Learning the reality of a thing can be unsettling...

[Patient]

I have found a few times in my life that gaining knowledge on strange events, paranormal events, ET and UAPs can be life altering. So I understand that quickly pushing disclosure could be a bad thing for the general public.

A person can believe in a thing, such as ghosts and other paranormal things but when you actually experience them beyond a doubt in your mind there is a new level of "believing" that occurs in a person.

The same can be said for UFOs, or UAPs - once you have a few strong and clear sightings it brings the belief in UFOs to a higher level that shakes your mind.

Going through this many years ago, I recall about 2 weeks where I could not concentrate on/at work or think about anything else really.

I now find myself with anther mind shaking scenario. I have recently learned through ET research that it is said that ETs use dopamine in our bodies to make us calm, relax and basically control us and our reactions to them. I have heard of this before, but recently it has been spoken about by a few researchers.

I had an experience that I wrote about on this website somewhere. A short version; I found myself waking up while laid on a table in a strange room under a sheet. I recall the air was strong with what felt like oxygen when you breathe it through a tube and I was cold similar to the temp of oxygen when you have the tubes in your nose. I was very unsettled - maybe scared - but after a number of seconds I turned my head to look around and an ET quickly came to me. I immediately felt a rush of feeling like I was loved like a baby is by it's mother and I passed out. The same description of dopamine being used by ETs to control humans.

I never new for sure if what I experienced was a real event, although I felt strongly that it was. Now hearing about how they control humans and finding that that is how I was quickly controlled is more proof to me that what I experienced was likely real.

I had to at least write it out to help myself deal with this new level of belief that is currently overtaking my thoughts. It is not as life shaking as what I experienced years ago, but close enough.

[RatRodRob...RRR]

I remember the first time my world was rocked.
I was about 9 or 10, possibly younger when i saw my mum with a book, (chariots of the Gods, COTGs) the book had a weird picture on the cover and it looked so strange that i had to ask my mum what was the book about, she said the book was about "aliens", ......aliens, what on earth are aliens...? , My mum said to me that "Aliens" are people that live on a different planet....
WOW
I knew what stars and planets are and i loved looking at the night sky even as alittle kid, but i had Never entertained the idea that there could be people living on other planets, this Blew my mind and this book was responsible for changing me forever, right upto now.

From that time on i read every book i could find on Aliens and UFOs, this was so exciting that i got into alot of other things aswell, mainly the Paranormal and the unexplained, i even got into the Guinness book of records, there was some weird stuff in there, but there were other things that blew me away too, like Crop Circles, Spontaneous Human Combustion, Cryptids, Things falling from the sky like fish and even coins, the pyramids, the Foo Fighters, levitation, doppelgangers, big cats in Australia, ghosts, Cattle mutilation, Etc Etc.

Since i first saw that book it (COTGs) changed me forever and i will go to my grave wondering and exploring the "Unexplained".

RRR

[Heart to heart]

It is a wonderful thing when belief becomes KNOWING after experiencing the paranormal in life. It alters your perception forever and can lead to an understanding and knowledge beyond the controlled education we are fed from birth on this planet.
For me it has brought great joy and continuous curiosity, but above all how important it is to live in a state of LOVE, as best one can, and be the best possible version of oneself.

I am so grateful for the teachings received through the words of the three oracles I have been blessed to know, namely Margo Williams, Robin Wells and Mary Maddison, and recently a fourth remarkable lady has entered my orbit adding further words of wisdom.

Having shared my mystical life on this forum you may already know the extent of my experiences with Earthbound Spirits, Crop Circles, Extraterrestrials, the Elemental Kingdom, the Angelic Realm, Christ Consciousness, Reincarnation, and VERY recently communication from, but not yet shared, my personal hero KING ARTHUR, the once and future king of Britain.

As we were once told INFORMATION IS THE CRAFT!

It may be unsettling at first BUT How can one not be changed once your eyes have been opened to the true reality of life?

[Russian Bear]

The spiritual world is real, there are demons and there are angels, when you understand the truth that UFOs are fallen angels of satan and it is very dangerous to have any contact with them. They feed on your strength and your life energy and can also harm or destroy a person's soul. When you see an alien, just start praying to God and reading psalms from the Bible, you will see how demons become unbearably and excruciatingly painful from this. Because of UFOs there are many disasters in the world and people die.

[Patient]

Posted by Russian Bear (here)
The spiritual world is real, there are demons and there are angels, when you understand the truth that UFOs are fallen angels of satan and it is very dangerous to have any contact with them. They feed on your strength and your life energy and can also harm or destroy a person's soul. When you see an alien, just start praying to God and reading psalms from the Bible, you will see how demons become unbearably and excruciatingly painful from this. Because of UFOs there are many disasters in the world and people die.

I would suggest to keep an open mind, although I can understand how you could have come to some of these opinions.

I lived in a house that was haunted and experienced all kinds of paranormal things/events and also UFO activity. When putting this altogether it is difficult to say what caused what and why? Using religion did not work to protect myself and my family, nor did it seem to have an effect on the paranormal - at least as far as I could tell.

My guess is that it comes down to the individual and how they react and interact. Giving into fear would not have done any good at all.

Stay strong!

[Patient]

Posted by RatRodRob...RRR (here)
I remember the first time my world was rocked.
I was about 9 or 10, possibly younger when i saw my mum with a book, (chariots of the Gods, COTGs) the book had a weird picture on the cover and it looked so strange that i had to ask my mum what was the book about, she said the book was about "aliens", ......aliens, what on earth are aliens...? , My mum said to me that "Aliens" are people that live on a different planet....
WOW
I knew what stars and planets are and i loved looking at the night sky even as alittle kid, but i had Never entertained the idea that there could be people living on other planets, this Blew my mind and this book was responsible for changing me forever, right upto now.

From that time on i read every book i could find on Aliens and UFOs, this was so exciting that i got into alot of other things aswell, mainly the Paranormal and the unexplained, i even got into the Guinness book of records, there was some weird stuff in there, but there were other things that blew me away too, like Crop Circles, Spontaneous Human Combustion, Cryptids, Things falling from the sky like fish and even coins, the pyramids, the Foo Fighters, levitation, doppelgangers, big cats in Australia, ghosts, Cattle mutilation, Etc Etc.

Since i first saw that book it (COTGs) changed me forever and i will go to my grave wondering and exploring the "Unexplained".

RRR

Yes!

Another thing - once that I have discovered that something is real that many other people have never experienced, I am not so quick to dismiss another person's account of something they have seen or experienced.

[RatRodRob...RRR]

Posted by Patient (here)

Posted by RatRodRob...RRR (here)
I remember the first time my world was rocked.
I was about 9 or 10, possibly younger when i saw my mum with a book, (chariots of the Gods, COTGs) the book had a weird picture on the cover and it looked so strange that i had to ask my mum what was the book about, she said the book was about "aliens", ......aliens, what on earth are aliens...? , My mum said to me that "Aliens" are people that live on a different planet....
WOW
I knew what stars and planets are and i loved looking at the night sky even as alittle kid, but i had Never entertained the idea that there could be people living on other planets, this Blew my mind and this book was responsible for changing me forever, right upto now.

From that time on i read every book i could find on Aliens and UFOs, this was so exciting that i got into alot of other things aswell, mainly the Paranormal and the unexplained, i even got into the Guinness book of records, there was some weird stuff in there, but there were other things that blew me away too, like Crop Circles, Spontaneous Human Combustion, Cryptids, Things falling from the sky like fish and even coins, the pyramids, the Foo Fighters, levitation, doppelgangers, big cats in Australia, ghosts, Cattle mutilation, Etc Etc.

Since i first saw that book it (COTGs) changed me forever and i will go to my grave wondering and exploring the "Unexplained".

RRR

Yes!

Another thing - once that I have discovered that something is real that many other people have never experienced, I am not so quick to dismiss another person's account of something they have seen or experienced.

Absolutely Patient, i was wrong in dismissing peoples accounts of Big Cat sightings, i thought they simply mistook a large feral cat, until i had my own sighting with my lil sister, ill never forget that sighting and i learnt to take others claims of experiencing something truly odd with respect...........RRR

[rgray222]

Posted by Patient (here)
I have found a few times in my life that gaining knowledge on strange events, paranormal events, ET and UAPs can be life altering. So I understand that quickly pushing disclosure could be a bad thing for the general public.

A person can believe in a thing, such as ghosts and other paranormal things but when you actually experience them beyond a doubt in your mind there is a new level of "believing" that occurs in a person.

The same can be said for UFOs, or UAPs - once you have a few strong and clear sightings it brings the belief in UFOs to a higher level that shakes your mind.

I understand exactly what you mean. I had an up close and personal encounter with a UFO that profoundly changed my life. For nearly a year, I found myself preoccupied with the experience, though it did not entirely dominate my thoughts, it did steal a great deal of my mental focus outside of work. This experience helped me distinguish between those who genuinely believe and those who simply wish to believe. For example, while many people acknowledge the existence of UFOs, only a few 'truly' believe; the rest simply want to believe. Over time, I have become fairly adept at distinguishing the difference (in people) between genuine belief and the desire to believe, particularly in contexts such as politics and various aspects of life.

[Russian Bear]

You say that religion did not help you to protect yourself. The fact is that there is only one path to salvation among many paths. You obviously did something wrong. If poltergeists live in the house, you need to read prayers. Sprinkle holy water on anomalous places, burn incense. All this will restrain and torment the ghost, urging it to leave the house. Ultimately, they invite a priest, where he performs a holy act to cast out evil spirits. If after this nothing has changed, then the problem is in the person himself, the demon has become attached to the person himself and torments him. This means that if a person moves to another house, all these paranormal phenomena will haunt him. In this case, this person has sinned in his life, which opened the door for demons to torment this person and ruin his life. Confession of sins and communion of a person drives the demon out of the soul of a person. The Orthodox Church is a hospital for the soul of a person. Medicine heals the physical shell, the church the spiritual, and whoever is not lazy to go to church, fasts and prays, is saved. The truth is only in Orthodoxy. If you study the history of the church, you will be convinced of this. https://orthochristian.com/7174.html

35) (Orthodoxy) Salvation of the soul. The meaning of life.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1664881




UFOs usually appear to people who do not have protection from God and who do not pray to the Lord Jesus Christ. Aliens (demons) even steal people and take them to their spacecraft. It is easier for aliens to steal a person who is engaged in black magic and witchcraft, since such people serve the underworld directly, these are their people, so to speak. A person can deprive himself of God's protection very easily, simply by living in sin. Therefore, such people can not only be stolen, but also jinxed and harmed in any way on a spiritual level, even send damage through witchcraft. I wrote an article about how Soviet scientists determined that UFOs have negative functions, and the Orthodox Church positive ones. Read Soviet scientists have proven the existence of spirits and the afterlife: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1663458 Do not try to find contact with a negative UFO phenomenon that will harm you.

Why do UFOs steal people onto a ship?

Aliens take a piece of skin from a person and then grow this skin in their laboratories and cover it with this skin to be like people - these are called reptilians.

And many other experiments, I said only an example

Also, UFOs entered into an agreement with the Masonic government of the USA to receive diamonds from people, diamonds are the fuel on which their ships operate.

Washington Carousel (UFO) The true nature of UFOs!: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1663552

17) (Orthodoxy, Prophecies, Apocalypse) Part 1 RUSSIAN ANGEL youth Vyacheslav. Prophecies. ATTENTION VERY IMPORTANT

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1663846

Part 2, Russian angel. UFOs are demons (fallen angels). And now in detail about this.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1663986


Orthodox prophet Otkrov Vyacheslav, unofficially canonized in the Orthodox Church.
They become saints regardless of canonization. Holiness is not determined by canonization. In theology, these are well-known facts.

Everything a person needs to know about UFOs so as not to be tempted and not to pay with their eternal soul. Read more in the book "Sent by God", section "They are preparing for war with God", page 277.

"A Christian soul will never and under no circumstances be given to the devil, Christians are too heavy for "aliens", they mainly drag people who do not think about anything and for whom no one prays." - Holy youth Vyacheslav

"Slava said that "UFOs are semi-material objects built by demons to fight God and to zombify people." The fuel for these UFOs are diamonds, which are supplied to them by dedicated people from the world government. Slava said that "Masons, dedicated people from the world government, are in contact with demons and supply them with diamonds for UFOs." Slavochka said that these UFOs have a device that looks like a big button. If you remove this button, there is a hole under it, where they insert a diamond for the UFO to work. Slavochka said that the structure of a diamond is such that, in principle, it is fuel. And the larger the diamond, the longer it lasts.

"There will come a time when demons will descend en masse to earth under the guise of "aliens." They will tell people that they are being attacked by “evil cosmic forces,” but in reality they are being driven away by the saint with whom they are fighting – God. Their true appearance will be heavily disguised, and "they" will act in the real world under the guise of real people. In UFOs that have landed all over the earth, demons will invite people supposedly for a "medical examination and treatment." People will go to them en masse for "health," and will come out as healthy zombies. And this will be just one of the ways to fool a person. There will be other methods of zombification, depending on the spiritual state of a person. Even the chosen ones, that is, believers, will be seduced, and therefore it is necessary to pray diligently and be very careful. Slava said that people will be seduced and zombified in every possible way: “Some, he says, will be lured with bread, and others with a red robe” - there will be many types and methods of fooling people, and it is necessary to be extremely careful not to fall into these nets of Satan.

“Slavochka said that in some state of America there are large lands protected by the World Government, and there they have some kind of secret base (he said its name, but I forgot). And on this base a testing ground for the landing of demonic UFOs has been built. And we - according to the boy - also have a huge site somewhere in the Baikonur region, ready to receive these UFOs. Only in America this base is real, and ours is smaller, like a testing ground. That is, according to the boy, it turns out that everything has long been prepared on Earth for the reception and landing of these UFOs, and all this is being done under the leadership of the World Government." "Slavochka told me in detail how people are abducted. I remember when we went mushroom picking, he always asked me: "Mommy, don't go far from me." It would seem that it was the other way around - I should have asked him not to go far from me. And I became interested and asked him: "Slavochka, why can't I go far from you?" And he said: "Mommy, these "aliens" demons have nets and they catch people with these nets and drag them to their experiments. They set them up and hang them up in the forest like hunters, and people get caught in them. They can set up this net in the most unexpected places (not only in remote places, but even on the side of the road). And it happens that a person picks mushrooms on the side of the road and... disappears. They drag people alive with these nets." As far as I understood Slavochka, these nets are not quite ordinary, they are energetic and consist of cells. With great speed, demons throw these nets on a person and drag him into their UFOs. Most often, demons set these nets as traps in deserted places where people walk alone. Slava gave the following example: "Here they put up a net - and they are not around. This net hangs - it is absolutely invisible. And mushroom pickers walk through the forest: one mushroom picker on one side, and another on the other. And one of them goes to where this net is, and ... disappears." Apparently, demons deliberately set up these nets in places where mushrooms grow."

"A man told me an interesting story about someone who was caught in a demonic net, and for the first time in his life he prayed to God - and it broke, and he climbed out of it - but in another city. And it happened in a split second! And Kostya's friend told me a similar story. His name is Ivan - he and my son Kostya were classmates. At that time, Ivan was already studying at the institute in Chelyabinsk, was not baptized and did not think about anything at all. And one day I saw him and said: "Vanya, why are you so carefree? Look," I said, "don't get carried away by what they are talking about on TV now, like "aliens exist and they fly to us in UFOs" and so on. And he said: "What's wrong with that? They talk about it at our institute and even teach it in the psychology department." I said: "Oh, really!? And you believe it?" - "What's wrong with that?" I say: "Vanechka, you are not baptized. I have no time to talk to you and explain to you; what is good and what is bad - you will not understand. But if someone, someday, starts to "drag" you somewhere - you, as best you can, shout: Lord, have mercy! Lord, save me!" And this is what happened next. Some time passed after our conversation, and he meets my son and says: "Your mother saved me." Kostya smiled and asked: "How did she save you?" And then Ivan told what happened to him. One day he came home from the institute with his friend. I don't remember what they were celebrating there, I think it was a birthday. They drank some champagne, and then went to the room to rest and sleep. His friend lay down on one bed and fell asleep, and he lay down on the other bed and clearly saw (it was during the day - right in the apartment) how two beams appeared and began to drag him out of bed! He says: "I just couldn't believe what was happening!" He grabbed the metal bed with both hands in horror (it was an ordinary metal bed with a net - they lived poorly), and they were lifting him and the bed: then lowering, then lifting and lowering... And then there was some kind of buzzing, the rays went away and everything stopped. "I - he says - slid off the bed onto the floor and wanted to crawl out of the room on my knees, and suddenly... these rays appeared again! And I was no longer on the bed, but on the floor - there was nothing to hold on to. And I - he says - then remembered your mother and how I prayed, how I screamed: "Lord, save me!" And these rays - they were gone... and they never appeared again." This is the terrible incident that happened to Ivan. Of course, he was later baptized. And now he works in drug control."

"I remember how one day a woman came to Slavochka. I even remembered her - so tall, thin. She turned to Slavochka and said to him: "Slava, tell me, please, what is happening in my house? Every evening near my TV there appears a ball, like some kind of clot, black-black. And I have, she says, such a feeling from this ball, that it is alive, and that it is looking at me. What is this? I'm scared! "And Slava told her: "Look, be careful. When one black ball flies, you need to cross yourself, pray and you can try to drive it out with holy water. But, when, he says, two or three black balls fly and if they join, then a "hole" will form, and they will drag you into this "hole", and you can disappear right from the apartment into this "hole". " As Slava explained, from the black balls, when they join, a "hole" is formed, into which demons can also drag a person alive and right from the apartment. And the person disappears, some they drag into their UFOs, some they drag underground, where they have to work (like in Atlantis), and some they drag to Tibet for experiments. Slavochka said that "In Tibet there are also a lot of stolen people and some nasty experiments are also conducted on them. According to the boy, "Demons use people as material. They, he says, will try to connect a person with all sorts of nastiness and make something out of a person." I remember asking the boy: "And why do they do this?" And Slavochka said: "In order to annoy God, to hurt Him, because it hurts God to look at this."

"Slavochka said something strange about diamonds, and I've been a little afraid of them ever since. He said that "You can make a diamond out of a person." As I understood Slavochka, demons disguised as aliens are in direct contact with the World Government and with their permission they "drag" ("drag" is his word) living people into their UFOs. Slavochka said that demons drag people there alive, and mostly those who serve them: witches, sorcerers, and so on. And they drag them not to feed and water them - they drag them for their experiments. And the most terrible experiment that demons do with people is an attempt to make fuel out of a living person in order to roll their UFOs across the sky on human souls. Slavochka said that demons in contact with the World Government have been conducting such experiments for a long time. The demons want to compress a living person together with his soul, to make a diamond out of a person, which would be an inexhaustible source of power for their UFOs. And Slavochka also said that the demons are now trying to improve this process, so that they can fly not on diamonds, but on human souls themselves. These are terrible, horrible experiments that the demons, with the permission of the world government, are doing on people - an attempt to learn not on diamonds, but on immortal human souls, to roll across the sky on semi-material UFOs. But ultimately - according to the youth - people from the world government themselves will become afraid of these demons - "aliens". It turns out that the world government is afraid of them, but uses all their technologies."

"Slavochka said that the time will come when planes and helicopters will start to crash very often - until people understand that it is undesirable for them to occupy airspace, since they interfere with UFOs, that is, demons, to carry out their actions in the air. Because they are preparing for a war with God and are fooling people, being in contact with the powerful people of this world. Slavochka said that people will not understand for a very long time - why do planes fall? And only when these UFOs begin to appear right in front of the planes and prevent them from taking off - only then will people understand that it is undesirable for them to occupy airspace. Slavochka said that "The demons are preparing for a war with God and they need airspace for maneuvers, and when they encounter planes on their way - they simply throw them off." But the youth said that "When people suffer greatly from these "aliens" - they will understand that there is God. And then, they will place the Face of our Lord Jesus Christ on all planes and submarines and an unquenchable lamp before Him. Slavochka said that this everlasting lamp with the Face of Jesus Christ would stand in a transparent glass flask, and would be designed in such a way that no matter how the plane rotated, this lamp would not even move, it would quietly stand and burn. This surprised Slavochka so much that he said: "How did they do this? No matter how you rotate the plane, this flask with the lamp would not even move and would burn quietly and calmly!?" Slavochka was very surprised that people would be able to make such an invention. And Slava said that no one would be able to resist such planes and submarines in which such a lamp is installed. Demons would not be able to shoot down such planes and ships, because they are protected by God and an everlasting lamp burns there before His Face. And Slavochka also said that "the Lord will give people in such planes and ships the opportunity to fight these UFOs, because people will understand that these are demons and will begin to resist them. Slava said that “People in these planes and ships with an ever-burning lamp will fight the ‘aliens’ and the Lord will help them.”

[rgray222]

This video of Carl Jung being asked if he believes in God never ceases to amaze and delight me, he truly is one of my heroes. This may sound strange, but this is exactly how I feel about UFOs and God.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mkAKfwn-wAM

[Sue (Ayt)]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
This video of Carl Jung being asked if he believes in God never ceases to amaze and delight me, he truly is one of my heroes. This may sound strange, but this is exactly how I feel about UFOs and God.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mkAKfwn-wAM

Amazing for sure, rgray222. And it led me to click on the follow up which was captivating all the way through.
Thank You

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OTmwf3Jcs34

[Vicus]

I learned to reed very,very early in my childhood...

First unsettling went to horror,it was reading the Old Testament ...an erratic, wrathful God? WTF...

Second learning how women vanity could turn to disaster...Trojan war!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=v2pCwxCX2as

Moral of the story...Paris should have just split the apple into three slices.

[Delight]

I am REAL. You are real. We are not "things" despite our willingness to act like a "thing". IMO all "things" are made up of gradations of physicality. IMO the astral is made up of things. Our ideas and thoughts are "things". What I looked for in the world, I learned about from someone and then agreed to continue "putting that thing THERE".

IMO that we create this world is the only "threat" to the matrix. As people begin to appreciate this as THE ONLY FACT in the world, efforts to confuse us grow in intensity. I have the POV that NHI exist and want us never to use our true creative power and therefore an ability TO SAY NO to what is "here" and change it.

Learning the REALITY is unsettling. Gosh, it SHOULD be unsettling. Even in the tomes of the science world, IF ever a REALITY is discovered, It SHOULD upend the theoretical premises. IMO it is absolutely mentally freeing to see all mental representations as PROVISIONAL.

When you stand apart and just refuse to believe a thought of any kind, you might STOP thinking. Also, there is EXPANDED hinking into a realm of Truth. There is always a higher mind possibility which unfolds an unknown POV.

WE believe that what happened before is happening now and will happen again when we live form the matrix model. The effort is in figuring out all the details. the effort is to use NOW and prepare to FACE a fixed future. IMO what we as "humans" are experiencing is the INVERSION WHERE WE ARE ASKED TO ACCEPT FIXITY. When I think about what is in our face, we are shown a SYSTEM which has fixed the rules and impressed them on our minds SO we get busy creating it for ourselves. This "realm" is about narrative, story and shaping these to create a collective "reality". However, your "all the power" to create this experience is coopted by something malicious. HOWEVER, we cooperate with the "agenda" because we do not know how to flow with an unknown. Therefore, we FIX the narrative and agree to repeat and repeat the "program".

THINK about the very ideas that well up from the higher mind but NO ONE CAN BELIEVE THEM. They contradict the false matrix realm which we BELIEVE IS FIXED as REAL. No wonder people have cognitive dissonance so decide to ignore all new evidence.

I like so much the conceptual of an unfolding knowing which supercedes all evidence. I KNOW that IT IS POSSIBLE to simply know that what is REAL is already IN US and is not ONE "THING" in our experience. I enjoy hearing all of what people claim about their journey to becoming REAL.

[Vicus]