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    Quote and let me add, I am very disturbed by the medical industry. i get doctors are very valuable, but they have become a thing to seriously avoid.

    I have proof its a racket, a money maker, by passing patients around a corrupt system. From the doctor, to the blood lab, back to the doctor. to the doctors referral, to the pharmacist and so on. I found this out first hand.

    this is an awful state as people will die, just to avoid this racket. Im at risk and i refuse to get on that hamster wheel
    Doug,

    You made an edit to add the above after I had already begun to reply.

    Yes, I've worked in the Care Industry the past 30 years, it not a sustainable system, is collapsing, and will be rebuilt into something I trust will be far more beneficial.

    The interim period is never very stable, quite the reverse. It is disquieting, to say the least when a thing is coming down.

    I never entered that system so am less effected, but my heart goes out to everyone who is.
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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    Norman and Casey thanks for your posts. Norman, I agree and its probably something very evident I didn't yet make note of to myself.

    Casey I am always thinking on these things every day. But perhaps a personal musing, more than something we are all being made aware of.

    Im amazed how many books are being written everyday, sometimes multiple books by the same author on the same topic, and yet what is being delivered?

    Reams and reams of info, and I dont feel any less for not knowing about it. tell me what I am missing? Surely all these words must be communicating something of importance.
    The only info that has made a difference for me comes from NDE,s

    and let me add, I am very disturbed by the medical industry. i get doctors are very valuable, but they have become a thing to seriously avoid.

    I have proof its a racket, a money maker, by passing patients around a corrupt system. From the doctor, to the blood lab, back to the doctor. to the doctors referral, to the pharmacist and so on. I found this out first hand.

    this is an awful state as people will die, just to avoid this racket. Im at risk and i refuse to get on that hamster wheel

    Doug, I hear very well what you say about the medical 'industry'. Well done for refusing the hamster wheel Running the gamut of that will sharpen your 'human-ness' and bull**** discernment blade like nothing else! It is an excellent training ground, when the fear and anger have been pushed aside, for discovering the true, spiritual warrior in you. Books and gurus will never do it - they'll whet the appetite, yes, but boots on the ground experience will be the proving point in these situations.
    Oh, but I'm sure you know all this Its just that we do need a battleground (but choose your battles yes?) for honing our skills.

    I too, am running the gamut with big pharma, being that certain age, but I know I'm right when I refuse the meds given out like sweets...but its a scary place to be when you're up against a cartel that profits out of sickness. It felt like a huge black abyss when I let go of the Teat and start thinking for myself. Ten years on from being nagged by 'them' to take certain meds and refusing...and I'm still here, so I'm doing something right!
    When you sharpen that pitchfork you'll find that a freedom kicks in, and a clarity. Other 'stuff' will be let go of, easily once you take that first step.

    Running Deer, spot on with your observation about not being here to 'change' the world, just yourself. I've only recently realised just what that means, after castigating myself for not 'doing enough' for aeons. When you work on yourself, live authentically, you automatically change the world...you dont have to 'do' anything (unless there's a strong calling in you) just live the best life for you...and you, Doug.

    Casey, I agree that the 'system' is coming down...I just wish it were a quicker process - I've been around for too long and seem too many casualties.
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    Casey and friends. I wrote this original post a ways back after doing a deep dive into the NDES They have changed my entire way of perceiving reality. One after another they have confirmed this to me, that this is the dream, or the stage,or the fake thing ,the board game etc , where we act and play out our parts, after coming here by choice to do so. We chose it!

    Sounds crazy hugh? But in deep examination of everything, it is the only thing that makes sense to me.

    So thats why I dont care what Jack Sarfatti, Neil De Grass, Michu and all the rest of these brainiacs say, because its all within this stage we are all acting out on . Its not going to matter.

    We are here to experience. Experience separation, from murderes to the sweetest of angels. We will all go home and be one again. All the world is TRULY, a stage

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    Casey and friends. I wrote this original post a ways back after doing a deep dive into the NDES They have changed my entire way of perceiving reality. One after another they have confirmed this to me, that this is the dream, or the stage,or the fake thing ,the board game etc , where we act and play out our parts, after coming here by choice to do so. We chose it!

    Sounds crazy hugh? But in deep examination of everything, it is the only thing that makes sense to me.

    So thats why I dont care what Jack Sarfatti, Neil De Grass, Michu and all the rest of these brainiacs say, because its all within this stage we are all acting out on . Its not going to matter.

    We are here to experience. Experience separation, from murderes to the sweetest of angels. We will all go home and be one again. All the world is TRULY, a stage
    Being "smart" in all this fakery is, at it's very best, the deepest clownery, and more generally, the sickest and saddest mockery of the soul (or god, if you want to throw that in 'good measure').
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    Quote Casey and friends. I wrote this original post a ways back after doing a deep dive into the NDES They have changed my entire way of perceiving reality. One after another they have confirmed this to me, that this is the dream, or the stage,or the fake thing ,the board game etc , where we act and play out our parts, after coming here by choice to do so. We chose it!

    Sounds crazy hugh? But in deep examination of everything, it is the only thing that makes sense to me
    It doesn't sound crazy AT ALL, Doug.

    Investigating this to the point of fully realizing that what we like to call "reality" is a dream is step 1. - step 2 is the critical bit.

    The question rises with immediacy on the heals of all this, doesn't it? Because if all this (including myself) is a dream, who, then, is the dreamer?

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    Casey i loved your video. Lots to ponder. Recently, and I never used to do this, Im waking, lying in bed for a bit trying to recall where I was, what my dreams were, and then Im sitting on the edge of my bed for a while. I never used to sit on the edge but something is feeling right to just sit there. it sort of a pep talk to myself to , ok get up and get to it.
    But im struggling to recall my dreams, and have not had a lucid dream for some time. very disappointed about that.

    dreming is a great topic. who is the dreamer?? well perhaps the spirit me on the other side that has always been, similar to the story writer of a movie you are cast in playing the part in the movie you are acting in .

    I think the greatest thing we could all get would be a different way to view death. A way of seeing it less tragic, more easy with it, even celebrating it, but our attachments are so very real here. And perhaps the other side, needs it this way
    those who have lost children know this all to well

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    Doug. Someone passed on to me this channelling today in my inbox. It's from an collective calling itself 'Veronica', as channelled by April Crawford, a deep trance medium. Whether or not you resonate with channelling per se, the message is spot on regarding the whole point of being 'here' - in what she calls the 'causal plane'.

    Hopefully, this might clarify things a bit?


    The Whole Point

    "While participating in the reincarnational cycle a soul can experience many roles and dramatics. Whether one has belief in past lives or not they actually do occur for all.

    The whole point is to achieve growth and advancement for the soul. With so many experiences, it's important to remain connected with your authentic frequency in each one.

    Your journey includes many dramas. Each one reshaping your energy as you move throughout the process.

    Perhaps consider remaining solid in your own space. Decide to remain clear and aware of your journey.

    You are a multi-dimensional being. Make the effort to be connected with all your life experiences. Make a practice of sorting through all the dramatics to achieve the desired outcome ..... become your authentic self that has shaped itself throughout all your lives.

    Open your heart and use all of your lives too be your true self. Growth is always the destination. Do not become distracted in drama along the way."

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    Hi Mari/ thanks for sending this and for caring to send it . However, and not to be critical but I will be , it's a bit vague .

    so what is growth? what is your authentic frequency in each one? I dont really understand. can I put it on a meter? measure it?

    my journey has many dramas?. yes, staying solid in my space? does not explain anything to me.

    how does one make an effort to be connected to all ones life experiences?

    open your heart and use all your lives to be your true self?

    for me this is all vague, feel good stuff that actually says alot while saying nothing at all. it answers nothing but can not be argued with

    can you or anyone answer these question directly with factual info?

    sorry but thats how i feel about this.

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    I came to the conclusion that what I choose for my realm is a clean sweep of the astral plane. I define this as a layer in the Matterium where it is "nonphysical" but peopled. I think I am here to build my own mythology. It does involve thinking but is SO MUCH richer than a thinking alone.

    I don't know the history of the present state of my myth but here and now, I think that the astral is a projection of human consciousness BUT the seed of what we have projected was a kind of ancient AI which has us always creating an inhuman experience. Reading about the possibility that we are immortals trapped in a simulation is becoming more "common sense" to me. IF present day we have the rudiments of "games" which simulate experience, I am able to accept that long ago, we started the repeating patterns that play today.

    It has come to my awareness that I am not my thoughts but that thoughts play on my present moment and imagination. I have the opinion that the very very best outcome for my realm is obiteration of that whole astral band width from LOW to HIGH. I consider the Egregore as a way of seeing the antihuman inversion we play out FOR the astral to continue building its simulated life.

    I am not able to know what the ramifications are for the responsibility of cleaning out all astral content... all ideas of all thoughts and all that plays on the mind. However at THIS point, this is the spin I would see play out. I want to know what it will be to be unassailed by ALL THAT ACCUMULATED Thought form while in a body.

    This imagination I have of what it will be is like: a never ending moment where I am knowing without thinking and telepathic and using my body fully.

    It is one of my opinions that the cause of our limited perception is ASTRAL manipulation. It is the filter we learned so well. In a way, I wonder if all variants of NHI are split off from human minds. Over time the programming of our mind to create an AI realm has rolled on and on. I say NO MORE astral is NO MORE mind parasitism.

    I am FEELING connected to God (unknown) and therefore I am not worried about such a drastic move. I really want this experience.

    Oh and it is not alzheimers. In fact, I wonder if perhaps those who cannot stay connected to the body are those who seem demented?
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    Delight. I think I understand some of what you wrote above but then again, not at all sure. Would an analogy be something like cleaning out the cache of your computer?

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    Hi Mari/ thanks for sending this and for caring to send it . However, and not to be critical but I will be , it's a bit vague .

    so what is growth? what is your authentic frequency in each one? I dont really understand. can I put it on a meter? measure it?

    my journey has many dramas?. yes, staying solid in my space? does not explain anything to me.

    how does one make an effort to be connected to all ones life experiences?

    open your heart and use all your lives to be your true self?

    for me this is all vague, feel good stuff that actually says alot while saying nothing at all. it answers nothing but can not be argued with

    can you or anyone answer these question directly with factual info?

    sorry but thats how i feel about this.

    No worries Doug, I'm as confused sometimes as to what its all about.

    Growth - my take on all this is, that its what naturally happens when we go through life experiences - its said we need 'challenges' for soul growth.

    'Authentic Frequency' means being true to my own particular blueprint for this life, in other words, to be myself through everything that happens or is presented to me.

    'Staying 'connected to all life experiences', well for me, that means being aware and learning from them (lessons, yuk) and seeing patterns forming, as they will, especially if I keep on repeating behaviours which are not for my highest good ..pratfalls ensue!

    My 'heart' (so I have been told) needs to open fully before I can experience my 'true self'. A work in progress there! Trust is a massive issue for me this time around

    Yes, I'm as bewildered as you and the rest are - and I'm humble enough to realise and accept that I'm never going to 'get it' while in my current incarnation.
    And mostly, I'm fine with that.

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    Mari/ many thanks I like your advise better than the channelers!!! I really wish we could all talk to each other in a less gobuldiegook way. Lol that may be the first time I ever wrote that word.

    One of the reasons I backed off the UFO topic is all the acronyms, AATPT, AABCD, BBCDB, SKIFFS AND ALL Tiring!, and all being used as some kind of whos in the know? snobby code, etc. Get real people, just explain things as what is real to you. UFO. Unidentified flying Object

    now gobuldiegook ? not sure what that is, but I know when I hear it.

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    Mari/ many thanks I like your advise better than the channelers!!! I really wish we could all talk to each other in a less gobuldiegook way. Lol that may be the first time I ever wrote that word.

    One of the reasons I backed off the UFO topic is all the acronyms, AATPT, AABCD, BBCDB, SKIFFS AND ALL Tiring!, and all being used as some kind of whos in the know? snobby code, etc. Get real people, just explain things as what is real to you. UFO. Unidentified flying Object

    now gobuldiegook ? not sure what that is, but I know when I hear it.
    Not that I'm dissing channellers per se, But I do like Plain Language

    This will be clearer:

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gobbledygook
    Translations
    nonsense; meaningless or encrypted language
    something written or said in an overly complex, incoherent, or incomprehensible manner
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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    Delight. I think I understand some of what you wrote above but then again, not at all sure. Would an analogy be something like cleaning out the cache of your computer?
    Yes, exactly. Not sure if it is a valid wish but I still have it. From what I see, the astral miasm is choking us.

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    I encountered what I think is part of a deliberate effort to frustrate and obfuscate the ability to access our warranties. I have a 2018 subaru with 64,000 miles. The console has a touch button screen for radio etc. It went haywire and I went to a Subaru dealership an hour away for evaluation. The repair is close to 1600.00 dollars BUT I have an extended warranty till 2027.

    This is both a huge bill and a necessary function. Some people would be hard pressed like me to come up with it. That is why we seek warranties. How often do we need them? But if we have one that actually covers costs, thenwe HAVE it.

    The dealership didn't find it recorded (using a VIN number to look up records). I went to the Ford dealership to verify and the NEXT phase was simply computer generated program to wear me down. I was given faulty information. I left Ford with details about my plan and a phone number that did not have anything to do with the program. Two calls to the Ford dealership later, I had a working number for the warranty program. The FIRST 2 numbers took me to a hard sell medicare scam about the pendant to push if you fall. WEIRD. Could AI just arbitrarily swith numbers?

    Anyway, it seems that computer generated info is suspect now. Why was that weird number on their service profile for the warranty?

    There was a horrible music that played over and over while I waited in endless hold.

    I finally talked to someone in the department that deals with the warranty and finally gave good info to Subaru dealership. This was a couple of hours later. They will check and get back to me.

    My take away is that THIS is what is happening THROUGHOUT daily life navigating the system. It is MY thought that If what is called AI is just a big interconnected network programmed to drive us mad, IF it is programmed to make every feedback system like a warranty almost impossible to make good on, THEN it is just obvious to me that we are being subjected to an intense effort to make us unable to learn anything NEW because we are in a constant feedback loop of a program like a Kafka vision.
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