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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    For anyone wanting to (a) catch up with all this, and (b) understand all the historical details (going back to Robert Maxwell's strong ties to Mossad), this is a concise and scathing summary from Kim Iversen published last night US time.

    The claimed FBI conclusions are impossible for an informed, thinking person to believe.

    They Think You’re Stupid: Epstein Case Closed


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    For those interested in how the Q-op was talking about Epstein’s temple years before he was arrested, the Mossad-Maxwell history, etc., I have a current post here
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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    I saw this posted on X, and wasn't sure of the veracity of the bottom image. That bottom image is supposedly from 2019 of Epstein's cell after they dragged his body away. On top, a still from the recent CCTV footage. Clearly not the same cell!

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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    Yes I have read that proposed - that Trump's admin is blackmailing the involved 'deep staters' for some major changes.
    It's quite possible, I don't rule it out, but something's got to give sooner or later. The people, especially Trump's supporters, simply won't stand for this. They may even see it as a betrayal of a promise on which Trump campaigned. Because they appear to have changed direction here - Bondi, Patel, Bongino, too -- since they made their pledge of transparency. Optics-wise, it doesn't good, it looks, for all intents and purposes, like they themselves have been compromised.

    The following is what I believe is the correct take on Epstein files and what they truly contain, and what they mean in the grand scheme:

    2 mins (audio is a little quiet)

    https://x.com/VincentCrypt46/status/1942548030873633222
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    Even Ben Davidson (featured every day on the Geomagnetic Reversals and Ice Ages thread), opens his new video with the declaration:
    I will keep an open mind and I will wait and see if this is part of some bigger plan.
    But if it's not, today's the day I turn on Donald Trump.
    The CEO is always responsible.


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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    Quote something's got to give sooner or later. The people, especially Trump's supporters, simply won't stand for this.
    Here's one article from someone not standing for this (many embedded links at link):


    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...er-truth-about

    12 Key Questions That All Americans Should Ask About The Shameful Attempt To Cover Up The Truth About Jeffrey Epstein

    by Tyler Durden
    Tuesday, Jul 08, 2025 - 10:11 AM
    Authored by Michael Snyder via TheMostImportantNews.com,

    I literally feel sick right now. After waiting for years for the truth about Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking operation to come out, and after months of being promised that stunning new information would be released soon, now we are being told to forget the entire thing. The people that were brought in to run the Justice Department and the FBI were supposed to restore faith in the system, but instead they are destroying it. Nobody that can think rationally is buying the lies that we are being fed.

    Apparently we are supposed to believe that Jeffrey Epstein didn’t have a client list, he never blackmailed anyone, and he was solely responsible for his own death…

    A Justice Department and FBI review of the investigation related to disgraced late financier Jeffrey Epstein found that there was no “client list” or evidence that he blackmailed prominent figures, according to a memo detailing the findings.

    The review also concluded that Epstein died by suicide while in custody at a Manhattan correctional facility in August 2019. Epstein was facing federal sex trafficking charges, and his death was subsequently investigated by the Justice Department’s internal watchdog and the FBI.

    The Justice Department and FBI said in their memo that video footage reviewed by bureau investigators — and made available to the public — confirmed that Epstein was locked in his cell and nobody entered tiers of the unit where he was housed at the time of his death.

    The Justice Department and the FBI are now facing an unprecedented credibility problem, because millions of us simply do not believe them.

    After everything that has happened, the American people deserve some answers. The following are 12 important questions that all Americans should be asking about the shameful attempt to cover up the truth about Jeffrey Epstein.

    #1 Why were Jeffery Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell arrested and charged with operating an enormous sex trafficking ring that supposedly involved thousands of clients if no such clients ever existed? As Robby Starbuck has pointed out, apparently we are supposed to believe that all of the powerful men that visited Epstein’s island were “just there to catch some waves and relax”…

    #2 Why did U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi tell Fox News in February that Epstein’s client list was “sitting on my desk right now to review” if no such client list ever existed?…

    U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi on Friday said the Jeffrey Epstein client list is “sitting on my desk right now” and she is reviewing the JFK and MLK files as well after President Donald Trump’s earlier directives.

    “It’s sitting on my desk right now to review,” Bondi told ‘America Reports’ host John Roberts on Friday. “That’s been a directive by President Trump.”

    #3 What was in the “thousands of documents” related to the Epstein case that were suddenly discovered in February?…

    Attorney General Pam Bondi has been made aware of “thousands of documents” related to the investigation into Jeffrey Epstein that were previously not disclosed to her office, she said in a letter on Thursday.

    #4 When Bondi claimed that the Epstein flight logs would “make you sick” in March, what did she mean by that?…

    Attorney general Pam Bondi released hundreds of pages of information connected to Epstein in March, promising it would disclose “a lot of names” and flight logs that would “make you sick”.

    #5 In May, Bondi confessed that there were “tens of thousands of videos” related to the Epstein investigation. What was in those videos?…

    She said in May that the FBI was reviewing “tens of thousands of videos” of Epstein “with children or child porn.” Bondi’s comments and the delay in releasing the next batch of documents have tapped into suspicions that damaging details about Epstein or other prominent figures remain hidden.

    #6 Other than Jeffery Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, why hasn’t anyone else that was involved in the sex trafficking operation ever been arrested?…

    #7 The memo that was released on Sunday night says that there will be “no further disclosure” in this case. Does this mean that the Trump administration’s search for the truth ends here?…

    In a memo published by Axios Sunday night, the DOJ and FBI jointly stated that the Epstein files did not include a client list, or evidence of additional perpetrators — and that there will be “no further disclosure” of information on the case.

    “This systematic review revealed no incriminating ‘client list,’” The memo said. “There was also no credible evidence found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions. We did not uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties.”

    #8 The memo also states that there is no “evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties”. Does this mean that none of the men that were having sex with underage girls will ever be brought to justice?…

    Investigators found “no incriminating ‘client list’ ” of Epstein’s, “no credible evidence … that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals,” and no “evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties,” the memo adds.

    #9 On the night that Epstein died, why were there so many strange “coincidences”?…

    The jail had been told Epstein should have a cellmate, and that a guard must check on him every 30 minutes.

    But on the night he died, his cellmate was transferred and not replaced and he was not checked on as often as required.

    Two guards fell asleep at their desks – and later falsified their records.

    Meanwhile, two cameras in front of Epstein’s cell malfunctioned that night – while another’s footage was “unusable”.

    #10 Hours of video footage from outside Epstein’s cell on the night that he died has been released. Did they think that we wouldn’t notice that a full minute has been cut out of that video footage?…

    But now we can confirm that an entire minute was cut from the DOJ video that was released last night. Why? What are they hiding?

    If you follow the full video you can see for yourself that the video is cut off at 11:59:00.

    The video feed then restarts exactly at 12:00:00.

    Where is the missing video?

    #11 During the time that Elon Musk had unprecedented access to the government’s computer systems, did he learn some startling truths about the Epstein investigation? If so, will he reveal what he knows now that he has started his own political party?

    #12 Why was this memo about the Epstein case released to the public late on Sunday night on the 4th of July weekend? Were they hoping that it would make as little news as possible?

    I am so upset.

    The victims of Epstein’s sex trafficking operation are never going to get any justice.


    And all of the very sick men that committed unspeakable crimes are never going to be held accountable.

    A line has been crossed that will never be able to be uncrossed.

    How are we supposed to have faith in our federal law enforcement agencies after this?

    They are lying to our faces and they are convinced that they are totally getting away with it.


    There are some moments in history that are so horrifying that they will never be forgotten.

    This is one of those moments.



    ZH comments

    The Epstein affair serves as a striking case study in the nature of power and protection among the global elite. Epstein’s network, which included politicians, royalty, tech moguls, and celebrities, reveals how existential stakes, reputation, careers, and even personal freedom, create overwhelming incentives to suppress, spin, or distract from damaging truths. This phenomenon, often described as “elite immunity,” is less about overt conspiracy and more about the system’s instinctive drive for self-preservation. Institutions, media, and governments, when faced with the threat of scandal at the highest levels, often act reflexively to avoid self-immolation, prioritizing stability over transparency.

    Within this ecosystem, “mutually assured discretion” becomes the unspoken rule. Powerful individuals don’t always need to coordinate; the mere risk of collective exposure encourages silence and ambiguity. As a result, the story is perpetually shrouded in mystery, with the public denied clear answers and left to fill the void with speculation and suspicion. The lack of resolution in the Epstein case is not merely a failure of investigation — it’s a reflection of how entrenched power structures operate, protecting their own through omission and obfuscation. Ultimately, the affair underscores a deeper truth: when the stakes are highest, the system’s first instinct is to shield itself, not to reveal the truth.

    ///

    I would think the majority here voted for Trump...and are a little bit disappointed...to put it mildly.


    later added to the ZH article

    Last edited by mountain_jim; 8th July 2025 at 18:23.
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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    timely

    https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1942569366832161139




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    Why is Pam Bondi’s Justice Department covering up Jeffrey Epstein’s crimes and murder? Saagar Enjeti has a theory.

    (0:00) Apparently Jeffrey Epstein Is Innocent Now?
    (9:20) The Suspicious Life of Robert Maxwell
    (11:00) How the Kennedy Assassination Broke America
    (13:34) The Dark Truth About the Epstein Cover-Up

    (25:18) The Real Reason Pam Bondi Won’t Release the Files
    (33:25) Why Doesn’t American Foreign Policy Reflect American Interests?
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    (56:32) The Moment Saagar Realized How the Corporate Media Machine Truly Works
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    (1:30:27) The Massive Sports Gambling Scam
    (1:38:48) How Politicians and Legislators Use Debt to Exploit Young People and Get Rich
    (1:43:45) The Epstein Cover-Up Is Insulting and Very Dangerous
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    If this was a movie, Dan Bongino would call a press conference this morning. On live TV, he would state that he had been ordered to lie and that he was resigning with immediate effect. But for legal reasons, he regrets he cannot take any questions or say any more at all.

    He'd never have a job in government ever again. But he'd be the citizens' hero, and the whole rotten DC edifice would crumble and fall.

    However, Bongino and his family have probably already been threatened. So he's chosen not to be a martyr about this.

    Ben Davidson's heartfelt plea can be understood: Bring on the solar flare.

    (That will definitely happen, btw. It's all gonna come down. But for that, we'll just have to wait patiently for a few more years. )


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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    Blondi speaks..

    https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1942627928677753287




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    JUST IN: Attorney General @PamBondi explains the infamous “missing minute” on the Jeffrey Epstein prison video


    https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status...34843277517024




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    Sorry to say it - but this is a complete betrayal.

    Are you happy to just let this go?


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    So let me get this this straight:-

    - Epstein committed suicide
    - There was never a ‘Client List’
    - There are NO video tapes
    - Epstein never blackmailed anybody
    - There’s no evidence Epstein was an agent


    Got it.
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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    Dont like this answer!!!

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    What's really telling is that you don't hear any Democrats screaming "cover-up" or bashing Bondi and Patel.
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    Well, now we'll never know. Besides, Musk is on a trash-n-bash campaign, he should really just stay out of politics and move on.
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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    The whole dame thing stinks to high heaven, or maybe the pits of hell. And Trump has the temerity, the impudence, to brazenly declaim, "are people still talking about Epstein?"

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    this whole thing is so ridiculous there has to be a back story - -

    Alex Jones is my Go To Guy for info and analysis - this is what he has to say - he isn't saying he agrees with the political manoeuvres - just that this is what he has worked out regarding the Epstein Files situation - I found it useful -

    I don't have timestamps so will just post it - but do want to add that some behaviours are so evil and truly despicable that they must not and cannot go unpunished...let's put it like this - the scum who have tortured and abused and murdered children might find the 'deal' changes in due course..... ???


    POLITICAL FIRESTORM: Alex Jones Reveals The Secret Of Why The Trump Admin Has Done A Complete 180 On The Jeffrey Epstein Case & Triggered The Scandal Of The Century (1:01:41)



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    https://x.com/GenFlynn/status/1942533757543616569






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    💯 agree!

    If there is “no there there”, then why not tell us what the “there” is?

    If evidence was destroyed by previous regimes, we need to know that too. AND someone must be held accountable for that.

    This “EPSTEIN AFFAIR” is NOT going away anytime soon.

    1,000’s of CHILDREN abused by ??? Someone must pay a price!!!

    If EPSTEIN worked for the Mossad and/or CIA or both, those agencies need a massive clean up. A “honey pot” is one thing to catch most members of Congress, it is entirely another problem when CHILDREN are brutally and mercilessly abused during the process.

    The DOJ and the FBI cannot sink much lower in public trust than this.


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    You were all hired because of your strong talk about transparency and defeating the horrible government corruption. Please find a way to recover what is left of the reputation of our rule of law system.

    The American people are strong and will stand shoulder to shoulder with each of you if you simply tell us the truth.

    ( oh look -It's Bannon)

    JUST IN: Patriot Tom Fitton, who has been fighting DOJ and FBI to release documents for years, has practically thrown in the towel.

    "The justice department and the FBI are irredeemably compromised and corrupted.
    The leadership needs to understand that and act accordingly."
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    A different take on the Bannon- Epstein relationship

    https://x.com/Ultrafrog17/status/1942652387820196079



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    Steve Bannon has 16 hours of interview footage of Jeffrey Epstein in his vault that has yet to be viewed by the public from a documentary he was working on called, "The Monster."

    I think we can all agree that this footage should be released to the public.

    Imagine what kind of nuggets of truth we could glean from this amount of footage.

    This "was part of "a planned 50 hours of open ended no holds barred interviews with Epstein for a 8 to 10 hour expose on his deep relationships with the global elites in finance, science, education, medicine, politics and culture."

    It's time to get all the information was can possibly aquire about Jeffrey Epstein and Steve Bannon has possibly critical video footage that might shed light on his ties to the elite, intelligence, transhumanism, and the occult.

    Please release this documentary!

    We the People deserve to know the truth!

    Source:
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