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    Default Re: Why the Russians classified a rotating weightless wingnut: they thought the Earth might flip (the Dzhanibekov effect)

    Quote Posted by justntime2learn (here)
    The following video is two years old to aid in the clarification.

    Quote The earth is an object in space, it's not flat, and it's also not a perfect sphere. But it is subject to the laws of physics, and since there is much debate about the earths geometric shape, global warming and why the weather is getting increasingly more extreme, without taking any sides, I provide an explanation that the earth is subject to the laws that can be seen in all spinning objects in space and explained using the Dzhanibekov effect, also know as the tennis racquet effect. This also looks the same as the earths poles flipping, but I think the dzhanibekov effect is a better explanation. ~ Sean Wasere
    Ha. That's super-scary interesting. (Tip: watch parts of the video on YouTube at 0.25 speed, to better see what's happening.)

    I'd love to see a version where the earth's gravitational anomalies aren't so exaggerated in the model, and see if it still flips after a while. I'd expect it would, but this whole phenomenon is so weird and counter-intuitive that nothing would really surprise me.

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    Default Re: Why the Russians classified a rotating weightless wingnut: they thought the Earth might flip (the Dzhanibekov effect)

    Interesting indeed.

    This is not at all what would be expected of the interior of a planet formed by accretion. The gravitational anomalies are too exaggerated and suggest the result of a disastrously large impact some time in the past. This would also account for the wobble in the spin and the wild swings in the orbit of our planet.

    In addition, the regular visits of large clouds of asteroids and meteors which can be reasonably presumed to be the remnants of that ancient collision, make the proposition convincing.

    Regular planets do not develop a tendency to flip over unless some other agent has perturbed the system in the past.
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    Default Re: Why the Russians classified a rotating weightless wingnut: they thought the Earth might flip (the Dzhanibekov effect)

    I see there are multiple threads with the same video. This is where the previous post on the other thread should be. Sorry about that.

    We all understand how a top spins up, remains stable, develops a wobble, turns into a serious perturbation, falls over, stands back up, attempts to stabilize again, wobbles again and finally falls over and stops. This has to do with injecting a dynamic system into another dynamic system in an attempt to achieve dynamic equilibrium.

    We might understand how a gyroscope works. Three spinning tops at right angles to each other to maintain a fixed reference point. In order to achieve this stability, energy has to be expended keeping the gyros spinning.

    In the Earth's case, the system and the spinning planet came into existence at the same time. Therefore, equilibrium was merely the entire system adjusting itself to its internal preset conditions. There is no dynamic equilibrium to adjust to.

    But if after its creation, the planet drifted to another location due to a collision with another body, then the equilibrium of the original system is disturbed and dynamic equilibrium becomes a very real problem. Actually, it could be argued that dynamic equilibrium cannot ever be achieved by two separate systems in close proximity without catastrophic readjustment.

    That is why I believe the video portraying the earth flipping over does not do justice to the actual possibility. The model has been modified to highlight the flipping. Why would this need to have been done? If the true model of the gravity anomalies of the earth were used it should still have flipped over and I cannot think of a reason to mess with that result other than because it did not fit the desired result they were looking for in the first place.

    But how does one argue against the illustrious Ben Davidson? They shouldn't, certainly I shouldn't...

    One more point. The Earth is not an isolated entity. It resides in a dynamic environment that it must adjust to both by absorbing and emitting energy. If the energy absorbed translates into inertia, the spinning top has more energy to overcome its wobble - or to magnify it. The results of this complicated exchange cannot be modeled by a dude at a computer work station. It can only be an over-simplification and nothing more.

    It is rather convincing though, and scary.
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    Default Re: Why the Russians classified a rotating weightless wingnut: they thought the Earth might flip (the Dzhanibekov effect)

    Bumping this VERY interesting thread with a new 5-minute video from Ben Davidson of Suspicious 0bservers, posted by meat suit a few hours ago.

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    Default Re: Why the Russians classified a rotating weightless wingnut: they thought the Earth might flip (the Dzhanibekov effect)

    I wonder what would happen if you tried the hammer/tennis racket flip during an eclipse. Does the hammer always rotate in one direction?

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    Default Re: Why the Russians classified a rotating weightless wingnut: they thought the Earth might flip (the Dzhanibekov effect)

    Quote Posted by Neptune7 (here)
    I wonder what would happen if you tried the hammer/tennis racket flip during an eclipse. Does the hammer always rotate in one direction?
    I don't think so... I believe it depends on which way it's spun when it's released. (But it may be quite easy to test that!)

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    Default Re: Why the Russians classified a rotating weightless wingnut: they thought the Earth might flip (the Dzhanibekov effect)

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Bumping this VERY interesting thread with a new 5-minute video from Ben Davidson of Suspicious 0bservers, posted by meat suit a few hours ago.
    Here is the link to the report mentioned in the video.
    https://theethicalskeptic.com/2024/0...n-ecdo-theory/
    I think this is really important. Maybe a Mod could please embed this here or at least the animations.
    I am just reading this for the 3rd time, its blowing my mind.. and it has just occurred to me that maybe the whole solar system could perfom the flip as all the bodies within are gravitationally tied together. There would be no way of knowing if this has happened in the past... Actually I remember some thunderbolts project videos that propose completly different arrangemets of planets. If I get time to find these again I will add them here later.

    Edit to add: surely our earths moon will have a significant effect one or the other way, most likely a stabilizing effect..

    Edit to add a thunderbolts project video about a sky with a totally different plantary arrangement.
    Could this be due to the whole system flipping over?
    There is a whole playlist on the channel.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=svfWvS...ndex=3&pp=iAQB
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    Default Re: Why the Russians classified a rotating weightless wingnut: they thought the Earth might flip (the Dzhanibekov effect)

    Here is some modelling on the earth and also on the moon, and it seem both are really stable.
    However the modelling assumes that the inside of the earth is static.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=

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    Default Re: Why the Russians classified a rotating weightless wingnut: they thought the Earth might flip (the Dzhanibekov effect)

    I was going to reference the asymmetrical qualities of the Earth's deep structures, it is not that concentric layer cake they always use in science programs! We wobble, and if that zone where the crust meets the mantle disengages, whoa...but of course Ben and the Suspicious Observers has explained this way better. One more source of anxiety for us all hey? My poor nerves.

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    Default Re: Why the Russians classified a rotating weightless wingnut: they thought the Earth might flip (the Dzhanibekov effect)

    Quote Posted by meat suit (here)
    https://theethicalskeptic.com/2024/0...n-ecdo-theory/
    I think this is really important. Maybe a Mod could please embed this here or at least the animations.
    I am just reading this for the 3rd time, it's blowing my mind.. and it has just occurred to me that maybe the whole solar system could perform the flip as all the bodies within are gravitationally tied together. There would be no way of knowing if this has happened in the past...
    It's nearly impossible to embed the entire article (which I agree is important and highly recommended)... it's way too long and intricate.

    But below I'll embed just a few of the images (some of which are animated GIFs, so they can be embedded like any other image). This may whet readers' appetites to take a look at the entire long article, which explains the entire thesis in detail.

    The now-famous wingnut video — the easiest concept to understand! — is the third image below.

    (My own comment about the whole solar system tipping over (like a giant wingnut!) is that I so profoundly doubt this could ever happen, as it's not a connected solid object like a tennis racket, or a planet. )

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    Exhibit A – Heat contribution from the core feeds into the series of red-hued Large Low-Velocity-Shear Provinces under the south African continent (SAC-LLVP) and Pacific ocean. These become even less dense as compared to the surrounding mantle.



    Exhibit B – Conceptual Dzhanibekov Rotation based upon the ECDO Theory and established LLVP lower density axes within the Earth’s mantle.



    Exhibit C – Pure Dzhanibekov Effect on a symmetrical object rotating in space. Rotation around its intermediate axis forces a flip in the axial dynamics.


    Exhibit D – South Africa Cusp – Large Low-Velocity-Shear Province (SAC-LLVP) tomography structures (red) and centroid (yellow) at the southern tip of the African continent. The lighter axial centroid of the SAC-LLVP aligns precisely with the 31st East Meridian, which also passes through the Giza Plateau—positioned 104 degrees offset from the current North Pole.


    Exhibit E – LLVP Formation Less-Dense Axial Centroids – align at 31° East Longitude and 104 degrees offset from the current North Pole, inside the south tip of the African continent. Chart is from the referenced Mcnamara, et al. study, however the yellow and text annotations are ours.


    Exhibit FMoment Map of Earth’s Hidden Gyroscope – Three perspectives of the LLVP structures under Africa and the Pacific, along with a conceptual depiction of the axis of gyroscopic moment (thick yellow line) based upon the South Africa Cusp centroid of the African LLVP.


    Exhibit G – South Africa Cusp Radial Center of Mass – 2021 tomography indicating the geographic position of the South Africa Cusp – Large Low-Velocity-Shear Province (SAC-LLVP). Please note that the red lines and annotations ‘Radial Centroid’ and ‘Meridian’ are our added highlights.


    Exhibit H – Dzhanibekov SAC-LLVP longitudinal (meridional) center of cusp (less dense mass) in relation to the Giza Plateau meridian and North Pole. 104 total degrees, bisected with a mid-point in central Turkey – which just happens to also be the Geographic Center of the World. This is no accident. This serves as the basis of an authentication, which will be examined in Exhibit L below.


    Exhibit I – Gyroscopically Mediated Dzhanibekov Rotation – not a retrograde rotation. What we postulate is a modified pure Dzhanibekov Effect rotation (Exhibit C), which does not complete fully – being mediated by the gyroscopic effect of the differential mass planes between the LLVP less dense axis versus the more dense surrounding mantle. This more dense body serves as a form of gyroscopic wheel, forcing the Earths rotation to conserve momentum by taking on a gyroscopic stability priority, and neither a core-mantle coupled nor pure Dzhanibekov rotation. Note that the first two rotation concepts adhere to the ‘right hand rule’ of ‘Arctic’ polar definition. The latter two indicate the ‘former Arctic’ in each scenario.


    Exhibit J – The Solution – Internal schema of core, mantle, SAC-LLVP, and PAC-LLVP in relation to the Gyroscopically Mediated Dzhanibekov Rotation – which we contend results in the 104-degree angles documented regarding the shafts running out of both Khufu Pyramid main chambers.


    Exhibit J2 – The repeating cycle of core exothermic sloughing followed by subsequent endothermic accretion creates a repeating oscillation based on the variable strength of the geomagnetic moment of the Earth’s core (green annotation in Exhibit J2). This process operates through the Dzhanibekov effect and the Earth’s mantle’s gyroscopic angular momentum. We speculate that the process of moving from State 2, Gyroscopic Priority, back to State 1, Geomagnetic Priority, may involve a plastic-mantle tectonic height readjustment and gradual return process, however involving a relatively sudden cooling event as the core resumes its HCP-Fe lattice integrity.

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    Default Re: Why the Russians classified a rotating weightless wingnut: they thought the Earth might flip (the Dzhanibekov effect)

    Thank you Bill 😁

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