I like Dumb Questions

[RatRodRob...RRR]

Posted by RunningDeer (here)

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Im altering my post

It is said kids ask dumb questions. But they are usually honest

My dumb question is, Why do we have borders?

Posted by Casey Claar (here)

I am going to take a run at it. ( hold onto your bootstraps )

We have borders because we are experiencing reality (ie: ourselves ) inside out, - we've encapsulated ourselves (the vast consciousness that we are) within an ephemeral, gossamer membrane in order to locate, or position ourselves somewhere in particular. In such an experience ALL reality takes on this same characteristic. It has a skin, an outside edge that delineates it from other particularized, or discrete presences. We've done this in order to go into relationship with discrete life-formations which now visually appear to be exterior to ourselves. All this is 1) necessary, and 2) part-and-parcel of where our life-experience now resides. Necessary because this is where we learn to choose the manner in which we go into relationship, or otherwise bump up against other boundaries. Which are very much necessary to where we currently find ourselves. So .... I would say it is not so much a matter of whether the boundaries, borders, skins, outside edges should or should be, but rather one of choosing how you/me/we are going to approach them. In fear or in love - positively or negatively.

RE: state of mind, reality borders (reposts)

Summer, 1988

I experienced non-physical reality. After we finished our form work, the Tai Chi teacher asked us to move to the stage, which was three steps above the main floor. As I stepped up, I experienced a moment where physical reality was suspended.

When I stepped onto the first stair, my foot sank through it by about three inches, and I tripped. I tried to catch myself with the other foot, but it also sank slightly a couple of inches and I stumbled again. Finally, logic kicked in and I caught myself with my hands.

The whole event happened quickly, but it also felt like it unfolded in slow motion like time had warped around the experience.

Summer, 2004

I occasionally helped my brother build his home. One particular day, we were laying plywood on the roof. It was hot, and he was tired and irritable. To avoid tension, I suggested doing something else. He agreed and asked me to gather the leftover scraps of 2x4s, 2x6s, and plywood scattered around the site.

At the time, I had been practicing moving “out of time”, a state where I could observe the body working in a natural, rhythmic flow. I held a space where there was no emotional attachment to the task or the outcome. I simply let it unfold.

When I returned after finishing, my brother was stunned. He couldn’t believe how much I had accomplished. It was a large pile of wood. Meanwhile, he had only laid down two sheets of plywood. As I write this, I feel tempted to say maybe three, because it seemed impossible for those two timelines to align within a typical 3D reality.

He asked, “How could you have gotten so much done?”

I told him, “I got out of my own way.”

Looking back now, I’d suggest that we were in the same place but living in different worlds of our own making.

"I got out of my own way"................... I love that.

Getting back to borders...in a nut shell.

I traveled to India because i wanted to meet and experience Indians.
I traveled to England because i wanted to meet and experience the English.
I traveled to Spain because i wanted to meet and experience the Spanish.
I traveled to Scotland because i wanted to meet and experience the Scottish.
I traveled to France because i wanted to meet and experience the French (sort of)
I traveled to Italy because i wanted to meet and experience the Italians.

I love and respect Nationalism, Patriotism, loyalty, and ethnicity .............................................. RRR

[Ernie Nemeth]

What makes anyone want to protect their way of life by settling with others of the same ilk? Camaraderie, safety, common ground.

Why are certain races far more successful than others? Religion, ruthlessness, innovation, risk taking, pioneer spirit.


It really seems as though the two factors that require nations and borders is for religion and despotism, both including megalomaniacs, ultra-elites, true-blue bloods, and fanatics of all stripes.
It is the dogma of religion and the allure of despotism that drives nationhood to protect the established pecking order and preserve the myths and legends that secures their dominance.


The borders are changing as the old order fails to preserve the status of its own citizens, denigrating them and up-playing the foreign-born.
Europe is a prime example as those countries attack their own citizens and charge them with hate crimes if they dare to pine for the reasons there is a country at all.


In my opinion, the story of race is ancient and has its origin in the neighbouring star systems. It is a story that has been kept secret. It seems that right now we are being inundated with visitors from planets that oppose the white races. Our numbers are exploding, but not the whites or the blacks, who murder their unborn in the womb (1 in 3 pregnancies are aborted in the western world).

Replacement theory requires a rewrite of history and a rethink of priorities in general, not to mention a softening of border security. The lines are blurring in the west but oddly, not in the east or the middle east, where the opposite is happening. There, borders are strengthening and the unwanted are murdered, sidelined, ridiculed, and tormented until they disappear or flee for their lives.


Borders are important. Without them we must cater to the least common denominator and lend credence to all manner of radical ideologies and group-think that no majority can ever accept.


Remember: The majority is the country.

[Johnnycomelately]

Posted by RatRodRob...RRR (here)

Posted by RunningDeer (here)

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Im altering my post

It is said kids ask dumb questions. But they are usually honest

My dumb question is, Why do we have borders?

Posted by Casey Claar (here)

I am going to take a run at it. ( hold onto your bootstraps )

We have borders because we are experiencing reality (ie: ourselves ) inside out, - we've encapsulated ourselves (the vast consciousness that we are) within an ephemeral, gossamer membrane in order to locate, or position ourselves somewhere in particular. In such an experience ALL reality takes on this same characteristic. It has a skin, an outside edge that delineates it from other particularized, or discrete presences. We've done this in order to go into relationship with discrete life-formations which now visually appear to be exterior to ourselves. All this is 1) necessary, and 2) part-and-parcel of where our life-experience now resides. Necessary because this is where we learn to choose the manner in which we go into relationship, or otherwise bump up against other boundaries. Which are very much necessary to where we currently find ourselves. So .... I would say it is not so much a matter of whether the boundaries, borders, skins, outside edges should or should be, but rather one of choosing how you/me/we are going to approach them. In fear or in love - positively or negatively.

RE: state of mind, reality borders (reposts)

Summer, 1988

I experienced non-physical reality. After we finished our form work, the Tai Chi teacher asked us to move to the stage, which was three steps above the main floor. As I stepped up, I experienced a moment where physical reality was suspended.

When I stepped onto the first stair, my foot sank through it by about three inches, and I tripped. I tried to catch myself with the other foot, but it also sank slightly a couple of inches and I stumbled again. Finally, logic kicked in and I caught myself with my hands.

The whole event happened quickly, but it also felt like it unfolded in slow motion like time had warped around the experience.

Summer, 2004

I occasionally helped my brother build his home. One particular day, we were laying plywood on the roof. It was hot, and he was tired and irritable. To avoid tension, I suggested doing something else. He agreed and asked me to gather the leftover scraps of 2x4s, 2x6s, and plywood scattered around the site.

At the time, I had been practicing moving “out of time”, a state where I could observe the body working in a natural, rhythmic flow. I held a space where there was no emotional attachment to the task or the outcome. I simply let it unfold.

When I returned after finishing, my brother was stunned. He couldn’t believe how much I had accomplished. It was a large pile of wood. Meanwhile, he had only laid down two sheets of plywood. As I write this, I feel tempted to say maybe three, because it seemed impossible for those two timelines to align within a typical 3D reality.

He asked, “How could you have gotten so much done?”

I told him, “I got out of my own way.”

Looking back now, I’d suggest that we were in the same place but living in different worlds of our own making.

"I got out of my own way"................... I love that.

Getting back to borders...in a nut shell.

I traveled to India because i wanted to meet and experience Indians.
I traveled to England because i wanted to meet and experience the English.
I traveled to Spain because i wanted to meet and experience the Spanish.
I traveled to Scotland because i wanted to meet and experience the Scottish.
I traveled to France because i wanted to meet and experience the French (sort of).
I traveled to Italy because i wanted to meet and experience the Italians.

I love and respect Nationalism, Patriotism, loyalty, and ethnicity .............................................. RRR

En chanté. Haha.

When I backpacked from Europe to and through India, mid 90’s, Aussies were common in the hostels, met many. Some were semi permanent wanderers, working to be able to travel.

[RatRodRob...RRR]

Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)

Posted by RatRodRob...RRR (here)

Posted by RunningDeer (here)

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Im altering my post

It is said kids ask dumb questions. But they are usually honest

My dumb question is, Why do we have borders?

Posted by Casey Claar (here)

I am going to take a run at it. ( hold onto your bootstraps )

We have borders because we are experiencing reality (ie: ourselves ) inside out, - we've encapsulated ourselves (the vast consciousness that we are) within an ephemeral, gossamer membrane in order to locate, or position ourselves somewhere in particular. In such an experience ALL reality takes on this same characteristic. It has a skin, an outside edge that delineates it from other particularized, or discrete presences. We've done this in order to go into relationship with discrete life-formations which now visually appear to be exterior to ourselves. All this is 1) necessary, and 2) part-and-parcel of where our life-experience now resides. Necessary because this is where we learn to choose the manner in which we go into relationship, or otherwise bump up against other boundaries. Which are very much necessary to where we currently find ourselves. So .... I would say it is not so much a matter of whether the boundaries, borders, skins, outside edges should or should be, but rather one of choosing how you/me/we are going to approach them. In fear or in love - positively or negatively.

RE: state of mind, reality borders (reposts)

Summer, 1988

I experienced non-physical reality. After we finished our form work, the Tai Chi teacher asked us to move to the stage, which was three steps above the main floor. As I stepped up, I experienced a moment where physical reality was suspended.

When I stepped onto the first stair, my foot sank through it by about three inches, and I tripped. I tried to catch myself with the other foot, but it also sank slightly a couple of inches and I stumbled again. Finally, logic kicked in and I caught myself with my hands.

The whole event happened quickly, but it also felt like it unfolded in slow motion like time had warped around the experience.

Summer, 2004

I occasionally helped my brother build his home. One particular day, we were laying plywood on the roof. It was hot, and he was tired and irritable. To avoid tension, I suggested doing something else. He agreed and asked me to gather the leftover scraps of 2x4s, 2x6s, and plywood scattered around the site.

At the time, I had been practicing moving “out of time”, a state where I could observe the body working in a natural, rhythmic flow. I held a space where there was no emotional attachment to the task or the outcome. I simply let it unfold.

When I returned after finishing, my brother was stunned. He couldn’t believe how much I had accomplished. It was a large pile of wood. Meanwhile, he had only laid down two sheets of plywood. As I write this, I feel tempted to say maybe three, because it seemed impossible for those two timelines to align within a typical 3D reality.

He asked, “How could you have gotten so much done?”

I told him, “I got out of my own way.”

Looking back now, I’d suggest that we were in the same place but living in different worlds of our own making.

"I got out of my own way"................... I love that.

Getting back to borders...in a nut shell.

I traveled to India because i wanted to meet and experience Indians.
I traveled to England because i wanted to meet and experience the English.
I traveled to Spain because i wanted to meet and experience the Spanish.
I traveled to Scotland because i wanted to meet and experience the Scottish.
I traveled to France because i wanted to meet and experience the French (sort of).
I traveled to Italy because i wanted to meet and experience the Italians.

I love and respect Nationalism, Patriotism, loyalty, and ethnicity .............................................. RRR

En chanté. Haha.

When I backpacked from Europe to and through India, mid 90’s, Aussies were common in the hostels, met many. Some were semi permanent wanderers, working to be able to travel.

I dont wanna get too far off topic , i backpacked in 1984, i was 23 at the time and i freaking loved it.
Main places i went in India were Bombay, Delhi, Jaipur, Agra, Jammu, Srinagar and a 5 day trek of the Himalayas, were you at Nrth India too...?..........RRR

[Edyta Radomska]

When I lived in Poland during the times of the PRL, borders seemed to me to be something bad - an obstacle that cut me off from the world.

Today I live in France, in a rich and safe country... and borders suddenly seem very necessary to me.

As you can see, the point of view depends on the point of sitting.

[Casey Claar]

Posted by Edyta Radomska (here)
When I lived in Poland during the times of the PRL, borders seemed to me to be something bad - an obstacle that cut me off from the world.

Today I live in France, in a rich and safe country... and borders suddenly seem very necessary to me.

As you can see, the point of view depends on the point of sitting.

kerPOWWW

Beautifully said and packs a punch!

[thepainterdoug]

Edyta. thanks . as Casey said, you hit the target. Well I guess everything is dependent on ones position. But in its simplest application, what you bought or own, is yours. your car, your house, your property
The moment you claim something to be yours, you have created a border.

I watch the Dems ranting how they love their country, love their immigrants. What is the word they leave out? ILLEGAL. And they go more crazy over people here illegally and their "rights"than caring about our own war vets. HELLO?

You know, you can do many things in America that break the law. Its easy. I have broken the law many times. I have driven while drinking over the limit. I speed over the limit, and many other minor infractions.
However, if I get cought ? I need to pay the penalty.

If you came here illegally, and got away with it, perhaps for many years, thats fine, and not my issue. However, If you get caught, well then the consequences follow.

I don't dislike anyone, with the possible exception of serial hypocrites.