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    Default Re: Chinese and anti-Chinese propaganda — what's the truth?

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    Thank you Michelle and Exomatrix, that is the question I ask as well.
    Chère amie Ravenlocke, je ne m’appelle pas Michelle mais Michel.

    Dear friend (in French the feminine form of “ami”), my name is not Michelle but Michel.

    Contrary to the myth that angels are neutered, which is wrong of course, archangels are actually quite potent beings.

    As for the angels being un-neutered, may I refer to the great French philosopher and utopist Charles Fourier, who in his Le Nouveau Monde Amoureux (The New Amorous World or The New World in Love), a little bit Swedenborg-like,but sexier!, proposes a world organised around hierarchies of anges (male angels) and angesses (female angels): angels and angelesses?

    Are you an angeless, Ravenlocke?

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    A fascinating watch, very much enjoyed it.

    This Chinese vehicle and drone innovation was especially fascinating.

    Name:  XPENG AEROHT Modular Flying Car.jpg
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    I spent half an hour dithering around with Google trying to find more information. Just the manufacturer would have been a start. Tried many search terms, and got nowhere.

    So I uploaded a screenshot to ChatGPT and asked it what it was. Score one for AI -- it answered immediately, and in detail. It identified the Chinese branding as "XPENG", and speculated this was the "XPeng AeroHT" from their flying car division, which it was.

    I entered XPeng AeroHT into Youtube, and voila.

    Here is the full video for anyone interested.

    XPENG AEROHT Modular Flying Car
    XPENG AEROHT
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    I would not be a bit surprised if China's XPENG AEROHT Modular Flying Car turns out to be a complete dud, like so much of the CCP's fake technology, plans stolen or copied for the most part from foreign countries, made to look great but not manufactured correctly so that in actuality, don't work anything like they should when they are made in China.
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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    Thank you Michelle and Exomatrix, that is the question I ask as well.
    Chère amie Ravenlocke, je ne m’appelle pas Michelle mais Michel.

    Dear friend (in French the feminine form of “ami”), my name is not Michelle but Michel.

    Contrary to the myth that angels are neutered, which is wrong of course, archangels are actually quite potent beings.

    As for the angels being un-neutered, may I refer to the great French philosopher and utopist Charles Fourier, who in his Le Nouveau Monde Amoureux (The New Amorous World or The New World in Love), a little bit Swedenborg-like,but sexier!, proposes a world organised around hierarchies of anges (male angels) and angesses (female angels): angels and angelesses?

    Are you an angeless, Ravenlocke?
    Dear Michel,

    Je suis vraiment désolé. Je ne voulait pas te faire de mal.

    Je comprend un peux de français, j’etudié le francais à l’école très longtemps.

    but my computer has a mind of its own and runs away with my spelling before I can catch it sometimes.

    Please forgive me for that big Faux Pas with your name.

    I would say I’m feminist rather than angeless (angesse)

    Thank you for bringing up Charles Fourier, I like the Wikipedia’s description of him.
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    Just a few of the more recent, numerous examples of China stealing and/or copying tech from other countries, or corrupt CCP official sponsoring the development of inferior tech simply for their own profit:

    China Fabricated J-20 Dogfight With U.S. Jets Ridiculed; Chief Designer Ousted
    China Observer
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    Jan 24, 2025
    "In recent years, corruption scandals involving the Chinese military and defense industry have come to light, with AVIC, a major producer of fighter jets, being hit especially hard. Following the dismissal of AVIC’s former chairman Tan Ruisong in August last year, the company’s general manager Hao Zhaoping and deputy general manager Yang Wei were removed from their positions on January 18. Yang Wei, known as the “Father of the J-20,” was its chief designer."


    Military-Linked China Firm Found Guilty: Stealing Motorola Intel
    China in Focus - NTD
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    19,842 views Premiered Jan 17, 2025
    A Chinese company linked to Beijing's military pleads guilty to stealing key technology from Motorola. We look at the concerns around the stealing.

    China’s Poor Weapon Quality:Drone Crashes, Submarine, Jet, Missile Export Orders Frequently Canceled
    China Observer
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    "The sustained decline in Chinese arms exports highlights significant gaps in quality, performance, and after-sales service compared to Western competitors. Chinese arms often suffer from frequent malfunctions and poor service, tarnishing their reputation."




    Following is a partial list of youtube channels that regularly report on current conditions in China.
    Just a glance at each will show how many and how current such reports are and the number of subjects covered.
    The addition of interviews and videos taken right in China etc. to the reports themselves clearly demonstrate they are not simply propaganda
    China in Focus:https://www.youtube.com/@ChinainFocusNTD
    China Observer: https://www.youtube.com/@ChinaObserver0
    Decoding China: https://www.youtube.com/@DecodingChina-News
    China Truths: https://www.youtube.com/@chinatruths
    Lei's Real Talk: https://www.youtube.com/@LeisRealTalk
    China Unscripted: https://www.youtube.com/@ChinaUnscripted
    China Insights: https://www.youtube.com/@chinainsights_channel
    China Fact Chasers: https://www.youtube.com/@ChinaFactChasers
    laowhy86:https://www.youtube.com/@laowhy86
    Serpentza:https://www.youtube.com/@serpentza
    The China Show:https://www.youtube.com/@TheChinaShow

    Here's an example showing Chinese elementary school children (not just in China) being taught to hate and practice using weaponry in combat against other nations.
    Something which most people would probably never believe is actually happening, but the video (one of many) is clear evidence:
    China Is Training U.S. KIDS to Be Little Soldiers for China. Here's HOW!
    China Insights
    366K subscribers
    Premiered Dec 6, 2024

    "What are Chinese kids learning in schools that makes them so passionate about taking over America? And how are American kids and other kids around the world getting caught up in the CCP’s education trap to turn them into overseas agents for the Party? Welcome to China Insights.
    Our videos are hosted by real people with real China experience and access to real insights happening in China today. No bots here!"
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    Ernie, I really wish I had not been proven right about this sort of thing so many times in the past.
    I would like nothing better than that the forum were never subject to any kind of doubtful information or practices.
    And I don't particularly enjoy serving as a kind of watchdog here, but if the members don't pitch in, the Mods get overwhelmed.
    If you think I am the only member who has similar concerns, you would be wrong.

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    The resident gaslighter strikes again...
    Another thread rendered biased
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    Unfortunately, the rampant propaganda in our world is hard to resist or to defend against. It takes 24/7 awareness. It requires real-time constant repudiation or else the lies accumulate in the sub-conscious - meaning that the lies work on the part of us that is not under our direct control. Nice thoughts, good intentions, even occasional smudging of the environment, is not enough to counter the programming. It has to be done continuously, all day, every day. Every time propaganda arrives at your eyes, or ears, or in your thoughts, it must be immediately corrected - it cannot be ignored or down-played. People might consider you negative for maintaining a constant vigilance of counter arguments and corrective internal monologue but it is the price one must pay for a clear mind and a free soaring spirit.
    I cannot be mind-controlled.
    You can do it too.
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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    Quote Posted by Strat (here)
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Ernie, I really wish I had not been proven right about this sort of thing so many times in the past.
    I would like nothing better than that the forum were never subject to any kind of doubtful information or practices.
    And I don't particularly enjoy serving as a kind of watchdog here, but if the members don't pitch in, the Mods get overwhelmed.
    If you think I am the only member who has similar concerns, you would be wrong.

    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    The resident gaslighter strikes again...
    Another thread rendered biased
    and unbalanced
    I got you Natalie. You're not alone.
    Unfortunately, the rampant propaganda in our world is hard to resist or to defend against. It takes 24/7 awareness. It requires real-time constant repudiation or else the lies accumulate in the sub-conscious - meaning that the lies work on the part of us that is not under our direct control. Nice thoughts, good intentions, even occasional smudging of the environment, is not enough to counter the programming. It has to be done continuously, all day, every day. Every time propaganda arrives at your eyes, or ears, or in your thoughts, it must be immediately corrected - it cannot be ignored or down-played. People might consider you negative for maintaining a constant vigilance of counter arguments and corrective internal monologue but it is the price one must pay for a clear mind and a free soaring spirit.
    I cannot be mind-controlled.
    You can do it too.
    Look in the mirror.

    Part of my way of life is to respect all people immediately, although trust is earned. I respected you a lot but you have totally lost all of that respect and now I put zero value in your cheap words. It's best we go our separate ways.
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    Poor little Strat. Sorry about your problems. It's okay, I don't measure my worth in your terms.

    To hate is easy...
    remember a few years back, it's all good

    love given, love taken away
    it is part of the human condition
    I'll survive.

    But, the feeling is not mutual.
    Have a good day.
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    Default Re: Chinese and anti-Chinese propaganda — what's the truth?

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    Poor little Strat. Sorry about your problems. It's okay, I don't measure my worth in your terms.

    To hate is easy...
    remember a few years back, it's all good

    love given, love taken away
    it is part of the human condition
    I'll survive.

    But, the feeling is not mutual.
    Have a good day.
    A useful reference may be this Avalon thread, which I posted a couple of years ago under The Human Condition:
    I'm very disappointed. I'd started this thread because I genuinely didn't know exactly what to think about China.

    I thought I might learn something myself that I could rely on, and could count on the members to help figure this all out in a dispassionate way — just as we all did so very well about covid, ivermectin, Ukraine, Russia/Putin, and many other topics fueled by media propaganda at every level.

    But no, that's not going to happen here. We'll keep the thread open, but I'll no longer be reading this thread or posting on it. It just doesn't seem worth the trouble.

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    https://x.com/angeloinchina/status/1883374166684139957

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    https://x.com/ShangguanJiewen/status...35489170169961

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    Pleasant or realistic...your choice....
    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    The other factor at play, though certainly less pleasant to consider, is that things have radically changed in China since 2012 when XiJinping became the ruler.
    And since visitors to China now are much more restricted, personal accounts of visits there since then will not really reflect present conditions realistically.
    Mod note from Bill:
    If you've not been to China, please don't post on this thread.

    The reason I started this new thread was to see if we could collect some propaganda-free direct personal experiences from sources I felt we could absolutely trust — i.e. Avalon members who have been there.

    At the moment, though the thread is only a few days old, I'm feeling I'm learning more about China from these extremely interesting posts than from any of the other China threads, which often feature articles, tweets or videos from people with strong opinions, or posted strong opinions from
    members themselves.

    The factor at play here is that while we are all entitled to our opinions (and to express them!), opinions — about anything at all — that aren't based on some degree of personal experience may have slightly less value.

    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://x.com/ShangguanJiewen/status...35489170169961

    Hmmmm....I wonder where the invasion of Tibet factors into that assessment and the CCP's ongoing oppression of Tibetans....
    I suppose the brutal war on the Uyghur people by the CCP within China's own borders doesn't count for anything either.
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    Chinese Firms at the Center of Serbia’s Political Crisis


    The collapse of Serbia’s Novi Sad train station roof last month killed 15 people and severely injured two others, igniting weeks-long, nationwide protests against government corruption that is widely perceived to be at the root of the tragedy. In the middle of the fray are two Chinese companies that were involved in recent renovations at the train station, which is a key stop along the Chinese-built Budapest-Belgrade Railway. Given the Serbian government’s enthusiastic embrace of Chinese investment under the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) and the general lack of transparency surrounding Chinese contracts, Serbian President Aleksandar Vucic and China’s ties with Serbia are now under pressure, especially given Vucic’s refusal to publicly release all contracts related to work at the train station. On Thursday, Jens Kastner at Nikkei Asia reported on the possible extent of Chinese companies’ responsibility for the incident:

    Notably missing is the contract the government signed with China Railway International Co. (CRIC) and China Communications Construction Co. (CCCC) on May 28, 2018, for all the work from Novi Sad to Kelebija, a village on the border with Hungary, according to the NGO [Transparency Serbia].

    The Novi Sad train station renovation was led by the two Chinese companies, which denied working on the canopy, saying it was constructed at the same time as the old station building. But footage on Serbian social media accounts suggest the collapse was caused by heavy glass recently installed on the canopy.

    their role is to serve as an umbrella contractor under a special agreement between Serbia and China that has confidentialitA Serbian civil engineer told Nikkei Asia that, legally, CRIC and CCCC may be right in their claim of not having carried out the work themselves, as their role is to serve as an umbrella contractor under a special agreement between Serbia and China that has confidentiality clauses for almost all contract articles.

    […] While the Chinese companies may not have conducted any work themselves on the canopy, they bear responsibility for subcontractors they use. [Source]
    In late November, Serbia’s construction minister and the director of Serbia’s state-run railway company were among 11 people arrested over the train station collapse. Both of them stepped down, but other top leaders such as Prime Minister Milos Vucevic, who was mayor of Novi Sad when construction started at the train station, remain in their posts. Days after the arrests, scuffles broke out in the Serbian parliament after opposition legislators raised banners accusing the ruling coalition of trying to shirk responsibility for the train station collapse. Over the past six weeks, students have occupied over 40 universities in Serbia in support of the anti-corruption movement, and the government announced early winter holidays to curtail protests.

    Nemanja Nenadic, Director of Transparency Serbia, told France24: “We are confronted with situations where the government directly violates anti-corruption rules. It calls them ‘Projects of National Importance,’ so no minister, neither the prime minister nor the president, would be sanctioned, even if they signed a contract with a company without competition or a tender, even for a contract worth a billion euros.” Serbia and China typically negotiate agreements on a government level without outside bidders, which leaves questions regarding quality, safety and financial sustainability. In a People’s Daily feature from May about China and Serbia deepening infrastructure cooperation, an “experienced engineer from Serbia” who has “supervised road construction projects for many foreign companies” said that the work done by Chinese builders is “more efficient.” But Milica Stojanovic at Balkan Insight described how these particularities of Chinese partnerships do not necessarily benefit the Serbian public:

    Yet when local Novi Sad broadcaster Radio 021 asked Serbia’s construction ministry in January to see the contract for the renovation, the ministry responded that the Chinese partner “does not agree that any data from the contract and related to the contract should be provided to third parties before the end of the project, that is, before receiving a certificate of a job well done”.

    Chinese investment in the Balkans has long been dogged by concerns over corruption, labour rights, environmental neglect and so-called debt-trap diplomacy in which China builds influence over indebted states. Serbia, for example, owes Export-Import Bank of China 2.75 billion euros for a total of 14 projects, plus a further 104.6 million to the Hungarian branch of Bank of China.

    Ivana Karaskova, China Research Fellow at the Prague-based Association for International Affairs, AMO, said that if such deals lack transparency, “then probably the conditions are not very favourable for the local populations”. [Source]
    On Friday, Serbian Foreign Minister Marko Djuric traveled to Tianjin to meet his Chinese counterpart Wang Yi, who according to a China Daily readout “welcomed Serbia to ride the ‘express train’ of China’s development and work together to achieve modernization.” Several days after November’s incident, Chinese Premier Li Qiang met with Serbian Prime Minister Milos Vucevic in Shanghai and said, “It is hoped that Serbia will continue to provide a sound business environment for Chinese enterprises to invest and do business in Serbia.” In May, Xi Jinping visited Serbia during his first trip to Europe in five years and received a red-carpet welcome. Serbia’s growing relationship with China has complicated its prospects for E.U. integration, as Douglas Brenton Anderson wrote this month for European Guanxi.


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    That situation in Serbia is just one of many similar incidents with other countries that regrettably signed on with the Belt and Road Initiative.
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    Did Deep Seek kill Suchir Balaji to get the training data to crash the market? George Webb thinks so and he blamed Deep Seek 3 weeks ago for the murder:



    If George is correct, then the US is at war.

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    hold onto your hats..... I don't know if this (video link below) belongs in this thread or another thread - but I'll put it here for now... propaganda or not....oh I don't know.... but suddenly everything seems to be hotting up regarding China v America regarding AI dominance and the recent release of China's Deep Seek AI Model...

    Mike Adams is on fire - ranting and pounding into - slamming into the West's 'Wokeism' and the threat it poses to the actual survival OF the West -

    I've listened to the first hour but I've had to have a rest...

    And listening to Mike I had to wonder if this is part of the Globalist's master plan - that they have done a deal with China...

    The 21st Century is already labelled as the Chinese Century ....

    Mike Adams is sounding a warning but at the same time saying it may already be too late (gulp)... he's saying what needs to happen but can Trump do enough in the time he has to stop a terminal decline in the West - and it is being said that the Stargate AI Project thing isn't going to do the trick...

    Mike is stressing that if China achieves 'Super Intelligence' soon which he thinks looks possible (likely)... well that's going to be extremely significant globally -

    You have to ask... what exactly did the Globalist Elite think was going to happen if you abandon meritocracy and stick lower IQ people into positions of power + influence... (aka the 'woke' and Joe Biden being the most obvious example of woke enabling from the top job) -


    Brighteon Broadcast News, Jan 28, 2025 – America will LOSE to China in the AI wars because WOKE IDIOCY and CENSORSHIP killed innovation (2:56:01)

    https://www.brighteon.com/d279c67a-8...d-6cacee0e82bb

    (it wouldn't embed so anyone interested can go to link above...)

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    Does anyone think this is anti-CCP propaganda? The story was largely covered by the BBC, also Wall Street Journal.
    Just FYI, the 3 Gorges Dam was also built on an earthquake fault, as many dams built by the CCP are.

    Tibet Quake Cracks 5 Dams! Big Dams Could Induce Further Quakes, Domino Effect on Three Gorges Dam
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    "On January 7 this year, a 6.8-magnitude earthquake struck Tingri County in Shigatse, Tibet, resulting in at least 126 deaths.
    After the earthquake, Liu Jing, a reporter from CCTV, visited the scene. She discovered cracks in the dam of Cuoguo Reservoir in Tingri County."

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    Did Deep Seek kill Suchir Balaji to get the training data to crash the market? George Webb thinks so and he blamed Deep Seek 3 weeks ago for the murder:



    If George is correct, then the US is at war.
    Wow.

    I don't have a twitter account...does anyone know where we can find that whole video presentation? Probably a must see.

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    Wow.

    I don't have a twitter account...does anyone know where we can find that whole video presentation? Probably a must see.
    I believe this is the episode, Moemers. If not, I've included the George Webb link on Rumble.

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    China Terrified of Trump vs. Elon + Chinese Bioweapon in US - Episode #266
    +New FACTORY FIRE CHAOS
    The China Show
    355K subscribers
    6/6/25

    (Starting at 32 minutes into the video, a list of some of the nefarious and secret attacks from the CCP on the US, from agroterrorism and the Chinese student infiltration of US Universities including Harvard, Stanford and the Univ. of Michigan for the purpose of stealing technology and other vital information for the CCP to be used against the US.
    I've copied and edited following segments of transcripts into an easy to read form. Please read if you don't have time to watch the complete videos! We all need to be much more aware of what the CCP is up to!
    Also, note the long list of news sources on The China Show youtube page. Those guys have been doing their homework, and they also have their own personal sources living in China.
    )


    "Chinese rebel against the elites, China smuggles bioweapon into the USA, Trump vs. Elon has China twisted in knots, and Chinese people blow up factories across the country!"



    Transcript Section starting at 47 minutes into the video:

    " Cash Patel said the case is a sobering reminder that the CCP is working around the clock to deploy operatives and researchers to infiltrate American institutions, & target our food supply which would have grave consequences putting American lives in our economy at serious risk.
    I keep hearing news outlets kind of taking the approach of yeah look the bad part is that she's illegally doing research on a dangerous thing in America. F--- your research Let's use common sense. Yeah.
    And let's actually treat it as the worst case scenario.
    A guy who has CCP ties and a girl who has CCP ties flies over to America with deadly pathogen samples.
    Yes. Right. Deadly to crops. If they were doing research you can do that research in America or in China right?
    Why would you do clandestine research in America?
    Grow it! He said he was going to clone it!
    So they want to grow the samples!
    Where is Michigan? In the center of in the Midwest. Exactly.
    Where are all the crops? In the Midwest. There we go. So they are busy cloning this thing in the middle of where all the crops are.
    Easy to distribute it, the thing that kills all of those crops.
    How are people not putting this together?
    Yeah that's insane to me. And you have conversations between them like "Let's
    not be stupid here."
    They're acting like they have to pull off one last heist.
    This isn't like we're going to crack the code and find out how to kill this fungus and we can save the world.
    No they have CCP handlers that are telling them to go over here and cause bioteterrorism.
    Also why is a Communist Party member studying, doing research in a lab.
    You're supposed to tell on your visa interview "do you have any ties to the Communist Party?' She lied. That's visa fraud.
    Right. She lied. You are part of the Communist Party. Yes. You're attached to the Communist Party probably on a mission to destroy my country.
    I take that personally. I'm very happy they caught this. How many more do we have to deal with because guess what?
    This is tied to so much at the University of Michigan that we've uncovered. Oh we've
    found something out about the University of Michigan, and I'd say all universities in America have fallen prey to this.
    I don't think one has been left untapped.
    If this doesn't open your eyes to the situation I don't know what will."
    *********
    (The above is just a sample of what is covered in the video about the CCP's infiltration into and various secret attacks on the US. Much more follows in the rest of the video.)

    ****************
    In case you don't think The China Show is a reliable source of news:

    'FRIGHTENING': FBI says China targeted US food supply in 'agroterrorism' plot
    Fox News
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    "The ‘Outnumbered’ panel weighs in after Chinese nationals were charged with smuggling a dangerous biological pathogen into the United States."



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    You Should Be Terrified of What China Just Did
    Laowhy86
    5/31/25



    Transcript
    "China's making a war command city the size of 10 Pentagons. It'll control nukes and it basically puts a giant target on the USA's back. Well guys, I guess China is really serious about taking us out. Now you guys have been absolutely vocal about wanting me to analyze this massive military city. Yes a freaking city that China is making to basically have military superiority the world over.
    'If confirmed this new advanced underground command bunker for the military leadership including President Xi as the chairman of the Central Military Commission signals Beijing's intent to build not only a world-class conventional force but also an advanced nuclear warfighting capability,' said Dennis Wilder the former head of the
    China analysis for the CIA.
    Nearly 10 times bigger than the Pentagon, it's fitting for Xi Jinping's ambitions to surpass the US. This fortress only serves one purpose, which is to act as a doomsday bunker for China's increasingly sophisticated and capable military guys. I mean it's China-- this is an evil ass government who tells the world that it wants peace and then it gets its psychophants to spread this message that it's some global arbitrator of peace and it just wants global cooperation and friendship everywhere. But meanwhile makes the biggest military command center in the entire world and wants to use it to literally take over the entire world.
    This station is for an overt invasion; this is to combat the USA in the future. This is for future war. The problem is people see the military parades, they see this giant huge massive command station, they see the big nuclear silos, they see millions of soldiers in China ready to head into battle. ...And I mean China's got Taiwan encircled. They're cornering the Philippines. I mean they freaking sailed warships near Australia, but the thing is people can only sit around and wonder what will happen, what will be the response when the day comes that China actually invades or attacks or engages the US in warfare?
    But here's my problem with this this planning. All these plans give China an out, it gives China an excuse. They get to go through with all these plans and plan for the
    future. Plan for future invasion, plan for future attack. The US cannot retaliate
    because you can't retaliate against preparations, you can't retaliate or fight back against plans.
    China's going full doomsday prepper and making a military command city the size of a thousand football fields and people flip out and feel hopeless because there's no
    way that we in the West or in America or our allies in Asia could ever potentially catch up with China. In this case we simply have to wait it out and see what China's going to do, and we can't do anything to fight back because China hasn't actively attacked anything.
    Yes, this is the narrative going around but bro I'm sorry to tell you that ship has already sailed, China already did the thing. They already attacked. If you want
    to read one of the scariest books you could ever read do yourself a disservice
    and read Unrestricted Warfare by Xiaolyang and Wong Xiang Su, two Chinese
    People's Liberation Army colonels. They wrote a book and it's not good. In 1999,
    in this book they argued that modern warfare should go beyond traditional
    military battlefields to include political economic technological psychological societal and cultural domains. They talk about attacking all the stuff that you don't even think about.
    26 years ago they wrote this book as a way to persuade the CCP to be something truly insidious and guess what, it worked! Wait till you see which of their predictions came true. First they talk about cyber warfare and espionage. Did China do any of that? Well, how about the OPM hack in 2015? Chinese hackers stole sensitive personal data on over 22 million Americans from the Office of Personnel Management including SF86 security clearance files. How about the cloud hopper operation where Chinese state sponsored hackers infiltrated Cloud service providers like IBM and Hewlet Packer to steal client data globally including from US firms?
    How about Salt Typhoon in late 2024? Chinese state sponsored group known as
    Salt Typhoon infiltrated major US telecommunications providers including
    Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile.
    The attackers accessed core network components obtaining metadata of users calls and text messages and in some cases audio recordings.
    How about in December 2024 when Chinese stateback hackers breached the US Treasury Department workstations, the actual US government?
    How about Volt Typhoon? Another Chinese state sponsored hacking group was implicated in cyber campaigns targeting US critical infrastructure and telecommunications.We're talking water, electricity, the grid, all that.
    More, how about the hacker for higher operations in March 2024?
    The US Department of Justice indicted seven China based nationals for their involvement in a PRC backed criminal hacking group.
    This group targeted US-based critics, businesses and political officials with malicious cyber operations intended to intimidate and silence dissident and steal from their businesses.
    This group has been active for 14 years. China's also been exploiting vulnerabilities in software. Like for example in early 2025 multiple statebacked hacking groups from China and with others from North Korea, Iran and Russia, exploited new Windows vulnerabilities and used it for data theft and cyber espionage.
    Zeroday attacks: how about when they attacked our healthc care sector?
    Remember in mid 2024 ransomware actors attacked the largest payment processor for US healthcare transactions hampering prescriptions, causing extended delays in accessing electronic health records, patient communications and medication ordering
    systems.
    How about manipulating the economy as they predicted in this book?
    Well, China has historically been accused of devaluing the R&B and the UN-- their currency to make its exports cheaper, affecting US trade competitiveness about the control of rare earths.
    China controls around 80% of global rare earth exports which are necessary for US defense and tech.
    Beijing has repeatedly used this as a geostrategic pressure tool including recently, during the US and China trade disputes. How about intellectual property theft?
    Well, US officials estimate that China has stolen hundreds of billions of dollars per year through corporate espionage, especially targeting defense tech and biotech industries.
    That's trillions of dollars overall.
    How about our beloved academic and scientific research facilities?
    Well, those have been infiltrated too. The Thousand Talents Program, a CCP
    recruitment campaign offers grants to foreign scientists including Americans
    to transfer research and intellectual property to China, usually telling them not to disclose ties.
    Not only that; as of 2017 China requires Chinese people no matter where they are in the world to report any and all information to the CCP.
    This includes Chinese students abroad.
    US prosecutors and researchers at Harvard and the Cleveland Clinic and elsewhere have also exposed covert collaborations with Chinese institutions.
    How about SCOP psychological operations information warfare for goodness sakes?TikTok--in a rare case of bipartisanship, Democrats and Republicans both agreed to ban Tik Toc.
    We voted on it. Right guys, as Americans we voted on this, we voted our leaders into power and we agreed that Tik Tok should be banned,
    Still waiting on that one. Why would Tik Tok need to be banned? It's quite literally a psychological operation in the pockets of hundreds of millions of Americans. Tik Tok has an algorithm that promotes CCP ideals and could potentially be used in a conflict situation to send out disinformation, misinformation and manipulate the opinion of Americans during a wartime scenario.
    It is real bad. How about straight up propaganda, especially on US social media Chinese state- linked accounts have run covert influence campaigns on Facebook, X YouTube, all of them.
    Really to sway opinion or sew division on sensitive US issues like race, COVID 19, elections, in fact they spend billions of dollars to do this and that's why you have Chinese propaganda all over your feed.
    It's why all of a sudden you see non-Chinese people doing tourism through Shinjang where China is committing genocide and telling you that Chongqing is the city of the future and the US is all behind.
    It's all tied together. You want to talk about unrestricted warfare? How about the Fentanyl crisis? China's been the main source of Fentanyl precursors used by criminals to get this drug into the US.
    This synthetic opioid crisis has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans.
    Some US officials have even called it a form of asymmetric warfare, intentional or not.
    How about biological and health sector ambiguities, how about the CO19 origins debate?
    While CO19 was probably not deliberately an act of warfare, the CCP's response certainly was early suppression of outbreak information, silencing of doctors allowing Chinese citizens to travel abroad while locking them down in China and crafting misinformation campaigns.
    This has all been seen as a case study in information warfare during a global crisis. They got the WHO to tell the world that CO19 wasn't even contagious for goodness sakes!
    Tell me that's not the greatest blueprint for disinformation you've ever heard of.
    How about medical supply leverage? In 2020 China mobilized patriotic citizens to go to foreign countries like the USA and hoard PPE and medical supplies during the pandemic to gain strategic advantage over the rest of the world.
    Purely sick, twisted and evil tactics if you ask me.
    How about maritime and infrastructure penetration port investments?
    Chinese companies have acquired stakes in over a dozen ports globally including strategic western locations,
    Critics worry about dual use capabilities --we're talking commercial and military; in fact, a lot of countries are going to lose their ports to the BarRi initiative where China will say "We built some of your infrastructure, now you got to give us a port because you can't afford to pay us back."
    How about Huawei's 5G infrastructure?
    The US and its allies have flagged Huawei as a national security threat due to its potential use for CCP surveillance through telecom's infrastructure.
    For goodness sakes. look at the freaking satellites that they just found with those rogue radio communications devices in them.
    We're kind of screwed if we don't get away from China.
    Here the be all and end all is that China's already invaded and we've done little publicly to do anything about it.
    It's time to get serious about this or it's game over so when people ask you what will happen when we go to war with China, guys, we're already at war, it's just that this war doesn't look like the one that your grandpa fought in."


    (Starting at 32 minutes into the video, a list of some of the nefarious attacks from the CCP on the US, from agroterrorism to the infiltration of US Universities including Harvard, Stanford and the Univ. of Michigan.)

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