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    I may have been imagining it, but while I was watching the Bono interview i got the distinct impression that he was sent there with the sole purpose of getting Rogan to change his mind on Trump and Elon (or at least plant a seed).

    His statements like "I wanna know what you think about all this" and "tell me your take on all this" felt like manipulative statements to me. It was oily and insincere. That's what people do when they know direct challenges on someone else's beliefs will likely be rebuffed. He fed Joe a bunch of bullsh!t information and then invited him to comment as a sneaky way of legitimizing it all. To his credit, Joe didn't fall into that trap.

    I've always loved U2 music, and I'd love to believe Bono is sincere, but he's spent way too much time with the Clinton's and Bill Gates to get the benefit of the doubt from me. Still, I cant help wondering sometimes if he's just naive and/or too ego invested in his personal connections to really see the truth. And at this point he's so invested in it all that to admit he's been wrong all along would destroy his credibility. He almost has to see this thru to the end now. He's in love with this image of himself as humanitarian artist, and I don't think his ego will ever allow him to surrender it.
    Bono has chosen his path, and it is with the dark side of the Globalists and Elite Brotherhood.

    I couldn't even watch much of that Rogan interview just due to the fact of who this rat really is. Bono is a Bot of the Mind Virus.
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    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    What are peoples thoughts about Big Beautiful Bill ?
    I just first time heard about it and started to look into it and it does not seem good... Looks like big leaps toward NWO rather than going against it .
    5D Chess from Trump against swamp or is he part of the swamp ?

    https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...orts-elon-musk

    Ok, so Grok doesnt have access to what the bill would change the tax brackets to. Has anyone found what it actually proposes in the bill ?


    And when asking about the chart in the above post showing the lowest income brackets losing income.
    I highly doubt that they would increase the taxes for the bottom 2 tax brackets. So if they remained the same, here is Grok's explanation as to why those earners could lose money.

    "Bottom Earners Losing Income: The 1st quintile (lowest earners, $0–$17,000) faces a 13.6% drop (-$940), and the 2nd quintile (up to $51,000) sees a 1.3% drop (-$580). This suggests a significant hit to the poorest households, likely due to reduced government transfers (e.g., cuts to welfare or credits) or changes in tax policy affecting low-income tax credits (e.g., Earned Income Tax Credit adjustments). On X, this could spark outrage as it appears to disproportionately burden the most vulnerable."


    I just read through this thread quick now, so i dont know too much. But seems like they are not explaining that this is about the cuts to welfare. Who knows how much of that is cleaning out fraud or collateral damages to citizens due to clamping down on illegals gaming the system and getting cut off. Not sure if they are even fudging data by counting illegals benefit cuts toward citizens earnings. hmm.

    I hope they are trying to clean out the welfare fraud and then will make new offers to help honest low income citizens. Like giving incentives to work low end jobs, since many could become available due to the deportations.
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    Here’s Why Elon QUIT DOGE & Left Washington D.C.
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    (These guys aren't even trying to be funny (even though they are on the Jimmy Dore Show) though there's a lot of sarcasm expressed, and they certainly aren't pulling any punches...)

    "Billionaire Tesla CEO Elon Musk is leaving the Trump administration after leading a tumultuous efficiency drive, during which he upended several federal agencies but ultimately failed to deliver the generational savings he had sought.

    During a press conference with President Trump Friday, Musk pledged that despite his departure the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) would continue its work toward cutting a trillion dollars out of the federal budget

    Guest host Keaton Weiss and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss how DOGE never came close to cutting the promised level of government funding, mainly because Musk and his acolytes refused to follow through on his promise to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse at the Pentagon.

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Here’s Why Elon QUIT DOGE & Left Washington D.C.
    The Jimmy Dore Show
    1.54M subscribers
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    May 31, 2025

    (These guys aren't even trying to be funny (even though they are on the Jimmy Dore Show) though there's a lot of sarcasm expressed, and they certainly aren't pulling any punches...)

    "Billionaire Tesla CEO Elon Musk is leaving the Trump administration after leading a tumultuous efficiency drive, during which he upended several federal agencies but ultimately failed to deliver the generational savings he had sought.

    During a press conference with President Trump Friday, Musk pledged that despite his departure the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) would continue its work toward cutting a trillion dollars out of the federal budget

    Guest host Keaton Weiss and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss how DOGE never came close to cutting the promised level of government funding, mainly because Musk and his acolytes refused to follow through on his promise to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse at the Pentagon.

    Follow Keaton Weiss on Twitter: / thatkeaton
    Due Dissidence on Substack: https://substack.com/@duedissidence

    Kurt Metzger on Twitter: / kurtmetzger
    Kurt’s website: http://www.KurtMetzgerComedy.com "

    ~~~

    I believe (as best I know) that this is very inaccurate. My words and my analogy here, but Musk realized that he was using a teaspoon to drain a bath that still had the taps full on. And he saw that the whole DC government apparatus would NOT turn off the taps. (The Pentagon budget this year was upped to a whole trillion dollars. To Musk, that was like a slap the face for his efforts.)

    He could devote his whole life to this, but it would make no difference.

    He very likely also had the door slammed in his face when he stated he wanted to audit the Pentagon (where up 20 trillion dollars or more have gone missing over the years), and also Fort Knox.

    Neither will ever happen
    , but that was not because of any decision of Musk. He had few on his side, maybe (partially) not even Trump, who, backed into a corner, had to do deals with the Deep State.

    The final straw was what Musk saw in the 'Big Beautiful' Bill'. That alone placed a fire hose into the bath that Musk and his team was trying to drain.

    He's given up. That's why he's moving to Mars.

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    Your assessment doesn't sound that different from what was said in the video.
    Musk is clearly disillusioned and fed up with D.C. but I expect moving to Mars is going to be even more disllusioning because according to Ben Davidson (who knows his stuff), the 12,000 year solar cycle is going to have even more of an impact on Mars than on Earth.
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    Here’s Why Elon QUIT DOGE & Left Washington D.C.
    The Jimmy Dore Show
    1.54M subscribers
    42,455 views
    May 31, 2025

    (These guys aren't even trying to be funny (even though they are on the Jimmy Dore Show) though there's a lot of sarcasm expressed, and they certainly aren't pulling any punches...)

    "Billionaire Tesla CEO Elon Musk is leaving the Trump administration after leading a tumultuous efficiency drive, during which he upended several federal agencies but ultimately failed to deliver the generational savings he had sought.

    During a press conference with President Trump Friday, Musk pledged that despite his departure the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) would continue its work toward cutting a trillion dollars out of the federal budget

    Guest host Keaton Weiss and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss how DOGE never came close to cutting the promised level of government funding, mainly because Musk and his acolytes refused to follow through on his promise to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse at the Pentagon.

    Follow Keaton Weiss on Twitter: / thatkeaton
    Due Dissidence on Substack: https://substack.com/@duedissidence

    Kurt Metzger on Twitter: / kurtmetzger
    Kurt’s website: http://www.KurtMetzgerComedy.com "

    ~~~

    I believe (as best I know) that this is very inaccurate. My words and my analogy here, but Musk realized that he was using a teaspoon to drain a bath that still had the taps full on. And he saw that the whole DC government apparatus would NOT turn off the taps. (The Pentagon budget this year was upped to a whole trillion dollars. To Musk, that was like a slap the face for his efforts.)

    He could devote his whole life to this, but it would make no difference.

    He very likely also had the door slammed in his face when he stated he wanted to audit the Pentagon (where up 20 trillion dollars or more have gone missing over the years), and also Fort Knox.

    Neither will ever happen
    , but that was not because of any decision of Musk. He had few on his side, maybe (partially) not even Trump, who, backed into a corner, had to do deals with the Deep State.

    The final straw was what Musk saw in the 'Big Beautiful' Bill'. That alone placed a fire hose into the bath that Musk and his team was trying to drain.

    He's given up. That's why he's moving to Mars.
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    Trump Pulls Musk Ally From Top NASA Job Nomination
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    Trump Pulls Musk Ally From Top NASA Job Nomination
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    "President Donald Trump has pulled his nomination of Jared Isaacman as the next head of NASA, saying on social media he will announce a new nominee who will be “mission aligned.” Meanwhile, overseas, the Trump administration formally provided Iran with a proposal on a potential nuclear agreement. NBC’s Vaughn Hillyard reports for Sunday TODAY."



    Elon Musk on DOGE and his work in and out of government
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    "Since joining the Trump administration with a mandate to shrink government, Elon Musk – the world's richest man, and a key funder of Donald Trump's run for office – led his team at the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) to fire workers, close offices, and cut off funding for innumerable programs. He also saw his own fortunes decline, as his work became the target of lawsuits – and his Tesla brand suffered a huge backlash. Sitting down with "Sunday Morning" correspondent David Pogue, Musk discussed his efforts behind DOGE and the firestorm surrounding it; and his opinion of Trump's controversial budget bill, now before Congress."

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    This is why Elon Musk has quit. (What he says about the bill is correct.)

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1929955052527202503

    The text:
    I’m sorry, but I just can’t stand it anymore.

    This massive, outrageous, pork-filled Congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination.

    Shame on those who voted for it: you know you did wrong. You know it.

    It will massively increase the already gigantic budget deficit to $2.5 trillion (!!!) and burden America citizens with crushingly unsustainable debt.

    Kim Iversen today:

    Elon Musk SLAMS Trump: "You Did Wrong! You Know It!"


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    Sounds like Musk isn't in the loop.

    The government is split down the middle and Musk is probably too embedded with the wrong guys to have the full trust of the 'right guys'.

    Who set him up with the satellite contract and others ? he's a DARPA creation after all. His childhood background was right in the heart of the satanic brotherhood. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as time goes on but I don't suppose the really smart and well informed good guys are so trusting. He needs to take many more big strides in the right direction to be convincingly clear of the evil empire traps and tricks.

    He helped to get Trump elected, that's good, he can be seen to be trying to save something about America but in what way and for what end is a wide open question. An American SnapChat doesn't prove much about what's really going on inside Musk's head and heart.

    From what I've seen of people who have left the satanic brotherhood scene, or tried to, it's not just a question of whether they are deliberately deceiving us outsiders, there's a huge issue with 'baggage' that sticks to them even when they want to leave it behind. A lifetime of cognitive conditioning is hard to shed and replace with new godly conditioning. In a way, it's easier and more comfortable for them to keep on being an evil genius than an infant child of god, no matter how much they wish they were free of it.
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    Trump Just Signed Off On The Deep State Spying On You
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    Other than Fox I don't think this story was picked (at least not much) by the mainstream media

    Four plead guilty in massive bribery scheme at agency Democrats fought to protect from DOGE

    The United States Agency for International Development (USAID), an agency essentially dismantled by DOGE amid complaints from Democrats that cutting waste would harm impoverished countries, is at the center of a massive bribery scandal.

    A federal contracting officer and three businessmen have pleaded guilty in a scheme involving bribes like cash, NBA tickets, and a country club wedding in a scandal the Department of Justice (DOJ) said was part of a $550 million scam, Fox News Chief Washington Correspondent Mike Emanuel reported Friday.

    Roderick Watson, 57, worked as a USAID contracting officer, according to a DOJ press release, and pleaded guilty to "bribery of a public official."

    According to the DOJ, Watson sold his influence starting in 2013, with contractors Walter Barnes, owner of Vistant, and Darryl Britt, owner of Apprio, funneling payoffs through subcontractor Paul Young to hide their tracks.


    Demonstrators and lawmakers rally against President Donald Trump and his ally Elon Musk as they disrupt the federal government, including dismantling the U.S. Agency for International Development, in Washington on Feb. 5, 2025. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

    "During the scheme, Britt and Barnes paid bribes to Watson that were often concealed by passing them through Young, who was the president of another subcontractor to Apprio and Vistant," the press release explained.

    "Britt and Barnes also regularly funneled bribes to Watson, including cash, laptops, thousands of dollars in tickets to a suite at an NBA game, a country club wedding, downpayments on two residential mortgages, cellular phones, and jobs for relatives. The bribes were also often concealed through electronic bank transfers falsely listing Watson on payroll, incorporated shell companies, and false invoices. Watson is alleged to have received bribes valued at more than approximately $1 million as part of the scheme."

    Source & full story: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fou...tect-from-doge

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