Feminism

[noprophet]

Feminism is not something I've ever thought about much or looked into at all, but I found this analysis fascinating.

Yes their are exceptions--always--but we're talking about the majority not the exception.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PqEeCCuFFO8

p.s. As with all hot button issues, not trying to start a fight. I have other things I'm interested in. I just think the perspective is interesting.

p.s.s. Yes, I know, avoid diversionary tactics. Still interesting.

[NancyV]

I'm glad I actually watched this video! I wasn't going to because I thought it might be another boring feminist rant and I detest rabid feminists. But it turned out to be a logical, intelligent and well presented argument pointing out the flaws, inconsistencies and hypocrisies in the usual feminist arguments and beliefs. Many of her views agree with mine.

Women can actually be very dangerous to men's self esteem and feminists have used their considerable female power to try to make men feel guilty by placing women in the role of victims who have been abused by men. I'm glad feminists haven't yet managed to emasculate ALL men although they sure as hell have tried. Thanks, I really enjoyed the video.

[nearing]

Patriarchy isn't a ploy against women, it's a ploy against the Feminine.

We have been living in an very unbalanced Consciousness for thousands of years now. It's time to bring humanity back into balance.

[noprophet]

Posted by nearing (here)
Patriarchy isn't a ploy against women, it's a ploy against the Feminine.

We have been living in an very unbalanced Consciousness for thousands of years now. It's time to bring humanity back into balance.

I agree with you. However let's be sure we actually hit the equality balance point while not over-swinging the scythe. It will do us no good if we simply have a pole-reversal of oppression.

[jackovesk]

To be honest, I have'nt cared too much for Feminists and have never really understood their message...?

One thing I do know, like just about everything else in this world 'Feminism the Movement' was created by the PTW/Elite...

If you don't know Why..? I'll tell you...

The following example is based on (Married Women w/Children and a Partner) who is the chief source of Household income

You DO KNOW how the PTW/Elite want to break down the 'Family Unit' and funding & promoting the 'Feminist Movement' was a prime way to get more women into the workforce and less time with their children...

Remember back in the 50/60s the majority of women who had children had a 'Choice' whether to work or not if their partner was the bread winner.

So the PTW/Elite thought...

Gee, at the moment we are only relatively (Taxing Half the Population)

• So lets get more women into the worforce, so we can collect more Taxes
• Then these women will have less quality time spent with their children, helping (Over Time) break up the 'Family Unit' or constantly putting it under strain $Financially

Well Guess What Ladies..?

It has worked like a charm...

These days...

• Women have to juggle Work/Family at are often 'Time Poor'
• The 'Family Unit' has broken down due to the added $Monetary Pressures and the 'Divorce Rate' has Skyrocketed
• The more time spent just 'Trying to Raise a Family & Survive' is in of itself a major battle for many and impossible (Without Govt. Welfare) for some

Once you accept this as (Fact) you can begin to realise just how much is of your daily is Controlled by the PTW..!!!

[noprophet]

@Jack, about 7:30 into this one. The theory that imposing a matriarch system on the serf class was the way for the ruling class to neutralize threats.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2VupEC0cAWo

[pugwash84]

In my opinion Feminists and Men who believe they are much better than women are both gender divides. Neither is more important than the other both are equally as important. When people divide and not work together they do more damage than good. It's just another distraction to make people argue over something trivial compared to the bigger picture. I do not like feminists and I do not like Males who hate women, I like the humans who love each other no matter what gender or race.

[Rantaak]

All of these tactics of division exist to perpetuate the illusion of duality in a world of unity. Nothing is boolean. We are not male or female. We are not our bodies. We are varying extents of both as well as varying extents of neither. I am a feminist, a masculinist, and a eunuch-ism-ist. The female part of me is experiential knowledge. The male part of me is intellect. The eunuch part of me is unity consciousness. Mother, father, child respectively. Earth, Sun, and Moon. We all have these components within us, though the extent to which we recognize this is what defines us.

Look at the elites, for example. Hillary Clinton. "Would you ask a *man* what kind of clothes he likes to wear?" This is classic *divide and conquer* methodology. I certainly *would* ask a *human* about his or her tastes because as a *person* I love *people*....

[9eagle9]

Maybe it's time for the Tampon/ Condom test.

If a man can walk into a store and buy a box of tampons without flinching we've made progress. If they cannot they have to be carefully queried "Sir, do you think anyone in this store is under the perception that box of tampons is for you, or has anything to do with you?"

Same with woman except that instead of tampons its condoms. For a woman who cannot buy a box of condoms, "Madam, do you think anyone in this store thinks that you will be wearing one of those things?"

Or as my friend said loudly in a store one day, when the clerk hesitated over selecting a box of condoms from behind the counter: Which do you want?

"Oh hey , they aren't for me they are for my boyfriend's penis ."

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Excellent video. It certainly puts a different light on things or objectivity on views normally skewed by a one sided agenda.

She has my vote. I always felt sorry for fememenists because their demenaour came across as a lack of confidense or belief in ones own power. And she gives credence to my favorite line in a movie, as good as it gets. When a man who wrote womens novels was asked how he wrote women so well he answered, " easy, i think of a man and take away reason and accountability " . Funny line and it mad me laugh out loud in the cinema so much it offended my girlfriend at the time.

Interesting thing to note. Why did that line relate to me so well? Why was she so offended by my reaction? Many ways to answer that one.

Excellent thread, thank you :-)

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[CdnSirian]

If I could read from what she's reading from I could list the many vague generalities and assumptions mentioned about women and men in this essay. Unfortunately to respond well, it would take me days, which is free time I do not have.

This is a movement, and subject that has been seriously screwed up.

Too bad it took an obese and gay woman to expose the rape/genocide and resulting snuff films that made billions during the Bosnia conflict. With a limited readership. Who made the bucks from that? How did the male arms dealers profit? Are there any female arms dealers? Maybe, I don't know. Didn't see any men whining about this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Life_of_Words a movie about sex slavery during the Bosnia affair. US soldiers participating. This is the first media attention I've seen on the subject. Just sayin'.

This is such a messed up subject, full of secrets. Honestly a waste of time in the bigger picture now, in this present time, to get pulled into.

Noprophet, no objection to you posting this. I just don't think a discussion can go anywhere. Just my opinion!

[noprophet]

Posted by CdnSirian (here)
Noprophet, no objection to you posting this. I just don't think a discussion can go anywhere. Just my opinion!

I totally understand. I consider these subjects a good thermometer and a decent mirror if that makes sense.

[9eagle9]

Most of the people who push the 'Women will rule or lead the world (and be my mommy)' are usually disenfranchesed men, or....equally disenfranchised women. Seems like there's more dysfuncitonal males leading this meme.

Women who have thier heads where they belong (on their shoulders instead of up arse ) understand that leading and ruling the world typically means the same thing it does when one is mommy--cleaning up the mess, picking up dirty clothes, doing the laundry, while the kids are in the next room making another mess.

Pay is not good either.

Posted by noprophet (here)
@Jack, about 7:30 into this one. The theory that imposing a matriarch system on the serf class was the way for the ruling class to neutralize threats.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2VupEC0cAWo

[norman]

Aubrey Marcus - 495 - Kelsey Kazarian - Returning “Feminine Empowerment” To The TRUE POWER of a Devotional Woman
2 hour 39 minutes - Posted Apr 10, 2025

Show notes
Kelsey Kazarian is something of a black sheep in the feminine reclamation metaverse. But to stick with that metaphor, the reason she is a black sheep is because she remembers the true colors of a sheep. In other words, a lot of pop culture “feminine empowerment” is actually just a masculine imitation in a woman’s body.

So what is the true essence of a woman’s gift?

What energy or actions are extractive, and what energy is generative?

What are the codes of a DEVOTIONAL WOMAN?

What is the strongest relationship possible between the masculine and feminine?

This was a refreshing and beautiful conversation with a special spirit, as magnetic as she is erudite.

[norman]

Helen Andrews - She assesses that the great feminisation is artificial.

She makes several observational points throughout this conversation that left me rewarded for the time I put into finding it and listening to it. I arrived at finding it after watching a bunch of videos about how women are attracted to and negotiate with men in the subconscious zone hidden under the social role-playing levels.

Perhaps that pathway to this video gave me the eureka moment, I sensed but didn't complete as a coherent thought, about how we might naturally and relatively peacefully address the disaster of woke feminisation of the social power balance.

Have Women Ruined The World? Helen Andrews on The Great Feminization
The Unspeakeasy With Meghan Daum - Oct 22, 2025


Writer Helen Andrews joins The Unspeakeasy less than a day after her essay, “The Great Feminization,” lit up the group chats. We talk about what she means by “feminization,” why the 2020 moral fervor looked the way it did, and how workplaces and institutions—from journalism to academia to nonprofits—start to change when women become the majority.

We discuss:

Conflict vs. agreeableness and what happens when workplaces turn “kindergarten.”

HR culture and how hostile-environment law reshaped office life.

Whether “women in STEM” initiatives actually worked.

Innovation, risk tolerance, and why men still want to go to the moon.

The difference between healthy feminization and bureaucratic infantilization.

About Helen: Senior editor at The American Conservative and author of Boomers: The Men and Women Who Promised Freedom and Delivered Disaster. Her new Compact essay is “The Great Feminization.”

If you’re new here: The Unspeakeasy is where smart women (and a few brave men) say the quiet parts out loud. Subscribe, rate, and share—preferably in your most un-agreeable group chat.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=p3UyK_fdqGg

[norman]

A half hour podcast that delivers a far more intelligent list of collective male gripes about collective females than I expected. The presenter, a female, makes it a dense fast moving and engaging listen with a well balanced common-sense neutrality, but I'm male so I might have a bias.

If the topic interests you at all, this half hour is about as well spent as you can do, for a general academic self education class.

40 Brutal Truths Men Wished Women Knew
Kait Ann-Michelle - Nov 10, 2024

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OiLNM5PAxMk

[jaybee]

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Thanks for last two posts Norman....interesting and good to hear the subject touched upon in a straight forward way - I can go with the hypothesis (by Helen Andrews) that 'wokeness' has it's roots in 'feminization' - of institutions - - - where the balance goes in favour of a female majority in control... I wonder if the 'wokeness' is actually a planned part or whether it was a development that then had to be utilized for the broader agenda...?.....because it really gets people's backs up and alienates them a lot of the time - kind of flushing out the covert agenda of total control more than 'they' probably wanted.... ??

Alex Jones made a brief throw away comment the other day that is relevant - that - - (encapsulated) .....

'we DO have a white supremacist problem..... but it's just the small group of old white men who are setting other groups of people against each other so they can maintain their power and wealth...'

The power and ridiculous levels of wealth that this small group of old white men have probably comes through from the 1600s...... and they are (furiously) plotting to keep hold of that power and wealth in different ways....

Women and 'minority' groups (in Western Nations) are used and set against each other - - - I will even speculate that there could be a secret agenda to actually eliminate women - get rid of them (us) - carefully hidden behind the smoke screen of heavy promotion.... to eliminate the power that women have by being able to carry and give birth to children - -

Hence the heavy promotion of gender transition and the whole LGBT etc agenda.... they probably think they can take total control of the whole human reproductive system ....along with everything else..... under the guise of 'helping the earth and sustainability...'

'absolute power corrupts absolutely' comes to mind....

I'm close to rambling now because it's a huge subject..... but basically I think we need to have solidarity with one another - male and female - not be divided and ruled - and to retain compassion and kindness...

[Losus4]

I have long believed that giving women the vote and putting them in position of power are what set about the decline of Western civilisation. Though this might be a conversation many are not ready to have, but wokeness and all its destruction machinations can all be traced back to this one pivotal point in which men began treating woman as his equal, which she is not nor will ever be.

Notice how wokeness does not exist in non-feminised nations like China or Russia. This doesn't suggest a masculine-dominant society is the solution. The goal, as Taoists have taught for millenia, is to have a balance of the masculine and feminine. The West as it is today is massively polarised toward the feminine, 90% to the masculine's 10% you could say, hence the chaos we are witnessing, chaos which is the result of imbalance.

Feminism in and of itself is good providing it doesn't make the mistake of demonising the masculine, which it has done ever since its inception. It's biggest mistake however is feeling the need to constantly invent new 'oppressed' underdogs to campaign for, rather than stepping away gracefully once it accomplished its objectives (getting women in politics). Rather than step away, it looks for new underdogs i.e. ethnic minorities, immigrants, gays, transgenders etc.. If no underdogs exist, feminists will simply invent one in order to justify their existence. With no underdog, they have no reason to exist. Each new invented underdog becomes more deranged and unnatural than the previous.

How much safer our lands would now be had we not listened to their naive and whimsical delusions—



See chapter "The War on Masculinity" in my book linked in sig for more on this subject.

[jaybee]

Posted by Losus4 (here)
I have long believed that giving women the vote and putting them in position of power are what set about the decline of Western civilisation. Though this might be a conversation many are not ready to have, but wokeness and all its destruction machinations can all be traced back to this one pivotal point in which men began treating woman as his equal, which she is not nor will ever be.

Notice how wokeness does not exist in non-feminised nations like China or Russia. This doesn't suggest a masculine-dominant society is the solution. The goal, as Taoists have taught for millenia, is to have a balance of the masculine and feminine. The West as it is today is massively polarised toward the feminine, 90% to the masculine's 10% you could say, hence the chaos we are witnessing, chaos which is the result of imbalance.

[snipped]

I cannot agree with your first paragraph ....but DO agree with the sentence I've bolded in the 2nd paragraph -

Men and women are equal but with different qualities and if we weren't all being socially engineered and gaslit every minute of the day by the 'elite' who seek to retain the biggest share of wealth and power....we might see the complimentary qualities playing out in a better way..... (IMO)

[jaybee]

Posted by jaybee (here)
- - - I will even speculate that there could be a secret agenda to actually eliminate women - get rid of them (us) - carefully hidden behind the smoke screen of heavy promotion.... to eliminate the power that women have by being able to carry and give birth to children - -

Feminists who support the (socially engineered) trans agenda.... don't realise what they are supporting - IMO...

You have to go pretty deep down the Rabbit Hole to even entertain the enormity - the audacity - of the agenda that's being pushed in the West (for starters)......see my comment I quoted above.....

It's probably all tied in to depopulation and restricting population and the massive power grab coming from the 'Ruling Class' ..... mixed in with demonic interference and sexual perversion as well, I expect...

I saw this after writing my post yesterday and it brings it home again what's going on - but I do think it's worse and more sinister than what people think....ie the replacement of natural fertile women with barren feminized men....

Protect the Dolls: Glamour UK names nine trans women among its 2025 Women of the Year honourees

Glamour UK has named nine trans women among its 2025 Women of the Year honourees, spotlighting their contributions to activism, fashion, media and community empowerment.

The cover, featuring Munroe Bergdorf, Ceval Omar, Taira, Munya, Bel Priestley, Maxine Heron, Dani St James, Mya Mehmi and Shon Faye, was unveiled as part of the magazine’s “Protect the Dolls” campaign - a rallying cry for trans visibility and safety in an increasingly hostile climate for LGBTQ+ rights in the UK.

The announcement drew criticism from JK Rowling, who took to social media to express her disapproval. “I grew up in an era when mainstream women’s magazines told girls they needed to be thinner and prettier,” she wrote. “Now mainstream women’s magazines tell girls that men are better women than they are”.

In response, Munroe Bergdorf delivered a powerful speech at the awards ceremony held at 180 House in London, calling for unity, solidarity, and mutual protection. “We find ourselves in a deeply disturbing and uncertain point in history,” she said. “It can no longer be said that we're descending into fascism - fascism is here, and it’s up to all of us to keep each other safe. Protection will always be a two-way street”.

Well we all know what you do with 'dolls'....you play with them.... and maybe this is what the agenda is - to replace natural fertile women with playthings and grow babies in laboratories...the ultimate patriarchal, technological take over.... ??

JK Rowling is doing her best to push back on the trans thing - and good for her....

Feminists should try not to be bamboozled by the gift of power they have been given because IMO all is not as it seems..... not by a long chalk.....