Interesting Bits and Pieces about China

[Ravenlocke]

🇨🇳 China is encircling three deserts!

They're using soil-fixing plants, solar panels to provide them shade, all while creating farmland out of previously yellow sand.

Afforestation, Energy, and Food all in one, as well as protection from dust and sandstorms.

https://x.com/orikron/status/1950499700328513892

🇨🇳 Chinese workers and farmers have fully encircled the Taklamakan desert with their Great Green Wall.

This has helped put an end to chronic dust storms that threatened the livelihood of millions of people in Northwest China.

The focus has now shifted to thickening the Wall.

One really interesting thing is that this has been a mass project which has quite literally involved millions of people.

Many went there to give a symbolic contribution but others, like this farmer, are on the frontline of the efforts and post about it on Chinese social media

https://x.com/orikron/status/1950289964102492511

[norman]

China's LAST Nomads - Life With Kazakh Nomads In Xinjiang
2 hours ago

23 minutes

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uSRCfmUFyho

[Ravenlocke]

From Pepe Escobar traveling through China,


@RealPepeEscobar
endorsing local camel milk yougurt at Flaming Mountains in Turpan

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969300671028469814

.
@RealPepeEscobar
introducing Uyghur food at the table in a roadside restaurant in Turpan

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969312884350918973

As
@RealPepeEscobar
,
@RealJermWarfare
and I checked into the hotel in Turpan, Xinjiang, we crashed a Uyghur wedding party (after asking for permission to film).

Absolute highlight of our evening! Uyghur wedding is the next level!!!

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969419980166087117

[Ravenlocke]

Jerm Warfare
@RealJermWarfare

On a road trip through rural China with one of the last remaining great journalists, Pepe Escobar.

We will be travelling very near to the Afghanistan border.

https://x.com/RealJermWarfare/status...36332191813947

Just outside my hotel in Urumqi (Xinjiang).

It’s raining a bit too.

https://x.com/RealJermWarfare/status...87885602521363

Uyghur food is delicious.

#ShillingForTheCCP


https://x.com/RealJermWarfare/status...50387362521218

I’m in Xinjiang, where these people are apparently being killed by the Chinese government, according to Western media.

This is their last Friday night party before it’s all over.

https://x.com/RealJermWarfare/status...15251820794066

[Ravenlocke]

From Jerm Warfare

There is no social credit score in China.

I’m in Shanghai and nobody knows what it is.

There is a credit score, but most countries have that. For example, commit a crime and you might struggle getting a home loan. Or lose points if you have too many road violations.

https://x.com/RealJermWarfare/status...35941304414661

As part of my “China is a totalitarian hellhole” trip, I’ve just landed in Xinjiang, the most rural and politically sensitive province. Today I learnt if I say anything positive, I’m a CCP shill.

What a hellhole and here’s a black & white photo for extra hellhole-ness.

https://x.com/RealJermWarfare/status...54243231940690

I’m in a bookstore in China.

https://x.com/RealJermWarfare/status...89838297706768

This is why people like Winston are establishment hacks.

I say something positive or balanced about China and I’m suddenly a “CCP shill”. Remember, folks: ChinaManBad. Nothing else is permissible.

https://x.com/RealJermWarfare/status...40715393265976

[Ravenlocke]

From Carl Zha who is also traveling with Pepe Escobar,

Me and
@RealPepeEscobar
under wind turbines in Dabanchen rest stop on the way to Turpan, Xinjiang

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969342688039239815

We visited Bezekilik thousand Buddha caves in Turpan, Xinjiang. It's free for kids under 18 for the purpose of patriotic education.

I entered the caves and understood why. Imperialist looters such as Aurel Stein and Albert von Le Coq came here and vandalized the site by ripping murals and statues from the cave, left scars on the wall. Now you can visit the original in the British Museum, Berlin Museum and New Delhi

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969326148099457404

In Turpan. It's crazy how much this part of Xinjiang resembles California

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969296161618981231

Lunch at a Uyghur restaurant in Turpan, Xinjiang

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969276920916246696

Ran into two Uyghur performers who just wrapped up their performance at Grand Bazaar in Urumqi, Xinjiang

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969276420191834548

Wind farm outside of Urumqi on the way to Turpan.

Lots of wind and solar installations provide Xinjiang with lots of cheap electricity

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969220173732172150

Desert landscape dotted with wind farms and distant Tianshan Mountains just outside of Urumqi, Xinjing, actually reminds me of Palm Springs, California

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969223258697314758

[Ravenlocke]

We did the tourist thing in Urumqi, Xinjiang and visited the Grand Bazaar.

It was raining! The taxi driver said it was because of climate change, it rarely rains in Urumqi before.

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969161129667514538

At Urumqi's Grand Bazaar, they offer tourists to try on traditional Uyghur makeup and dress to take photos.

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969044497532092747

Went to the Uyghur part of Urumqi, Xinjiang. All the shop workers are Uyghur. Everyone speaks Uyghur.

I said "Yakshimusiz" to Uyghur taxi drivers and Uyghur waitresses. Their eyes widened in surprise and followed by smiles.

Just like almost everywhere else, if you just learn the basic greetings, People would open up to you.

Anglo world is an exception because they expect you to know English and will make fun of your accent

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969033953110790502

Just outside my hotel in Urumqi, Xinjiang

Taken from inside the taxi in the heart of Urumqi, Xinjiang

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969031271226720522

[onawah]

It's quite well known there is a social credit system in China and has been for years, which means Jerm Warfare is either a shill (there are plenty of them, Pepe included) or very unobservant and undiscerning (plenty of those too).
Anyone who is putting out a lot of disinfo about how well the Uyghurs are faring in China is either a dupe or a shill.
The CCP makes sure such tourists as Pepe and Jerm see only what they want them to see, and certainly nothing about how poorly treated the Uyghurs are in fact, and how they are being used as primary sources of human organ replacement.
And if you think the facts about the SCS are not well documented, think again...

Also, the fact that this forum is currently (and frequently) being messed with by China also tells us something. See:
QUOTE=ThePythonicCow;1686230]Good thing I had a good nights rest. Unfortunately, the attackers did too, and woke up before I did.
Here's the current list of countries from which this attack is coming:

1 Albania
6 Argentina
1 Bolivia
32 Brazil
1 Burkina Faso
1 Chile
1 Colombia
2 Dominican Republic
3 Ecuador
1 El Salvador
2 Ethiopia
1 Germany
1 Honduras
1 Hong Kong
11 India
5 Iraq
1 Japan
2 Jordan
1 Kazakhstan
2 Kenya
2 Libya
1 Myanmar
1 Nicaragua
1 Oman
1 Pakistan
2 Peru
2 Poland
9 Saudi Arabia
2 South Africa
1 Spain
1 The Netherlands
1 Turkey
4 Türkiye
1 United Kingdom
5 United States
1 Uruguay
1 Venezuela

The number in the first column is a rough measure of how strong the attack is from servers in that country.
China is not on the list, because for the last week, almost the entire attack was directly from servers in China. But now that I've mapped out those servers on my blocklist, they've gone to "Plan B", using all their "rent-a-servers" around the rest of the planet.
The forum server will probably be a wee bit sluggish on and off, as this battle goes back and forth, behind the scenes.[/QUOTE]

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Here are some credible reports about the Social Credit System
(The best is last, but it will take a lot of time to get through.)

The Truth About China's Social Credit System
PolyMatter
1.93M subscribers
900,018 views Jun 16, 2023

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Kqov6F00KMc

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A Look Inside China’s Social Credit System | NBC News Now
NBC News
11.5M subscribers
1.4M views 6 years ago
"NBC’s Janis Mackey Frayer goes inside the factories making facial recognition scanners that track the movements and communities experimenting with China’s social credit system."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0cGB8dCDf3c

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Inside China’s “social credit” surveillance system
For The Record | FRONTLINE | PBS
19K views

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=il0bMaHh4ms

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China Social Credit System Resistance
Sep 18, 2025
https://live.childrenshealthdefense....em-resistance/

(Starting at 23 minutes into the video, featuring Catherine Austin Fitts, one of the best, most credible whistleblowers ever.

"How does the credit score system work, and what does it have to do with the push for global control? In this installment of “Financial Rebellion,” hosts Catherine Austin Fitts and Carolyn Betts, along with their guest Reinette Senum, answer these questions in a way that is both easy to understand and motivating for action.
Resources
Dethroning Big Brother: China's Social Credit Rebellion Goes Viral:
https://reinettesenumsfoghornexpress...-chinas-social

The Fast-Approaching Digital Control Grid
https://solari.com/the-fast-approach...tions-to-date/

Using the U.S. States’ Constitutional Powers to Preserve Sovereignty and Financial Freedom: How We Can Stop the Coup:
https://solari.com/using-the-u-s-sta...now-available/

I Want to Stop CBDCs – What Can I Do?:
https://solari.com/i-want-to-stop-cbdcs-what-can-i-do/

Financial Transaction Freedom:
https://solari.com/financial-transaction-freedom-2/

How China's Digital Yuan Works:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bxdIKBZyGak

A Look Inside China’s Social Credit System | NBC News Now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cGB8dCDf3c

What is Programmable Money?:
https://www.federalreserve.gov/econr...-20210623.html

The GENIUS Act and Its Implications for Financial Transaction Freedom
https://solari.com/the-genius-act-an...ction-freedom/

Cash & Constitution Halloween Pushback
https://solari.com/take-action-promo...his-halloween/
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Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
From Jerm Warfare
There is no social credit score in China.
I’m in Shanghai and nobody knows what it is.
There is a credit score, but most countries have that. For example, commit a crime and you might struggle getting a home loan. Or lose points if you have too many road violations.
https://x.com/RealJermWarfare/status...35941304414661

[Ravenlocke]

Carl Zha

Ruin of Subash Buddhist temple complex in Kucha, Xinjiang

Tang Monk Xuan Zang 唐僧 preached here during his stay in Gaochang Kingdom on his way to India.

The temple was destroyed in the Mongol civil war aft Khan of Chagatai Khanate converted to Islam in 14th century

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1970888186890240328

We did a bit of driving thru desert today from Kucha to Aksu, Xinjiang

Tm we will cross the Taklamakan, the world's 2nd largest moving sand desert on a highway that China completed in little over a year between June 2006 to Nov 2007

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1970885867280666892

[Ravenlocke]

Carl Zha
Buddhist swastikas on the ceiling of Kucha's old masque dating frm 1561.

Some traces of Buddhist influence linger on even after this region in Xinjiang converted to Islam after the 14th century

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1970883526330614126

It still surprises me how much the landscape of Xinjiang looks like that of American West.
@RealPepeEscobar agrees.

@RealJermWarfare says it actually reminds him of his home in South Africa.

Our Shanghai photographer JJ say bc all the dry places look the same 干巴巴的地方都一样！

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1970879750299386154

[Ravenlocke]

Carl Zha


We went to Wensu Canyon in Aksu, Xinjiang.

I was tempted to pay 100 rmb for 15 min camel ride into the Canyon just for the footage but our photographer was busy operating drone in another section (later got busted by Chinese police for violating drone ban in the region)

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1970875696299094396

15 min after this pic was taken, we got visited by Chinese police.

Apparently there's a drone ban for next few weeks bc it's 70th anniversary of Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region and Xi Jinping is visiting. We flew drone bc we saw another Chinese tourist fly their drone. But police locked on us.

Our drone operator is a blonde Russian guy which raised more questions. When the police came, they saw him work on his big camera (he is our photographer).

Eventually, we got off with a warning not to fly the drone again in the drone ban period. They didn't ask to see our footage and let us go

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1970821072498090414

The Rock was very happy to see us in Xinjiang!

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1970873920342663297

[Ravenlocke]

Carl Zha

Sep 21
.
@RealPepeEscobar
walks around the ruins of a Buddhist temple in the ancient capital of Gaochang Uyghur Kingdom. 高昌故城

Even tho I have seen photos of Gaochang ruins before, I was surprised by its massive scale. Gaochang was destroyed in Mongol civil war in the 14th century

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969867560666693707

[Ravenlocke]

Sep 21
.
@RealPepeEscobar
got decked out in the manner of Uyghur bey in Xinjiang to carve the roasted whole lamb

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969869745525854315

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969769250215834108

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969748101524345138

[Ravenlocke]

Carl Zha

Sep 22
.
@RealPepeEscobar
kicks back and enjoys Jazz and Coffee in Kucha, Xinjiang and destroys Uyghur Genocide narrative of the West

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1970053796962447493

[Ravenlocke]

Pepe Escobar
@RealPepeEscobar
·
Sep 22
XINJIANG.

Urumqi last Saturday night - celebrating the 70th year of the development of Xinjiang under a unified China.

Xi will be in town today. I am in Kuqa - a 1h flight away to the West. My own Journey to the West continues, tracking the Ancient Silk Roads AND the real Xinjiang.

https://x.com/RealPepeEscobar/status...01850089111645

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1969766166181916989

[Ravenlocke]

Carl Zha
Getting ready for performance.

A seat at a table full of fruits and snacks, 20rmb.

Watching Uyghur uncles perform UNESCO intangible cultural heritage 12 Muquam

in a Kucha courtyard w
@RealPepeEscobar
, priceless!

The courtyard is in a building more than 110 years old!

The performance was amazing!

Kucha is really a hidden gem in Xinjiang. Highly recommend!

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1970660822977573309

Went to a performance in Kucha, Xinjiang where they recreated dances in the ancient Buddhist murals of Kizil cave with
@RealPepeEscobar
and
@RealJermWarfare
.
https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1970662078517235993

[Ravenlocke]

Uyghur wedding is lit!

Our guide told us that in Turpan, they hold 1 traditional ceremony for all the family members and elders, then they have another ceremony with all the young'uns. In Kashgar, the wedding would last 3 days!

https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1970977986443882608

[Ravenlocke]

From Angelica,

Angelica 🌐⚛️🇹🇼🇨🇳🇺🇸

Sep 9
As my trip to China draw to a close (and let’s face it I’m kind of confined to my hotel room by my gimpy foot) maybe it’s time to do some reflection.

A lot of Chinese ppl are eager to ask…what surprised you? What was better than you thought? What was worse?

I’ve been sharing lot of that along the way. But I don’t think I’ve shared the most important part of the journey, which is internal.

When you carry fear and negativity for years, it is all but impossible to logically dismiss those feelings.

I think I had pretty rationally concluded that I was misled about the true nature of China long before I physically got there. But there was still this internal tension…a fear that it’s all a charade! And that somehow if I touched the wrong tripwire while I’m there I’ll end up gulagized in some windowless room for wrongthink or something.

It’s the sort of thing that becomes transparently ridiculous as soon as I got here physically. Soon I was not just not in fear, I felt suuuuper relaxed and dare I say a little entitled. Yeah I played the I Taiwanese compatriot helllllp meeeeee with xyz card more than once.

I feel like we’ve been asking the wrong question in Taiwan all along. How are we going to resist China? How do we make sure the Chinese know Taiwan is not their property?

No…it’s the opposite. China…soon to be undeniably the most prosperous, advanced, enviable nation on earth…is OUR property! We have been barricading ourselves in the garden shed when we are a part of the same family that owns the whole damned house!

https://x.com/AngelicaOung/status/1965609359003857265

At Hongqiao now just waiting to board. 2hrs is pathologically early when there are e-gates and such short security lines.

One interesting thing I forgot to mention…I looked and looked for birch sap when I was in Sweden because I heard it’s so good but failed. RANDOMLY I found it in a Shanghai 7/11 last night! Damn I love globalization!

The taste is very subtle. It’s like more dilute coconut water. But refreshing. I feel like it’s great for when you’re very thirsty but don’t want to drink just water.

https://x.com/AngelicaOung/status/1966091586053579056

Finally found a Labubu! It’s outside a Guizhou resto chain. It was delicious but spicy and wayyyy too huge in portions!

I got 折耳根 for the first time. Challenging, but not as bad as fish mint in Vietnamese food! I think it’s the same plant but the root vs leaves!

https://x.com/AngelicaOung/status/1966039146507677904

[sdv]

https://youtu.be/lx1SIEwwZrU?si=D2oR9oG8ewFgUAfR

The Golden Triangle Special Economic Zone in China is a fascinating enigma, and the video by Mike Okay is my favourite on the enclave.

Groomed by decades of Hollywood movies and media stereotyping, many in the world are not capable of contemplating, comprehending or tolerating the true complexity of humanity. So, before you assign stereotyping to this enigma, casting China as evil, soak in the bizarre oddity of this part of China.

[onawah]

I don't think anyone here has "cast China as evil", though the CCP certainly does a lot of very evil deeds and there is really no credible contesting of that.

Posted by sdv (here)
https://youtu.be/lx1SIEwwZrU?si=D2oR9oG8ewFgUAfR

The Golden Triangle Special Economic Zone in China is a fascinating enigma, and the video by Mike Okay is my favourite on the enclave.

Groomed by decades of Hollywood movies and media stereotyping, many in the world are not capable of contemplating, comprehending or tolerating the true complexity of humanity. So, before you assign stereotyping to this enigma, casting China as evil, soak in the bizarre oddity of this part of China.