SAS captured in Libya.

[Operator]

Something is brewing ... no doubt here.

There is almost no mainstream news outside the Netherlands but via dutch MSM we learned last Thursday that 2 male and 1 female navy crew and a Lynx
helicopter were taken hostage while attempting to rescue a dutch citizen from Libya one week ago (Sunday, Feb. 27)
The dutch government does not comment on it at all.

IMHO, this is very fishy ... you don't send just a crew of 3 regular navy personal on a mission inside a country especially without asking permission.
In such cases it would be more likely to send e.g. at least 4 marines with them ... and also later we learned through MSM that the civilian easily could
have left the area with a regular chartered flight from that area. I think they were sacrificed to justify an invasion soon.

Same goes with the captured SAS personal ... I learned over the past years that they were involved in less honorable missions. The reason they show
up dressed in remarkable outfit is because their role seems to be starting the unrest for reasons of interest to the 'west'.

When I checked the reactions to the MSM news articles people were already 'asking' for an invasion and kick some ass ... yeah, right.

All the articles in this newspaper are marked with this vignette:



Just to whip up the cream ... programming, programming programming.

p.s. the vignette says: We support our troops ... 8 days taken hostage

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

Here's an interesting article from the Telegraph a few days ago:



"Libya: Tony Blair agreed to train Gaddafi’s special forces in 'deal in the desert’Tony Blair used his final foreign trip as prime minister to sign a confidential deal with Muammar Gaddafi to train Libyan special forces and supply him with Nato secrets.

A copy of the accord obtained by The Daily Telegraph shows that the two leaders agreed to co-operate on defence matters in a range of areas, including exchanging information about defence structures and technology.
It was signed during the former Labour prime minister’s “Blair-well” tour of Africa in May 2007, in Gaddafi’s tent in the Libyan desert.
Included in the document was an agreement on “co-operation in the training of specialised military units, special forces and border security units”. They also signed up to “exchanges of information on Nato and EU military and civil security organisations”. The document was personally signed by Mr Blair and Gaddafi.
A passing reference to it was contained in a joint communiqué between the
two countries, which was issued at the time and posted on the Foreign Office website before being removed a few weeks ago.

The full version of the accord makes clear the extent to which Mr Blair agreed to co-operate with the Gaddafi regime on defence matters.
Under the terms of the deal, Britain was committed to “exchanges of information and views on defence structures, military and security organisations; exchanges of visits by experts and exchange of printed materials in the field of military education and science; exchanges of information on current and developing military concepts, principles and best practice, and the conduct of joint exercises’’.
The two countries also agreed to co-operate in “training in operational planning processes, staff training, and command and control; training of personnel in peace support operations; training co-operation relating to software, communications security, technology and the function of equipment and systems; exchanges of information and experience in the laws of armed conflict; and the acquisition of equipment and defence systems’’.


So it seems since 2007 Tony Blair the best Prime Minister we've ever had made a deal with Gaddafi to train his special forces amongst other deals. Sorry did I say best, I meant worst.
If there was any training of Gaddafi's special forces the SAS had to have been involved. Once again the troops on the ground have been stabbed in the back by politicians.
What is interesting here is that the US special forces are training the rebels!

Nice one Tony. Sorry whats your job title again?.......... Middle East Peace Envoy?
What a joke.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Whether I agree with it or not, the UK would risk a dozen teams, and more..if necessary,(whatever it takes) in order to gain (to take a chance at gaining) a potential land/sea base/port that could be that deep into the Mediterranean and Mideast/Africa. For them, it is only common sense to try. No matter who -or what- is actually running the UK.

If I was them (Libyan 'rebels') ...I'd expect to find, to 'run into', potentially... someone (or some groups) who claim to represent Russia as well, possibly. Or even China.

China is possible, Russia is unlikely as they don't have the money to project and protect their power.

Posted by Shakespeare's Foot. (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by fopa (here)
Ah that explains it, thanks for the links!

It is not necessarily a contradiction.
Have you ever heard the saying ''Hung by his own petard?''
Or, as you put out, so shall ye reap.
THEY invaded Libya, Libyans didn't go to London and kidnap them.

I understand what happened. But i just don't believe in vengeance or vindictiveness - and that's what we're talking about. I believe that our potential is much more than that. And i know that i have to be that myself before i expect others to be it. It's personal responsibility.

It's not about revenge, it is about protecting your own people from others who would make them slaves.
Lucky for you, there are people like me who would protect you.
Don't take that as an insult as it isn't intended as one.

Posted by Operator (here)
Something is brewing ... no doubt here.

There is almost no mainstream news outside the Netherlands but via dutch MSM we learned last Thursday that 2 male and 1 female navy crew and a Lynx
helicopter were taken hostage while attempting to rescue a dutch citizen from Libya one week ago (Sunday, Feb. 27)
The dutch government does not comment on it at all.

IMHO, this is very fishy ... you don't send just a crew of 3 regular navy personal on a mission inside a country especially without asking permission.
In such cases it would be more likely to send e.g. at least 4 marines with them ... and also later we learned through MSM that the civilian easily could
have left the area with a regular chartered flight from that area. I think they were sacrificed to justify an invasion soon.

Same goes with the captured SAS personal ... I learned over the past years that they were involved in less honorable missions. The reason they show
up dressed in remarkable outfit is because their role seems to be starting the unrest for reasons of interest to the 'west'.

When I checked the reactions to the MSM news articles people were already 'asking' for an invasion and kick some ass ... yeah, right.

All the articles in this newspaper are marked with this vignette:



Just to whip up the cream ... programming, programming programming.

Was the civilian actually a spook?

Let's get something sorted here.
I have known a stack of SASR men in the past and they are nice guys.
But when they are on the job, nothing will stop them from doing what they have to do.
And some of them will do things that you guys would only see in movies.
Like that story from Basra. Why would you need explosives, anti tank weapons and thousands of rounds to ''investigate'' torture in a local jail?

[Shakespeare's Foot.]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

It's not about revenge, it is about protecting your own people from others who would make them slaves.
Lucky for you, there are people like me who would protect you.
Don't take that as an insult as it isn't intended as one.

I count my chickens everyday.

[58andfixed]

Qaddafi Forces Capture 3 Dutch Marines

Jorge Benitez
March 03, 2011



"From Marlise Simmons and Alan Cowell, the New York Times: Libyan authorities loyal to Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi have captured three crew members of a Dutch naval helicopter who were rescuing European citizens, last Sunday, the Dutch Defense Ministry said on Thursday, the first report of foreigners being by held in Libya’s bloody and unfolding uprising."

"Otte Beeksma, a spokesman for the Defense Ministry, said in a telephone interview that the pro-Qaddafi forces also captured two civilians being rescued — one Dutch, the other from an unspecified European country — who had since been released."

"Mr. Beeksma, said the crew of a Lynx helicopter had landed in the coastal city of Sirte — a pro-Qaddafi stronghold — after flying from a navy ship, the HMS Tromp, anchored offshore. The helicopter was “surrounded by armed Libyan forces late on Sunday afternoon. ...”

http://www.acus.org/natosource/qadda...-dutch-marines

These clues should help to discern what is going on in Libya has a different agenda than in other areas of this planet.

- 58

[king anthony]

2005 Basra Incident - Two British SAS Solders killed police; were captured dressed as Iraqi Arabs; the Government attempted to commence with a trial; this failed when SAS took their men by force hours later.

[Operator]

Posted by 58andfixed (here)
Qaddafi Forces Capture 3 Dutch Marines

Ok, so it got some coverage after all ... however if the dutch news is accurate they were no marines ... but regular navy personnel (a female pilot and 2 other male crew members).
What is significant in dutch MSM is the accompanying news that gasoline prices crossed an all time high record and that one should expect even worse due to the risk of the
unstable situation in those oil producing countries .... it's just prepping the masses if you ask me.

Also the situation with the dutch navy personnel is a little bit different ... they were captured by the Khadaffi regime whereas the British SAS troops were captured by the rebels.
The 8 Brits are released in the meantime by the way.

[cayman]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Whether I agree with it or not, the UK would risk a dozen teams, and more..if necessary,(whatever it takes) in order to gain (to take a chance at gaining) a potential land/sea base/port that could be that deep into the Mediterranean and Mideast/Africa. For them, it is only common sense to try. No matter who -or what- is actually running the UK.

If I was them (Libyan 'rebels') ...I'd expect to find, to 'run into', potentially... someone (or some groups) who claim to represent Russia as well, possibly. Or even China.

you got that right

[Muzz]

Reminded me of this grubby little story from 2005...
http://catastrophist.wordpress.com/2...incident-2005/

[fopa]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...s_In_Benghazi_

Link explains content!

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Muzz (here)
Reminded me of this grubby little story from 2005...
http://catastrophist.wordpress.com/2...incident-2005/

That is exactly why I don't trust spooks or spec ops.
Oh and Ruby Ridge.
Oh and Waco and all the others.
They will cut our throats in a second if their commanders tell them we are terrorists.

Posted by fopa (here)
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor...s_In_Benghazi_

Link explains content!

So the media are already helping to spin it?
Not surprised, if they printed the truth, they would get a D Notice real quick.

[Calz]

This says nothing about Dutch marines but update of the story (if true):

Britain scrambles to explain SAS's Libya 'blunder'

The British government was left red-faced Monday after a botched attempt by special forces to make contact with opposition forces in Libya ended in the team being seized by rebels.
The team, reportedly made up of six soldiers from the elite SAS and two diplomats, flew into Libya by helicopter and made their way to the opposition-held city of Benghazi.

But they were rounded up by lightly armed rebels soon after they arrived, reports said.

The diplomats are believed to have been officers from Britain's MI6 foreign intelligence service whose mission was to contact rebel leaders and open the way for a delegation.

But they succeeded only in angering Libyan opposition leaders who denied they had asked for any help and by late Sunday they had been packed off to Malta on a British naval ship.


Full Story:


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

[Lord Sidious]

Ok, so it turns out they are from the SAS VIP protection team, not anything suspicious.
Maybe.