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    Here's more intriguing evidence of ancient -- lost -- stone-cutting technology, this time in Saqsaywaman, Peru. Who, or what, made these astonishing cuts?




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    Hello Star Mariner! The truth is that what you shared is incredible. It is well-known (for those of us who investigate these subjects) that several ruins in the Peru/Bolivia area show high complexity and strangeness, and that they are remnants of more advanced civilizations. I don’t know if we’re talking about Lemuria or Atlantis, or perhaps peoples who preserved the heritage and knowledge of advanced techniques for creating structures. But what you shared, I had never seen anything like it, and it really caught my attention. That perfectly smooth surface on that lava mound is truly very striking. I take the opportunity to share some information about Tiwanaku.

    I’m sharing a PDF from a researcher about Puma Punku. His theories sometimes seem a bit far-fetched to me, but overall I think he does a very good job. Here it is for anyone who wants to read it.

    http://www.human-resonance.org/Gateway_of_the_Puma.pdf

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    Nebra Sky Disc
    At 2 hours 37 minutes into the video. DJ briefly brings up the subject of the Nebra Stone, or "The Nebra Sky Disc".
    There is a lot of context leading up to that point, but it is that which makes the mention of the Disc all the more interesting.
    It appears that DJ is beginning to broach the subject of the solar cycle (in a roundabout, possibly cautious way), which is the center of discussion on the Geomagnetic Reversals and Ice Ages thread.
    (A good place to start there is where more recent solar events including 31/Atlas come into focus on that thread, starting around here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...al#post1690600 )

    Some of that context is provided following, taken from the transcript of DJ's talk.
    (I have put that into a more legible form with corrected spelling.)
    Also see: The Nebra Sky Disk - Ancient Map of the Stars
    https://www.worldhistory.org/article...-of-the-stars/


    Transcript:
    "2:34:11
    Dark Journalist:
    "How does the UFO file interface with the Epstein file?" Serious question. Epstein had so many lives.
    Well, Epstein's very very tied in with the Hot Zone piece, and I have a Hot Zone episode coming out probably after Thanksgiving.
    That is one of the most important of all time.
    That area of the hot zone and the fact that they were using the Atlantis submarine to go down and look at these ruins and that they were there with some of the most advanced scientists and we brought in the whole piece.
    If you watch our documentary, The Craze in the Hot Zone, it's all in there.
    But you'll understand Epstein from a whole different level if you look at his relationship with Marvin Minsky.
    ..And the late Virginia Guiffre (who was a real hero in my opinion) --definitely very, very shady timing on her death.
    But Guiffre did a wonderful thing; she brought forward in her court testimony against Prince Andrew the fact that the Epsteins had her doing all these things to coerce
    Alexandra Cousteau and get some kind of blackmailable material on her.
    Epstein and the Maxwells wanted to blackmail Alexander Cousteay.
    Now, you can see them blackmailing the Clintons or, you know, the numerous political players, but why would they blackmail Alexandra Cousteau?
    There's no other reason except for the fact that Jacques Cousteau, her father, was easily the most knowledgeable about the underwater ruins anywhere in the world dealing with Atlantis.
    So the person that I found was Marvin Minsky's close, close friend was the daughter of Colonel Sanders, Margaret Sanders.
    She was in charge of the largest Atlantis search operation of all and was right there in the middle of the Edgar Casey Foundation.
    Marvin Minsky, Jeffrey Epstein, Atlantis--that's the the real missing nexus crisscross in in the middle of all this and it's totally factual.
    It's easy to back up, you don't have to take anybody's word for it.
    You know, I can show you the documents that connect all these people.
    I have interviews of Minsky talking about his great friendship with Sanders.
    And of course, Margaret Sanders son.
    I talked with him, he was going to come on the show, but he got scared of for some
    reason.
    But he's one of the first people who found the Bimini Wall and a tremendous young
    pilot, but he got spooked after a few conversations that we had.
    He was all set to come on and somebody warned him off.

    Olivia: Jean says the Indian god Shiva is the Destroyer. CERN has a statue of him at their HQ.

    Dark Journalist: Oh, whoa. Yes. Excellent point. Well, um I want to show this before we go and leave you for the evening.
    It is the Nebra stone of course.
    I try to point this out, that I think that these elite groups who are informing the weird hijinks that we're seeing, like the Avi and all the weirdness.
    I think this Nebra Stone, which was found in Germany in the year 1999 is very unusual.
    Also they dated it at 5,000 years old, but it might be a lot older.
    It is the first uh representation of the cosmosn they found up there in northern Germany.
    They don't know anything about the group. They put it together. I believe
    that what we're looking at there is an astrological alignment that's passed down through different groups.
    I think this is an alignment that would lend itself to a type of sky event like
    the thing that we're talking about here.

    The Nebra Stone was found and then the group that found it were hunted down
    and put into prison for trying to sell it.
    They did in fact sell it for millions of dollars.
    Groups wanted this and they also wanted to prosecute the people who had found it.
    It was a very strange deep archaeological wars story.
    The archaeology wars for this I think runs very, very deep and I think the Nebra Stone is going to come into all of these things that we're talking about.
    "

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    Default Re: Ancient Artifacts That Are Still Shrouded in Controversy Today

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Nebra Sky Disc
    At 2 hours 37 minutes into the video. DJ briefly brings up the subject of the Nebra Stone, or "The Nebra Sky Disc".
    There is a lot of context leading up to that point, but it is that which makes the mention of the Disc all the more interesting.
    It appear that DJ is beginning to broach the subject of the solar cycle (in a roundabout, possibly cautious way), which is the center of discussion on the Geomagnetic Reversals and Ice Ages thread.
    (A good place to start there is where more recent solar events including 31/Atlas come into focus on that thread, starting about here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...al#post1690600 )

    Some of that context is provided following, taken from the transcript of DJ's talk.
    (If I have time later, I will put that into a more legible form with corrected spelling.)
    Also see: https://www.worldhistory.org/article...-of-the-stars/

    Transcript:
    "2:34:11
    "How does the UFO file interface with the Epstein file?" Serious question. Epstein had so many lives.
    2:34:18
    Well, Epstein um he's very very tied in with the uh hot zone piece. And I have a
    2:34:27
    Hot Zone episode coming out probably after Thanksgiving that is one of the
    2:34:32
    most important of all time. and um that area of the hot zone and the fact that
    2:34:38
    they were using the Atlantis submarine to go down and look at these ruins and
    2:34:44
    that they were there with some of the most advanced scientists and we brought in the whole piece. If you watch our documentary, The Craze in the Hot Zone,
    2:34:52
    it's all in there, but you'll understand Epstein from a whole different level if
    2:34:57
    you look at his relationship with Marvin Minsky and the fact that, you know, V
    2:35:05
    the late Virginia Duprey, who was a real hero in my opinion, and definitely very
    2:35:12
    very shady timing on her death. Um but Juprey did a wonderful thing. She
    2:35:18
    brought forward in her uh court testimony against Prince Andrew
    2:35:23
    the fact that the Epsteines had had her doing all these things to coersse
    2:35:30
    Alexander Custoau and get some kind of blackmailable material on her. The
    2:35:36
    Epstein and Maxwells wanted to blackmail Alexander Custoau. Now, you can see them
    2:35:42
    blackmailing the Clintons or, you know, the numerous political players, but why
    2:35:48
    would they blackmail Alexandra Custoau? There's no other reason except for the
    2:35:53
    fact that Jacqu Custoau, her father, was easily the most knowledgeable about the
    2:36:02
    underwater ruins anywhere in the world dealing with Atlantis. So that Marvin
    2:36:08
    Minsky piece that got brought in, the person that I found Marvin Minsk's close
    2:36:13
    close friend was the daughter of Colonel Sanders, Margaret Sanders. And she was
    2:36:23
    in charge of the largest Atlantis search operation of all and was right there in
    2:36:31
    the middle of the Edgar Casey Foundation. Marvin Minsky, Jeffrey Epstein, Atlantis.
    2:36:38
    That's the the real missing nexus crisscross in in the middle of all this.
    2:36:44
    And it's totally factual. It's easy to back up. You don't have to take anybody's word for it. You know, I can
    2:36:49
    show you the documents that connect all these people. Like I have interviews of Minsky talking about his great friendship with Sanders. So, you know,
    2:36:58
    and of course Margaret Sanders son, um, I talked with him. He was going to come on the show. he got scared of for some
    2:37:04
    reason. But he's one of the first people who found the biminy wall all the way back there and uh a tremendous young
    2:37:12
    pilot and uh but he got spooked after a few conversations that we had.
    2:37:18
    He was all set to come on and somebody warned him off.
    2:37:24
    Trigams. Mhm. Uh Jean says the Indian god Shiva
    2:37:30
    is he is the destroyer. CERN has a statue of him at their HQ.
    2:37:35
    Oh, whoa. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Excellent point. Well, um I want to show this
    2:37:44
    before we go leave you for the evening. It is the Nebra stone of course. try to
    2:37:51
    point this out that I think that these elite groups who are informing the weird hijinks that we're seeing like the avi
    2:37:58
    and all the weirdness uh I think this neighbor stone which was found in Germany in the year
    2:38:06
    1999 is very unusual also they dated it at
    2:38:12
    5,000 years old it might be a lot older it is the first uh representation of the cosmos
    2:38:20
    they found up there in northern Germany. They don't know anything about the group. They put it together. I believe
    2:38:26
    that what we're looking at there is a astrological alignment that's passed
    2:38:33
    down through different groups. And I think this is an alignment that would lend itself to a type of sky event like
    2:38:40
    the thing that we're talking about here. The neighbor stone was found and then the group that found it were hunted down
    2:38:49
    and put into prison for trying to sell it and they did in fact sell it for millions of dollars.
    2:38:57
    Groups wanted this and they also wanted to prosecute the people who had found it. It was a very strange deep
    2:39:03
    archaeological wars story. The archaeology wars for
    2:39:08
    this I think run very very deep and I think the neighborstone is going to come into all of these things uh that we're
    2:39:16
    talking about. "

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    A curious artifact. https://ancientist.com/secrets-of-th...reconstructed/

    This print article (~2 pages, with 2 pics) reports on a high tech metallurgy study, which backed up analyses with full size experiments to replicate the core metal piece. Conclusion, with high confidence, is that it was initially formed/cast at temp 1200 degrees C, and then was forged 10 times at 700 deg.

    The effort to do all those re-heat and beat cycles tells me that either:

    1. This item was very highly valued, undoubtedly for its symbolic statement. Who would do that? Well, your standard Bronze Age tyrant dictators. Maybe they even used it in ways that required a robust emblem.

    2. This item was created by some Earth-posted aliens’ kids, maybe for a school project or maybe to mess with the local kids who jinxed their steeze. Evidence for this view is, the heavens look like a kid drew them. Most obvs is, the crescent moon has stars inside the disk. Other than that the lit part of the moon points away from the sun, and the “boat” is about a kid’s dream of getting da he*l away from dis asylum planet, likely meant to mean his/her fam’s daily driver.


    In your vid, Natalie, DJ judges Avi Loeb in the starting talk about 3I-Atlas. Says why he thinks Avi is a big asset for a letter agency, names others he figures are agency assets too, including Elisondo. What do you think of that?; do you still have me blocked? Cheers anyways. 👻🐎♥️
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