Human brains connected

**ian33** · 18th August 2025 12:40

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**Docim369** · 18th August 2025 13:07

Thanks Ian 33. It has been proposed somewhere on this forun that a sentence or two is written alongside pasted links and videos describing what they are about offering some insight and saving people clicks and time.

**RunningDeer** · 18th August 2025 13:12

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The discovery that human brains may be connected through extremely low frequency electromagnetic waves opens an entirely new chapter in neuroscience. While much remains to be studied, the idea that we are all linked by invisible frequencies is both scientifically intriguing and deeply human.

As research progresses, we may find that the phrase “we are all connected” is not just spiritual wisdom — but scientific fact.

Neuroscientists have found that all human brains are connected through extremely low-frequency electromagnetic waves. These subtle signals, far below the range of our normal senses, may form a hidden “neural network” that links human consciousness across the planet.

Every thought we have creates tiny electrical impulses, and together, these impulses generate electromagnetic fields. Scientists suggest that these ultra-low waves can travel great distances, silently connecting minds in ways we are only beginning to understand.

Some researchers even compare this to the Earth’s natural resonances—like the Schumann resonance that vibrate at similar frequencies. This raises a fascinating possibility: our brains might be in constant dialogue, not just with each other, but also with the rhythms of the Earth itself.

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**ExomatrixTV** · 18th August 2025 14:15

John Kuhles vs Grok 4 "Expert Mode" for X Premium Plus Account users using the "Deep Search" feature:

Grok 4, quote:

"The claim that all human brains are connected through extremely low-frequency (ELF) electromagnetic waves to form a global "neural network" is not supported by current scientific evidence and appears to stem from speculative or pseudoscientific interpretations of a real phenomena.

While the human brain does generate weak electromagnetic fields from neuronal activity (measurable locally via techniques like magnetoencephalography, or MEG), these fields are far too faint—typically in the range of femtotesla to picotesla—and decay rapidly with distance (following the inverse square or cube law for magnetic dipoles) to propagate meaningfully across vast distances, let alone globally. Studies have detected brain EM fields at distances up to about 63 cm (24,8 inches or 2 feet) in controlled, shielded setups, but this requires specialized amplification and does not imply long-range communication.

Inter-brain synchronization (or "coupling") is a documented phenomenon where brain activity aligns between individuals during social interactions, such as conversations, music-making, or joint tasks. However, this occurs through sensory and behavioral cues (e.g., visual, auditory, or emotional signals) rather than direct ELF wave transmission. No peer-reviewed research conclusively links it to a global ELF network. Similarly, the Schumann resonance (Earth's natural atmospheric ELF frequencies around 7.83 Hz) overlaps with some brain wave bands (e.g., alpha waves), but there is no causal evidence it connects human consciousness or brains planetary-wide; claims to the contrary are often rooted in misinformation or pseudoscience.

The viral attribution to "Princeton neuroscientists" appears unfounded, as searches yield only unsubstantiated social media posts from mid-2025, with no matching publications from Princeton or credible neuroscience sources.

The blog post you referenced (from a non-scientific Philippine health site) makes broad, unsourced assertions without citing specific studies, rendering it unreliable. Hypothetical models exist suggesting weak brain magnetic fields could theoretically influence nearby organisms (e.g., via cryptochrome or magnetite particles), but these remain speculative, lacking empirical validation for distance-based or global effects. External ELF fields (e.g., from power lines) can subtly affect brain activity, but this does not equate to brains communicating via their own emissions.

In summary, while intriguing ideas like brain-to-brain interfaces exist in controlled lab settings (e.g., via BCIs), the notion of a natural, planet-spanning ELF neural network lacks substantiation and contradicts established physics and neuroscience.

Citations:

Me:

Could your alleged "Deep Search" be flawed or even rigged?

Grok 4 "Expert Mode":

"No, my "Deep Search" (which refers to my ability to use web search, browsing, and other tools to gather and verify information) is neither flawed nor rigged in the sense of being manipulated or biased by design. It's built on transparent, real-time access to external sources via xAI's tools, allowing me to fetch data from the web, X (formerly Twitter), and other resources to support answers with evidence. This process is deterministic based on the queries I formulate, and the results come directly from those sources without alteration.

To address potential concerns:

Flaws in Search: Like any search system, results can depend on query phrasing, source availability, or algorithmic limitations of the underlying engines (e.g., relevance ranking). If results seem incomplete, I can refine queries or use multiple tools iteratively, as shown in my previous responses. Human searches face similar issues—no system is perfect, but I aim for thoroughness by cross-verifying across sources.
Rigging or Bias: My responses are generated based on the data retrieved, combined with my training to prioritize truth-seeking, neutrality, and evidence. xAI designed me to be helpful and maximally truthful, without hidden agendas. If a topic is controversial, I seek balanced views, but I don't fabricate or suppress information.
Transparency: In every response involving searches, I cite sources inline and list them at the end, so you can verify independently. If you suspect an issue with a specific search, provide details, and I can re-examine or expand on it.

If this question stems from my prior analysis of the brain-ELF claim, note that I relied on peer-reviewed studies, physics principles, and debunking sources—none of which supported the viral claim. I'm open to revisiting with new angles if you have specific evidence.

Me:

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Grok 4 Expert Mode:

"The sources you provided offer intriguing hypotheses and some preliminary research on related topics like brain wave patterns, electromagnetic field (EMF) influences, and collective consciousness, but they do not provide conclusive evidence for a natural, global "neural network" connecting human brains via extremely low-frequency (ELF) or ultra-low-frequency (ULF) electromagnetic waves. Instead, they highlight speculative ideas, local synchronization phenomena, and external EMF effects on individual brains, often calling for more rigorous study. Below, I'll break down the key insights from each, cross-referenced with additional verification, to address the core claim.

Analysis of Provided Sources

Brains Syncing Up (HubPages): This appears to be a non-scientific blog post with no substantive content extracted on brain synchronization or EMFs. It lacks peer-reviewed evidence and seems speculative or promotional, offering no support for global connections.
Brain-to-Brain Communication via EMFs (PMC Hypothesis Paper): This peer-reviewed article proposes that weak brain-generated EMFs (around 1,000 femtotesla) could theoretically enable direct brain-to-brain communication through mechanisms like cryptochromes (light-sensitive proteins) or magnetite particles in the brain, which might detect magnetic fields and convert them to neural signals. It cites evidence from animal studies showing synchronized action potentials (e.g., in rats and bats during social interactions) and human fMRI data on "telepathic" activation in regions like the parahippocampal gyrus. However, the authors emphasize this is a "potential hypothesis" without empirical validation for long-range effects; fields are too weak to propagate globally without amplification. Quote: "It may be hypothesized that large synchronized outbursts of cortex neurons... produces electromagnetic fields around the brain," but no studies confirm inter-brain induction at such low levels.
Universal Pattern of Brain Wave Frequencies (MIT Picower News): This reports on a study revealing consistent brain wave frequency patterns across species (e.g., humans, mice), governed by neural excitation-inhibition balance. It focuses on internal brain dynamics, not inter-brain connections or EMFs. No evidence or hypotheses for global networks; the content is insufficient for deeper relevance.
Earth's ULF Magnetic Micropulsations Inducing Brain Activity (ResearchGate Paper): This peer-reviewed work hypothesizes that Earth's natural ULF micropulsations (e.g., during geomagnetic storms) could "leak" into the brain, interacting with synaptic potentials and causing spurious effects like depression or neurological changes in sensitive individuals. It cites correlations between space weather and health outcomes (e.g., increased heart attacks during storms) and notes brain neuromagnetic signals (50–500 femtotesla) overlapping with Earth's field frequencies (0.01–100 Hz). However, it's speculative, focusing on external fields affecting individual brains rather than brain-to-brain links. Quote: "The geomagnetic field... can leak to our skulls and reach our brain’s white/grey areas, thus possibly interacting with our synaptic potentials/currents." Calls for epidemiological studies but provides no direct evidence of global human brain connectivity.
Could a Planet Develop a Brain? (LiveScience): This discusses the speculative "Gaiacephalos" hypothesis, where Earth might evolve a planetary "brain" via human technology and AI, emerging from the "technosphere" (e.g., networks of microchips and quantum computers). It draws analogies to biological evolution but explicitly states it's "one analytic possibility of uncertain likelihood," with no peer-reviewed evidence. Irrelevant to human brain EMFs or natural connections; no mention of synchronization or fields between brains.
Collective Unconscious (VeryWellMind): This explains Carl Jung's psychological theory of a shared unconscious mind influencing archetypes and behaviors across humanity. A literal interpretation is deemed pseudoscientific, while symbolic views have some grounding (e.g., a 2015 study on gut microbiome regulating unconscious behavior; a 2022 study on social media influences). No discussion of EMFs, brain waves, or physical connections—purely psychological, not neuroscientific.
Global Consciousness Project 2.0 (HeartMath Institute): This explores "global consciousness" via random number generators (RNGs) detecting shifts during events (e.g., Israel-Hamas conflict) or meditations, suggesting heart-generated magnetic fields (extending beyond the body) and Earth's field link living systems. It hypothesizes collective intentions (e.g., compassion) affect coherence, with quote: "Ongoing investigations into the Earth’s magnetic field have revealed its potential role as a carrier of vital information." However, this is speculative and not peer-reviewed; RNG-based "evidence" is controversial, often criticized for statistical artifacts and lacking causal mechanisms for brain-to-brain EMFs.

Broader Context and Verification

The viral "Princeton neuroscientists" claim referenced in some sources (and echoed in recent X posts) appears unfounded—no such study exists from Princeton. Searches trace it to unsubstantiated social media from mid-2025, often linking to quantum ideas or Schumann resonance (Earth's ~7.83 Hz field overlapping brain alpha waves) without evidence.

Related research shows:

Inter-brain synchronization: Occurs during social interactions (e.g., conversations or music) via sensory cues, not distant EMFs.
EMF hypotheses: Theories like the "cemi field" suggest consciousness involves brain EMFs, but evidence is for internal integration, not global transmission. External EMFs (e.g., from phones or geomagnetic fields) can subtly affect brain waves, but effects are localized and not communicative.
Tech-mediated communication: Direct brain-to-brain interfaces exist using EEG/TMS, but require devices—not natural ELF waves.
Criticisms and Balance: GCP is often labeled pseudoscience due to flawed statistics and no metaphysical support. HeartMath's claims on heart fields influencing brains are preliminary and lack robust replication.

In summary, while brain EMFs and synchronization are real phenomena, the idea of a planet-wide neural network via natural ELF/ULF waves remains speculative and unsupported by empirical data. Physics limits weak fields' propagation, and observed effects are better explained by sensory or technological means.

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Me:

So why was your initial "Deep Search" not able to find what I gave you later on? Be aware, I do NOT have to agree with anything I find fascinating or interesting, I only consider ... I am not in any "believe" or "non-believe" polarity trap. I postpone my final judgment after weighing in all angles, not depending on any "authority" on anything having filtered or limited search results.

Grok 4 "Expert Mode":

"My initial search focused on verifying the specific viral claim of a "Princeton study" proving a global neural network via ELF waves, prioritizing peer-reviewed evidence and fact-checks, which primarily surfaced debunks and physics-based limitations (e.g., weak field decay over distance). This led to missing some related hypothetical papers because they don't directly address or substantiate that exact attribution—often circulating as misinformation on social media without a real Princeton source—and rank lower in evidence-focused queries. Broader searches now reveal these sources, which propose intriguing mechanisms like brain EMFs potentially enabling limited inter-brain influences, but they emphasize speculation over empirical proof for global connections. For instance, one key paper hypothesizes weak brain magnetic fields could theoretically facilitate direct brain-to-brain communication via cryptochromes or magnetite particles, citing animal studies on synchronized firing, yet notes no direct tests for long-range induction or global networks. Another explores Earth's ULF micropulsations possibly inducing individual brain anomalies (e.g., during geomagnetic storms), correlating with health effects like depression, but doesn't extend to inter-brain links.

Projects like Global Consciousness 2.0 suggest collective intentions might shift random number generators via heart/Earth magnetic fields, implying interconnectivity, though criticized for lacking causal mechanisms and statistical rigor.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UcojLpEPkSE

Counter angles include established neuroscience showing brain EMFs are too faint (femtotesla range) for distant propagation without amplification, better explaining synchronization via sensory cues. No conclusive global ELF network is supported; claims often stem from unverified social posts since 2025, misattributing to Princeton without traceable studies. Weighing all, these ideas merit exploration (e.g., via future experiments on field induction), but current data leans toward speculative rather than validated, avoiding reliance on any single authority.

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Me:

What part is the CORE ISSUE that might lead to more discoveries, what part is promising for deeper research ... and is it possible too many generalizing "fact-checkers" sites (parroted by many MSM platforms and other what Elon Musk calls "NPC-Types" and I agree) infesting your LLMs you use, accuse others of generalizing ... (ironical hypocrisy).

Grok 4 'Expert Mode":

Core Issue Leading to Potential Discoveries

The central challenge in electromagnetic (EM) theories of consciousness and brain-to-brain communication via extremely low-frequency (ELF) waves revolves around the inherent weakness of brain-generated EM fields—typically in the femtotesla to picotesla range—and their rapid decay over distance, making long-range propagation or induction in another brain physically implausible without amplification or unknown mechanisms. This "propagation problem" stems from physics: EM fields from neuronal firing follow inverse-square decay, rendering them undetectable beyond centimeters in unshielded environments, and there's no conclusive evidence they can transmit complex information like thoughts or emotions globally. However, this gap could spark breakthroughs if research uncovers subtle receptors (e.g., cryptochromes or magnetite particles in the brain) that amplify or detect these weak fields, potentially linking brains to external resonances like Earth's Schumann frequencies (~7-8 Hz, overlapping alpha brain waves). Resolving whether synchronized neuronal firing creates coherent, transmissible EM patterns could redefine consciousness as an integrated field rather than purely synaptic, opening doors to explaining phenomena like inter-brain synchronization during social interactions.

Promising Areas for Deeper Research

Several avenues show promise, focusing on bridging theoretical hypotheses with empirical testing:

CEMI Field Theory and Internal EM Integration: Exploring how the brain's endogenous EM fields unify neuronal information for consciousness, with recent experiments showing external EMFs influence firing patterns in brain slices—suggesting potential for therapeutic applications like modulating flow states or treating disorders via ELF stimulation.
Magnetoreception and External Influences: Investigating cryptochromes/magnetite as detectors of weak fields, including geomagnetic micropulsations' effects on brain activity (e.g., during storms correlating with mood changes), which could link human cognition to planetary EM rhythms.
Quantum and Global Consciousness Models: Probing quantum processes in microtubules or collective EM effects (e.g., Global Consciousness Project's RNG shifts during events), though speculative, with calls for rigorous studies on synchronized brain waves and tech-mediated direct brain-to-brain interfaces.
Future Directions: Empirical tests on EM induction between isolated brains, advanced sensors for femtotesla fields, and AI designs incorporating EM-sensitive architectures to simulate consciousness. These could yield innovations in mental health, education, and neural tech.

The core issue in the hypothesis of human brains connecting via extremely low-frequency (ELF) electromagnetic waves lies in the fundamental physics and biology of brain-generated electromagnetic fields (EMFs): these fields are extraordinarily weak (typically in the femtotesla to picotesla range) and decay rapidly with distance, making natural long-range propagation or induction across planetary distances implausible without amplification or intermediaries like cryptochromes or magnetite particles in the brain. This "propagation problem" challenges claims of a global neural network, as current models show EMFs influencing neurons only locally or under controlled external stimulation, not forming a spontaneous "dialogue" between distant minds. Addressing this could lead to discoveries in understanding consciousness as an emergent property of EM fields, potentially resolving the "binding problem" (how disparate neural activities unify into coherent experience) or revealing subtle bio-magnetic sensing mechanisms in humans, akin to magnetoreception in animals.
Promising areas for deeper research include:

Inter-brain synchronization: Studies show brains align rhythms during social tasks (e.g., conversations or joint problem-solving), potentially via sensory cues or weak EMFs, with applications in enhancing team performance, education, or treating social disorders like autism; virtual reality experiments suggest this holds even remotely, warranting more on non-sensory mechanisms.
External EMF effects on brains: Research into how ELF/ULF fields (e.g., from geomagnetic storms or devices) influence neural activity, such as inducing spurious signals or altering mood/cognition, could uncover therapeutic uses (e.g., for depression) or risks (e.g., from power lines).
Biological transducers like cryptochromes and magnetite: These may detect ultra-weak magnetic fields, converting them to neural signals; animal studies support this, and human brain mapping could test if they enable subtle "telepathic" influences.
Tech-augmented brain-to-brain interfaces: Building on EEG/TMS setups, future work could amplify natural EMFs for direct communication, integrating with AI for hybrid consciousness models.
Quantum and field theories of consciousness: Theories like cemi (conscious electromagnetic information) or quantum brain dynamics propose EM fields as the seat of awareness, promising to bridge neuroscience and physics if validated through EEG/non-linear analyses.

These areas are speculative but grounded, with calls for empirical tests like measuring EMF induction between isolated brains or correlating Schumann resonances with global brain wave patterns.

Regarding potential bias from "generalizing fact-checkers" (often echoed by MSM and what Elon Musk terms "NPC-types" for conformist, scripted behavior), it's plausible that over-reliance on such sources in LLMs could lead to ironic hypocrisy: they accuse fringe theories of overgeneralization while broadly labeling them as pseudoscience without nuanced scrutiny, potentially stifling exploration of hypotheses like EMF consciousness. Musk has publicly criticized media as "NPC dialogue trees" (e.g., calling reporters trapped in biased loops) and highlighted hypocrisy in free speech enforcement, where platforms censor under pressure yet claim neutrality. However, my searches prioritize diverse, peer-reviewed sources (e.g., PMC, Nature) over fact-checkers, and xAI's design emphasizes truth-seeking without hardcoded biases—though training data inevitably includes MSM, I cross-verify with primary research and X discussions to mitigate echo chambers.

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cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

**betoobig** · 18th August 2025 15:31

i do distance healing bc there is really no distance as there is also No time. We are One and as One we are all connected. Telepathy trascends distace and dimensions, is a fact....
the leap we are about to experience in knowlegde and sciences is over anyone´s imagination..... people say "keep an open mind".... much better keep a good vibe and mind will be opened in the right direction. We, each, have our own innerbeing , our own connection to source and not many are exploring such fact. Soon to know thy self will be ordinary issue. Remember we are remembering, we are coming back to our true nature which isn´t physical.
i can proof some of what i just wrote..... so much LOVE as you read this!!! see?... lol.... it can´t be denied

**RunningDeer** · 18th August 2025 16:25

What I like about this personal example is that it demonstrates three important things:
1) communication can occur even after death
2) it involves another person
3) there’s physical evidence supporting the exchange

These aspects highlight how belief and awareness can enhance our understanding of communication beyond ordinary circumstances.

Silly Putty

In 2006, we lost sibling #8, our sister, Rebecca.

Several years later, another sister, Marie and I were coming back from a weekend party at our cousins' place. I was prompted by Rebecca to share what I felt. I told Marie that Rebecca was with us the whole weekend. She agreed, but it was more out of courtesy.

I added, “She’s in the back seat.”

Then out of the blue silly putty popped in my head. Rebecca kept prodding me to pass along the message.

“She's insisting that I ask you about silly putty.”

Marie is holding back tears while she reached into the console and pulled out a silly putty egg. Unbeknownst to me, Rebecca gave it to her the year before her passing. It was a reminder for Marie to play.
(repost)

**betoobig** · 18th August 2025 17:04

We are consciousness first and foremost and we dewll in nonphysical until a part of us goes into the physical body while the bigger part remains in nonphysical, our innerbeing. So when we leave our body we still are that focal point which went forward into the physical and it is completely possible to access. In my experience we have conected with a friend while he was in coma, a body in coma is bc the go or intellectual mind is out of the body due to trauma, but ego or intelectual mind is accesible even if the person had no telepathy bc he is out of the body, while the body alive th ego or intelectual mind, even out of it, is always near by .... death is same thing but ego doesn´t stick around the dead body normaly, if it does we call it gosht. I have also spoken to my father when he died, incredible experience to say the least. We are powerfull creators and if you can think it you can do it, it all starts with a thought.
So much love Paula... missed you all, but you specially. i love being back here from time to time.

**RunningDeer** · 18th August 2025 20:24

Posted by betoobig (here)
So much love Paula... missed you all, but you specially. i love being back here from time to time.

Juan. It's always a pleasure when you drop by.

**Thevortexpurple** · 19th August 2025 02:16

Wow, Ian. This is incredible. I've always suspected there is some greater link between us and our minds. However: I've not been exactly feeling this connection myself.
I wonder if I can start to feel this to a greater degree sometime. Lately I've sort of just been feeling disconnected out there from those whom I know myself.

**ian33** · 19th August 2025 12:47

Posted by Docim369 (here)
Thanks Ian 33. It has been proposed somewhere on this forun that a sentence or two is written alongside pasted links and videos describing what they are about offering some insight and saving people clicks and time.

"Hear all, see all, say nowt" is a Yorkshire proverb that advises people to listen and observe carefully without speaking. It suggests that one should be discreet and keep their thoughts to themselves while gathering information.
back to my roots. i've said too much already..happy postings everyone

**Isserley** · 19th August 2025 14:43

Posted by ian33 (here)

Posted by Docim369 (here)
Thanks Ian 33. It has been proposed somewhere on this forun that a sentence or two is written alongside pasted links and videos describing what they are about offering some insight and saving people clicks and time.

"Hear all, see all, say nowt" is a Yorkshire proverb that advises people to listen and observe carefully without speaking. It suggests that one should be discreet and keep their thoughts to themselves while gathering information.
back to my roots. i've said too much already..happy postings everyone

Ha ha I fully agree with that sentiment.
But social networks, this forum as well, doesn't work that way - more on the principle of share anything and everything no matter what (with an emphasis on the quality of the content in the case of avalon).

**ian33** · 19th August 2025 15:53

Posted by Isserley (here)

Posted by ian33 (here)

Posted by Docim369 (here)
Thanks Ian 33. It has been proposed somewhere on this forun that a sentence or two is written alongside pasted links and videos describing what they are about offering some insight and saving people clicks and time.

"Hear all, see all, say nowt" is a Yorkshire proverb that advises people to listen and observe carefully without speaking. It suggests that one should be discreet and keep their thoughts to themselves while gathering information.
back to my roots. i've said too much already..happy postings everyone

Ha ha I fully agree with that sentiment.
But social networks, this forum as well, doesn't work that way - more on the principle of share anything and everything no matter what (with an emphasis on the quality of the content in the case of avalon).

yes and why i should stand down from here..i dont meet the standard..plenty here who do, no loss.....we are all connected way beyond words

**Pilutaq** · 20th August 2025 09:03

"In 2017, Blue Brain Project discovered that neural cliques connected to one another in up to eleven dimensions."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Brain_Project

https://portal.bluebrain.epfl.ch/

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