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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Another woke lunatic strikes again. Never saw that one coming. I sat up all night running scenarios thru my head, and that's the one thing I would have never guessed.

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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Suspect apprehended. 22-year-old Tyler Robinson of Utah.


    https://x.com/Rightanglenews/status/1966489138644807742
    100% speculation here ... this smells 100% like those managing the public perception narrative are presenting us plebs (after a convincing man-hunt that doesn't seem so convincing to) a wind-up patsy to sew up their psyop.

    Again, just speculation. But if I were to place a bet, that's where my $ would go.

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    More shocking than downright hatred for Charlie Kirk is seeing people gleefully celebrate his death. Someone who never personally caused them harm, only espoused a position, a philosophy, they happened to disagree with.

    But is it not possible he was shot for something he never said and never believed?

    Shame on you Stephen King.


    https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1966416740369232145



    If Charlie Kirk said anything of this sort I'm not aware of it at all. I strongly doubt he ever did say this, or 'advocated' it. He was for peace and love and for bringing people together.

    Don't underestimate the demonisation and weaponisation of conservatives by the legacy mainstream media. They lie, they twist, and they wilfully, knowingly, fabricate. Celebrities and influencers (shills) are complicit in the same evil. For those of reduced or impaired awareness who listen, the result is nothing short of mind control.
    Stephen King is a deep state black mailed pedophile stooge. If they are utilizing him for an opinion it really is a intelligence hit.
    That's giving him a lot of credit. He sounds more like a complete idiot to me. Just my two cents.

    But he does have a great imagination and knows how to churn out a good b-rate piece of fiction.

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    Seems they have their man. Im sure we all saw the press conference. No one knows conspiracy theories better than the members on Avalon, myself included. But I had to remind my friend this morning, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar
    We know nothing at all, yet, about this 22 year old kid. Maybe he was an expert marksman, or in a rifle club, or went to the gun range every week. Dunno. But first question that jumps out to me is how he could pull off such a precise shot from that distance if he was some woke lunatic with a grievance.

    Time will tell; the truth will eventually come out.

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    It is very sad, what is happening now... in political arena in US...
    I remember some videos and articles where they talked with Charlie... Cenk, Anna on YT and others... I like their debates... and I like to listen Charlie too..

    Here is Mehdi.. talking about some are politicizing this tragedy... and I think he is right... anyhow, I do not agree with everything with him.. vaccines etc... but I respect Mehdi stands about free speech and Palestinian rights ... I know some right wing people, are smearing him.. with hateful intentions... in my eyes, he is very honest human being and very smart one...
    It is very sad situation! Period!

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    President Trump announced on Friday that a suspect was in custody for the killing of far-right activist Charlie Kirk. Although the motive has not yet been established, Trump has escalated his attacks on the political left, saying, "We just have to beat the hell out of them." Democracy Now! speaks with Mehdi Hasan, editor-in-chief and CEO of Zeteo, who says that the right is using Kirk's killing to smear the left.

    "There's a real rewriting of history going on. It's what far-right regimes do after tragedies like this: They try and weaponize them to go after their enemies," says Hasan. "None of us should celebrate political violence, because it's a threat to all of us," he adds.

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    https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status...45475663696052



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    “Charlie Kirk loved Trump & Trump loved him - he was one of the only people that went to the White House and said I think the war with Iran is a bad thing”

    “He took massive, massive abuse from his own Donors”

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    One comment:"FBI did nothing.... The police did nothing.... They were handed the killer."
    Very suspicious to me....

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    100% speculation here ... this smells 100% like those managing the public perception narrative are presenting us plebs (after a convincing man-hunt that doesn't seem so convincing to) a wind-up patsy to sew up their psyop.

    Again, just speculation. But if I were to place a bet, that's where my $ would go.
    I don't think they need mind-controlled patsies playing the lunatic anymore, do they? Not patsies in the traditional sense. They've an army of willing lunatics out there that they created, created by bombarding them with propaganda these last ten years. "Nazism." "Fascism." "White supremacy." To many of these fools, that's what Charlie Kirk represented. You need only trawl social media feeds to see how many on the left are fully condoning this act. They're whooping and laughing and punching the air. The hatred is real, and the media stoked it.

    I'm not saying its impossible he's a patsy, but I highly doubt it. Also, who do you mean when you say "those managing the public perception narrative"? Not Trump or anyone in his regime..(?). Personally, I don't see that happening. Not with Charlie Kirk. Not in a million years.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Quote Posted by T Smith (here)
    100% speculation here ... this smells 100% like those managing the public perception narrative are presenting us plebs (after a convincing man-hunt that doesn't seem so convincing to) a wind-up patsy to sew up their psyop.

    Again, just speculation. But if I were to place a bet, that's where my $ would go.
    I don't think they need mind-controlled patsies playing the lunatic anymore, do they? Not patsies in the traditional sense. They've an army of willing lunatics out there that they created, created by bombarding them with propaganda these last ten years. "Nazism." "Fascism." "White supremacy." To many of these fools, that's what Charlie Kirk represented. You need only trawl social media feeds to see how many on the left are fully condoning this act. They're whooping and laughing and punching the air. The hatred is real, and the media stoked it.

    I'm not saying its impossible he's a patsy, but I highly doubt it. Also, who do you mean when you say "those managing the public perception narrative"? Not Trump or anyone in his regime..(?). Personally, I don't see that happening. Not with Charlie Kirk. Not in a million years.
    Clandestine agrees

    https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/1966568977498263988



    What is the root of the problem?

    This demonic Left-wing ideology and the corrupt MSM that broadcasts their violent rhetoric.

    This is NOT an isolated event. This is an extension of the treasonous conspiracy against Trump and We the People.

    The Dems/MSM created this monster.

    This was not an accident. This was by design. They created a standing army of brainwashed extremists who actually believe Trump and his supporters are Nazis, and they have been conditioned to think it’s okay to use violence against us.


    The Dems/MSM have REPEATEDLY encouraged their supporters to use violence against Trump and his supporters, based on lies that they created.

    This is not hyperbole. This is reality.


    We are under attack from within, and until we address the root of the problem, things will not change.



    https://x.com/LucienWolfe111/status/1966499985203015733




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    Tyler Robinson didn’t just “snap.”
    He was manufactured.

    Classrooms became factories.
    Professors became engineers.
    And out the other side comes another radical, programmed to hate.

    The question isn’t *why him*.
    The question is: how many more are they building right now?




    https://x.com/catturd2/status/1966566343278235787




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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    I think this is important. And I feel I have to confess that I still don't trust the all-too-familiar narrative about yet another 'lone shooter'.

    https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/160000

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    The Greyzone reports that Charlie Kirk’s assassination followed a sharp break with Israel and its powerful allies. A Trump insider and close friend said Kirk rejected Netanyahu’s offer to flood Turning Point USA with new donor money, believing it was an attempt to silence his growing criticism of Israel’s outsized influence in Washington.

    Once one of the most reliable pro-Israel voices on the right, Kirk had begun openly questioning Netanyahu’s sway over Trump, warning against a U.S. strike on Iran and raising suspicions about Israeli intelligence operations. His shift reflected growing anti-Israel sentiment among younger conservatives and came to a head at his July summit, where speakers openly denounced Israel’s role in U.S. politics.

    In the weeks before his September 10 assassination, Kirk said he was receiving a barrage of angry messages from wealthy pro-Israel donors, which left him shaken and fearful. Candace Owens and other allies described him as being under intense pressure and in the midst of a “spiritual transformation.”

    While no evidence directly ties Israel to Kirk’s killing, speculation exploded online, fueled by his recent break with Netanyahu. The Israeli leader quickly denied involvement and tried to frame Kirk as a loyal friend of Israel, while figures like Ben Shapiro seized the moment to attack him and move in on his audience.

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    A shocking number of people seen rejoicing Kirk's murder are teachers and university professors. Education. That's the real indoctrination camp. That's where the damage is being done. In my view, there's no better time than now than to home-school your kids.

    The media too, of course, who have been infiltrated top to bottom. Look at this. Wikipedia -- the go-to encyclopedia of everything -- had this to say on Charlie Kirk's page less than 24hrs after his death.

    They've since changed this after backlash.
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    https://x.com/G_Male_Baby/status/1966542195407634666




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    He was probably drawing from concealed carry in order to be ready to engage anyone who is a threat. This is not a surprise.
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    New video emerges of a Man in the immediate chaos after the assassination appearing to be clutching a hand gun.


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    UPDATE: Charlie Kirk

    🚨 Video of a Man in the Crowd spotted Running Away with Gun after Charlie Kirk was Shot

    Three thoughts:

    1. It could simply someone with a concealed carry who pulled after the fact

    2. Authorities did say they had “Plain Clothed” officers in the crowd that day

    3. This person should be easily identifiable. At the very least, I hope the FBI talks to, identifies, and clears him, and tells the public. If they don’t, it will only fuel speculation.

    🔻 Considering his build, I would say he’s plain clothed law enforcement… because it would have been foolish to run around with a weapon drawn after what just happened.



    Candace Owens
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    Bibi Netanyahu lied about the contents of the letter Charlie wrote to him in May.
    It was a lie by severe omission and it isn’t sitting right with me.




    Candace Owens
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    Correct. More people were involved and we need to know whom. A lot of school shootings are related to discord chats so there is an underground emerging and we need to know who the directors of it are.
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    So Tyler Robinson was communicating with someone(s) on discord prior to, and about the assassinat!on of Charlie Kirk

    Someone provided him with the rifle



    https://x.com/0HOUR1__/status/1966519972366106922



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    Discord Chats will be key in this investigation.

    Tyler was texting how to get the weapon back to friends.

    So they knew he did that ****.

    How many did he tell is key.


    Did he speak about violence prior to Charlie Kirk's murder.

    If they find a huge chatroom where he proclaimed he wanted to hurt Charlie all these little ****s are accessories to a murder.
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    As always when an Antifa radical is exposed for deadly violence—Charles Landeros, Connor Betts, Willem van Spronsen, Michael Reinoehl—the left and Antifa scramble to cover, spinning lies and disinformation while the media looks away.

    But this time, the assassination of Charlie Kirk is too big for the media to ignore, unlike how they've treated the other victims. So expect misdirection from leftists again: claims about the suspect’s conservative parents, or that the arrow markings on a cartridge were just a video game reference, or that he didn't make a trans reference but rather a furry one.

    What they ignore are the facts. Other cartridges were inscribed with “Hey fascist!” and lyrics from the Antifa anthem “Bella Ciao”—the same lyric cited in Willem van Spronsen’s manifesto before his terrorist attack in Tacoma, Wash. And the suspect’s own family told investigators their son said Kirk was “spreading hate,” echoing the same rhetoric from Antifa, liberals and the far-left now openly celebrating his murder. https://ngocomment.com/p/charlie-kir...uspect-appears
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Here's Larry Johnson, who knows a lot about weapons, talking to Judge Napolitano a few hours ago about Tyler Robinson's purported Mauser rifle, and what it would have taken for Robinson to have taken the single kill shot.

    What's VERY interesting are the 800+ comments. Followers of Judge Nap's in-depth geopolitical interviews make up a smart, discerning and extremely well-informed community. The comments are overwhelmingly dubious and critical about the currently emerging 'official story'. And many are pointing at Israel.

    This doesn't mean that the official story is false or deceptive. What it does show (at least!) is that very few now automatically believe or trust any 'official' narrative about anything at all. And I'd suggest it also shows that there's now a widespread, deep-seated distrust of anything at all connected with Israel, its capabilities, its black ops record, and/or its motivations and agendas.


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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

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    Quote Posted by T Smith (here)
    100% speculation here ... this smells 100% like those managing the public perception narrative are presenting us plebs (after a convincing man-hunt that doesn't seem so convincing to) a wind-up patsy to sew up their psyop.

    Again, just speculation. But if I were to place a bet, that's where my $ would go.
    I don't think they need mind-controlled patsies playing the lunatic anymore, do they? Not patsies in the traditional sense. They've an army of willing lunatics out there that they created, created by bombarding them with propaganda these last ten years. "Nazism." "Fascism." "White supremacy." To many of these fools, that's what Charlie Kirk represented. You need only trawl social media feeds to see how many on the left are fully condoning this act. They're whooping and laughing and punching the air. The hatred is real, and the media stoked it.

    I'm not saying its impossible he's a patsy, but I highly doubt it. Also, who do you mean when you say "those managing the public perception narrative"? Not Trump or anyone in his regime..(?). Personally, I don't see that happening. Not with Charlie Kirk. Not in a million years.
    I agree 100%; there is an entire army of brainwashed drifters primed for exactly this kind of desired violence, and for all the reasons (and more) you mention. I'm not suggesting the alleged shooter is a Sirhan Sirhan or Mark David Chapman kind of patsy--it just seems plausible to me that there may also be some shadow guidance facilitating the crime -- the kid might have planned this (even discussed it over social media) or even believes 100% he committed the shooting -- the press release mentioned there was a drop point to pick up the rifle wrapped in a towel. Who orchestrated the drop? How did he get the rifle? How did he know how to use it? And there may be perfectly plausible answers to all these questions; but I just haven't heard them answered yet. When I do, I guess i'll have a better idea of whether this guy is really a lone wolf or some leftist lunatic who was very expertly manipulated to pull off the crime.

    To be clear, I'm only speculating about all this at this point. But from what i know so far, it doesn't sound like a lone wolf shooting to me -- it sounds more like Mossad (or some other organized interest), with vast resources to psychologically profile from social media surveillance, and who may have "guided" or facilitated the perfect fall guy. Or somehow assured the bullet hit the intended target.

    Also, if the FBI--even under the Trump administration--had evidence that Mossad was the mastermind behind this plot, or even involved in any way, would they really be transparent about that? Wouldn't it be easier to just claim they got their guy, a quasi-half truth, and chalk up a victory for justice instead of opening that can of worms?

    I'm open to the lone wolf explanation. I just want more answers before I fully embrace it.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by T Smith (here)
    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Quote Posted by T Smith (here)
    100% speculation here ... this smells 100% like those managing the public perception narrative are presenting us plebs (after a convincing man-hunt that doesn't seem so convincing to) a wind-up patsy to sew up their psyop.

    Again, just speculation. But if I were to place a bet, that's where my $ would go.
    I don't think they need mind-controlled patsies playing the lunatic anymore, do they? Not patsies in the traditional sense. They've an army of willing lunatics out there that they created, created by bombarding them with propaganda these last ten years. "Nazism." "Fascism." "White supremacy." To many of these fools, that's what Charlie Kirk represented. You need only trawl social media feeds to see how many on the left are fully condoning this act. They're whooping and laughing and punching the air. The hatred is real, and the media stoked it.

    I'm not saying its impossible he's a patsy, but I highly doubt it. Also, who do you mean when you say "those managing the public perception narrative"? Not Trump or anyone in his regime..(?). Personally, I don't see that happening. Not with Charlie Kirk. Not in a million years.
    I agree 100%; there is an entire army of brainwashed drifters primed for exactly this kind of desired violence, and for all the reasons (and more) you mention. I'm not suggesting the alleged shooter is a Sirhan Sirhan or Mark David Chapman kind of patsy--it just seems plausible to me that there may also be some shadow guidance facilitating the crime -- the kid might have planned this (even discussed it over social media) or even believes 100% he committed the shooting -- the press release mentioned there was a drop point to pick up the rifle wrapped in a towel. Who orchestrated the drop? How did he get the rifle? How did he know how to use it? And there may be perfectly plausible answers to all these questions; but I just haven't heard them answered yet. When I do, I guess i'll have a better idea of whether this guy is really a lone wolf or some leftist lunatic who was very expertly manipulated to pull off the crime.

    To be clear, I'm only speculating about all this at this point. But from what i know so far, it doesn't sound like a lone wolf shooting to me -- it sounds more like Mossad (or some other organized interest), with vast resources to psychologically profile from social media surveillance may have "guided" or facilitated the perfect fall guy. Or somehow assured the bullet hit the intended target.

    Also, if the FBI--even under the Trump administration--had evidence that Mossad was the mastermind behind this plot, or even involved in any way, would they really be transparent about that? Wouldn't it be easier to just claim they got their guy, a quasi-half truth, and chalk up a victory for justice instead of opening that can of worms?

    I'm open to the lone wolf explanation. I just want more answers before I fully embrace it.
    Personally I'm thinking it is basically what it appears to be. A kid growing up in a somewhat normal "conservative" leaning family, probably hunting with dad for many years and familiar with guns. Went off to college and got radicalized by the insanity of the left like so many of the young are now-a-days.

    I'm not seeing hardly any of the bizzarro upside down and backwards ridiculous BS like we saw with Thomas Crooks and the whole Butler PA fiasco. I'm not seeing all these red flags like so many are claiming that makes me lean towards it was some kind of grand conspiracy, by Israel or anyone else.

    I may be wrong, but, at this point I don't think I am. The scumbag got off a lucky shot that hit its target, probably with his or his dads deer rifle that he shot many times through the years.
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