When all is satisfied

[Michi]

Here comes my deep philosophical question that may not be conceivable by man on this low plane:

When all is satisfied - what then?

Man is constantly striving to solve problems, improve things and collect wealth. The environment demand consistent care and attention since things degrade rather fast. It's a constant battle between adversity and yearnings.

No wonder, many seek to build a life where everything is taken care of - or even better - having all their wishes granted.

I m just reading a very interesting UFO encounter story about a far away civilization which supposedly has achieved the perfect world setup and the story is indeed very intruiging.

https://www.galactic-server.net/389/iarga.html

But the question arises - WHAT THEN? Isn't everybody getting utterly bored? Wouln't beings degrade to the extend of being unable to achieve anthing? How about bliss?

A very interesting tidbit I got from ChatGPT on the question: "When all is satisfied, can there be bliss?":

The real key to lasting bliss
Lasting bliss usually involves a cycle:

- Desire → Effort → Fulfillment → Rest → New Desire

If “all is satisfied” forever, you’d have to replace desire-driven joy with something else — like pure mindful presence or creative exploration.

So yes, bliss can exist when all is satisfied — but it might require choosing to stay engaged with life in non-need-driven ways. Without that, it could slowly dissolve into neutrality.

So with this new insight, to live in a non-need-driven way let's imagine a life or state of being where you could achieve everything you envision instantly, build your environment just by picturing it.

Isn't this the way an envolved species would exist on a higher, less dense plane?

Here comes my question to you: How would you fare in this way and what would be your way of living? How would community work and very important: how could you evolve, rise to higher states?

P.S. see also my related earlier thread: Is adversity really necessary?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Michi (here)
A very interesting tidbit I got from ChatGPT on the question: "When all is satisfied, can there be bliss?":

This is a perfect example of the mainstream-human-driven limitations of AI.

AI does now know about, or have any 'personal' awareness of, reincarnation and the far, far bigger picture beyond this one fleeting lifetime.




My strong recommendation to every Avalon member: quit looking to AI for answers to anything at all that has any real significance. Lao-Tse would be rolling in his grave.

[Michi]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Michi (here)
A very interesting tidbit I got from ChatGPT on the question: "When all is satisfied, can there be bliss?":

This is a perfect example of the mainstream-human-driven limitations of AI.

AI does now know about, or have any 'personal' awareness of, reincarnation and the far, far bigger picture beyond this one fleeting lifetime.




My strong recommendation to every Avalon member: quit looking to AI for answers to anything at all that has any real significance. Lao-Tse would be rolling in his grave.

Ok - that backfired. How would you respond to my post without the ChatGPT part?

Like this:
Here comes my deep philosophical question that may not be conceivable by man on this low plane:

When all is satisfied - what then?

Man is constantly striving to solve problems, improve things and collect wealth. The environment demand consistent care and attention since things degrade rather fast. It's a constant battle between adversity and yearnings.

No wonder, many seek to build a life where everything is taken care of - or even better - having all their wishes granted.

I m just reading a very interesting UFO encounter story about a far away civilization which supposedly has achieved the perfect world setup and the story is indeed very intruiging.

https://www.galactic-server.net/389/iarga.html

But the question arises - WHAT THEN? Isn't everybody getting utterly bored? Wouln't beings degrade to the extend of being unable to achieve anthing? How about bliss?

Let's imagine a life or state of being where you could achieve everything you envision instantly, build your environment just by picturing it.


Here comes my question to you: How would you fare in this way and what would be your way of living? How would community work and very important: how could you evolve, rise to higher states?

P.S. see also my related earlier thread: Is adversity really necessary?

[rgray222]

Posted by Michi (here)
Here comes my deep philosophical question that may not be conceivable by man on this low plane:

When all is satisfied - what then?

Man is constantly striving to solve problems, improve things and collect wealth. The environment demand consistent care and attention since things degrade rather fast. It's a constant battle between adversity and yearnings.

No wonder, many seek to build a life where everything is taken care of - or even better - having all their wishes granted.

I m just reading a very interesting UFO encounter story about a far away civilization which supposedly has achieved the perfect world setup and the story is indeed very intruiging.

https://www.galactic-server.net/389/iarga.html

But the question arises - WHAT THEN? Isn't everybody getting utterly bored? Wouln't beings degrade to the extend of being unable to achieve anthing? How about bliss?

A very interesting tidbit I got from ChatGPT on the question: "When all is satisfied, can there be bliss?":

The real key to lasting bliss
Lasting bliss usually involves a cycle:

- Desire → Effort → Fulfillment → Rest → New Desire

If “all is satisfied” forever, you’d have to replace desire-driven joy with something else — like pure mindful presence or creative exploration.

So yes, bliss can exist when all is satisfied — but it might require choosing to stay engaged with life in non-need-driven ways. Without that, it could slowly dissolve into neutrality.

So with this new insight, to live in a non-need-driven way let's imagine a life or state of being where you could achieve everything you envision instantly, build your environment just by picturing it.

Isn't this the way an envolved species would exist on a higher, less dense plane?

Here comes my question to you: How would you fare in this way and what would be your way of living? How would community work and very important: how could you evolve, rise to higher states?

P.S. see also my related earlier thread: Is adversity really necessary?

This video is intended to be humorous, but it also contains a significant amount of truth. Without some adversity, turmoil, disturbance, turbulence (I am not sure what the right word is), life would hardly be worth living. Keep in mind, there is a huge difference between adversity and hate/war. Life is not worth living if you are in a constant state of hate or war.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TpnW0gE6LN0

I certainly could be wrong, but I do not think it is possible to achieve a perfect world setup. That is a world where everyone has all that they need, feels fulfilled and believes their life has meaning and purpose. No conflict, no war, no shortages, no sickness, poverty, greed, corruption, etc. I am not even sure (given how the human mind works) that it would be a satisfying existence.

[thepainterdoug]

The world is not supposed to be perfect, whatever that means? The world is supposed to be as it is. I know thats hard to understand but its true in my opinion.
Get away from A I. Get into NDE,S

[Raskolnikov]

Posted by Michi (here)
Here comes my deep philosophical question that may not be conceivable by man on this low plane:

When all is satisfied - what then?

Man is constantly striving to solve problems, improve things and collect wealth. The environment demand consistent care and attention since things degrade rather fast. It's a constant battle between adversity and yearnings.

No wonder, many seek to build a life where everything is taken care of - or even better - having all their wishes granted.

I m just reading a very interesting UFO encounter story about a far away civilization which supposedly has achieved the perfect world setup and the story is indeed very intruiging.

https://www.galactic-server.net/389/iarga.html

But the question arises - WHAT THEN? Isn't everybody getting utterly bored? Wouln't beings degrade to the extend of being unable to achieve anthing? How about bliss?

A very interesting tidbit I got from ChatGPT on the question: "When all is satisfied, can there be bliss?":

The real key to lasting bliss
Lasting bliss usually involves a cycle:

- Desire → Effort → Fulfillment → Rest → New Desire

If “all is satisfied” forever, you’d have to replace desire-driven joy with something else — like pure mindful presence or creative exploration.

So yes, bliss can exist when all is satisfied — but it might require choosing to stay engaged with life in non-need-driven ways. Without that, it could slowly dissolve into neutrality.

So with this new insight, to live in a non-need-driven way let's imagine a life or state of being where you could achieve everything you envision instantly, build your environment just by picturing it.

Isn't this the way an envolved species would exist on a higher, less dense plane?

Here comes my question to you: How would you fare in this way and what would be your way of living? How would community work and very important: how could you evolve, rise to higher states?

P.S. see also my related earlier thread: Is adversity really necessary?

I'm not going to pretend to have the answer to your thoughtful question Michi, but I think it would just be nice to have the opportunity to find out for ourselves. We all know breakthrough discoveries in the fields of science, medicine, energy, biology, etc. have been kept from us. Poisoned and lied to at every turn. I, for one, think humanity has an unlimited potential. I remember reading Drunvalo's Flower of Life about a child who loved salamanders and grew back his own arm (or foot?) because nobody told him he couldn't. That's the potential and direction humanity could be experiencing and headed if we could just get some truth and stop with all the satanic inversion and destruction.

I've read much of the same material, stories of enlightenment and civilizations within the Earth and throughout the cosmos. Inspiring stuff. True, who knows. I think we're here to create. Adversity's good for growth and can be very rewarding at times, but our understanding, even of the planet we're living upon, flat, globe, something else entirely?, is on par with the miniscule portion of the visible light spectrum we can see with the naked eye.

What was it Dolores Cannon always said, "Earth is the toughest school there is. That's why everyone is here watching. They want to see what you'll do." That's a paraphrase from memory so don't call me out if it's not exact. So I'd love to have the opportunity to find out what I'd do when "all is satisfied." Maybe I'd finally get a good night's rest. But that's not our world at the moment...

[onawah]

Detachment is a very necessary state of mind which needs to be achieved, whereupon questions about "satisfaction" simply become irrelevant.