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    Default Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    I’ve been following Ben for 10+ years but lately he is:

    Angry all the time (his divorce and steroids may be behind this)
    - lashes out at posters for petty things
    - has little patience with questions about his “science” (“do the homework!”)
    - has fantasies about “teal pears”

    Pushes his money-maker “Observers Ranch” (OR) on every post (but will not take questions about it, typically)
    - my analysis shows the OR location is not as safe as Ben claims (better locations in the interior of Colorado)
    - seems the location is really Public relations and making money, not the ultimate “safe” location (which I think is hidden)

    Ben seems to have gone full-on Christian Radical: wearing prominent crosses, wife-beater undershirts, ranting about “Denver sucking” and its Satanic tendencies, adopting a crazy-eye “Rasputin” stare into the camera.

    I used to think this guy was the real deal…not so sure anymore.

    …I still listen to almost every short video he posts, tho. The long ones are too irritating, so no, not watching.

    I’d appreciate any feedback from the forum.

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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    spotlight anyone human for long enough and you'll see schizophrenia

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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    I was having very similar concerns until just the last few weeks.
    I think the conflict going on behind the scenes with his wife (who was unfaithful) was really getting to him.
    But I get the feeling now that the divorce has taken a huge load off his mind.
    His diet of lots of red meat/high protein is probably wrong for his body type, and leads to anger, tension and hyper behavior.
    Hopefully some of the more enlightened visitors to Observer Ranch will show him a better way.
    In any case, a good, practical menu of survivor foods will need to include lots of seeds, nuts, legumes that can be sprouted for high enzymatic content and lots of cultured and fermented foods.
    I can understand his desire to keep his private community private, but as for the location, I think it's going to be safe enough from the coming changes, and no doubt finances were a concern when it was being purchased.
    Things are really getting underway now at the Ranch and with the new documentary coming out soon, activity at the Ranch is sure to be on the upswing and he will be able to relax more. See:
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    (If anyone saw Ben's activity on X yesterday and can tell us what happened that Ben is referring to in this video, please clue the rest of us in.
    In any case, he is refreshingly, positively mellow (almost) all through this Q.&A. and he corrects his course toward the end when he starts going off on a Q about ADHD. )
    Some hints here in the first part of the Transcript about yesterday on X:

    "So I've had an interesting 24 hours.
    Those of you who follow me on X already know that let's hold up on the questions.
    Real quick, this will be a beginner's questions allowed. no homework required.
    Um, if it's something that can be answered in the homework I will do my best to answer your question short form, desalinated of course.
    And then direct you to go do the homework which you really should be doing if you have enough care to be here and be asking a question.
    Um, trust me it'll answer your next 500 questions so um but first...
    So yesterday on X I probably went a little too far I was a little curious to see what the line was considering how outlandish.
    I have been on X from time to time and how outlandish I see other people being on X fairly regularly.
    Um, yeah, my buddy from uh well you know what i won't even say where he lives here, but uh Ranger RRD scariest person I've ever seen in my life um and I'm not exactly scared by a lot.
    Um I'm sitting on the couch, I get up, I go to the bathroom, I'm in there maybe 25 seconds, I come out and
    he's on my couch.
    "Take a seat Ben we need to talk." Colorado Springs' finest came to visit me at about 11:30 last night and then this morning the Federal Bureau of Investigation decided to come pay me a visit, so that was fun.
    Um I will say this, the ghost Colorado Springs' finest and the people that visited me this morning, they seemed very professional and as concerned and caring about me as they were anything else.
    Uh I thank them for that and I respect them hugely and if you guys could have been there I think you would too.
    This is how these are good members of law enforcement.
    I mean that.
    Anyway, ask me anything; here we go, what do we got?
    Stop asking me what I did or what I said and I'm not going to not going to go into it."

    Quote Posted by Dumpster Diver (here)
    I’ve been following Ben for 10+ years but lately he is:

    Angry all the time (his divorce and steroids may be behind this)
    - lashes out at posters for petty things
    - has little patience with questions about his “science” (“do the homework!”)
    - has fantasies about “teal pears”

    Pushes his money-maker “Observers Ranch” (OR) on every post (but will not take questions about it, typically)
    - my analysis shows the OR location is not as safe as Ben claims (better locations in the interior of Colorado)
    - seems the location is really Public relations and making money, not the ultimate “safe” location (which I think is hidden)

    Ben seems to have gone full-on Christian Radical: wearing prominent crosses, wife-beater undershirts, ranting about “Denver sucking” and its Satanic tendencies, adopting a crazy-eye “Rasputin” stare into the camera.

    I used to think this guy was the real deal…not so sure anymore.

    …I still listen to almost every short video he posts, tho. The long ones are too irritating, so no, not watching.

    I’d appreciate any feedback from the forum.
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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    Suspicious observers has indeed ended up a bit... suspicious.
    I dont know much about prices in USA but 65-100 dollars to sleep one night in a caravan seems a bit much for me .
    Starts to give Harold Camping vibes who endlessly kept predicting when the world will end and made millions while doing so from the poor suckers who believed him.
    Information he gives is certainly interesting but that he tries to sell some merchandise etc while doing it is a bit off putting.

    And some have called him a cult leader a long time ago . (im not a big fan of that professor dave ,he seems like a gatekeeper but he does make a couple of good points in this video ).

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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    He has a skill, for sure. I intersected with him way back in 2010 and have been following right along. He's young. I feel a bit sorry for those who develop a large following while still so young -most are not able to successfully navigate this. There is almost always a rocky "middle". He has a lot on plate relative to ego, which is clear. Like the rest of us, he will grow and develop and improve. Only in his case, in front of millions of sets of eyes. We should probably all send him a compassionate wave of "all in the highest light and for the greatest good." We need for those of us with skills to continue them.
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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    I believe the price of camping includes a lot more at Observer Ranch than simple accommodations, such as access to an extensive library and to other facilities, to the staff who are very knowledgable, classes and seminars with expert speakers, gatherings with other Preppers, etc.
    Davidson is very bright and very dedicated to his studies, devoting hours daily to studying the latest scientific data.
    If you listen to his daily updates, it becomes quite obvious that he knows his field very thoroughly.
    I think he is sincere about wanting to help Preppers survive and feels the weight of resonsibility keenly.
    People like to remain in denial about what's coming and anyone like Ben who rocks their boat is sure to be under frequent attack, which can only be stressful even for the most stoic individuals.
    Given how quiet the puppet masters have wanted to keep information about how much destruction solar cycles regularly cause, and in particular, how very vulnerable the electric grid is rapidly becoming, it's a no brainer as to how much they would like for Ben to keep silent, and I'm sure he is keenly aware of how dangerous that can be.
    His competitors like Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock are going to look very bad indeed once it becomes obvious Ben has been right all along, though they are certainly capitalizing on the widespread denial as much as they can now; I imagine they are well prepared for their retirement.
    The real scholars who don't dedicate themselves to creating a following and being a media star are much more in alignment with Ben as far as the real data is concerned.
    So he's taken on a task that is extremely stressful and it's no wonder that he flies off the handle sometimes.
    I think a change in diet and more meditation practive would do wonders for him, and I hope he realizes that soon.
    Now that the divorce is finalized, he will probably be much more relaxed and happy.
    His last Q&A showed a calmer and more peaceful Ben than I have ever seen.
    It seems the visits from the local authorities actually showed him that he has their support, and that must have been encouraging.
    When the documentary he is working on now comes out this Fall, I imagine he will be experiencing a lot more vindication, since the data that has been coming out over the last couple of years is much more conclusive than before, and so his detractors will have to back off a lot more.

    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    Suspicious observers has indeed ended up a bit... suspicious.
    I dont know much about prices in USA but 65-100 dollars to sleep one night in a caravan seems a bit much for me .
    Starts to give Harold Camping vibes who endlessly kept predicting when the world will end and made millions while doing so from the poor suckers who believed him.
    Information he gives is certainly interesting but that he tries to sell some merchandise etc while doing it is a bit off putting.

    And some have called him a cult leader a long time ago . (im not a big fan of that professor dave ,he seems like a gatekeeper but he does make a couple of good points in this video ).
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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    I lost interest when I saw his live online video where every other second people were donating money to the 'cause' in some sort of competitive fashion. Ben was not formally trained in astrophysics, and he appears to be always trying to dazzle us with his special 'knowledge' fired at a rapid pace to convince us of his superiority, even without such training.

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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    Quote Posted by Arcturian108 (here)
    I lost interest when I saw his live online video where every other second people were donating money to the 'cause' in some sort of competitive fashion. Ben was not formally trained in astrophysics, and he appears to be always trying to dazzle us with his special 'knowledge' fired at a rapid pace to convince us of his superiority, even without such training.
    Indeed for him it is a business. He has made hundreds of thousands of dollars with it while he has been caught misinterpret data on many occasions .
    All the money donated over the years for different causes always just ended up in his pocket and the causes never happened , like his doomsday APP etc.
    I do suggest people to watch the video i posted . Some of the things he has done is rather shady ..
    He might be genuine with his beliefs but turning his beliefs into business just adds a bad taste to it. Im skeptical of everyone these days

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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    He is an attorney, but not a practicing one. He says he realized that he was more interested in science early on, and so his minor was in science, but he finished his studies in law as he thought practicing law would be a more lucrative profession than his scientific studies would provide.
    I'm not sure if his main focus was astrophysics, but that certainly must have been part of it.
    "Misinterpreting data" would certainly be the main accusation of detractors who are being paid to support what the puppet masters want the public to believe.
    Just as Dutchsinse's detractors were--those in high academic positions--and all proven in time to be absolutely wrong and looking very foolish for not seeing the clear evidence that Dutch has been presenting for years.

    Building a successful Prepper community and the education center like Observer Ranch are both very expensive projects so I don't think that acquiring funds can be held against him, or changing his mind about what projects were most important as time passed.
    If he kept the funds under his name it's probably a good thing since his ex-wife probably challenged him for part of those funds during the divorce proceedings.
    He has most certainly had a lot of detractors but it's not terribly hard to understand why (see my post #6 above).
    He is Christian and I think the prophecies in the Book of Revelations and other prophecies about the "End Times" as well as info from "forbidden archeologists" such as Robert Schoch and Brian Foerster work have probably had a profound impact on him.
    I would say that all three are very good dot connectors, especially when studied in combination.
    I just hope that if he buckles under the pressure or is "suicided" there will be supporters who will be able to continue his work.
    I think he is providing an invaluable service to humanity.
    Bill Ryan has said he thinks Ben is no fool; perhaps he will offer more of his views here and his reasons for them.

    Quote Posted by Arcturian108 (here)
    I lost interest when I saw his live online video where every other second people were donating money to the 'cause' in some sort of competitive fashion. Ben was not formally trained in astrophysics, and he appears to be always trying to dazzle us with his special 'knowledge' fired at a rapid pace to convince us of his superiority, even without such training.
    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    Indeed for him it is a business. He has made hundreds of thousands of dollars with it while he has been caught misinterpret data on many occasions .
    All the money donated over the years for different causes always just ended up in his pocket and the causes never happened , like his doomsday APP etc.
    I do suggest people to watch the video i posted . Some of the things he has done is rather shady ..
    He might be genuine with his beliefs but turning his beliefs into business just adds a bad taste to it. Im skeptical of everyone these days
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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    The first time I watched one on his videos, a couple of years ago, I was immediately turned off by his use of fear language relating to the sun. That was enough for me to discard him as a credible source.

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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    See the newly released documentary The Agenda https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...24#post1672124
    ...which makes it VERY clear as to just why the Globalist controllers desperately need the lie of global warming to be believed by the public in order to continue with their oligarchal plans.
    Anyone like Davidson who is publicly disproving that hollow theory is most certainly going to be a target of their attacks, and they have no problem paying shills to attack on their behalf.
    Still no mention of the 12,000 solar cycle in "The Agenda", but that's not too surprising either.
    Not many are willing to go any further than they have to to expose the Controller's plans, as they will then be subject to the same kinds of attacks.
    It's no fun coming up against the psychological desire to remain in denial about such terrifying realities as the failing of the electric grid which could happen now at any time, and the cataclysmic effects of the coming micronova.

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    He is an attorney, but not a practicing one. He says he realized that he was more interested in science early on, and so his minor was in science, but he finished his studies in law as he thought practicing law would be a more lucrative profession than his scientific studies would provide.
    I'm not sure if his main focus was astrophysics, but that certainly must have been part of it.
    "Misinterpreting data" would certainly be the main accusation of detractors who are being paid to support what the puppet masters want the public to believe.
    Just as Dutchsinse's detractors were--those in high academic positions--and all proven in time to be absolutely wrong and looking very foolish for not seeing the clear evidence that Dutch has been presenting for years.

    He has most certainly had a lot of detractors but it's not terribly hard to understand why (see my post #6 above).
    He is Christian and I think the prophecies in the Book of Revelations and other prophecies about the "End Times" as well as info from "forbidden archeologists" such as Robert Schoch and Brian Foerster work have probably had a profound impact on him.
    I would say that all three are very good dot connectors, especially when studied in combination.
    I just hope that if he buckles under the pressure or is "suicided" there will be supporters who will be able to continue his work.
    I think he is providing an invaluable service to humanity.
    Bill Ryan has said he thinks Ben is no fool; perhaps he will offer more of his views here and his reasons for them.

    Quote Posted by Arcturian108 (here)
    I lost interest when I saw his live online video where every other second people were donating money to the 'cause' in some sort of competitive fashion. Ben was not formally trained in astrophysics, and he appears to be always trying to dazzle us with his special 'knowledge' fired at a rapid pace to convince us of his superiority, even without such training.
    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    Indeed for him it is a business. He has made hundreds of thousands of dollars with it while he has been caught misinterpret data on many occasions .
    All the money donated over the years for different causes always just ended up in his pocket and the causes never happened , like his doomsday APP etc.
    I do suggest people to watch the video i posted . Some of the things he has done is rather shady ..
    He might be genuine with his beliefs but turning his beliefs into business just adds a bad taste to it. Im skeptical of everyone these days
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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    This guy's kind of a spaz. That's not much of a contribution to the thread, but it's all I got.

    I watched maybe 15 mins of him, but I had to turn it off. I just couldn't do it. And it wasn't because of his pessimism necessarily. It was because it was like watching a speed addict hold forth on something they imagine is brilliant within the glow of their high..but not being high myself I couldn't appreciate it.

    Any beer drinking college students who happen to find themselves in the presence of a room full of coke heads can appreciate my observation here maybe. That's what it reminds me of. This guy is just on a weird wavelength.

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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    Denial is easy (for a while at least), facing the truth is not, but fear is a double edged sword.
    It can be a life-saving motivator as well as a killer.

    Quote Posted by Ben (here)
    The first time I watched one on his videos, a couple of years ago, I was immediately turned off by his use of fear language relating to the sun. That was enough for me to discard him as a credible source.
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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    Fifteen minutes is what you base your asssessment on, Mike? I hope you don't really expect anyone to take that very seriously.
    He's carrying a lot of responsibility on his shoulders with a lot of people depending on him for their survival, and working very hard to be worthy of it.
    I would say that could make anyone a bit nervous.

    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    This guy's kind of a spaz. That's not much of a contribution to the thread, but it's all I got.

    I watched maybe 15 mins of him, but I had to turn it off. I just couldn't do it. And it wasn't because of his pessimism necessarily. It was because it was like watching a speed addict hold forth on something they imagine is brilliant within the glow of their high..but not being high myself I couldn't appreciate it.

    Any beer drinking college students who happen to find themselves in the presence of a room full of coke heads can appreciate my observation here maybe. That's what it reminds me of. This guy is just on a weird wavelength.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Fifteen minutes is what you base your asssessment on, Mike? I hope you don't really expect anyone to take that very seriously.
    He's carrying a lot of responsibility on his shoulders with a lot of people depending on him for their survival, and working very hard to be worthy of it.
    I would say that could make anyone a bit nervous.

    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    This guy's kind of a spaz. That's not much of a contribution to the thread, but it's all I got.

    I watched maybe 15 mins of him, but I had to turn it off. I just couldn't do it. And it wasn't because of his pessimism necessarily. It was because it was like watching a speed addict hold forth on something they imagine is brilliant within the glow of their high..but not being high myself I couldn't appreciate it.

    Any beer drinking college students who happen to find themselves in the presence of a room full of coke heads can appreciate my observation here maybe. That's what it reminds me of. This guy is just on a weird wavelength.
    I already admitted it's not much of a contribution!

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    Maybe he is right, but he is miserable and angry and driven. I do not accept these events in my own reality. It is a flaw in human thinking to anticipate what one would fear so one brings it in. The more I see the coagulating of POV to form connected beliefs, the more I realize that CULT-URE is fracturing at a great rate and there are multitudes of potentials based on what we accept and anticipate. Everything we perceive is the after effect of what we have decided is true. It trickles "down' from the nonphysical through US.

    IMO the spiritual world has many intelligences that influence us to desire our demise. In every case of collective attention to these prophesized events, they do not occur for me. It is as valid for me to continue expecting my own "realm" bumps along with no horrific disaster as it is for him (and all who agree) to have the worst case scenarios. This world really is one where our committment and attention creates. That is the big secret IMO.

    I choose expectation that "all is well" day by day moving into a place of regeneration of the right side up shift to the real. IMO the real is that I as a spiritual being IN THIS EXPERIENCE may have what I most value. LOTS of people value wholesale destruction and doom.

    Because we are all going to exit this world, IMO it is actually inability to face the loss of "this life" that subconsciously cultivates "everyone is doomed". Maybe I am mistaken about the solar flash and grid down? I however THOROUGHLY dimiss it. There is no fear for me or draw towards collecting stuff to survive it at any rate.

    Time will tell. I really prefer what some may call denial and I won't back down. the good news for all is that we reap what we sow. YOUR opinion does not change my experience or vice versa. ONLY when I take your opinion and make it mine does it appear in my field of experience.
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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Fifteen minutes is what you base your asssessment on, Mike? I hope you don't really expect anyone to take that very seriously.
    He's carrying a lot of responsibility on his shoulders with a lot of people depending on him for their survival, and working very hard to be worthy of it.
    I would say that could make anyone a bit nervous.

    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    This guy's kind of a spaz. That's not much of a contribution to the thread, but it's all I got.

    I watched maybe 15 mins of him, but I had to turn it off. I just couldn't do it. And it wasn't because of his pessimism necessarily. It was because it was like watching a speed addict hold forth on something they imagine is brilliant within the glow of their high..but not being high myself I couldn't appreciate it.

    Any beer drinking college students who happen to find themselves in the presence of a room full of coke heads can appreciate my observation here maybe. That's what it reminds me of. This guy is just on a weird wavelength.
    It is opportune to say something at this point.

    Ben began reporting daily, and I want to emphasize this - DAILY - in roughly 2008.

    Back in the beginning, it was just REPORTING, no live-streaming or "salt". No-one really knew who Ben was, his age, or what he looked like, he was just a voice, - a voice reporting HIGHLY INTERESTING things about the sun's daily activity. He had his eye on something, but I couldn't say for sure when the moment came that even he knew exactly what that was. But when he was sure, when he felt certain, he stepped out in front of camera and began to let everyone know. Goodness -he is barely 40 now, to think he was in his very early 20s when he began his daily reports (which used to be much longer and pure raw data) it blows my mind. Anyone with this kind of discipline has my genuine respect. When, just recently in the last year or two Ben started the live-streams, and people SO easily began donating to him I felt he had earned this, every single penny. Again, I will say, he has a decidedly certain skill. He observed the patterns religiously, hours on end, day in and day out for decades and a potential, and even probability presented to him. He has honed his skill for decades, his dedication to collecting incoming data consistently in real time is to me quite clear (regardless of the in front of the camera persona he also began sharing). His work had at this point gained a foothold of deep appreciation in me. I am far more alert to the sun, the magnetic poles and magnetosphere than I ever would have been otherwise. I have been able to use this data to quite successfully help myself, as I age, and also my elderly care clients. I won't go into details, but what the sun is doing is very important to our health, notably our heart health and increased incidence of stroke (all highly important to those I care for).

    The entire body of Ben's work is online and on his youtube channel. If it were not important, this work, I would not point this out. Like the man or not what he is doing is important. He is young, and like the rest of us he will make mistakes. The most beneficial thing any one of us can do for him, our fellow man, is see him in the highest light, for the greatest good of one and all. This is what will bring just this more out of him. It is not an easy experience, being known to millions of people, his life experience is now connected to everything we think and feel of him. Help him be more successful/beneficial than not, while lifting yourself in the process by sending nothing but the best in thought-streams out into the ocean in which we all swim.

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    Lots of gratitude back to you, Casey!
    I have copied your post to the thread here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1672247
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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    Ben has definitely been angry and miserable for a while, and from what he said recently on one of his updates, the divorce has been dragging on and on, tearing him apart all the while, but has finally been settled, and his late Q&A session showed quite a different Ben.
    Drained no doubt, but more relaxed at least.
    He is a dedicated father with little kids caught in the crossfire of the divorce, which no doubt has been the cause of a lot of misery for him as well, plus the fact that his wife was being unfaithful with one of the resident Preppers for quite a while before it all came to a head.
    As if he didn't have enough to deal with, and all that going on in the intentional community Ben started, where everyone must have been aware of it, no doubt causing a lot of unrest community-wide.

    I don't doubt for a minute that he was reluctant to arrive at the conclusions that he has after all those years of concentrated study and research, but at least it didn't shut him down, quite the opposite.
    And the projects he took on would have been daunting even for someone with huge resources, which he clearly didn't have. He started with nothing, as Casey has pointed out.

    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    Maybe he is right, but he is miserable and angry and driven.
    I do not accept these events in my own reality. It is a flaw in human thinking to anticipate what one would fear so one brings it in. The more I see the coagulating of POV to form connected beliefs, the more I realize that CULT-URE is fracturing at a great rate and there are multitudes of potentials based on what we accept and anticipate. Everything we perceive is the after effect of what we have decided is true. It trickles "down' from the nonphysical through US.

    IMO the spiritual world has many intelligences that influence us to desire our demise. In every case of collective attention to these prophesized events, they do not occur for me. It is as valid for me to continue expecting my own "realm" bumps along with no horrific disaster as it is for him (and all who agree) to have the worst case scenarios. This world really is one where our committment and attention creates. That is the big secret IMO.

    I choose expectation that "all is well" day by day moving into a place of regeneration of the right side up shift to the real. IMO the real is that I as a spiritual being IN THIS EXPERIENCE may have what I most value. LOTS of people value wholesale destruction and doom.

    Because we are all going to exit this world, IMO it is actually inability to face the loss of "this life" that subconsciously cultivates "everyone is doomed". Maybe I am mistaken about the solar flash and grid down? I however THOROUGHLY dimiss it. There is no fear for me or draw towards collecting stuff to survive it at any rate.

    Time will tell. I really prefer what some may call denial and I won't back down. the good news for all is that we reap what we sow. YOUR opinion does not change my experience or vice versa. ONLY when I take your opinion and make it mine does it appear in my field of experience.
    It would be difficult to find any threads on the forum these days that aren't part of what you seem to be unwilling to admit to your reality, Delight.
    It makes me wonder why you haven't abandoned Avalon for some much more New Agey venue.
    The news from around the world is hardly blissful these days, at least not what Avalon members are looking at for the most part.

    I used to try to live in a kind of New Age bubble that filtered out realities I didn't want to admit were real, but I feel a lot more grounded now that I realized how naive I was being and finally got through the stages of denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and on to acceptance.
    I wanted to believe that the Golden Age was right around the corner and something miraculous and wonderful was going to happen soon to make everything clearly start to come right within my lifetime.
    I didn't want to go there when it came to Ben's information, but I couldn't deny my intuitive feeling that he was onto something, and once my spirit guides informed me that my own suspicions based on his were correct, I had to bite the bullet.

    Human beings exist on many planes simultaneously, but the realtities of the material plane cannot be denied and are not changed according to human whims.
    Physical laws just don't bend according to our mortal desires.
    The Great Central Sun of this galaxy has certain regular cycles as the late Dr. Paul la Violette posited, and the evidence of that is becoming more and more clear, though the Shift that current 12,000 year cycle is causing is happening a lot faster than he originally thought.
    All solar systems will logically be affected eventually as the huge shift of energy coming from the Central Sun progresses through the galaxy, and it will affect our Sun soon, evidently within the next 2-3 decades at the latest.

    Souls still incarnating physically relocate to different planets when necessary.
    Many souls that are incarnate here now came here from elsewhere, and many will relocate to different planets and planes of existence when conditions on Earth become much less habitable due to the coming Shift.
    That's just seems to be another part of the reincarnational journey on this physical plane of existence.

    How we experience it all on a spiritual level is an individual matter, depending on where we are in our spiritual evolution, but no individual can change the laws of physics that govern material reality, no matter how much they may want to.
    The Creator made things the way they are and each of us are only a miniscule part of that Consciousness.
    We may create our own reality to a certain extent, but there are definitely limits to that ability.

    Here's a great article I just "happened upon" "coincidentally" just a moment ago (Synchronicity Happens) that sums it up almost as well as Ben could, though the part about what happens when "continental excursion" occurs is minimal. From:
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/comin...ette-jr-a7u4c/


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    The 12,000-Year Warning: Scientists Confront the Reality of an Impending Solar Cataclysm

    Author: George Burdette Jr. Affiliation: Independent Researcher, Science and Technology Studies

    For decades, the idea that Earth undergoes periodic cataclysmic events—driven by solar activity and geomagnetic shifts—has been dismissed or ignored by mainstream science. However, mounting evidence from multiple disciplines, including space weather research, geology, and astrophysics, is forcing a reluctant admission that a major event could be imminent.

    The convergence of several factors—including the weakening of Earth’s magnetic field, the increasing interstellar plasma density detected by Voyager probes, and evidence from past geomagnetic excursions—suggests that a solar micronova and a rapid pole shift could be due within the next 30 years.

    This article examines the unfolding scientific acknowledgment of these events, the historical cycles that predict them, and what they could mean for the future of humanity

    Breaking the Wall of Denial: The Reluctant Admission of Catastrophe
    For much of modern history, institutions have maintained that Earth’s geological and climatic changes occur gradually over millions of years. However, discoveries in paleomagnetism, astrophysics, and planetary science suggest that Earth's environment can shift rapidly, with catastrophic consequences.

    A growing number of researchers are now recognizing that:

    Earth’s magnetic field is weakening and shifting unpredictably.
    The sun undergoes cyclic explosive events, known as micronovas, that may occur every 12,000 years.
    Interstellar environmental factors, such as increased cosmic dust and plasma density, influence solar and terrestrial activity.
    Past civilizations may have been destroyed by these recurring cataclysms, leaving behind clues in mythology and ancient ruins.

    The increasing volume of peer-reviewed studies, satellite observations, and geological findings is making it harder for governments and scientific organizations to dismiss these possibilities outright.

    The 12,000-Year Cataclysm Cycle
    One of the most compelling pieces of evidence for an impending event is the 12,000-year cycle of major Earth changes, which can be traced through magnetic excursions, climate disruptions, and mass extinctions.

    Magnetic Excursions and Pole Shifts
    Earth’s magnetic field does not remain stable—it fluctuates, weakens, and occasionally undergoes rapid shifts known as geomagnetic excursions or full reversals. Some of the most well-documented events include:

    Laschamps Event (~42,000 years ago): A temporary collapse of Earth’s magnetic field, leading to increased cosmic radiation, climate shifts, and possible megafaunal extinctions.
    Hilina Pali Excursion (~12,000 years ago): Occurred during the Younger Dryas period, a time of abrupt global cooling and catastrophic environmental changes.
    Other cyclical reversals (~24,000, ~36,000 years ago, etc.): Follow a pattern suggesting a predictable 12,000-year interval.

    These shifts correlate with climate anomalies, mass extinctions, and possible human population bottlenecks—indicating that the effects are severe enough to reshape civilization itself.

    The Sun’s Role: Micronova Hypothesis
    A micronova is a small-scale stellar explosion, previously only observed in binary and now singular systems. However, recent discoveries suggest that our sun may undergo similar periodic outbursts, releasing massive amounts of energy and plasma.

    The theory suggests that:

    Interstellar plasma density influences solar activity. As the solar system moves into a denser interstellar region, the sun accumulates charge, eventually triggering a coronal shell ejection.
    Micronova events happen roughly every 12,000 years. The last event may have been responsible for the end of the Younger Dryas period and the mass extinction of megafauna.
    When the sun darkens before a micronova, it signals an imminent eruption. This is caused by interstellar dust temporarily suppressing solar output before the eventual burst.

    Evidence supporting this theory includes the presence of iron-60 (Fe-60) isotopes in oceanic, lunar, and Mars samples, which are remnants of past stellar explosions. These isotopes suggest that Earth has previously been bombarded by material from solar micronova.

    New Scientific Revelations: What the Space Weather Community Can No Longer Deny
    Voyager Probes and the 10% Increase in Interstellar Density
    NASA’s Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 spacecraft have provided groundbreaking data on the solar system’s movement through interstellar space. After crossing the heliopause, both probes recorded:

    A 10% increase in interstellar plasma density, higher than previously predicted.
    A shrinking heliosphere, allowing more cosmic rays and charged particles to reach Earth.
    The solar system’s transition into a denser region of space, which may be amplifying solar activity.

    This suggests that Earth’s space environment is changing in ways that could directly impact the sun’s behavior and our planet’s magnetosphere.

    The Weakening Magnetic Field and Accelerating Pole Shift
    Earth’s magnetic field is weakening at an alarming rate, losing 9% of its strength over the past 170 years. The magnetic poles are also shifting at an accelerating pace:

    The North Magnetic Pole is moving toward Siberia at an increasing speed.
    The South Atlantic Anomaly, a weakened region of Earth’s magnetic field, continues to expand.

    If this weakening continues, it could lead to a full-blown magnetic reversal and excursion, increasing Earth’s exposure to cosmic radiation and solar storms.

    Implications for Earth’s Future
    Micronova Impact: The Sun’s Darkening and Final Burst
    Before a micronova occurs, interstellar dust buildup around the sun could cause a temporary dimming of solar output, leading to:

    Abrupt climate cooling (mini ice age).
    Disruptions to agricultural production and food shortages.
    Extreme weather patterns due to shifting atmospheric currents.

    When the sun’s energy reaches a breaking point, the accumulated material is expelled violently in a micronova event. The plasma ejecta would:

    Overwhelm Earth’s weakened magnetosphere.
    Cause massive electrical storms, leading to global power grid failures.
    Heat the upper atmosphere, triggering severe environmental changes.

    Pole Shift Consequences: Earth’s Crustal Displacement
    A geomagnetic reversal or excursion could destabilize Earth’s crust, resulting in:

    Increased seismic and volcanic activity.
    Rapid climate shifts as different regions move into new latitudes.
    Potential flooding events due to ocean redistribution and tsunamis.

    Historical records, such as the myths of Atlantis and other lost civilizations, may be remnants of real-world events linked to previous pole shifts and micronova activity.

    The Urgency of Preparedness and Open Discussion
    Despite the overwhelming evidence, mainstream scientific institutions and governments have been reluctant to fully acknowledge the possibility of an imminent micronova and pole shift. The reasons for this may include:

    Economic and political stability concerns. Admitting the reality of such an event could create societal panic.
    Lack of public preparedness measures. Infrastructure and emergency response systems are not designed for such catastrophic events.
    Scientific inertia. Many institutions resist paradigm shifts that challenge long-held assumptions.

    However, as more data emerges, the reality of these cycles is becoming harder to ignore. The time for open discussion and preparation is now.

    The Countdown to Cataclysm
    The convergence of scientific findings—ranging from geomagnetic excursions to increased interstellar plasma density—suggests that Earth is rapidly approaching another 12,000-year catastrophe cycle. The reluctance of the scientific community to openly discuss these dangers is being eroded by new data, forcing a slow but inevitable acknowledgment of what may lie ahead.

    Humanity stands at a crossroads. Will we recognize and prepare for the approaching upheaval, or will we repeat the mistakes of lost civilizations, blindsided by forces greater than ourselves?

    The signs are clear. The denials are fading. The time to act is now.
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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    I have been watching Ben's daily updates for a decade or more and have learned a lot in that time.
    So has he... Somewhere along that journey he had thought that he had figured out how coronal hole streams caused earth quakes and after a long time of getting those correlations he had to admit it doesnt always work like that and then dropped the earth quake forecasts right down again.
    It was after learning about Douglas Vougt's work that he became convinced about the existence of the re occurring micronavs scenario.
    Now if you made it through any or all of Douglas Vogt's presentations, kudos to you, the man was hard work...
    He strung together a very convincing and coherent story however. So that was way more important then his angry and clumsy presentation style.
    A lot of these geniuses are great in their field and at the same time socially arkward in some way.

    I was a member of the old suspicious observers website and it was a great resource with weekly audio recordings of discussions between Ben and others. Also a big library of videos from Billy Yelvertons plasma lab. I cant find those anywhere now.. sadly..
    When that site was decommissioned, a lot was lost, and it seemed back then there could have been a falling out between people because of Ben's intensity...

    Personally I feel that Ben is not somenody I would like to spend time with, not my kind of guy... but I think that his work is of the uttermost importance.
    I have no interest in his personal life or his prepper ranch...

    His daily updates are exellent in content and presented well, which is why I am happy to post them every day.
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