Did we really go to the Moon?

[Bill Ryan]

I've only just realized that 'WHISTLEBLOWER' (cited by Mark in his post #507 above), whose Twitter/X name is @truthtold24, is Charles McNeal, the subject of this interesting thread:

• A new 'Whistleblower Document'

This doesn't invalidate McNeal's Apollo 11/ Pine Gap claims at all (which I'd suggest have to be considered entirely plausible), but there's a lot of information on that thread about who McNeal is and how he came about what he says he knows which may need to be take carefully into consideration.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
For the tl;dr, Greer wraps up what really happened

This might not be the best thread for this -- Stephen Greer is mentioned on many threads on Avalon -- but this new (to me at least) video has a bit of suspicious background on Greer's origins, such as possible connection with Israeli intelligence and a dubious "medical doctor" biography.

The portion on Greer starts at the 25:54 mark of the following video:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6gFkQyHyocU

[onawah]

Why scientists and ancient records suggest the Moon isn’t natural
Lei's Looking Glass
32.1K subscribers
Aug 14, 2025

"For thousands of years, we’ve gazed at the Moon and thought we knew what it was. But what if everything we believed was wrong? NASA, Nobel laureate scientists, and many others have documented mounting evidence suggesting the Moon may not be a natural celestial body at all. Ancient Chinese texts even suggest it’s a manmade satellite—built by a prehistoric civilization.

Timestamp:

0:43 Astronomical evidence
2:44 Seismic evidence
4:47 Magnetic evidence
5:35 Density evidence
6:36 Absence of volcanoes
7:39 Lunar rock anomalies
8:37 Mysterious crater formations "

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PtnrXmbHJ7Y

[Johnnycomelately]

Here is a story of Project Apollo, from first unmanned testing steps, thru the manned moon missions, to missions to Skylab and meeting up with Soviets.

If anybody wants to point out falsities in what is shown or said here, be my guest.

Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
For the record

Every Apollo Mission.

Australian Military Aviation History
142K subscribers

Sept 21, 2025

We trace the Apollo program from Cold War origins to its collaborative finale, showing how disciplined engineering turned an audacious goal into reality. Opening with the Space Race—German rocketry legacies, Sputnik’s shock, and President Kennedy’s 1961 mandate—we follow NASA’s step-by-step build-up: Saturn I and IB test flights, the Launch Escape System trials, and the uncrewed Saturn V missions that proved (and improved) the giant booster. The Apollo 1 fire - explaining how the tragedy reshaped spacecraft design, safety culture, and test practices that would define the program going forward.

From there we move through the crewed milestones that “built the ladder” to the Moon. Apollo 7 qualified the command and service module; Apollo 8 orbited the Moon; Apollo 9 proved the Lunar Module in Earth orbit; and Apollo 10 rehearsed the landing in lunar orbit. The landing sequence highlights Apollo 11’s first footsteps and the precision, science, and resilience that followed—Apollo 12’s pinpoint touchdown, Apollo 13’s life-or-death rescue, and the “J-missions” (15–17) with the Lunar Roving Vehicle, deep field geology, and record science returns culminating with a geologist on the surface.

The final act shows how Apollo’s hardware and know-how extended beyond landings. Crewed Skylab missions repaired and activated America’s first space station, pioneered long-duration living and solar science, and refined in-orbit maintenance. We close with Apollo–Soyuz in 1975, the first U.S.–Soviet joint flight that tested international docking standards and signaled a new era of cooperation. Across twenty flights, Apollo validated heavy-lift launch, deep-space navigation, rendezvous and docking, surface mobility, and field science—laying practical groundwork for the Space Shuttle, space stations, and today’s return-to-the-Moon plans.

CONTENTS
00:00 Intro
00:48 Space Race Begins
03:48 Apollo Begins
07:41 Apollo 1 1967
10:11 Apollo 4 1967
11:21 Apollo 5 1968
12:49 Apollo 6 1968
14:44 Apollo 7 1968
16:48 Apollo 8 1968
18:59 Apollo 9 1969
21:00 Apollo10 1969
23:11 Apollo 11 1969
25:28 Apollo 12 1969
27:37 Apollo 13 1970
29:40 Apollo 14 1971
31:54 Apollo 15 1971
34:10 Apollo 16 1972
36:06 Apollo 17 1972
38:36 Skylab 2 1973
40:34 Skylab 3 1973
42:30 Skylab 4 1973-74
44:35 Apollo–Soyuz 1975

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BVEZQBXmi5s

[RunningDeer]

Here's another Bart Sibrel interview.

Leaked NASA Footage Confirms Spooky Details of Apollo 11 Moon Landing | Bart Sibrel

• March 31, 2025
• Danny Jones
• 1.12M subscribers

Bart Sibrel is a filmmaker & investigative journalist who directed the films "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" and "Astronauts Gone Wild". Bart is also author of the book "Moon Man: The True Story of a Filmmaker on the CIA Hit List."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=58YGzlW3Koc

00:00 - Wernher von Braun's warning about the moon
07:27 - How CIA maintains control of Americans
12:21 - Why questioning the moon landing is offensive
22:36 - Classified moon landing footage
38:53 - Strange Apollo 10 footage
47:06 - Photos of astronauts on the moon
01:02:38 - Eyewitness confessions
01:14:37 - The Van Allen radiation belt
01:24:02 - Elon Musk on going to the moon
01:32:53 - Assaulted by astronauts
01:39:36 - NASA scientist who funded Sibrel's film
01:45:56 - The Apollo 1 fire
01:54:33 - Extreme temperatures on the moon
02:01:51 - Neil Armstrong's cryptic message
02:10:29 - Moon landing press conference
02:29:13 - Stanley Kubrick
02:34:39 - Bart Sibrel debate
02:39:00 - Google AI moon landing analysis
02:48:52 - Would disclosure destroy America?

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
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Candace Owens interviews Bart Sibrel, to discuss his evidence that the moon landing was faked.

• How We Faked The Moon Landing With Bart Sibrel | Candace Ep 124

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P.S. -- During Sibrel's interview with Candace Owens, Sibrel refers to his website sibrel.com, which Candace also links to from the description below this Rumble video.

That URL "sibrel.com" still resolves to four legitimate IP addresses:

• 198.185.159.145
• 198.185.159.144
• 198.49.23.145
• 198.49.23.144

All four of these IP addresses are Squarespace.com IP addresses, which is a popular website for setting up small websites, such as I presume "sibrel.com" would be.

However that sibrel.com website has now been taken down, and inquiries to https://sibrel.com or to the http or https ports at any of these four Squarespace IP addresses all get a generic Squarespace HTML Error 400 error page (which various browsers will display in various browser specific ways).

In short, it appears to me that Sibrel's webpage, http://sibrel.com, has just been taken down, presumably because of this Candace Owens interview. But what do I know ... I'm just an old conspiracy theorist.

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P.P.S. -- Archive.org shows that the webpage https://sibrel.com was there, just two days ago, Archive.org has saved this webpage 910 times between April 28, 2001 and December 17, 2024. Now, with this interview with Candace Owens that was posted December 19, 2024 on Rumble just six hours ago, Sibel's website https://sibrel.com has been removed.

The final archive.org capture of Sibel's website is available at:

• https://web.archive.org/web/20241217...ww.sibrel.com/

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P.P.P.S -- False Alarm: The website https://sibrel.com is back up and running. Good!

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Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v5yq2q2

[Johnnycomelately]

Posted by RunningDeer (here)
Here's another Bart Sibrel interview.

Leaked NASA Footage Confirms Spooky Details of Apollo 11 Moon Landing | Bart Sibrel

• March 31, 2025
• Danny Jones
• 1.12M subscribers

Bart Sibrel is a filmmaker & investigative journalist who directed the films "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" and "Astronauts Gone Wild". Bart is also author of the book "Moon Man: The True Story of a Filmmaker on the CIA Hit List."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=58YGzlW3Koc

00:00 - Wernher von Braun's warning about the moon
07:27 - How CIA maintains control of Americans
12:21 - Why questioning the moon landing is offensive
22:36 - Classified moon landing footage
38:53 - Strange Apollo 10 footage
47:06 - Photos of astronauts on the moon
01:02:38 - Eyewitness confessions
01:14:37 - The Van Allen radiation belt
01:24:02 - Elon Musk on going to the moon
01:32:53 - Assaulted by astronauts
01:39:36 - NASA scientist who funded Sibrel's film
01:45:56 - The Apollo 1 fire
01:54:33 - Extreme temperatures on the moon
02:01:51 - Neil Armstrong's cryptic message
02:10:29 - Moon landing press conference
02:29:13 - Stanley Kubrick
02:34:39 - Bart Sibrel debate
02:39:00 - Google AI moon landing analysis
02:48:52 - Would disclosure destroy America?

bart Sibrel claims the CIA ordered Apollo 11 astronauts, who were in near earth orbit, to delay their radio responses 4 seconds, to simulate the delay that would occur if the spacecraft were halfway to the moon (this assumes the response starts immediately after the ground-origin message finished playing, in the capsule). If true, this would mean that a round trip radio time to the moon itself and back would be 8 seconds.

I have pulled a quote from the Wiki page Earth - Moon - Earth Communication.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%..._communication

Echo delay and time spread

Radio waves propagate in vacuum at the speed of light c, exactly 299,792,458 m/s. Propagation time to the Moon and back ranges from 2.4 to 2.7 seconds, with an average of 2.56 seconds (the average distance from Earth to the Moon is 384,400 km).

I got about an hour in, of L=2:54:17. The CIA stuff is in the first 15 min.

Hard to tell if he is lying, or if he believes. Either way, he sounds sketchy in everything he says.