duo’s adoption of the “Epstein killed himself” line but also for asserting that the Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt was carried out by a sole gunman acting alone.

While Jones and other pro-Trump influencers have insisted that the government is covering up information on the two Trump assassination attempts, Bongino basically shrugged and said he didn’t really have anything new to share with Bartiromo.

“I’m not going to tell people what they want to hear. I’m going to tell you the truth,” he sighed. “And whether you like it or not is up to you. If there was a big explosive ‘there’ there – we would have told you.”

Jimmy and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss why it’s actually a GOOD thing that Patel and Bongino are turning out to be such disappointments to MAGA.