What do you think of Deagel.com's forecast for the future US population?

[pyrangello]

50% of the US population lives on the east/west coasts. If your talking a 70% reduction , add in the gulf states and I'm thinking we are there at 70%. So is it the water? The US navy updates its future map from time to time.

I believe Edgar Casey said that Oklahoma would end up being the biggest seaport in the US eventually.

Then there's the time travel aspect or remote viewing, Many retired navy are moving to Arkansas , climate, ect ect. And then there's the earthquake drill taking place every year by the new Madrid. That one physic said it would be a man made disaster, fracking, emptying out the old deep water reservoir's and not replacing it with anything, all we need is some big jolts and there are hollow cavities all over underground.

I believe we all chose to be here during this time, those on avalon and those who visit as well. There are many groups of people that chose to be here that will assist in whatever happens down the road. Being part of avalon removes much if not all fear, as we continue to educate and expand each others minds by our imput.

[onawah]

It seems clear the Covid shots are going to take an increasingly big toll on the population.
Apparently the NWO wasn't willing to wait for earth changes to make that happen.
It would be interesting to see where their underground bunkers are in relation to the predicted future maps.

A New Agey couple often comment on their youtube channel about earth changes.
They live in a motor home and are travelling the US looking for the place they think will be best for them to settle down.
They are less scientific in their approach than intuitive, but they are in touch with a lot of people and getting feedback from many sources, and their broadcasts are interesting sometimes, but also just "entertainment" at other times.

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[Paul D.]

CIA, DoD & Rockefeller Foundation confirmed as architects of Deagel .com 2025 Depopulation Forecast & current Mortality Rates imply Covid Vaccination has made it a target that could be hit

Introduction

In a world where reality often seems stranger than fiction, the machinations behind global events can be an enigma wrapped in mystery.

One such intrigue revolves around Deagel.com, an obscure online entity known for its exhaustive data on military capabilities and eyebrow-raising depopulation forecasts for 2025.

We can reveal that recent findings appear to link Deagel directly to significant players on the world stage: The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD), and The Rockefeller Foundation.

And current real-world data on excess deaths in the West strongly suggest Deagel’s depopulation forecast is not just an estimation but in fact, a target that is on track to be hit thanks to the deadly effects of Covid-19 vaccination.

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[RMF808]

Can anyone explain this to me?

https://nobulart.com/wordpress/wp-co...by-Country.pdf

[norman]

Posted by RMF808 (here)
Can anyone explain this to me?

https://nobulart.com/wordpress/wp-co...by-Country.pdf

It was created before they knew for sure how effective the killoff part of the injections rollout would be.

There were many different varieties of the injections. Probably the real reason for the race in recent pre covid years to digitise national health records into single databases and fed back to the pharma corp block to be integrated into their r&d and planning. They know, right down to the individual, exactly what result a certain formula of injectable is having, in live time. When you have an ailment bad enough to see a doctor who puts it in the record, they know about it.

[Chuck]

Can't add much, other than to point you here:
https://metallicman.com/the-shocking...ng-the-future/

Here is an excerpt:

The Shocking 2025 ‘Deagel’ Forecast and Remote Viewing the future

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How’s that for a “mouth full” headline. Nah. Not the kind of stuff that you were expecting from ol’ MM was it. But (I am so sorry) I am being “pestered” to draft this up. And it truly is “pestering”, and I don’t like it ok? And don’t bother asking why I am publishing this article now, of all times. I haven’t a clue.

And that’s the way it works, don’t you know. So just enjoy the read, and if this article resonates with you, then great for you! Otherwise, just get some wine, a fine companion, and eat some delicious tasty food… stuff that you can savor and smell.

Oh, and one more thing.

In this analysis we are going to entertain a professional Remote Viewer for his comments on the Deagel Forecast. And given that I am being so insanely driven to push this article out (for God know what reason), I am including the entire conversation with him.

And it goes everywhere.

So buckle up. Some of it might be important to some people, and some of it might not be to others. So just relax and take from this article what is important to you, and ignore the rest.

OK?

Introduction

The Deagel corporation is a minor branch of US military intelligence, one of the many secretive organizations which collects data for high-level decision-making purposes and prepares confidential briefing documents for agencies like the National Security Agency, the United Nations, and the World Bank.

It’s a work of “love” from some retired intelligence assets, and like most of us ex-spooks, it’s hosted outside of the United States. Just like MM here. We have VERY good reasons to do so. Reasons that are far too complex to get involved in right this moment. But we DO KNOW what we are doing. Never doubt that.

Deagel is known, for example, to have contributed to a Stratfor report on North Korea. With this kind of pedigree, Deagel should be seen as a legitimate player in the intelligence community and not merely a disinformation asset.

If so, then it must be assumed that its population predictions for 2025, as well as its industrial output predictions on a nation-by-nation basis, are based on strategic assumptions which are shared and well understood by other players in the intelligence community.


Deagel predictions.
Until the start of the Covid ‘pandemic’ many commentators were perplexed by the Deagel spreadsheets.

Perhaps they were part of a psychological operation?

However, in light of recent events, we are obliged to consider a possible connection between the projected massive reduction in the population of certain countries, forecast by Deagel, and other trends going on right now.

Trends?

What trends?

Devaluation of the Dollar with an out of control American Congress.
Strange insistence in using a mRNA vaccine instead of a traditional “dead host” vaccine.
A global pandemic that America is just ****ing up royally.
Desire for a war with China.
Desire for a war with Russia.
Desire for a war with Iran.
China, Russia and Iran forming a unified Asian block.
Race war in the United States.
Progressive onslaught and control of all electronic media.
Looming bubbles in just about every facet of American life.
And so on and so forth…

[Sue (Ayt)]

There is a thread about it that was started in 2015 Here.

From Bill:
Yes, now merged. There's a bunch of interesting information (and discussion) all in one thread now.

[Brigantia]

I can't find any source for these projections; might be guesswork. I had a look at the blog that leans toward a worst case scenario for the years ahead, which may or may not happen - I've been hearing about an 'imminent' collapse worldwide several times since 2000.

With Britain's illegal immigration numbers it seems unlikely, unless a lot of them are deported. Does the creator of these stats know something that we don't? It would be interesting to have some background on how they have been reached.

[Bill Ryan]

An interesting piece on the whole Deagel intrigue, published on Infowars a couple of days ago.

• https://infowars.com/posts/rockefell...ation-forecast

Rockefeller CIA Connections to Deagel Depopulation Forecast

Deagel.com was officially operated by Dr. Edwin A. Deagle Junior. In 2014, Deagel.com published predictions of massive population declines happening abruptly before the year 2025, mostly in Western countries.

For over five years the mysterious depopulation predictions on Deagel.com were regularly updated. But after the 2020 lockdowns, this page was removed from the website, but can still be found archived on the Wayback Machine.

https://banned.video/watch?id=66a3fb74eb3b4d64ea6463ba

Deagel.com has always been a very stark website. With all the appearances of being an intelligence agency website. It claimed to be the personal website of Dr. Edwin A. Deagle Jr., who recently passed away in February of 2021.

In their recent article, “Uncovering the CIA & Rockefeller Foundation’s Role in the Depopulation Forecast released by Deagel,” the Exposé connects the dots that many of us have assumed existed.

Declassified FOIA documents from the nineteen-seventies reveal Deagle’s direct communication with Stansfield Turner, the director of the CIA at the time.

In 1976, Dr. Edwin Deagle moved to New York to become deputy director of the international relations program at the Rockefeller Foundation.

The Rockefeller Foundation was created on May 14th 1913, just a few months after the Rockefeller family helped setup the Federal Reserve Banking system, which gave them unlimited funds while enslaving future generations with debt.

The Rockefeller Foundation funded eugenics programs that decided who should live and who should die. They outlawed natural medicine and fuel, including one of America’s number one cash crops, Hemp, and replaced it all with chemical compounds derived from their oil company’s toxic waste. The Rockefeller Foundation created the United Nations and have their tentacles in NGOs throughout the Western world. In 2019, they funded ‘Event 201,’ the blueprint for the COVID lock-downs that were executed weeks later.

Officially we are told that Dr. Edwin A. Deagle Jr., a deputy director of the Rockefeller Foundation and an associate of the CIA, retired in 2005. The depopulation forecast was published in 2014.

The Deagel.com forecast predicted that by the year 2025, the UK would see its population decline by 77%, Ireland would see its decline by 72%, the United States by 68%, and Germany by 65%, while other countries like Russia are predicted to experience practically zero decline. And official data is now showing that the extreme Deagel.com predictions may be accurate.

Official figures, which we can assume are rather conservative, are showing that government shutdowns and mandated deadly shots have caused staggering levels of excess death. According to official UK Government data, the Covid-19 vaccines were the main cause of excess death. And the more shots you got, the more likely you were to die. Many are saying that over twenty million have died as a result of the Covid lockdowns and experimental shots. And while that number is historically epic in size, it still does not amount to what Deagel predicted by 2025. But we still have time.

A 2014 letter that was published along with the depopulation forecast stated that they predict this decline because “the collapse of the Western financial system will wipe out the standard of living of its population.” And that “the population will be hit so badly… that the migration engine will start to work in reverse… leading to the demise of the (United) States.”

They wrote that “historically a change in the economic paradigm has resulted in a death toll that is rarely highlighted by mainstream historians.”

With the end of the Petro-Dollar, and with the rise of resource backed BRICS, the Federal Reserve’s USD Ponzi scheme is likely at its end. And without factoring in a smart recovery plan, this would make Deagel’s predictions a reality.

[Bruce G Charlton]

Massive third-world (and other) immigration into Western nations, combined with suppression of information and debate - have concealed that this is an era of the most colossal demographic changes of human history. And demographic change is natural selection in action - because there are very significant and heritable national/ racial differences.

There are age changes - median age in some nations is late teens, in others late forties - nothing like these extremes have been seen in history.

All the developed world nations (but especially native populations) are extremely subfertile with much less than two children per woman on average (sometimes about 1 child per woman; among the most educated/ intelligent/ wealthy women only about 1/2 child per woman - less than quarter minimum replacement).

Iin other words these populations are going extinct, by choice - and in periods of unprecedented prosperity and security.

On top of this, there is almost certain to be a problem of which few people are aware - which is the accumulation, generation upon generation, of harmful genetic mutations - mainly due to massively reduced child mortality rates. Through most of human history, most children (i.e. more than 50%) died before reaching reproductive age - now the child mortality rate is about 1% in developed nations and even in impoverished groups still just a few percent.

Of course, children not dying who would have died is a great civilizational achievement - but it Must have significant genetic consequences. Harmful genetic mutations that would have been eliminated, instead accumulate - more with every generation.

I have explored the topic in this short piece, based on re-interpretation of a famous Mouse Utopia experiment.

The reason it came to mind was that I suggest that if the native population of the UK (ie not recent immigrants) was considered; and if the population was statistically adjusted to take account of the fact that the life expectancy has massively increased while the proportion of children has declined

(BTW this information on age-corrected population size was Not available when I spoke to several eminent demographers - which I found remarkable. It would not be at all difficult, the work of mere hours, if one had access to the raw data. And it is obviously necessary to understand long term trends.)

...Then I think the population of the UK has probably already been declining for about forty or more years.

[Tintin]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I've just noticed that the page https://www.deagel.com/forecast has been removed. But it can be found here on archive.org. This (1 April 2021) is one of the last times it was archived, but there may be a few captures that are slightly more recent.

• https://web.archive.org/web/20210401...l.com/forecast

There was a page published on beforeitsnews.com on 12 March 2021:

• https://beforeitsnews.com/alternativ...w-3744798.html

...stating that Dr Edwin Deagle (sic) himself died on 16 Feb 2021, and had worked for the Rockefeller Foundation, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the US Department of Defense.



They cited his formal obituary here:

• https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/ny...&pid=197797247

... which again, spells his name 'Deagle'. (That's evidently correct.) And there's quite a lot there about his most recent forecast, which predicts some dramatic falls in population in many countries by 2025.

And here's a good article with a lot more information:

• https://greatgameindia.com/deagel-in...ligence_Agency

And here are two YouTube videos, one short and one long, all about the forecasts (and in the second one, also the man).

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qMIYHgiC5Ls

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=KEzGKHyt2g8

Extracted from an earlier post of mine on the 'Predictions for 2025' thread:

This site has saved the information: https://nobulart.com/deagel-2025-forecast/. I'll move some more to the existing Deagel portal in the library. Note that clicking on the links via the Nobulart site will immediately download those files.

Edit to add: the Expose article mentioned is here: https://expose-news.com/2024/07/24/c...tion-forecast/

Uncovering the CIA & Rockefeller Foundation’s Role in the Depopulation Forecast released by Deagel

Published: July 24th, 2024

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LETTER TO STANSFIELD TURNER FROM EDWIN A. DEAGLE, JR - August 1977




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[happyuk]

I've long puzzled over Deagel's notorious 2025 (we's halfway through!) "forecast" which showed shows staggering declines e.g. the U.S. population dropping ~70% by 2025.
What was never explained in any detail was the methodology and verified sources, with Deagel himself admitting, "the forecast is nothing more than a model, whether it is wrong or correct"

Summarizing Deagel’s own words

The collapse of the Western financial system will wipe out the standard of living of its population while ending ponzi schemes such as the stock exchange and the pension funds. The population will be hit so badly by a full array of bubbles and ponzi schemes

Yes, the capitalist system has flaws—like financial bubbles, inequality, mismanagement, job losses and cronyism - and criticising these aspects is totally fair.

But calling markets or pensions "Ponzi schemes" is intellectually dishonest and factually incorrect. They are not perfect, but they are not frauds. A Ponzi scheme is an illegal investment scam where returns to earlier investors are paid with money from newer investors—not from actual profit. The stock market and pension funds do not operate this way.

Saying "collapse will wipe out everything" is apocalyptic and ignores centuries of reform, adaptation and unleashing human innovation.

[Isserley]

Posted by happyuk (here)
But calling markets or pensions "Ponzi schemes" is intellectually dishonest and factually incorrect. They are not perfect, but they are not frauds. A Ponzi scheme is an illegal investment scam where returns to earlier investors are paid with money from newer investors—not from actual profit.

The state pension - in its current incarnation - relies upon current taxpayers to pay for the pensions of the elderly. In practice, this is a transfer system moving money from young taxpayers to the retired elderly. How is it not a ponzi scheme?
Retired people are making up an ever increasing proportion of the population with less children born in western countries.
The problem is that there will not be enough people working and paying taxes in the future to fund these pensions. The dependency ratio – the number of people working compared to the number retired – is increasing significantly. Indeed, it is forecast to rise from 3:1 today to 1:1 by 2050. This would make the current system totally unsustainable.

[happyuk]

Posted by Isserley (here)

Posted by happyuk (here)
But calling markets or pensions "Ponzi schemes" is intellectually dishonest and factually incorrect. They are not perfect, but they are not frauds. A Ponzi scheme is an illegal investment scam where returns to earlier investors are paid with money from newer investors—not from actual profit.

The state pension - in its current incarnation - relies upon current taxpayers to pay for the pensions of the elderly. In practice, this is a transfer system moving money from young taxpayers to the retired elderly. How is it not a ponzi scheme?
Retired people are making up an ever increasing proportion of the population with less children born in western countries.
The problem is that there will not be enough people working and paying taxes in the future to fund these pensions. The dependency ratio – the number of people working compared to the number retired – is increasing significantly. Indeed, it is forecast to rise from 3:1 today to 1:1 by 2050. This would make the current system totally unsustainable.

That's a fair point about state pensions very much resembling Ponzi schemes because they rely on newer crops of the younger generation to fund retirees.
And yes, I see the similarities that kind of dependency shares with a Ponzi: ongoing payments depending on continued new influx or workers.

However state pensions are legal and government-administered social contracts, Ponzi schemes are just outright frauds which inevitably collapse.
The main actual concern with the state pension is more to do with demographics than fraud: declining birth rates and aging populations, with fewer workers supporting more retirees.

[Merkaba360]

Oh I was hoping it was Bill Deagle. lol What ever happened to that guy and need to check if his info has aged well. Definitely many things havent come to pass yet

I believe there was a book written by a Nobel Laureate Economist and a Missouri Professor about how the whole world economic system is some kind ponzi/pyramid scheme. Dont know the name of the book and never read it, but if an nobel laureate dont know what he is talking about.....suppose we cant trust anyone unless its properly and clearly explained.

Its definitely designed to guaranteee debtors on the bottom and make sucking money up to the top of the pyramid easy. Maybe i should ask AI if it knows the book and give me the run down on it.

[Mike]

Posted by Merkaba360 (here)
Oh I was hoping it was Bill Deagle. lol What ever happened to that guy and need to check if his info has aged well. Definitely many things havent come to pass yet

I believe there was a book written by a Nobel Laureate Economist and a Missouri Professor about how the whole world economic system is some kind ponzi/pyramid scheme. Dont know the name of the book and never read it, but if an nobel laureate dont know what he is talking about.....suppose we cant trust anyone unless its properly and clearly explained.

Its definitely designed to guaranteee debtors on the bottom and make sucking money up to the top of the pyramid easy. Maybe i should ask AI if it knows the book and give me the run down on it.

It looks like Dr Bill Deagle passed away in 2023 after a yearlong battle with double pneumonia. Rest in peace Dr. Bill.
https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obit...le-md-11297464

I listened to his Grenada lecture way back when, all 4 million hours of it. That was a good long time ago, and I recall being very impressed with Bill Deagle but also a little apprehensive. He had something of a messiah complex. You've got me curious now about whether his info aged well or not. I'll have to revisit.