Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

[Johnnycomelately]

Nah, this guy's kind of a spaz.

Dear Sis, gotta evaluate people on how they act, not how they tickle your fun/truth sensors.

Posted by onawah (here)
You might find it interesting to listen to this interview of Ben:
https://podbay.fm/p/the-delingpod-th...49551253?t=323
I think you will discover he's a lot different than you imagine, maybe not your cup of tea, but certainly interesting and unique.
His training as a lawyer probably puts a lot of people off, but his reason for becoming a lawyer wasn't at all what motivates most lawyers, but it's served him well in learning how to succeed in the System.
But he's very much an idealist and uses that knowledge as an idealist does, not an opportunist.
He is very clued in to the occult, the NWO and how many Satanists there are operating and controlling behind the scenes, and what their game plan and mindset is, though he's not really very afraid of them.
I find his take on what goes on between the "white hats" and "black hats" and what's in the Bible and the Book of Enoch, etc. is right on.
So he's very canny, and has high moral standards even though he doesn't suffer fools gladly.
He was a chess champion as a child, beating even high school champions, is a speed reader with a highly retentive memory, obviously brilliant with a very high IQ, an extremely retentive memory, and is very driven, with a sort of hyperactive but very focused mind.
I don't imagine he's easy to get along with, and obviously has a very ironic sense of humor, but he's pretty fascinating.

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Fifteen minutes is what you base your asssessment on, Mike? I hope you don't really expect anyone to take that very seriously.
He's carrying a lot of responsibility on his shoulders with a lot of people depending on him for their survival, and working very hard to be worthy of it.
I would say that could make anyone a bit nervous.

Posted by Mike (here)
This guy's kind of a spaz. That's not much of a contribution to the thread, but it's all I got.

I watched maybe 15 mins of him, but I had to turn it off. I just couldn't do it. And it wasn't because of his pessimism necessarily. It was because it was like watching a speed addict hold forth on something they imagine is brilliant within the glow of their high..but not being high myself I couldn't appreciate it.

Any beer drinking college students who happen to find themselves in the presence of a room full of coke heads can appreciate my observation here maybe. That's what it reminds me of. This guy is just on a weird wavelength.

I already admitted it's not much of a contribution!

[onawah]

Did you listen to the interview with James Delingpole?
It's pretty interesting and it's not just an intellectual discussion, it's an interaction between two very different kinds of personalities.

Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
Nah, this guy's kind of a spaz.

Dear Sis, gotta evaluate people on how they act, not how they tickle your fun/truth sensors.

Posted by onawah (here)
You might find it interesting to listen to this interview of Ben:
https://podbay.fm/p/the-delingpod-th...49551253?t=323
I think you will discover he's a lot different than you imagine, maybe not your cup of tea, but certainly interesting and unique.
His training as a lawyer probably puts a lot of people off, but his reason for becoming a lawyer wasn't at all what motivates most lawyers, but it's served him well in learning how to succeed in the System.
But he's very much an idealist and uses that knowledge as an idealist does, not an opportunist.
He is very clued in to the occult, the NWO and how many Satanists there are operating and controlling behind the scenes, and what their game plan and mindset is, though he's not really very afraid of them.
I find his take on what goes on between the "white hats" and "black hats" and what's in the Bible and the Book of Enoch, etc. is right on.
So he's very canny, and has high moral standards even though he doesn't suffer fools gladly.
He was a chess champion as a child, beating even high school champions, is a speed reader with a highly retentive memory, obviously brilliant with a very high IQ, an extremely retentive memory, and is very driven, with a sort of hyperactive but very focused mind.
I don't imagine he's easy to get along with, and obviously has a very ironic sense of humor, but he's pretty fascinating.

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
Fifteen minutes is what you base your asssessment on, Mike? I hope you don't really expect anyone to take that very seriously.
He's carrying a lot of responsibility on his shoulders with a lot of people depending on him for their survival, and working very hard to be worthy of it.
I would say that could make anyone a bit nervous.

Posted by Mike (here)
This guy's kind of a spaz. That's not much of a contribution to the thread, but it's all I got.

I watched maybe 15 mins of him, but I had to turn it off. I just couldn't do it. And it wasn't because of his pessimism necessarily. It was because it was like watching a speed addict hold forth on something they imagine is brilliant within the glow of their high..but not being high myself I couldn't appreciate it.

Any beer drinking college students who happen to find themselves in the presence of a room full of coke heads can appreciate my observation here maybe. That's what it reminds me of. This guy is just on a weird wavelength.

I already admitted it's not much of a contribution!

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
Nah, this guy's kind of a spaz.

Dear Sis, gotta evaluate people on how they act

No, in this kind of situation we gotta evaluate people on the value of the data they present.

[lightpotential]

Posted by Jaak (here)
Suspicious observers has indeed ended up a bit... suspicious.
I dont know much about prices in USA but 65-100 dollars to sleep one night in a caravan seems a bit much for me .
Starts to give Harold Camping vibes who endlessly kept predicting when the world will end and made millions while doing so from the poor suckers who believed him.
Information he gives is certainly interesting but that he tries to sell some merchandise etc while doing it is a bit off putting.

And some have called him a cult leader a long time ago . (im not a big fan of that professor dave ,he seems like a gatekeeper but he does make a couple of good points in this video ).

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3fTLZTEE7mU

As much as Professor Dave (from ‘Professor Dave Explains’ YouTube channel) is a smarmy cock, I do believe there is some truth to what he says about Ben not fully understanding the scientific papers that he cites for his videos. His videos are mostly brief and when he speaks he does not really appear to demonstrate a keen insight into many of the topics that he brings up.

He just presents things, and gives a supreme air of confidence that he fully understands what they mean, and that the explanation that he gives is absolutely correct. That is my impression of him.

I did once have a private e-mail exchange with him, albeit very brief, about seven years ago. He really did demonstrate a bad attitude, when I asked him to consider a certain line of research. I have never contacted him since.

With regard to the 12,000 year cycle that he mentions, I think that it is entirely fictitious. He ties it to the end of the Younger Dryas period, circa 12,800 years ago or 10,800 BC. There was indeed a disaster that occurred at this time, but it was tied in to a very special planetary alignment. That was the real cause.

It is a celestial pattern that is recurring, and on a cycle far shorter than 12,000 years. This is detailed on my website with the following essay:

https://www.lostagesecrets.com/The-G...orld-Ages.html

It was this connection that I attempted to bring to Ben's attention. Just merely suggesting it caused quite an antagonistic response.

Keith

[onawah]

Another great post, Casey. Thanks
As Ben has pointed out, the fact that the elites have spent untold stolen sums of taxpayer dollars to build their DUMBS without realizing how unsafe they will be when the ground really starts moving is certainly testimony to their level of capability.
Not to mention the building of other bolt holes near coastlines .

I think one of Ben's problems with communicating is probably that his brain retains such a huge quantity of information with so many dots continually being connected. It can come rushing out at so rapid a pace it's difficult for most people to keep up, so he may end up feeling like he's in a kind of void.
I just hope that there will be people at the Observer Ranch events and joining his community who can keep up, and supply good feedback and support to keep the pressure at a minimum.
Mentally, he probably feels like an Olympic swimmer surrounded by dog paddlers much of the time.

Posted by Casey Claar (here)
People tend to like to think the proverbial "they" are so powerful. I would agree with Ben, they are not. Those achieving the SHAREABLE wave are. Most of what is fed to us is smoke and mirrors. The "all powerful Oz" behind the curtain. Many of us do like to sustain that illusion. One of the many ways we do this is by thinking "they" are more capable than they are. Like he says, they just love for us to believe this.

PS--agreed-- the discussion with Bret Weinstein is very worthwhile...


Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v4t1gpo/?pub=4

[neutronstar]

Yes, but in this case the data he is presenting is not necessarily what he believes.

A few years ago I was reading through some comments on a video that Doug Vogt put out. I can't remember which one. A person asked Doug about the differences that Ben has with what is about to happen. Doug replied by saying that Ben believes Doug's version of what will happen, but can't say that because the scientists that Ben is getting information from would stop talking to him. Doug said he understands, Ben has a family to support and this is how he makes his living.

I listen to what Ben has to say on the science side(with discernment), not the ask me anything live streams. I can't get through more than a few minutes. He has some deep emotional issues. But what gets my conspiratorial mind going is why would the scientist run if he said he agrees with Doug's version of events to come?

Doug's version comes mostly with receipts. I also believe Doug is probably closer to the truth.

I have my own thoughts on Ben but will keep them to myself because it is all speculation, but I believe there is a lot more to this story that what we are told.

[Casey Claar]

Posted by neutronstar (here)
I listen to what Ben has to say on the science side(with discernment), not the ask me anything live streams.

I find this wise --the live-streams are mostly, and perhaps best for those who have an existing handle on his interpretation(s) of the data. And who can put up with the certain lack of tact.

Do you want to give us a thumbnail version of Doug Vogt's rundown? and how/where it differs from Ben's?

Thanks!!

[onawah]

Where it seems Ben drew the line with the research from the late Doug Vogt:

From: https://dieholdfoundation.com/#

You may wonder why a science foundation whose goals are to study the causes of the ice ages and polar reversals and develop an information theory of existence would get involved in studying the Torah, Bible, Old Testament. The reasons are what the founder discovered about the Hebrew Alphabet. He also discovered that the exact number of years between geomagnetic reversals was embedded as code in the surface story of the Torah. The second discovery was that the Hebrew alphabet and the Torah are the product of a very highly advanced previous civilization that had the same information theory of existence as the one we are developing, the Theory of Multidimensional Reality. There is much more to the whole explanation, and the books and videos present the whole story
The Hebrew Alphabet is the Key

After eight years of research and testing, our founder discovered that the Hebrew alphabet is the result of 22 views of a waveform that is a modified square wave. This waveform is superimposed on a toroid shape that represents how a carbon atom modulates into this dimension. This part of our research is found in the book Creation of the Hebrew Alphabet. The Library of Congress indexed this book, Quantum Computing, and that is exactly what is described in the book. The Hebrew alphabet and the Torah are the products of a very highly advanced previous civilization that once lived on the Earth. The important part of this research is that this advanced civilization must have had the same information philosophy of existence as explained in the Theory of Multidimensional Reality, or else Mr. Vogt could not have discovered its origin. Abraham purchased the Cave of Machpelah not just as a burial site but really because of the technology found deep inside.

More here: http://thedieholdfoundation.com/index.html

Posted by neutronstar (here)
Yes, but in this case the data he is presenting is not necessarily what he believes.

A few years ago I was reading through some comments on a video that Doug Vogt put out. I can't remember which one. A person asked Doug about the differences that Ben has with what is about to happen. Doug replied by saying that Ben believes Doug's version of what will happen, but can't say that because the scientists that Ben is getting information from would stop talking to him. Doug said he understands, Ben has a family to support and this is how he makes his living.

I listen to what Ben has to say on the science side(with discernment), not the ask me anything live streams. I can't get through more than a few minutes. He has some deep emotional issues. But what gets my conspiratorial mind going is why would the scientist run if he said he agrees with Doug's version of events to come?

Doug's version comes mostly with receipts. I also believe Doug is probably closer to the truth.

I have my own thoughts on Ben but will keep them to myself because it is all speculation, but I believe there is a lot more to this story that what we are told.

[neutronstar]

Doug believes the earth reverses its spin. The Rand Corporation figured out the magnetic field is the driver of earths rotation, when the field reverses so to does the spin. This explains the deep caverns that are cut on the west and east coast of America going all the way to the sea floor. Ben says the flood will come from the Gulf of Mexico. We don't see these caverns going north and south, only east and west.

He also believed the twisting of the Suns magnetic field is what causes the micronova. It whines up like a spring in a clock. There is an accurate clock inside the Sun that makes it's cycles(the magnetic field). The Sun's magnetic field spins faster at the equator than the poles. It eventually snaps back and creates a shockwave on the Sun that blows it's outer layer(micronova). Ben says it's the galactic current sheet.

Doug also doesn't think there is a crustal shift as Ben does.

[Casey Claar]

Thank you, neutronstar, this is helpful information. If you have a link where Doug explains this himself please do post it. Thank you, again.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by neutronstar (here)
Doug believes the earth reverses its spin. The Rand Corporation figured out the magnetic field is the driver of earths rotation, when the field reverses so to does the spin.

The Earth, as a spinning ball in space, is in its own inertial frame of reference in which rotational (angular) momentum has to be conserved.

In lay language, that means that unless some (large!) external force is applied to the Earth, there's no way it could suddenly start spinning the other way. Everything I believe know about physics tells me that's impossible.

Slightly different is the Dzhanibekov Effect, and we have an interesting thread about that here:

• Why the Russians classified a rotating weightless wingnut: they thought the Earth might flip (the Dzhanibekov effect)

Here's the famous little video:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1x5UiwEEvpQ

What this shows is that an asymmetrical rotating object can flip right over all on its own — but (regarding the conservation of angular momentum) it never actually reverses its spin.

What alarmed the Russians was that Planet Earth isn't a perfect sphere, but itself is slightly asymmetrical — so (in theory, maybe!) the Earth might sometime flip all on its own, just like the rotating wingnut.

[Johnnycomelately]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by neutronstar (here)
Doug believes the earth reverses its spin. The Rand Corporation figured out the magnetic field is the driver of earths rotation, when the field reverses so to does the spin.

The Earth, as a spinning ball in space, is in its own inertial frame of reference in which rotational (angular) momentum has to be conserved.

In lay language, that means that unless some (large!) external force is applied to the Earth, there's no way it could suddenly start spinning the other way. Everything I believe know about physics tells me that's impossible.

Slightly different is the Dzhanibekov Effect, and we have an interesting thread about that here:


What alarmed the Russians was that Planet Earth isn't a perfect sphere, but itself is slightly asymmetrical — so (in theory, maybe!) the Earth might sometime flip all on its own, just like the rotating wingnut.

The Dizzy Effect is an interesting one. As applied to planet Earth, if it applies at all, it may be associated with structural density irregularities in iirc the Mantle, that Ben D. has spoken about and descriptively imaged.


I am not a fan of either of the tilt theories, whole planet or just crust. The crust one seems especially wacky, for reasons I’ve stated before, but they are both inane. Same frame as flat earth thinking.

[neutronstar]

Posted by Casey Claar (here)
Thank you, neutronstar, this is helpful information. If you have a link where Doug explains this himself please do post it. Thank you, again.

Doug has passed away but all of his videos are still online here. Most of what Doug talks about isn't his theories, it is from published scientific journals which he provides in his videos.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...6VuJWNpge5OP-M

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
I am not a fan of either of the tilt theories, whole planet or just crust. The crust one seems especially wacky, for reasons I’ve stated before, but they are both inane. Same frame as flat earth thinking.

Well, it's happened before! (Tropical fossils in Antarctica, etc.) We just don't know:

1. Why.
2. When (or if) it might happen again.

[neutronstar]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by neutronstar (here)
Doug believes the earth reverses its spin. The Rand Corporation figured out the magnetic field is the driver of earths rotation, when the field reverses so to does the spin.

The Earth, as a spinning ball in space, is in its own inertial frame of reference in which rotational (angular) momentum has to be conserved.

In lay language, that means that unless some (large!) external force is applied to the Earth, there's no way it could suddenly start spinning the other way. Everything I believe know about physics tells me that's impossible.

Slightly different is the Dzhanibekov Effect, and we have an interesting thread about that here:

• Why the Russians classified a rotating weightless wingnut: they thought the Earth might flip (the Dzhanibekov effect)

Here's the famous little video:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1x5UiwEEvpQ

What this shows is that an asymmetrical rotating object can flip right over all on its own — but (regarding the conservation of angular momentum) it never actually reverses its spin.

What alarmed the Russians was that Planet Earth isn't a perfect sphere, but itself is slightly asymmetrical — so (in theory, maybe!) the Earth might sometime flip all on its own, just like the rotating wingnut.

I don't really have a dog in this fight one way or the other. I have heard the arguments for and against the idea of the earth changing rotation, but I am not going to claim to have the final answer.

As far as the laws of physics, our laws our incomplete and maybe on purpose, but I am not smart enough to be the one who can resolve those issues.

But to reply to your statement if the engine that drives the earth's rotation is the magnetic field you wouldn't need an external force. At least from my own non expert opinion. And it explains the deep caverns that are carved on the continental shelves that go all the way to the ocean floor. Either way something is missing because those caverns cannot be made with all that water still there.

[meat suit]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by neutronstar (here)
Doug believes the earth reverses its spin. The Rand Corporation figured out the magnetic field is the driver of earths rotation, when the field reverses so to does the spin.

The Earth, as a spinning ball in space, is in its own inertial frame of reference in which rotational (angular) momentum has to be conserved.

In lay language, that means that unless some (large!) external force is applied to the Earth, there's no way it could suddenly start spinning the other way. Everything I believe know about physics tells me that's impossible.

Slightly different is the Dzhanibekov Effect, and we have an interesting thread about that here:

• Why the Russians classified a rotating weightless wingnut: they thought the Earth might flip (the Dzhanibekov effect)

Here's the famous little video:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1x5UiwEEvpQ

What this shows is that an asymmetrical rotating object can flip right over all on its own — but (regarding the conservation of angular momentum) it never actually reverses its spin.

What alarmed the Russians was that Planet Earth isn't a perfect sphere, but itself is slightly asymmetrical — so (in theory, maybe!) the Earth might sometime flip all on its own, just like the rotating wingnut.

I may as well link this here from the 'Ethical sceptic' as it is a great theory on the mechanism of the disaster cycle.
https://theethicalskeptic.com/2024/0...do-hypothesis/

If you havent seen this, I higly recommend it..

[onawah]

Electric grid failure

Posted by onawah (here)
I just recalled something important that Ben explained recently about a solar "killshot" big enough to take down the Earth's electric grid.
He corrected the assumption that such an event would only target the side of the planet facing the Sun when it occurred.
He said it would actually take down the grid planetwide because of the manner in which the energy encompasses the whole planet once it hits a certain layer of the planet's normal atmosphere (I use that term loosely), whereupon it would distribute itself evenly around the planet.
If it was sufficient to take the grid down on one side, it would have an equal effect on the other as well.
So if there was a failure of the electric grid in the US due to a solar event (which is what I was thinking would be a likely example of what Bill describes from his vision), it would be not a local, but a planetary disaster.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I'll say it more simply (and far less elegantly!): I have no concern about Ben's personality, his personal affairs, or what he may or may not be doing at the Observer Ranch.

I'm only interested in the data he reports, which I'm as sure as I can be might be very important. As some of you may be aware, 6 months ago in November 2024 I received a strong clear message — twice! — from an unknown invisible source, that a major solar event would strike and incapacitate the US in (I believe) early 2029.

While I can't possibly know for sure if that will happen (let alone prove the 'reality' of my experience!), it all felt extremely vivid, real and plausible to me. Moreover. it's 100% consistent with the level of increased solar activity Ben Davidson has been predicting for a while now. That's why I follow his updates daily.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Delight (here)
It is a flaw in human thinking to anticipate what one would fear so one brings it in.

The question in my mind then becomes whether a fear of mine regarding some anticipated event will likely influence whether that event occurs.

If, as in the case of the major geophysical crisis anticipated by Ben Davidson, I conclude that such an event will occur or not, regardless of my state of mind, or even of my very existence, then adapting my state of mind to what's best for me and the life around me, to what's best, accepting that the event is essentially entirely outside my influence, is the best course.

If on the other hand, my state of mind likely influences that event, then perhaps I can influence it in a beneficial way, or to not even occur, by adapting my state of mind.

The more likely and consequential I figure a potential future event to be, then the more sustained focus it is worth my investing in dealing with it, whether by influencing it to not occur if that's likely within my power, or dealing with it if not.

I doubt the electricity, magnetism, plasma and matter of the earth, solar system and its surrounds in our galaxy give three sub-atomic hoots about my state of mind. So I adapt and anticipate, to ride out (or not) likely storms as best as I and my family, friends and communities can muster.

[onawah]

Exactly! The logic is obvious. To reword it:
We may choose what our response will be to certain events, and we may actually change in part the outcome of some events.
But there are events that are far beyond the power of the individual to change, such as the recurring cycles of Nature and of the Universe.
We may through soul evolution move to a higher dimension of being, a more non-material one where presumably we are not affected as much by 3D events.
But if we are incarnating in 3D we can only act in order to get through the events which we cannot change as best we can.
Telling ourselves that such events do not affect us can help as a coping mechanism if it's done with full consciousness and not just as a reaction of denial, but it doesn't deter the overall 3D reality of such events occurring.

As Casey has pointed out, humans currently incarnate on Earth are at various, very different stages in evolutionary development.
Some will survive the coming changes to become the new ancestors of the next Age on Earth, some will incarnate on other worlds to continue their 3D journey under similar circumstances as the ones they are leaving, others may continue their journey to a less material plane of existence, having finished with the kind of experiencing that Earth 3D reality provides.
It may not all just be a one-way journey; in the last case it seems that souls return sometimes to a lower plane for further lessons or to take on new assignments, if only temporarily.

The various scientists from various branches of science whose data Ben Davidson has been collecting over the years agree that the 12,000 year cycles of the past have been "extinction events" in that many species of animals became extinct.
But new species also appeared, and in the case of human beings, there have been enough humans who survived and reproduced to ensure the continuing survival of the species into the future.
And/or there may also have been ETs who travelled to Earth in order to add their DNA to the genetic pool, and/or who may have lived out their own lives and reincarnated here in order to give human evolution a boost (and/or, contrarily, to use it for their own purposes, in the case of regressive ET races).
Do souls in levels of higher consciousness have access to the Akashic Records in some celestial library, to discover the facts about Earth's history?
Would it take what we think of as the span of lifetimes to take even a portion of it in?
From this vantage point, we can only catch fascinating glimpses...

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by Delight (here)
It is a flaw in human thinking to anticipate what one would fear so one brings it in.

The question in my mind then becomes whether a fear of mine regarding some anticipated event will likely influence whether that event occurs.

If, as in the case of the major geophysical crisis anticipated by Ben Davidson, I conclude that such an event will occur or not, regardless of my state of mind, or even of my very existence, then adapting my state of mind to what's best for me and the life around me, to what's best, accepting that the event is essentially entirely outside my influence, is the best course.

If on the other hand, my state of mind likely influences that event, then perhaps I can influence it in a beneficial way, or to not even occur, by adapting my state of mind.

The more likely and consequential I figure a potential future event to be, then the more sustained focus it is worth my investing in dealing with it, whether by influencing it to not occur if that's likely within my power, or dealing with it if not.

I doubt the electricity, magnetism, plasma and matter of the earth, solar system and its surrounds in our galaxy give three sub-atomic hoots about my state of mind. So I adapt and anticipate, to ride out (or not) likely storms as best as I and my family, friends and communities can muster.

[Delight]

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by Delight (here)
It is a flaw in human thinking to anticipate what one would fear so one brings it in.

The question in my mind then becomes whether a fear of mine regarding some anticipated event will likely influence whether that event occurs.

If, as in the case of the major geophysical crisis anticipated by Ben Davidson, I conclude that such an event will occur or not, regardless of my state of mind, or even of my very existence, then adapting my state of mind to what's best for me and the life around me, to what's best, accepting that the event is essentially entirely outside my influence, is the best course.

If on the other hand, my state of mind likely influences that event, then perhaps I can influence it in a beneficial way, or to not even occur, by adapting my state of mind.

The more likely and consequential I figure a potential future event to be, then the more sustained focus it is worth my investing in dealing with it, whether by influencing it to not occur if that's likely within my power, or dealing with it if not.

I doubt the electricity, magnetism, plasma and matter of the earth, solar system and its surrounds in our galaxy give three sub-atomic hoots about my state of mind. So I adapt and anticipate, to ride out (or not) likely storms as best as I and my family, friends and communities can muster.

My working hypothesis is that I am sure we are energetic beings. What we perceive is a construct. It is foolish according to the world view to deny

the major geophysical crisis anticipated by Ben Davidson, I conclude that such an event will occur or not, regardless of my state of mind, or even of my very existence, then adapting my state of mind to what's best for me and the life around me, to what's best, accepting that the event is essentially entirely outside my influence, is the best course.

We are in a collective experience but NOT ONE of us is perceiving "the world" in the same way or having the same experience.
The "Collective" is a program and Sol Luckman whom I was listening to speak tonight says that it is based on being guided to create for the archontic force. The strongest narrative believed and acted on "wins".

It is NOT real but we imagine it into a material "reality". The world tells us we are fools if we don't constantly feed (believe) the collective narrative of the day based on "science". Of course there are major arguments about the science.

At 42:54 Luckman talks about how our energy is looshed by "where we place attention". At 44:27 he is talking about people DRIVEN into following narratives.

I hear Luckman talking about this as dream within dream. IMO it makes sense that I came to wrestle with the "material" sense of it with all the rabbit holes. I do follow the still small voice which clearly shows me what I do not choose to energize. I focus on what I CHOOSE> My experience is absolutely as a beginner cultivating what I am 100% able to FEEL is my choice. Maybe I am mistaken but ironically, in this recursive dream, BE CAUSE I commit fully to my inner knowing, it MUST manifest according to my deep belief.

This world is NOT what we think. It is a wild construct which feeds back evidence of whatever we believe. Right now there is a collective overweaning DOOM narrative (in all sorts of story lines).

I don't believe what luckman says. Some just chimes with me YES. Some sounds like NO. IMO thinking people can observe and make up our minds.

At 53:19 Luckman speaks to me strongly about our dilemma in the world of recursive realm of nested cult traps. I choose knowing this is a construct where I have CHOICE. There will not be doom for me. I love being a fool.

What If Everything You’ve Been Told about “Reality” Is Wrong? And What If the Truth Is Empowering?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LCEWVOc8k8I