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    Default Even our Truths are Lies

    So We back ourselves into a corner.  

    Just go back in time, even just recent history demonstrates pivotal events constructed on lies.  No sooner is it done, and the gasps of OMG are exclaimed , we are on to the next thing.
    I recently saw a guy screaming, and rightly so , at GW Bush for a million deaths in Iraq, all fabricated and built on lies of course.  And then with this chapter ends and never solved, it is soon forgotten which by way of its non correction, sets up a new crooked platform for new lies to be built upon.
     
    Perhaps  "sins of the father are sins of the son",  applies?

    So how many steps can we take in this model going backwards?  It would probably never end.  Pearl Harbor Gulf of Tonkin, Uss Liberty and so on.

    If I just wanted to isolate my thoughts and feelings on today and a few years of recent history, I could say that the lies of the Biden admin , especially the border , served well to set up my choice as well as many for DJT and why he became President.  
    Things were so out of reality with them, the "border czar "claiming the border is secure for one, establishes a major lie. And they know it and don't ever really address it. Sorry, but for me it's not arguable and a major cause of what we have now.

    So we are invaded with a group of people who enter the country illegally and now our new admin wants to catch them and get them out. So now, the lie is to no longer call them illegals.Even the term illegal is offensive to people as they swim and drown in the lies of the MSM.

    So at present , why are you arresting these immigrants??? They ask!
    So the problem is created, then lied upon, and sets up a reaction.  And DJT, doing the round up right or wrong , properly or not, is now the bad guy.  This is all bizarre as sane people dont even remember that Ice is carrying out the law.  law that congress created.

    Perhaps if MSM made the case that drunk drivers were being unfairly treated, people would then go, hey yeah,  why are they being harassed? Their just people.
    We it's all fun and game till it lands at their door and then we see the Hypocrisy.

    So this insanity I am seeing is why I will no longer debate a person in politics, and in fact have pulled back from my commenting on many topics.  There's just no point.There is too much untangling of what they know, their believed history and the ball of lies that needs to be done.
     
    And yes, there are degrees of lying.  I tell a gal I like her hair, perhaps a lie , vrs , I tell a gal I didn't sleep with her sister.  a lie.  Now where equal my friends

    So I will take the lies of the Trump admin over the lies of the democrats anytime for now.

    I seek common sense. I always thought people knew what that was.
    Turns out they don't

    comments welcome.
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    Default Re: Even our Truths are Lies

    White hats have repeatedly said misinformation was needed..... you may be right but i am really tired and sick of every single lie. And it is time to talk about what true Love is..... bc true love is truthfull no matter what. We humans deserve to be served the truth and nothing but the truth. MAny so called awakened people say that people aren´t ready for the truth and i say Baal ****. It is time to treat humans as adults and be shown the whole truth and nothing but the truth which is Light or Love. SIck of behind our backs doings.
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    Default Re: Even our Truths are Lies

    thanks betoobig. i just got home and read your comment. it put me in a good frame of mind. i will ponder it and drift off to sleep ty

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    Default Re: Even our Truths are Lies

    Innocent truth sharing in a rigged game, calling ourselves 'all humans', sets up a feast for predators. Dodo birds come to mind.

    The difference between being predated upon and fighting back is 'Just War'.

    Many of us now know we are at war, or else being predated towards extinction. Many carry on as 'Dodo luvies' but they all have a vote, some, though informed, don't care about anybody else but themselves and their closest nest mates, all making the dynamics of the war very tricky and challenging. It causes splits in strategy planning and ideological arguments that neutralise a lot of our potential strength in the fight.


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    . . . .So this insanity I am seeing is why I will no longer debate a person in politics, and in fact have pulled back from my commenting on many topics.  There's just no point. There is too much untangling of what they know, the history and the ball of lies needed to be done. . . . .
     


    My own version of that sentiment is a little different but essentially the same frustration.
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    Default Re: Even our Truths are Lies

    Dough, honestly, it's tough for all of us but people need to get out of their pamper stage and grow up , at some point of our common cultured history and I believe it's bound to happen.

    What you call "the truth and the lie" is a very big Dream. Dream of "New World" , where the pure mind, envisions "new pristine world" , the patriarchal mind simultaneously comes up with "the new world order".

    If I think now what does "America" represent for many generations of people around the globe is a Dream worth All Humanity , so big that one country can not naturally contain it.

    Unfortunately the "great dream" has inevitably turned to trauma ( from German "der Traum" , ) after WW2 and all the way through weaponisation of America in the name of peacekeeping and conflic solving .

    The dream of new world was effectively cancelled in the name of trauma of new world order.


    That kind of situation simply puts everyone on earth on the same boat , after they've equalised global food prices and security protocols,

    it's likely that we are all in the same historical boat that is flooding rapidly , leaking and will sink at some point unless we succeed in reducing "global human trauma" ,
    granting, allowing people of this world to their rights and freedoms including freedom of citizenship .

    Dream bigger I suggest to people. Instead of going to the new world manifest it , all with new options and properties. This is the problem.
    It's err "hilarious", with couple billions talented individuals around the globe who too deserve to be part of the whole. To be free especially by choice and consent, in this Life.

    See the pros and cons , the powerful tide that precedes the overwhelming migration waves ,

    of People alive, wanting to resonate

    with

    YOU.


    How sad we all can't do live in America , China, Russia, Saudi al Arabia, Japan and so forth without cancelling each other's dreams and options.


    India for one is rather happy to get their prodigious sons and daughters back home and find them fitting jobs in research and development,

    so will the other people.

    Why oh why are we now moving backwards though. How much time do "they" think they have left after they put most of their intelligence to shredder .
    About an hour of the Universal Time, in my opinion.


    "They" will be alone with it at the end playing the chess game with red nuke buttons before the chessboard reveals self as Russian roulette , without rules.


    Honestly, I also don't really believe any of it is real. Save for the people who are still alive.

    For G*D is ALIVE .


    Not sure what the Rabbi said but we are not doomed.


    God Save America


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    Default Re: Even our Truths are Lies

    Its Doug not Dough and I don't take kindly to being lectured as it seems in your first sentence

    as for the rest of what you said, I'm not really sure what you mean, but thats ok.

    and yes god is

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