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    Peter Levenda | Secret Space Program & NASA's Nazis

    A radio program with Peter Levenda and Red Iceabout the Nazi and UFO, Nasa etrc. . Thought you might find this of interest
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    I have been doing some digging around on why the Catholic Church had a close relationship with the Nazi's. It was inspired by Love and Gratitude's post.

    I found this site with great photos http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm

    It seems a strange marriage. I was looking into Hitlers religious beliefs earlier and thought Hitler wanted his own religion. It was be a blend of things Protestant, Theosophical, Pagen, and so on. Not exactly in the Catholic Church area of expertise I would say.

    I think the reasons for this union cover a few different areas.

    Germany was a Christian country, this alignment gave him spiritual peace at home and time to bring in his own religion.

    Germany offered a way out from the Rothschild and other Jewish bankers that controlled the Vatican Bank since 1823.

    Quote http://www.lust-for-life.org/Lust-Fo...nysFreedom.pdf

    Germany’s economic freedom was short-lived; but it left several monuments, including the
    famous Autobahn, the world’s first extensive superhighway.
    Hjalmar Schacht, a Rothschild agent who was temporarily head of the German central
    bank, summed it up thus. An American banker had commented, “Dr. Schacht, you should
    come to America. We have lots of money, and that’s real banking.”
    Schacht replied, “You should come to Berlin. We don’t have money. That’s real
    banking.” (Schacht, the Rothschild agent, actually supported the private international
    bankers against Germany, and was rewarded by having all charges against him dropped at
    the Nuremberg trials.)
    This economic freedom made Hitler extremely popular with the German people. Germany
    was rescued from English economic theory, which says that all currency must be
    borrowed against the gold owned by a private and secretive banking cartel — such as the
    Federal Reserve, or the Central Bank of Europe — rather than issued by the government
    for the benefit of the people.
    Quote http://www.rense.com/general77/POWERS.HTM

    CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--management of the Catholic and Czars' wealth and the capture of the Orthodox Church's wealth.

    Early in the 19th century the Pope came to the Rothschilds to borrow money. The Rothschilds were very friendly with the Pope, causing one journalist to sarcasticly say "Rothschild has kissed the hand of the Pope...Order has at last been re-established."39 The Rothschilds in fact over time were entrusted with the bulk of the Vatican's wealth. The Jewish Ency., Vol. 2, p.497states, ,,It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time (1905) the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure." Researcher Eustice Mullins writes that the Rothschilds took over all the financial operations of the worldwide Catholic Church in 1823.(40) Today the large banking and financial business of the Catholic Church is an extensive system interlocked with the Rothschilds and the rest of the International Banking system. The great wealth of the Russian Czars was entrusted to the Rothschilds, $35 million with the Rothschild's Bank of England, and $80 million in the Rothschild's Paris bank. The Rothschilds financed the Russian Revolution which confiscated vast portions of the Orthodox Church's wealth. They have been able to prevent (due to their power) the legitimate heirs of the Czars fortune to withdraw a penny of the millions deposited in a variety of their banks. The Mountbattans, who are related to the Rothschilds, led the court battles to prevent the claimants from withdrawing any of the fortune. In other words, the money they invested in the Russian Revolution, was not only paid back directly by the Bolshevists in millions of dollar of gold, but by grabbing the hugh deposits of the Czars' wealth, the Rothschilds gained what is now worth over $50 Billions.(41)
    This is not a complete picture yet. I'm still working on it.

    On the lighter side.....I thought I broke the internet....I did a search Zionism and Catholic church..... I thought google was going to crash.

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    Here is a copy of the agreement between Hitler and the Catholic Church. I included the first paragraph introduction.

    http://www.concordatwatch.eu/showkb....ASC&kb_id=1211

    Quote Reichskonkordat (with Hitler, 1933): Full text

    Here is the complete text: Concordat, Supplementary Protocol and Secret Supplement. Article 27 of the Concordat provides for military chaplains in case the Germany re-armed in contravention of the Versailles Treaty, and the Secret Supplement exempted Catholic clergy from military service. Even today the Secret Supplement does not appear in most translations: the Church won't admit to knowing that Hitler was about to start a war.
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    I have been doing some digging around on why the Catholic Church had a close relationship with the Nazi's. It was inspired by Love and Gratitude's post.

    I found this site with great photos http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm

    It seems a strange marriage. I was looking into Hitlers religious beliefs earlier and thought Hitler wanted his own religion. It was be a blend of things Protestant, Theosophical, Pagen, and so on. Not exactly in the Catholic Church area of expertise I would say.

    I think the reasons for this union cover a few different areas.

    Germany was a Christian country, this alignment gave him spiritual peace at home and time to bring in his own religion.

    Germany offered a way out from the Rothschild and other Jewish bankers that controlled the Vatican Bank since 1823.

    Quote http://www.lust-for-life.org/Lust-Fo...nysFreedom.pdf

    Germany’s economic freedom was short-lived; but it left several monuments, including the
    famous Autobahn, the world’s first extensive superhighway.
    Hjalmar Schacht, a Rothschild agent who was temporarily head of the German central
    bank, summed it up thus. An American banker had commented, “Dr. Schacht, you should
    come to America. We have lots of money, and that’s real banking.”
    Schacht replied, “You should come to Berlin. We don’t have money. That’s real
    banking.” (Schacht, the Rothschild agent, actually supported the private international
    bankers against Germany, and was rewarded by having all charges against him dropped at
    the Nuremberg trials.)
    This economic freedom made Hitler extremely popular with the German people. Germany
    was rescued from English economic theory, which says that all currency must be
    borrowed against the gold owned by a private and secretive banking cartel — such as the
    Federal Reserve, or the Central Bank of Europe — rather than issued by the government
    for the benefit of the people.
    Quote http://www.rense.com/general77/POWERS.HTM

    CO-MASTERS OF THE WORLD--management of the Catholic and Czars' wealth and the capture of the Orthodox Church's wealth.

    Early in the 19th century the Pope came to the Rothschilds to borrow money. The Rothschilds were very friendly with the Pope, causing one journalist to sarcasticly say "Rothschild has kissed the hand of the Pope...Order has at last been re-established."39 The Rothschilds in fact over time were entrusted with the bulk of the Vatican's wealth. The Jewish Ency., Vol. 2, p.497states, ,,It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time (1905) the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure." Researcher Eustice Mullins writes that the Rothschilds took over all the financial operations of the worldwide Catholic Church in 1823.(40) Today the large banking and financial business of the Catholic Church is an extensive system interlocked with the Rothschilds and the rest of the International Banking system. The great wealth of the Russian Czars was entrusted to the Rothschilds, $35 million with the Rothschild's Bank of England, and $80 million in the Rothschild's Paris bank. The Rothschilds financed the Russian Revolution which confiscated vast portions of the Orthodox Church's wealth. They have been able to prevent (due to their power) the legitimate heirs of the Czars fortune to withdraw a penny of the millions deposited in a variety of their banks. The Mountbattans, who are related to the Rothschilds, led the court battles to prevent the claimants from withdrawing any of the fortune. In other words, the money they invested in the Russian Revolution, was not only paid back directly by the Bolshevists in millions of dollar of gold, but by grabbing the hugh deposits of the Czars' wealth, the Rothschilds gained what is now worth over $50 Billions.(41)
    This is not a complete picture yet. I'm still working on it.

    On the lighter side.....I thought I broke the internet....I did a search Zionism and Catholic church..... I thought google was going to crash.
    The vatican could also see what the communists had in store for them, never forget the Spanish civil war.
    Bearing in mind that the greatest enemy to the zionist banking system and communism, both bastard children of the same parent, was the NSDAP.

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    Before the contoversy which exploded around David Irving....

    When I was at university in my years in a history and politics department, my supervisor at the time, a published historical author of WW2, invited David Irving to give a lecture at our university.
    This was just before the controversy. The **** hit the fan for my supervisor and he was subjected to a mild inquisition. Its funny that at some time later, another Jewish supervisor of mine, had no anti-nazi feelings whatsoever and would often comment that his Jewish father was an admirer of Hitler. His father lived in N. USA somewhere in a forest and emulated Hitler's life to a certain extent, even down to owning German Shepherds.

    There is strong evidence that David Irving was correct on many points he made regarding myths of the holocaust. A great pity that hysteria wins over truth everytime. Also can bury truth and make it a taboo.
    I would recommend the Irving trial book Ice...Many details oft overlooked and in the nittty gritty of a trial scenario with top lawyers a lot of data is well examined.

    cheers

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    Before the contoversy which exploded around David Irving....

    When I was at university in my years in a history and politics department, my supervisor at the time, a published historical author of WW2, invited David Irving to give a lecture at our university.
    This was just before the controversy. The **** hit the fan for my supervisor and he was subjected to a mild inquisition. Its funny that at some time later, another Jewish supervisor of mine, had no anti-nazi feelings whatsoever and would often comment that his Jewish father was an admirer of Hitler. His father lived in N. USA somewhere in a forest and emulated Hitler's life to a certain extent, even down to owning German Shepherds.

    There is strong evidence that David Irving was correct on many points he made regarding myths of the holocaust. A great pity that hysteria wins over truth everytime. Also can bury truth and make it a taboo.
    I would recommend the Irving trial book Ice...Many details oft overlooked and in the nittty gritty of a trial scenario with top lawyers a lot of data is well examined.

    cheers

    K
    The reason Irving lost is that he used the wrong tactics in court, nothing to do with the merit of his info.
    I just with people would stop their egos from running their lives like that.

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    Produced and presented as evidence at the Nuremberg war crimes trial


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    I will download it and have a look, then give you my opinion.
    Thanks for that.

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    Quote Posted by K626 (here)
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    Before the contoversy which exploded around David Irving....

    When I was at university in my years in a history and politics department, my supervisor at the time, a published historical author of WW2, invited David Irving to give a lecture at our university.
    This was just before the controversy. The **** hit the fan for my supervisor and he was subjected to a mild inquisition. Its funny that at some time later, another Jewish supervisor of mine, had no anti-nazi feelings whatsoever and would often comment that his Jewish father was an admirer of Hitler. His father lived in N. USA somewhere in a forest and emulated Hitler's life to a certain extent, even down to owning German Shepherds.

    There is strong evidence that David Irving was correct on many points he made regarding myths of the holocaust. A great pity that hysteria wins over truth everytime. Also can bury truth and make it a taboo.
    I would recommend the Irving trial book Ice...Many details oft overlooked and in the nittty gritty of a trial scenario with top lawyers a lot of data is well examined.

    cheers

    K
    The reason Irving lost is that he used the wrong tactics in court, nothing to do with the merit of his info.
    I just with people would stop their egos from running their lives like that.
    Yeah, if I remeber correctly he handled his own defence (read the book a few years ago), which is always a mistake in these kinds of trials. As you say, the ego took over.

    cheers

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    Alan Watt

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    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
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    Before the contoversy which exploded around David Irving....

    When I was at university in my years in a history and politics department, my supervisor at the time, a published historical author of WW2, invited David Irving to give a lecture at our university.
    This was just before the controversy. The **** hit the fan for my supervisor and he was subjected to a mild inquisition. Its funny that at some time later, another Jewish supervisor of mine, had no anti-nazi feelings whatsoever and would often comment that his Jewish father was an admirer of Hitler. His father lived in N. USA somewhere in a forest and emulated Hitler's life to a certain extent, even down to owning German Shepherds.

    There is strong evidence that David Irving was correct on many points he made regarding myths of the holocaust. A great pity that hysteria wins over truth everytime. Also can bury truth and make it a taboo.
    I would recommend the Irving trial book Ice...Many details oft overlooked and in the nittty gritty of a trial scenario with top lawyers a lot of data is well examined.

    cheers

    K
    The reason Irving lost is that he used the wrong tactics in court, nothing to do with the merit of his info.
    I just with people would stop their egos from running their lives like that.
    Yeah, if I remeber correctly he handled his own defence (read the book a few years ago), which is always a mistake in these kinds of trials. As you say, the ego took over.

    cheers

    K
    Irving was the plaintiff, not defendant.
    And the thing is, that libel actions are VERY hard to win.
    Probably 10% at most succeed.
    But when you go in to prove the holocaust did not happen and not that your reputation has been damaged, you will lose.

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    Quote Posted by K626 (here)
    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    Quote Posted by K626 (here)
    Quote Posted by Icecold (here)
    Before the contoversy which exploded around David Irving....

    When I was at university in my years in a history and politics department, my supervisor at the time, a published historical author of WW2, invited David Irving to give a lecture at our university.
    This was just before the controversy. The **** hit the fan for my supervisor and he was subjected to a mild inquisition. Its funny that at some time later, another Jewish supervisor of mine, had no anti-nazi feelings whatsoever and would often comment that his Jewish father was an admirer of Hitler. His father lived in N. USA somewhere in a forest and emulated Hitler's life to a certain extent, even down to owning German Shepherds.

    There is strong evidence that David Irving was correct on many points he made regarding myths of the holocaust. A great pity that hysteria wins over truth everytime. Also can bury truth and make it a taboo.
    I would recommend the Irving trial book Ice...Many details oft overlooked and in the nittty gritty of a trial scenario with top lawyers a lot of data is well examined.

    cheers

    K
    The reason Irving lost is that he used the wrong tactics in court, nothing to do with the merit of his info.
    I just with people would stop their egos from running their lives like that.
    Yeah, if I remeber correctly he handled his own defence (read the book a few years ago), which is always a mistake in these kinds of trials. As you say, the ego took over.

    cheers

    K
    Irving was the plaintiff, not defendant.
    And the thing is, that libel actions are VERY hard to win.
    Probably 10% at most succeed.
    But when you go in to prove the holocaust did not happen and not that your reputation has been damaged, you will lose.
    Yeah, that's right. He was very over confident as he's won a settlement against a newspaper for libel a few years previous...
    These are no win trials I agree.
    Funny story about me and that book at Berlin airport a few years ago...ho ho..

    cheers


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    Produced and presented as evidence at the Nuremberg war crimes trial

    Ok, I had a look.
    Anything you wanted to raise?
    I was hoping it is the one with the spurious claims about gas chambers at Dachau, but it isn't.
    If you see that one around, I would be obliged if you post it.

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    A RADIO INTERVIEW WITH CAROLYN YEAGER

    Listen to this Interview with Carolyn Yeager by Talk show host by Charles Giuliani. His website and radio show are -

    Host: Charles Giuliani
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    Email: truthhertzradio@aol.com


    Carolyn is a historian and a holocaust historian. Carolyn has written many book and interviewed many historians over the years about the history of world war 2 and has accessed many documents.

    This program is about another “Fake” holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel. Some of Carolyn website are -
    http://carolynyeager.com/ or eliewiseltatoo.com

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    http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Tr...-03-03_16k.mp3


    IN HER BOOK - Searching For the Bodies –
    This book was written after researching many years and was co-wrote a book with Wilhelm Mann. The most surprising thing to be found were mass graves stemming from World War II have been found around Malbork. In 1996, 178 corpses were discovered on the grounds of Marienberg/Malbork Castle. In 2005, specialists exhumed the bones of 123 more, including five women and six children, from a trench. All are believed to be Germans.

    NO CZECHS IN MASS GRAVES
    Czechs have not claimed massacres from the war - other than the 173 men of the village of Lidice, who were executed for harboring the murderers of Reichs Protector for Bohemia-Moravia, Reinhard Heydrich, as an example to those who would cooperate with the Czech underground (considered by the Germans as an illegal terrorist organization).
    Still, there was great desire to retaliate following the retreat of the German Wehrmacht and the arrival of the Soviet Red Army and NKVD. Postelberg/Polstoloprty and Saav/Zatec, two towns northwest of Prague, saw brutal massacres of at least 2,000 Sudeten Germans in the space of a few days in June 1945.

    There was also the Bruenn/Brno Death March, which began late on the night of May 30, and the Aussig/Usti nad Labem Massacre on July 31, 1945—both majority German towns in the same area of Northwestern Bohemia. Basing their decision on the Potsdam Agreement, the Czech “National Committee of Brno” announced the expulsion of 20,000 ethnic Germans, mostly women, children and elderly (the German adult men were all POW’s), and forced them to march 56 kilometers south to the border of Austria. Once there, however, the Soviet authorities refused to allow them to cross, so they were marched back into internment. Many died and are buried along the way; up to 8000 German's perished in the terrible conditions before the survivors were released.

    Over the number of graves digged up after the war was done by Jewish groups without the help of Government or independant groups. These “find” has been widely publicized in world media as a “holocaust” mass grave, yet no tests have proven the remains to be Jewish, or the perpetrators to be Germans. It is assumed.   

    Since these two finds in 2006 and 2007, there have been no more claims of mass graves of Jews. As we know, there are no substantial remains of either bodies or ashes discovered at the concentration camp sites of Treblinka, Belzec, Sorbibor, Chelmo or Auschwitz-Birkenau, all in Poland. The killing-by-bullets of Jews that supposedly took place in the Ukraine is not showing up in any new mass graves, even though Father Patrick DuBois continues to search. He finds a few bodies here and there.
    What are we to think? When it comes to Germans and their allies massacred and thrown into pits, we have masses of evidence compiled by official government agencies, even when they are resistant to do so. When it comes to Poles, Ukrainians and other Slavic ethnics groups, we don’t find them buried in mass graves by the Nazis. When it comes to Jews, we have only the word of Jewish delegations that thousands of Jews are buried in mass graves that they refuse to excavate.
    As Mitja Ferenc, the Slovenian history professor, remarked of his own discoveries: “Without excavation, there is no way to know.”

    COPIES OF HER BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE ON HER WEBSITE FOR FREE.

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    There is a site on the net about that liar, the one I call eliar the weasel.
    In it, the guy says that isn't Eli Weisel, as he was with him in the camp.
    I would think that is quite interesting.

    Secondly, google Vinnitsa Massacre.
    I saw pics of that many years ago in a fake history book. They had said the SS had murdered all the jews of Vinnitsa.
    Oh, a fake history book is one of the allegedly mainstream books that repeats propaganda and paints it as actual events.

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    Quote Posted by Teakai (here)
    I’ve been reading about the holocaust and how there are those who believe that the story we’ve been told about it is a great deal of public relations propaganda in order to influence the minds of people to think a particular way.

    Now, I’m not for a minute saying that utterly terrible things which ought never to have happened, happened during WWll.
    And are still happening today to other people in other countries – but for some reason that pales in significance in people’s minds in comparison to that of ‘the holocaust’.

    However, looking beyond the human tragedy of it, the question arises: - was it all an essential part of the greater plan to drive the new world order agenda full steam ahead?

    The Rothschilds (‘ptb’ being Zionists and apparently Jews (handy that) and god knows what else ) funded both sides of this war, they were responsible for the start of the UN.
    Great Britian wanted US support during WWll, so a deal was done that Great Britian would hand over a chunk of Palestine (now considerably grown and increasingly growing ) if the US could be inspired to join – bring on p*ssing off the Japanese and thereby instigating the attack on Pearl Harbour.

    All these moves, and many more, have been chess piece moves taking place under the cover of using human pawns in order to strategically place the pieces to bring about the globalist ‘nwo’ agenda.

    It is illegal in certain countries to be a holocaust denier, and even people in countries where it isn’t have been so brainwashed by the propaganda they are unable to discuss the situation with an open mind and an opinion not shrouded by emotion.
    Which is an absolute shame, for while it remains an un-investigated and unquestioned event the Jewish people will remain sacrificial lambs to the Zionist movement to attain total control over the world and humanity.

    And, while we allow the cockroaches to remain hiding under the cover of Holocaust guilt and censorship they will continue doing whatever it is they are doing to make the world a place that none of us want to live in.

    Have at it.
    I can put my signature under it. If you allow me

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    Quote The vatican could also see what the communists had in store for them, never forget the Spanish civil war.
    Bearing in mind that the greatest enemy to the zionist banking system and communism, both bastard children of the same parent, was the NSDAP.
    Hitler's invasion of Russia had its roots in the Spanish Civil War. Catholic/Communist/Anarchist lines were drawn in Spain.

    To a certain extent the German invasion of Russia was a crusade. War + Pogrom = Crusade.

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    Trying to reconcile these 2 conspiracy themes. Maybe someone can help.

    1 The reports of gas chambers and incinerators at Dachau and Auschwitz are false.

    2 FEMA Camps have incinerators and gas chambers in the facilities.

    So.. It didn't happen there but it's going to happen here?

    Help..
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    EISENHOWER – WAR CRIMINAL OR WAR HERO

    Nazi Concentration Camp VIDEO - if you look who it was made by - Dwight Eisenhower.
    OK. Let look at Eisenhower.

    Who is he -
    Eisenhower's West Point Military Academy graduating class yearbook, published in 1915, Eisenhower is identified as a "terrible Swedish Jew." Changing his name from Eisenhower to Eisenhower is a typical Jew tactic.
    Wherever Eisenhower went during his military career, Eisenhower's Jewish background and secondary manifesting behavior was a concern to his fellow officers.
    During World War II when Col. Eisenhower was working for Gen. Douglas MacArthur in the South Pacific, and MacArthur protested to his superiors in Washington (DC) that Eisenhower was incompetent and that he did not want Eisenhower on his staff.
    Eisenhower was responsible for " Operation Keelhaul " - where allied forces rounded over two million anti-Communists who escaped Stalin  and tuned them over to Russian forces. Part of the Yalta Agreement between the Big Three — Stalin, Roosevelt, and Churchill — involved the repatriation of Russians to their respective homelands where they were either immediately executed or sent to die in the Gulag.
    In 1945 Eisenhower threw 1.7 million Germans in open fields which killed approx 1.2 million from starvation. He allowed 1.2 million soldiers to die from starvation. There was enough food and supplies and he supported the GERMAN HOLOCAUST. Maybe the Germans need reparations from the USA. He killed more Germans in peace than Germans were killed in war. The Germans were set up from the word go. Put into the noose. All at the behest from Elite Jews. They set Germany up so they could take it down. And been made to paid for something they did not do.

    The Russian have been traditionally were blamed for 1 million soldiers but it was the USA – directed by Eisenhower. Will the war criminal please stand up. They watched them die slowly........ many men died from gang green from frost bite, The local German people were denied access to them....this was the sort of thing that the Nazi were accused of. The USA brought the tyranny.

    Who's agenda was this,,,,,, who orders was he following.....who wanted the German cities decimated. Who wanted the Germans solider starved to death.....THE ELITE JEWS. The deeper you dig, you uglier its get.
    God, I hate the Germans..." --Dwight David Eisenhower
    in a letter to his wife in September, 1944

    What a contrast to General Patton. Paton stated “that said he could not stand the Jews and the Russians and felt the Germans had been set up. Paton said he wanted to march into Moscow. When he would not shut up they killed him.

    Why would Eisenhower say this, that he hated the Germans. What did he have personally against the Germans. It could not have been about the holocaust. BECAUSE HE NEVER SAID A THING ABOUT THE HOLOCAUSE IN HIS MEMOIRS. Not a word. Never. HE HATED THE GERMANS because HE WAS A ZIONIST JEW. ZIONIST JEWS HATED THE GERMANS AND WANTED TO DESTROY GERMANY SO THEY INSTIGATED THE WAR , FUNDED AND PROFITEERED OFF THIS WAR AS A MEANS OF TAKING DOWN GEMRANY, JUST LIKE THEY DID IN WORLD WAR 1 AND WORLD WAR 2 WAS TO COMPLETE THE JOB.

    How do we know Eisenhower WAS A Jew, his Wrest Point year book, he was described as QUOTE” - A terrible Swedish Jew. And history show us who his loyalties was with.

    Eisenhower on his way to the white house was greatly influenced by his own adminations by
    Bernard Baruch. Bernard Baruch was behind Eisenhower.
    http://theunjustmedia.com/Jewish%20Z...%20War%20I.htm

    This elite jew had his fingers in every president since WoodordWilson on. Pulling the strings behind the scene. Waving fat wads of cash to get them to do his bidding of his Zionist party. .
    (SOUNDS LIKE WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY IN USA)

    It was under the Eisenhower administaion that the LEVON affiar occurred, where Isrealis planted bombs in American, British and Egyptian targets. And they got awasy with it. Eisenhower saw to that. No legal action pursues against them as always. It was hoped that the blame could be put on Egypt. So inticing USA to atttack Egypt on its behalf...but the whole plot unfolded and the isrealies got exposed. They do not stop.

    His military promotions on the eve of WWII and during the war are curious to say the least. Zionists found an Army officer who had been a military failure until Bernard Baruch promoted him to General.
    His actions and responsibilities during and after the war: direct, personal negotiations with Stalin on the placements of the armies (and the surrender of territory won by Americans, with the ceding of that territory to the Russians).
    The massacre of surrendered Germans at Dachau, the fire bombing of Dresden, Operation Keelhaul, and the intentional starvation of over 1,250,000 "disarmed enemy forces" all clearly mark him as a war criminal.
    In 1952, although he had been a Democrat most of his life, Baruch endorsed Dwight D. Eisenhower for president.
    http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBr...isenhower.html

    Have you heard about the bombing of Dresden. The bombing after the war on this town which virtually everybody agrees had absolutely no military value? It was filled with woman and children. It was merely to slaughter Germans citizens. Who did it? And why?
    Somebody very high up in the military leadership — such as Eisenhower and Churchill — planned and authorized that bombing. He wanted to march into Moscow because he knew who the real problem was and after he would not shut up he was killed.
    Why would Eisenhower slaughter so many Germans? By comparison, General Patton did not behave in this manner.
    Incidentally, General Patton died after the war after a minor but mysterious car accident, while Eisenhower was soon elected to president. Were these events merely coincidental?
     
    Some supporters of Eisenhower point out that he made a speech in which he made a vague remark about the "military industrial complex", but that doesn't prove he can be trusted. What is a military-industrial complex? Was it a code word for success?

    http://mp3.oraclebroadcasting.com/Tr...-02-22_16k.mp3

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    Time to draw a comparison?

    Here a picture of Trnopolje concentration camp in Bosnia, I have seen the media compare this with Auschwitz. there are similarities. like starvation! WHY?



    On this foto apears a man who is a friend of mine, who was in this camp and another. He showed me the video and many private photo's of this time as well.
    The comandant of the camp was an old school mate of his, this comandant told him clearly that he did not have food to give them. It was then organised that my friends wife who was not in the camp would cook and a jeep type vehicle was send to pick up the food. this is the only way they got fed???
    There is more to this story about this camp in Bosnia, but I wanted to point out the similarities here.

    Could it be that the camps in Germany ran out of food because all the supply lines were cut? and this is the main reason people looked the way they did?
    That really is was the alied bombings that stopped food getting to the camps?
    It seams easier to blame the loosing side of the war, it keeps the heat of the real reasons....

    and then the ovens???
    have you looked around your own city lately and seen how many ovens there are? we call them crematoriums these day's...

    I guess what I'd like to see is the truth told, and not some wild stories of how bad the German were towards certain peoples... but then this seems convenient doesnt it?

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    Gosh, this is a nasty rabbithole. But....hesitating......jumping.......I fly!!!!!!!!!!

    A couple of weeks ago I was down another rabbithole, when I suddenly was shown a new Swedish book.

    It stated that the camps were created by jews for jews. As I remembered it was about that the purpose

    wasnt to get rid of the jews as so often stated. If I understood it right it was about the worship of Molok

    and the purpose of the camps were to generate as much suffering as possible. Something like to create a

    surplus of suffering as a sacrifice to ancient gods. Thi is really creepy I think.

    If anyone is interested I think I can find the book. But it is in swedish.

    i think there were mentioned the fifth root-race too. When I read it I felt like

    vommiting all the time. I have seen much in my life and have a strong belly,

    but this was far beyond the limit. Love
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