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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    This coming from Stephen Miller, Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy and Homeland Security Advisor, in both Trump terms, has shared this on X. Sentiment wise I really couldn't agree more, but, how to defeat it would be to continue with Charlie's approach. We do not want the imposition of mass forms of censorship; the work has to be genuinely spiritual. I do hope that this is the spirit in which this has been written - we'll see

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    There is an ideology that has steadily been growing in this country which hates everything that is good, righteous and beautiful and celebrates everything that is warped, twisted and depraved. It is an ideology at war with family and nature. It is envious, malicious, and soulless. It is an ideology that looks upon the perfect family with bitter rage while embracing the serial criminal with tender warmth. Its adherents organize constantly to tear down and destroy every mark of grace and beauty while lifting up everything monstrous and foul. It is an ideology that leads, always, inevitably and willfully, to violence — violence against those uphold order, who uphold faith, who uphold family, who uphold all that is noble and virtuous in this world. It is an ideology whose one unifying thread is the insatiable thirst for destruction.

    We see the workings of this ideology in every posting online cheering the evil assassination that cruelly robbed this nation of one of its greatest men. Postings from those in positions of institutional authority — educators, healthcare workers, therapists, government employees — reveling in the vile and the sinister with the most chilling glee.

    The fate of millions depends upon the defeat of this wicked ideology. The fate of our children, our society, our civilization hinges on it.

    Now we devote ourselves, with love and unyielding determination, to finishing the indispensable work to which Charlie bravely devoted his life and gave his last measure of devotion.
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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    dim/ dumb comment in my opinion. the live by to sword part. I dont know you but I am sure, when applied to your own self, family or friends, if someone was was attacking them to kill them you would be well thankful that someone shot the mother ****er! This Country is only still free because of our 2nd amendment.

    the problem today is very few people seem to apply things to what if it were me? The answer is always so opposite when it is their child being attacked, their home being invaded, their car being hit by someone illegal without insurance, when they own their own store, and the liberal smash and grab takes place at their own loss .
    People who are anti-gun, take the position of the victims of crime, after the fact. People who are pro-gun take the position of thwarting the aggressor. Both have incomplete understanding. There really is no resolution here. It's like the abortion issue.
    Good observation. If we ban the 2nd Amendment, however, the dynamic of that observation would change. We would close the door absolutely on the position of thwarting the aggressor, while the opposing points of view would merge into the same camp, victims of crime.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Trump just announced on Fox they have the suspect in custody as of now. "With a high degree of certainty."

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Here is the video of what Trump said

    https://x.com/catturd2/status/1966475155141517397




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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    More shocking than downright hatred for Charlie Kirk is seeing people gleefully celebrate his death. Someone who never personally caused them harm, only espoused a position, a philosophy, they happened to disagree with.

    But is it not possible he was shot for something he never said and never believed?

    Shame on you Stephen King.


    https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1966416740369232145



    If Charlie Kirk said anything of this sort I'm not aware of it at all. I strongly doubt he ever did say this, or 'advocated' it. He was for peace and love and for bringing people together.

    Don't underestimate the demonisation and weaponisation of conservatives by the legacy mainstream media. They lie, they twist, and they wilfully, knowingly, fabricate. Celebrities and influencers (shills) are complicit in the same evil. For those of reduced or impaired awareness who listen, the result is nothing short of mind control.
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    Quote Posted by seekingtruth (here)
    Trump just announced on Fox they have the suspect in custody as of now. "With a high degree of certainty."
    Now the rabbit hole will become even deeper, an easier path to Wonderland.....
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Here’s an important perspective from ‘Down Under’:


    Australians have a finely tuned, well-balanced, often used, “bulls**t indicator”. Most people I’ve spoken to in the last 48 hours are well-aware of CC. They’re also very well-aware of the opportunistic propagada-grab from the mainstream media. Nobody trusts them. The people know that there is an attempt to limit truth and freedom of expression in this country. And most Australians whom I’ve listened to are wise to the constant bulls**t that is rammed down our throats 24/7 by mainstream media channels in proxy of the ‘Capitol’ [the Australian Capitol Territory].

    In light of the ‘hit’ on CC, the agenda to squash freedom of speech is under a massive floodlight. It’s wide-out in the open. “The emperor has no clothes”. Everyone sees it.

    People in the regional towns are talking. I can’t speak for the big cities, but after travelling across the FNQ area in the last two days, I can tell you that people are waking up, and they’re waking up fast.

    I think you’ll find that, tragic as this event is, it may very well have awakened an awareness that will ripple through regional towns and key areas. The cities are dependent on those areas for their food and resources. I believe that this is a “turning point” (to purloin a phrase) that will eventually turn out very badly for those entities behind the attempt to shut-down freedom in any form.

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    There is a clearer version out there, but, this shared by Matt Wallace on X - audio optional; all can determine what's happening here without commentary:



    UPDATE: a clearer shorter loop version here at 12 seconds duration

    I don't see him carrying a rifle. So if he is the shooter how did the rifle get into the woods?

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Suspect apprehended. 22-year-old Tyler Robinson of Utah.


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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    More shocking than downright hatred for Charlie Kirk is seeing people gleefully celebrate his death. Someone who never personally caused them harm, only espoused a position, a philosophy, they happened to disagree with.

    But is it not possible he was shot for something he never said and never believed?

    Shame on you Stephen King.


    https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1966416740369232145



    If Charlie Kirk said anything of this sort I'm not aware of it at all. I strongly doubt he ever did say this, or 'advocated' it. He was for peace and love and for bringing people together.

    Don't underestimate the demonisation and weaponisation of conservatives by the legacy mainstream media. They lie, they twist, and they wilfully, knowingly, fabricate. Celebrities and influencers (shills) are complicit in the same evil. For those of reduced or impaired awareness who listen, the result is nothing short of mind control.
    Stephen King is a deep state black mailed pedophile stooge. If they are utilizing him for an opinion it really is a intelligence hit.

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    Quote Stephen King is a deep state black mailed pedophile stooge. If they are utilizing him for an opinion it really is a intelligence hit.
    And here I thought he was just another lefty TDS-suffering, propaganda-mind-controlled crazy, like I suspect Keith Olbermann is.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Suspect apprehended. 22-year-old Tyler Robinson of Utah.


    https://x.com/Rightanglenews/status/1966489138644807742
    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Suspect apprehended. 22-year-old Tyler Robinson of Utah.


    https://x.com/Rightanglenews/status/1966489138644807742
    Yep, this guy has the same shoes. It’s incontrovertible evidence. [sarcasm]. Everybody with those (commonly available) shoes must be held as a suspect. Be careful amidst the hysteria. Perceived evidence is not equivalent to actual evidence.

    Please, be careful. Be mindful. We’ve been shown this “dog ‘n pony” show before (JFK anyone?). Are we really going to buy-in to this again?

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    There is a clearer version out there, but, this shared by Matt Wallace on X - audio optional; all can determine what's happening here without commentary:



    UPDATE: a clearer shorter loop version here at 12 seconds duration

    I don't see him carrying a rifle. So if he is the shooter how did the rifle get into the woods?
    He's carrying something wrapped in what looks like black cloth or a jacket. It could be a rifle.

    I watched the clip several times and I honestly can't say he wasn't carrying a rifle.

    If he really is the shooter and actually used a Mauser 30-06, I must say, that was an incredible shot! Perhaps even a "lucky" shot. There's no way he was inexperienced with guns, especially that specific gun.

    It's not impossible that this is what actually happened and this really is the shooter. It's very easy to wander down all the rabbit holes in situations like this. Humans have wild imaginations!

    At this point this is what I'm thinking what went down, I can change my mind though if "evidence" steers me in a different direction.
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    FBI Director Kash Patel to Hold Press Conference on Arrest of Charlie Kirk Shooting Suspect


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    Visa STOPPED for Foreigners who Celebrated Charlie Kirk Assassination
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    Huge shift in policy by The US State Department. plus UK Authority Figures under criticism
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Seems they have their man. Im sure we all saw the press conference. No one knows conspiracy theories better than the members on Avalon, myself included. But I had to remind my friend this morning, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar

    Are there oddities here in the story so far? ? There always are. The gun while jumping off the roof? 7000, now up to 11 thousand tips to the Feds? Of course these could be wrong estimates etc.
    But all the info is not nearly in and many people , including my friend are determined to small a rat. This is the result of the american people being lied to so many times

    anyone hear any discrepancies so far?

    I will wait ,watch and see it play out.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    George Webb is live right now on Twitter/X talking about how they got the patsy but not the team that got away on a private plane. He discusses how a breakaway group of disaffected ATF guys likely formed this team. So, how is the Trump administration going to handle this part of the problem I wonder?

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by RatRodRob...RRR (here)
    Quote Posted by rgray222 (here)
    i was going to put this on the great quotes thread but i think it is more appropriate here on this day

    Quote hate can not drive out hate, only love can do that.
    Martin luther king.
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    Rob, as a rule, I normally let these types of comments pass without concern. Please understand that I ask this question with no anger or animosity, but rather pure curiosity. It is my feeling that Martin Luther King put this so succinctly because he understood that love was the only true antidote for hate. Had this young man (or whoever you believe pulled the trigger), had love in their heart instead of hate, Charlie Kirk would still be alive today. This is simply a fact. It may sound a bit trite to you, but often the truth is just as simple as it gets.
    What would you consider the antidote for hate?

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Mugshot below.


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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

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    More shocking than downright hatred for Charlie Kirk is seeing people gleefully celebrate his death. Someone who never personally caused them harm, only espoused a position, a philosophy, they happened to disagree with.

    But is it not possible he was shot for something he never said and never believed?

    Shame on you Stephen King.


    https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1966416740369232145



    If Charlie Kirk said anything of this sort I'm not aware of it at all. I strongly doubt he ever did say this, or 'advocated' it. He was for peace and love and for bringing people together.

    Don't underestimate the demonisation and weaponisation of conservatives by the legacy mainstream media. They lie, they twist, and they wilfully, knowingly, fabricate. Celebrities and influencers (shills) are complicit in the same evil. For those of reduced or impaired awareness who listen, the result is nothing short of mind control.

    King retracts....



    Last edited by mountain_jim; 12th September 2025 at 18:14.
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