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    Default Re: A major key to a long and healthy life: fasting or a ketogenic diet

    Like Flash said, you need more fat.
    It you were to look into the carnivore diet community, they would also advise this, as can I from personal experience.

    Unfortunately, as tasty as bacon is there is usually added salt and sugar, even from local farm shop suppliers as this aids the curing process.

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    I began with a low carb, protein diet 5+ weeks ago. Three days in, I cut out all carbs. For now, I’m experimenting with the carnivore diet, i.e. plant free lifestyle. It is suggested to give it at least 3-6 months.

    The biggest change already is the pain in my lower back is almost gone. It’s from an old injury from lifting a heavy air conditioner in the spring and fall seasons.

    The goal is to remove all inflammation in my body. Based on when I get out of bed in the morning, I can say it’s working. I now know the aches and stiffness isn’t so much age related nor too much exercise. It’s the food choices.

    My latest bit of knowledge is if you’re allergic to eggs then eat only the egg yoke. I was pleasantly surprised to find out that it did the trick. For some, it’s the opposite. They do best with only the egg whites.

    Typically, I eat two meals a day. Every now and again I’ll have a third. I’m most excited that I don’t have any thoughts or desire for snacks hours before bed nor cravings for carbs at all.
    "Plants as living organisms, want to live and have offspring and just like most living species they don’t want to die. Unlike animals, plants cannot run from predators. Instead, they have developed sophisticated mechanisms to ensure predators stay away. Because they are stuck in place and at the mercy of predators, they have developed ways of generating toxins that signal predators to back off. For example, deadly nightshades cause paralysis and eventually paralyzes the heart to stop beating."

    ~ by Judy Cho, BCHN, FNTP, Chapter 4: Plant Toxins and Antinutrients, page 50-51. The Complete Carnivore Diet for Beginners: Your Practical Guide to an All-Meat Lifestyle. Also author of The Carnivore Cure, 2020.
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    • I purchased this book by Judy Cho. It's a simple read and includes helpful charts, diagrams, suggestions and photos. Her YouTube channel is Nutrition with Judy.


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    The Complete Carnivore Diet for Beginners is the definitive carnivore starter guide. Informative and approachable. No dogma. Just a practical template for success.

    The carnivore diet is surging in popularity. And while its contrarian tenets may fly in the face of conventional nutritional recommendations, millions of people, and emerging research, are showing it to be a healing nutritional template, when done correctly. If you are new to the carnivore diet, this is your go-to resource for doing it safely and sustainably.

    In this accessible guide, board-certified holistic nutritionist Judy Cho covers the “why” of carnivore eating with well-referenced scientific information on the pitfalls of modern plant-based diets and how animal-based eating can support health, disease amelioration, and, contrary to popular belief, nutrient density.

    You’ll learn how to successfully implement a carnivore lifestyle, including:
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    Unlike competing books, which are heavy tomes dense on text, The Complete Carnivore Diet For Beginners gives you information in simple, engaging, easily understood graphics, sidebars, FAQs, and chapter summaries.

    Combining science-supported nutritional protocol and practical application, this is the must-have beginner’s guide to animal-based eating.
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    Nina Teicholz: "Now, I write with Gary Tabbs another journalist and we are just trying to do what should be in nutrition journalism everywhere. Which is bringing kind of investigative critical mind to science, the politics, the finances and funding behind some of these dietary recommendations. We're trying to pull back the curtain on what our food nutrition landscape looks like. I've been in this field now for over a decade."


    Nina Teicholz: "I put out a call on Twitter for carnivore women. I had hundreds of responses. What I learned was there's a lot of very sick women over 40. Most of them came to carnivore not because they're trying to look good in a muscle T-shirt but because they're really really sick. The list of health conditions is incredible. What people are dealing with are autoimmune condition, skin conditions, all kinds bone joint pain, a long list of IBS issues.

    I listed all of the conditions that people who had responded to my Twitter call and they said they had resolved them and in some cases very quickly on carnivore diet. Things you would never think were associated with diet ever. Like somebody said their vertigo has gone. I mean things that just don't even seem related to diet, so that was a revelation to me.

    Then I went back to look at the origins of the carnivore movement and it turns out that is also dominated by women. The earliest carnivore online message forum board was in 2007-2008. Most of the moderators and the people in that group were women who had were unable to lose weight on low-carb and we're looking to figure out how to lose weight or resolve health conditions."

    Is Carnivore a Right-Wing Toxic Masculinity Diet? – Nina Teicholz (1:05:00)
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    Nina and I talk about women's involvement in the carnivore movement, health risks associated with seed oils, and much more. Make sure to listen to the full interview to learn more.

    Nina Teicholz, PhD, is a renowned investigative science journalist and New York Times best-selling author. With a profound commitment to reshaping our understanding of dietary fats, her seminal work, The Big Fat Surprise, challenges decades of conventional wisdom regarding the health impacts of saturated fats and the efficacy of low-fat diets. Teicholz's rigorous investigation reveals the complex interplay of science and politics that has shaped dietary guidelines, urging a reevaluation of nutritional norms that have long been taken for granted.
    0:00 Intro
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    All about Nina Teicholz
    4:33
    Discussion on her recent carnivore diet article
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    Women's involvement in the carnivore movement
    11:02
    Media portrayal of the carnivore diet
    22:16
    Addressing carnivore diet misinformation
    28:13
    Findings from B12 studies
    32:11
    Health benefits of a low-carb diet
    35:36
    Comparison of seed oils and saturated
    50:57 Efforts to revise dietary guidelines
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    1:02:58 Where to find Nina Teicholz
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    Default Re: A major key to a long and healthy life: fasting or a ketogenic diet

    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
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    The biggest change already is the pain in my lower back is almost gone.
    ...
    The goal is to remove all inflammation in my body. Based on when I get out of bed in the morning, I can say it’s working. I now know the aches and stiffness isn’t so much age related nor too much exercise. It’s the food choices.
    ...
    This is exactly my experience as well. In particular, eating wheat based foods and highly processed foods of any kind cause significant body pain that I too thought was caused by age and injury. Potatoes and rice also cause inflammation but not as quickly or severely. NOTE: I have been tested and I am not a celiac.

    For those of you who want to see if this is true for you, I can tell you what I did. I got my carbs below 60 gms / day for about a week or 2 (not an easy task). This resulted in significant pain relief. Then, any time I ate wheat based foods and/or highly processed foods of any kind, my pain would return the next day.

    Hope this helps.
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    Mod note from Bill:

    I've merged this with the longer thread titled A major key to a long and healthy life: fasting or a ketogenic diet, as the issues discussed overlap almost completely. Both threads contain a great deal of good information (which I can vouch for personally ) and so this new combined thread is now a most valuable single information source for everyone.


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    Is Carnivore a Right-Wing Toxic Masculinity Diet?
    UPDATE: This is another passage from the video above and Nina Teicholz’s book: “The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet” where she’s made references to the topic in the video.
    Nina Teicholz: "Products like Weston oil and corn oil, they were marketed for their cholesterol lowering powers. It was like, “Ask your doctor to tell you about vegetables oil” like it was a medical prescription. And that was very intense in the 60s and the 70s.

    So why does trading out saturated fat for vegetables lower your your total cholesterol? And then it was your LDL cholesterol? That’s because plant oils or vegetable oils are more properly known as seed oils, they contain what is it called? They contain Fido sterile… I forget the word, but it actually replaces the cholesterol in your cell wall. Which is not good for the cells because your cell walls need to be stable and fluid . But these plant oils actually replaced cholesterol and that's why they lower it. That’s why it comes out lower in the readings when your doctor measures them. So they're just getting rid of the cholesterol in your body.

    Cholesterol is a complex molecule. It's involved in so many hormonal reactions in your body. They’re the foundation for your many performance including sex hormones. So we're not functioning properly as humans if we're not having adequate cholesterol or not producing enough cholesterol or trying to lower our cholesterol.

    One of the things that I found that was found in clinical trials is that the people who lowered their cholesterol, and these are large clinical trials, the people who lower their cholesterol by lowering their saturated fat and replacing it with vegetable oils, consistently died at higher rates from cancer. So that's clinical trial evidence, really the most rigorous kind of interventional level evidence that we have and it shows that lowering cholesterol causes cancer. There's multiple side effects from giving up natural whole saturated fats.

    Saturated fats are the only fats that existed in cooking or eating before really until the 1900s. We mainly used butter and lard, and then tallow and suet. those were the fat that we cooked and we ate. So really we created the system where we called saturated fat bad and seed oil is good. And the reality as I discovered in the course of my decade of research is that it was just the reverse. That was true. That we have really, really messed up on what are good healthy fats and what are bad fats."
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    Nina Teicholz, 2015
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    In The Big Fat Surprise, investigative journalist Nina Teicholz reveals the unthinkable: that everything we thought we knew about dietary fat is wrong. She documents how the low-fat nutrition advice of the past sixty years has amounted to a vast uncontrolled experiment on the entire population, with disastrous consequences for our health.

    For decades, we have been told that the best possible diet involves cutting back on fat, especially saturated fat, and that if we are not getting healthier or thinner it must be because we are not trying hard enough. But what if the low-fat diet is itself the problem? What if the very foods we’ve been denying ourselves—the creamy cheeses, the sizzling steaks—are themselves the key to reversing the epidemics of obesity, diabetes, and heart disease?

    In this captivating, vibrant, and convincing narrative, based on a nine-year-long investigation, Teicholz shows how the misinformation about saturated fats took hold in the scientific community and the public imagination, and how recent findings have overturned these beliefs. She explains why the Mediterranean Diet is not the healthiest, and how we might be replacing trans fats with something even worse. This startling history demonstrates how nutrition science has gotten it so wrong: how overzealous researchers, through a combination of ego, bias, and premature institutional consensus, have allowed dangerous misrepresentations to become dietary dogma.

    With eye-opening scientific rigor, The Big Fat Surprise upends the conventional wisdom about all fats with the groundbreaking claim that more, not less, dietary fat—including saturated fat—is what leads to better health and wellness. Science shows that we have been needlessly avoiding meat, cheese, whole milk, and eggs for decades and that we can now, guilt-free, welcome these delicious foods back into our lives.
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    Default Re: A major key to a long and healthy life: fasting or a ketogenic diet

    Dietary requirements for ongoing health depend on individual body type according to two ancient systems, Ayurvedic and Chinese Traditional.
    Both make dietary recommendations for each type, and are worthy of consideration, imho.
    See:https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...-diet#the-diet
    Traditional Chinese Medicine (though it was banned by Mao during the "Cultural Revolution") is similar to Ayurvedic.
    See: https://tcmblog.co.uk/5-elements-diet-chinese-medicine/
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    81 year old, Mary Fields shares her 5 years on a carnivore diet.
    Mary Fields: "I had just got out of the hospital. I've been there for AFib (Atrial fibrillation is a type of arrhythmia, or irregular heartbeat, that affects the upper chambers of the heart) and I thought well, I’ve tried everything else. I might as well try this. Which at the time was quite a paradigm shift for me because I had been vegetarian. I had been vegan. I was all about plants. I was all about organic. And I believe that if you ate meat that you could get cancer because it would make your body acidic.

    I was struggling with depression and systemic candida. Some of those things cleared up for me but all this other stuff was still going on after 35 years trying to figure out what was wrong with me. So I decided in desperation to do carnivore. And I was very, very amazed at the results that happened within a matter of three months. And over a period of three months, the eczema totally disappeared. The hypertension disappeared, and no more AFib and the other symptoms. I started having healing in my gut, so it progressed really nicely.

    Now the healing process in some things like my digestion, and other things took a little more time. In other words, everything didn't happen all at once. And I wasn’t really sure if that had to do with my age or if it was just the fact that it was taking my body longer to heal because I had always had many of the symptoms that I was experiencing, I had most of my life."
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    Mary and I talk about the health updates she has experienced in the last year and a half, her spirituality, and her views on health and wellness for older adults. We also delve into what it means to have a purposeful life, and the importance of setting boundaries. Make sure to listen to the full interview to learn more.

    Mary Fields is a dedicated carnivore diet advocate who has experienced significant health improvements by following this regimen. With a background marked by overcoming numerous autoimmune symptoms, Mary has become an inspiration for many seeking natural healing methods. Her journey is deeply intertwined with her spirituality, making her story both unique and compelling.

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    27:05 The importance of inner work in healing
    44:26 How our thoughts and words affect our health
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    Animal Fat Makes Woman Lose Weight with Kelly Hogan (14 yrs. carnivore)
    Kelly Hogan struggled with weight her entire life. At age 25, she suffered from frequent boils and cellulitis, weighed 262 pounds, and was at a loss of what more to do. Her family physician saved her life by telling her to avoid carbs and to eat meat.

    She lost 130 pounds, was able to conceive and deliver three children. Her mission for the past 14 years has been to share the same message that was shared with her by her doctor and to offer hope to those that suffer from inflammation, sugar addiction, obesity, and diet-related illnesses.
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    Dr. Robert Lustig, M.D.
    • Get the insulin down any way you can. More insulin more fat. It’s just that simple.
    • People consume high fructose corn syrup because they eat ultra processed food.The same for corn syrup and sucrose. It's table sugar, maple syrup, agave or honey. There are five caloric sweeteners and all of them have the fructose molecule.
    • 73% of the items in the American grocery store have been spiked with added sugar. It accounts for 58% of the sugar or diet in ultra processed food.
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    My guest is Dr. Robert Lustig, M.D., neuroendocrinologist, professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco (UCSF), and a bestselling author on nutrition and metabolic health. We discuss how to fix insulin resistance, the 3 ways you can become insulin resistant, and nutritional protocols to fix insulin resistance without medications.
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    Default Re: A major key to a long and healthy life: fasting or a ketogenic diet

    Eating FAT To Lose Weight (38 seconds)
    Carnivore really helps people with weight loss.

    How in the world do you lose weight eating all the fat that comes on the meat in a carnivore diet? The truth of the matter is that eating fat does not make you fat.

    We know definitely that the way you get fat is by eating high carbohydrate foods repetitively on a daily basis for months and months and years and years, having chronic hyperglycemia (high blood sugar) and then chronic hyperinsulinemia to control the blood sugar. If your insulin level is too high, too often, for too long then you absolutely are not allowed to burn the stored fat in your adipocytes (the fat cells).
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    Hyperinsulinemia

    Hyperinsulinemia is a condition where the amount of insulin in your blood is higher than normal. Insulin is a hormone produced by the pancreas that regulates blood sugar levels. 

    Hyperinsulinemia is often associated with type 2 diabetes, but it's not diabetes on its own. It can be caused by a number of metabolic conditions and diseases, as well as non-nutritive sugars in the diet. 

    Over time, high insulin levels can lead to:
    • High blood pressure (hypertension)
    • Weight gain
    • High cholesterol
    • Hardening of the arteries (atherosclerosis)
    • Increased risk of heart attack and stroke

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    FAT: A Documentary | Health & Wellness | Weight Loss |


    Ancel Keys was famous for something called ”The Seven Country Study.” This is where he went and study seven different countries and came up with this hypothesis as to how we're supposed to eat based on correlation. Ancel Keys is the one who proposed what he called “The Diet Heart Hypothesis,” and that was that saturated fat and dietary cholesterol would give you a heart attack. Especially saturated fat like hot oil down a cold stove pipe. It would just clog up your arteries and give you a heart attack.

    The problem was he cherry picked these countries that fit what he was trying to hypothesize.He set out to prove that more calories you got the better chance of getting heart disease. It seemed like a straight line between the lease fat consume and the most fat consumed with the US at the top. The only problem was Keys studied 22 country and if you factor in all of those countries, the results are all over the place. He just took the countries that prove that fat causes heart disease. This study made Keys the temporary savior of the medical community and therefore the world. Such that he was able to get onto the American Association Nutrition Committee and he turned the whole association around in one year and got them in 1961 to recommend that all Americans restrict saturated fat and cholesterol in their diet in order to fight heart disease.
    ”Dietary fats and its Relation to Heart Attacks and Strokes, most person in the United States, who are overweight, will find profitable to reduce their total caloric intake reducing the amount of fat in the diet is one way to do this. In addition to the possibility that atherosclerosis will be prevented, obesity will certainly be controlled.”
    This is the first advice anywhere in the world, telling people not eat saturated, fat and cholesterol to fight heart attacks. That’s like the beginning of it all. That is what just blossom, bloomed, grew into the giant oak tree of advice that we have now.

    We have no credible evidence to say that saturated fat causes heart disease, and that sounds crazy to say when you look at our government guidelines and our dietary guidelines, but there is no high-level credible evidence to show that saturated that causes heart disease.


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    The truth is that we have pretty much had everything completely upside-down and backward. FAT traces a detailed history spanning 150 years to show how misinformation and outright lies have become “truth.”

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    Dear Friends, I've found a very rare gem: this most important book by Dr. Richard Mackarness, called Eat Fat And Grow Slim. It was originally published in 1958 (67 years ago!) and Dr. Mackarness was one of the very very first to draw attention to the health benefits of what is now called the Keto Diet.

    https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Dr....row%20Slim.pdf

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Dear Friends, I've found a very rare gem: this most important book by Dr. Richard Mackarness, called Eat Fat And Grow Slim. It was originally published in 1958 (67 years ago!) and Dr. Mackarness was one of the very very first to draw attention to the health benefits of what is now called the Keto Diet.

    https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Dr....row%20Slim.pdf
    Broken link?

    I was able to open your “pop-out” version in Google drive. Though, it didn’t allow me to download, so I emailed the pdf to myself.

    Thanks, Bill.


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    THX
    , and I've edited my post above.
    I have NO clear idea why the link was broken, though I'm suspecting it's connected with how the Avalon software interpreted the %20 code for the spaces.
    The PDF was embedded perfectly, with what I'm sure was the identical URL. But I've now copied that to the original raw link, and that definitely works. Here it is again:

    https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Dr....row%20Slim.pdf

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    I just wanted to point out that following a ketogenic diet isn't likely to work very well for anyone whose gall bladder has been removed or is damaged unless they also take some form of bile supplement like TUDCA -- Tauro-Urso-Deoxy-Cholic Acid -- to help digest the fat. Without the gall bladder to squirt out a bunch of concentrated stored bile following a meal, you only get a slow steady trickle from the liver.
    The only place a perfect right angle ever CAN be, is the mind.

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    Olive Oil Fasting: DOUBLE Autophagy & STOP Insulin Resistance! | Dr. Pradip Jamnadas
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    "🌿 Discover the hidden power of olive oil fasting and how it could reset your body in just 24 hours! In this video, Dr. Pradip Jamnadas explains how combining short-term fasting with extra virgin olive oil may double autophagy, improve insulin sensitivity, protect your cells, and optimize metabolism. Whether you struggle with fatigue, weight gain, or sugar cravings, this approach provides a gentle yet effective way to rejuvenate your body from the inside out."

    I'm going to try this as there seems to be nothing negative about doing so. The worst thing that could happen would be that it didn't work. Although I have more than a few books onautophagy and fasting, there's no definitive proven/scientific list of atual repairs and so effectiveness comes down to how we feel and perform overall rather than pinpointing a particular complaint.

    PS: The instructions for when to take the olive oil and how much start at 17,21
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    Quote Posted by grapevine (here)
    Olive Oil Fasting: DOUBLE Autophagy & STOP Insulin Resistance! | Dr. Pradip Jamnadas
    30.29
    "🌿 Discover the hidden power of olive oil fasting and how it could reset your body in just 24 hours! In this video, Dr. Pradip Jamnadas explains how combining short-term fasting with extra virgin olive oil may double autophagy, improve insulin sensitivity, protect your cells, and optimize metabolism. Whether you struggle with fatigue, weight gain, or sugar cravings, this approach provides a gentle yet effective way to rejuvenate your body from the inside out."

    I'm going to try this as there seems to be nothing negative about doing so. The worst thing that could happen would be that it didn't work. Although I have more than a few books onautophagy and fasting, there's no definitive proven/scientific list of atual repairs and so effectiveness comes down to how we feel and perform overall rather than pinpointing a particular complaint.

    PS: The instructions for when to take the olive oil and how much start at 17,21
    Thanks — that's very very interesting, and I've never heard of that, let alone tried it. (I've saved the video! )

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