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    Default Re: Evidence for Planet Nine in our solar system

    See here: Recoiled Sea Tide - Phenomenon called Dry Tide

    ... among other possibilities:

    Initially reposted there ---> (here)
    Quote Do we have an alternate, more simple explanation for the massive mangrove die-off? Maybe its something just overlooked.
    It's called uplifting...

    From here:
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    As for "sea level," see this post here: Rising Sea Level and the Coming Coastal Crisis 2015 where, depending on one's choice for a reference frame, one could as well scream this kind of Doom-&-Gloom sort of headlines:

    "Holy sh**! WHERE did all the Water GO!?"


    © Vasiliki Mouslopoulou, GFZ Scientists look for remnants of paleo shorelines on western Crete. Red and blue arrows indicate paleo shorelines formed during the last 2,000 years and are today elevated up to 8 meters (26 feet).
    [click on picture for larger view]

    ... because land masses do subside or crop up mostly due to geotectonics but also from man-made interferences: Sinking Grounds... Not Rising Waters.

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    Default Re: Evidence for Planet Nine in our solar system

    Decidedly odd


    It might be lingering bashfully on the icy outer edges of our solar system, hiding in the dark, but subtly pulling strings behind the scenes: stretching out the orbits of distant bodies, perhaps even tilting the entire solar system to one side.
    If a planet is there, it's extremely distant and will stay that way (with no chance -- in case you're wondering -- of ever colliding with Earth, or bringing "days of darkness").It is a possible "Planet Nine" -- a world perhaps 10 times the mass of Earth and 20 times farther from the sun than Neptune. The signs so far are indirect, mainly its gravitational footprints, but that adds up to a compelling case nonetheless.
    One of its most dedicated trackers, in fact, says it is now harder to imagine our solar system without a Planet Nine than with one.


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    Default Re: Evidence for Planet Nine in our solar system

    10th Planet Discovered

    Astronomers have found a new planet in the outer reaches of the solar system.

    July 29, 2005: "It's definitely bigger than Pluto." So says Dr. Mike Brown of the California Institute of Technology who announced today the discovery of a new planet in the outer solar system.



    "The planet, which hasn't been officially named yet, was found by Brown and colleagues using the Samuel Oschin Telescope at Palomar Observatory near San Diego. It is currently about 97 times farther from the sun than Earth, or 97 Astronomical Units (AU). For comparison, Pluto is 40 AU from the sun.


    This places the new planet more or less in the Kuiper Belt, a dark realm beyond Neptune where thousands of small icy bodies orbit the sun. The planet appears to be typical of Kuiper Belt objects--only much bigger. Its sheer size in relation to the nine known planets means that it can only be classified as a planet itself, Brown says."

    "Backyard astronomers with large telescopes can see the new planet. But don't expect to be impressed: It looks like a dim speck of light, visual magnitude 19, moving very slowly against the starry background. "It is currently almost directly overhead in the early-morning eastern sky in the constellation Cetus," notes Brown.

    The planet was discovered by, in addition to Brown, Chad Trujillo, of the Gemini Observatory in Mauna Kea, Hawaii, and David Rabinowitz, of Yale University, New Haven, Connecticut. They first photographed the new planet with the 48-inch Samuel Oschin Telescope on October 31, 2003. The object was so far away, however, that its motion was not detected until they reanalyzed the data in January of this year. In the last seven months, the scientists have been studying the planet to better estimate its size and its motions.

    "We are 100 percent confident that this is the first object bigger than Pluto ever found in the outer solar system," Brown adds."



    Right: The new planet, circled in white, moves across a field of stars on Oct. 21, 2003. The three photos were taken about 90 minutes apart. Image credit: Samuel Oschin Telescope, Palomar Observatory. [More]

    Telescopes have not yet revealed the planet's disk. To estimate how big it is, the astronomers must rely on measurements of the planet's brightness. Like all planets, this new one presumably shines by reflecting sunlight. The bigger the planet, generally speaking, the bigger the reflection. The reflectance, the fraction of light that bounces off the planet, is not yet known. Nevertheless, it is possible to set limits on the planet's diameter:

    "Even if it reflected 100 percent of the light reaching it, it would still be as big as Pluto," says Brown. Pluto is 1400 miles (2300 km) wide. "I'd say it's probably [about] one and a half times the size of Pluto, but we're not sure."

    The planet's temporary name is 2003 UB313. A permanent name has been proposed by the discoverers to the International Astronomical Union, and they are awaiting the decision of this body before announcing the name. Stay tuned!

    Link: https://science.nasa.gov/science-new.../29jul_planetx
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    Default Re: Evidence for Planet Nine in our solar system

    Planet X or 9 and 10 planets or X to the power of ten or how about a hundred?

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    WTH Is Going On? 7 TOP NASA Scientists Say There Are Over 100 Planets In Our Solar System

    Published 3rd November 2017

    7 Top NASA scientists say we actually have over 100 planets in our solar system. If the team’s version of planetary definition is indeed widely adopted it would greatly expand the number of planets in our solar system from the current eight to around 110.
    http://releases.jhu.edu/2017/03/16/s...planet-status/

    Most of us grew up learning that there are nine planets in our solar system. Back in 2006 that all changed, when Pluto was demoted from being labeled a proper planet to its new classification as a dwarf planet, leaving just eight true planets in our celestial neighborhood. Now, a group of scientists says Pluto should definitely be added back to the planet list — oh, and that there are over 100 other objects in our solar system that should also be called planets.

    Kirby Runyon of Johns Hopkins University headed a six-man team of authors from five different scientific bodies in preparing their own version of how planets should be classified. Their argument and supporting information displayed at the Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in Texas.
    https://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2017/

    The other authors are: S. Alan Stern and Kelsi Singer of the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado; Tod Lauer of the National Optical Astronomy Observatory in Tucson, Arizona; Will Grundy of the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, Arizona; Michael Summers of George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia.

    In their paper, the researchers insist that the factors that should define whether a celestial body is a planet or not should relate solely to the object itself rather than things like location.

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    Default Re: Evidence for Planet Nine in our solar system

    I would like to have some views of avalonians commenting the several pictures and videos of TWO Suns on the sky.

    I offer some evidence here:

    https://www.facebook.com/TransicaoPl...type=3&theater

    https://www.facebook.com/TransicaoPl...desEscondidas/

    Second post of this facebook page you will find a video filmed in the far east, I think it was in India, and the 12th post there is a picture taken in city of BAURU-SP Brazil with two suns on the sky.


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    I would like to have some views of avalonians commenting the several pictures and videos of TWO Suns on the sky.

    I offer some evidence here:

    https://www.facebook.com/TransicaoPl...type=3&theater

    https://www.facebook.com/TransicaoPl...desEscondidas/

    Second post of this facebook page you will find a video filmed in the far east, I think it was in India, and the 12th post there is a picture taken in city of BAURU-SP Brazil with two suns on the sky.


    Thank you,

    Kind Regards,
    Welcome prc

    Bill has spoke on this many times saying if there were two suns, every amateur astronomer would see it 24/7 around the globe.

    I believe he is right.

    Bill Ryan 14th July 2010 10:58 Link to Post #20
    Re: Our second SUN!

    "There's 100% no chance that thousands of amateur astronomers, controlled by no-one, are going to sit quietly if a large astronomical object becomes visible to the naked eye anytime soon.

    There does seem to be a large object (a brown dwarf star) that the Controllers are very interested in, maybe somewhere round the orbit of Jupiter (ref Andy Lloyd and Bill Deagle), not visible to the naked eye and radiating in the infrared.

    There are good arguments that this would be coming in from the south (hence the recent investment in the South Pole Telescope). The poster of the photo does not say when or where it was taken, but I assume it was in the US or Canada, very recently.

    The thousands of amateur astronomers - many of whom frequently watch the sun (especially in the recent solar eclipse) are unlikely to miss something that was taken with a digital camera while watching a sunset.

    This is almost certainly a sundog (an unusual but not infrequent atmospheric effect).

    Here's a good image of the recent 11 July 2010 eclipse: there are no other large objects else there apart from the sun. Orbital mechanics would require that any large object like PX would still be there in the field of view... it wouldn't suddenly zip away and disappear."


    Maybe this may be of interest: Bill Ryan 13th July 2010 21:09 Link to Post #2
    Re: Our second SUN!

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ll=1#post34542

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    Quote Posted by prc (here)
    I would like to have some views of avalonians commenting the several pictures and videos of TWO Suns on the sky.
    Welcome prc

    Bill has spoke on this many times saying if there were two suns, every amateur astronomer would see it 24/7 around the globe.

    I believe he is right.
    Yep, I'm sure he is.

    Not only would every amateur astronomer in the world be screaming from the rooftops, these phone camera images have been presented as 'evidence' for years now... which suggests that if there really was a 'second sun' there, it's clearly not moving!

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    Question Re: Evidence for Planet Nine in our solar system

    • Woah! Potential Planet 9 Candidate Found In The Old Data - Could This Be It?

    Enigmatic Planet Nine may have been seen by telescope in the 1980s

    There is an ongoing debate about whether a huge "super-Earth" lurks in the far reaches of our solar system – but we may actually have observed it almost 40 years ago



    A map centred on the location of the Planet Nine candidate (red & green)
    Schlegel, Finkbeiner and Davis (1998)


    Evidence for a massive planet in the outer solar system has been found, which may be the elusive Planet Nine that astronomers have long sought.

    Planet Nine is a hypothesised world orbiting far beyond Neptune, in our solar system’s outer reaches. The gravitational clustering of some objects in the outer solar system suggests the presence of such a world, a super-Earth at least five times as massive as our planet, but no concrete evidence for it …

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    Exclamation Re: Evidence for Planet Nine in our solar system

    • New Evidence For The Existence Of Planet X

    As we learn new things about something, we start to believe we know a lot about it. But this isn’t often the case with space. Our Solar system is much, much bigger than you would expect, and you’d be surprised how little we know about it. But soon, with the launch of a next-generation telescope, that might change. Does this mean we would finally detect an elusive Planet 9? Will we find some other secrets our Solar system has stored for us? And would it all change the way we perceive our place in the cosmos?

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    Lightbulb Re: Evidence for Planet Nine in our solar system

    • New Evidence Found for Planet 9 with Konstantin Batygin:

    Does Planet Nine exist? At 5 Sigma, Konstantin Batygin, Mike Brown, and others have found the best evidence yet of it's existence.

    Generation of Low-Inclination, Neptune-Crossing TNOs by Planet Nine
    Injection of Inner Oort Cloud Objects Into the Distant Kuiper Belt by Planet Nine by Konstantin Batygin and Michael E. Brown
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    Default Re: Evidence for Planet Nine in our solar system

    • Astronomers Just Found Strongest Evidence of the Hidden Planet 9:

    Astronomers have found the strongest statistical evidence of Planet 9, the hidden planet of our solar system believed to be lurking in the outskirts of the solar system. The possibility of the existence of Planet 9 has long intrigued scientists. Some researchers believe it might have been a rogue planet captured by our Sun's gravity, while others think it could have formed from the same disk of gas and dust as the other planets. If Planet 9 exists, it is believed to be ten times more massive than Earth and orbit the Sun at a distance of 400 to 800 Astronomical Units, which is 400 to 800 times the distance between the Earth and the Sun.

    Astronomers have been eagerly hunting for clues, using powerful telescopes and advanced computer models to track its influence. After years of watching the sky, solving mathematical equations, and running complex computer simulations, they now have the strongest evidence yet that Planet 9 really exists. This discovery introduces an exciting plot twist in the story of the hidden planet.

    📝 REFERENCES:

    Generation of Low-Inclination, Neptune-Crossing TNOs by Planet Nine, Batygin et al (2024), The Astrophysical Journal: bit.ly/4c0A0gG

    Evidence for a Distant Giant Planet in the Solar System, Batygin and Brown (2016), The Astrophysical Journal: bit.ly/4efIxOx
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    Lightbulb Re: Evidence for Planet Nine in our solar system

    • Genius Astronomer Says He Found a New Planet—Is He Wrong?:

    Win Extraterrestrial Metal: join my mailing list 💥 briankeating.com/yt 💥 Astronomers have detected strange gravitational forces pulling at objects beyond Neptune. Some believe these forces could be caused by an undiscovered ninth planet—but if Planet 9 is real, why haven’t we found it yet? And if it doesn’t exist, what else could be shaping the outer edge of our solar system? Here today to explore this issue and reveal extraordinary new evidence of Planet 9, is none other than Konstantin Batygin, one of the world’s foremost experts in this field. A professor at Caltech, Konstantin specializes in planetary astrophysics, the formation and evolution of the solar system, orbital dynamics, exoplanet behavior, and the physics of planetary interiors and atmospheres. In this episode, he not only breaks down the latest evidence for Planet Nine but also shares his thoughts on the controversial discovery and why some say he is wrong. You will also hear his insights from his research on Jupiter’s magnetic field. Plus, Konstantin gave us exclusive permission to feature his lecture on these topics—an unmissable opportunity to learn from one of the best in the field!
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    Default Re: Evidence for Planet Nine in our solar system

    A new 'dwarf planet' has been found, and it seems that 'Planet Nine' may indeed be out there.
    Astronomers Discover New Dwarf Planet — and it Challenges the Planet Nine Hypothesis



    A new dwarf planet named 2017 OF201 has been discovered far beyond Neptune. It sits in a region previously thought to be empty. Its existence raises questions about the structure of our solar system and the hypothetical Planet Nine — a hidden, massive planet hiding somewhere out there in the outer reaches.

    The dwarf planet’s orbit is such an elongated ellipse that it takes around 25,000 years to make one orbit of our sun. At its closest, it sits approximately 6.66 billion kilometers away from the sun. At its furthest, it is a staggering 244 billion kilometers, about 54 times further away than Neptune. This giant orbit suggests that gravity from other massive bodies could be influencing it, possibly even a mysterious Planet Nine.

    This theory suggests that a large, unseen planet, about 5 to 10 times the mass of the Earth, lurks in the distant regions of the solar system. Its advocates believe that it is large enough to influence the orbit of objects beyond Neptune. The problem is that the orbit of 2017 OF201 does not align with the gravitational patterns predicted by the Planet Nine hypothesis. It orbits in a different direction from one that would be influenced by Planet Nine. However, some researchers pointed out that the study of 2017 OF201 only considers one specific orbit of Planet Nine in its calculations.

    The size of Pluto

    Astronomers estimate that 2017 OF201 is about 700 kilometers in diameter, similar to Pluto, the former planet reassigned to dwarf planet status in 2006. Because of its elongated orbit, it is visible from Earth for only brief periods, making further observations challenging.

    Planet Nine aside, the existence of this dwarf planet challenges the idea that the outer solar system has few sizeable objects in it. It is now likely that many more distant objects are out there, still detected. This would reshape our understanding of the solar system’s architecture.

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