Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

This guy's opinion and also mine 100%

Clandestine
So the Dems spent years trying to spin that Trump was implicated in the Epstein files, but the new emails revealed that Epstein despised/feared Trump, and was directly assisting the Dems to take Trump down.

In other words, Epstein was a Deep State affiliate.

This has always been the case, and anyone who paid even the slightest bit of attention to the Epstein story over the last 20 years knew this to be the case, but the Dems tried to smear Trump with it anyways, hoping they could weaponize the public’s ignorance.

The “hoax” Trump is referring to, is the Dems trying to accuse Trump of being involved in abuse against children. The reality is, Epstein was a billionaire Democrat mega-donor who feared Trump more than anyone, because Trump knew Epstein was a creep all the way back in the early 2000’s when Epstein/Ghislaine poached Virginia Giuffre from Mar-a-Lago when she was 17.

Trump was not Epstein’s buddy. Trump was Epstein’s greatest threat, and Epstein knew it, hence why he and the Dems have been trying to destroy Trump from the moment he came down the escalator.

https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/1990458975129600336

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[ExomatrixTV]

• Marjorie Taylor Greene addresses Epstein files: "The government will not protect the predators":

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nAKufW_Mktw

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene speaks to "CBS Mornings" about the push to release the Epstein files. She was one of four Republicans that joined Democrats to secure a House vote on releasing all of the files and said "the government will not protect the predators." She added she believes President Trump "did nothing wrong." The president, who is mentioned in recently released emails between Epstein and others, has denied any wrongdoing. Each weekday morning, "CBS Mornings" co-hosts Gayle King, Tony Dokoupil and Nate Burleson bring you the latest breaking news, smart conversation and in-depth feature reporting. "CBS Mornings" airs weekdays at 7 a.m. on CBS and stream it at 8 a.m. ET on the CBS News app.

[sdv]

Epstein did exploit many young women for gratification of his desires. Some of these young women were definitely below the legal age of consent. He was increasingly open about this, so people who associated with him knew and looked the other way. At the very least that is complicity.

Please do not fall down the rabbit hole of thinking that Epstein was not guilty of sexually exploiting many young women and that some of them were younger than the legal age of consent.

The only fear that Epstein's former associates can have is that Epstein did have hidden cameras everywhere and that there are tapes of them that would create a huge scandal if they were found and released. If any of the women were legally under the age of consent, they could be embroiled in an expensive court case in which they would have to try to exclude or discredit evidence.

I agree completely that Trump sees the ongoing Epstein saga as a distraction. As a pathological narcissist, he has no empathy nor compassion for victims, past or present, and he demands that he gets all the attention, and it must be positive attention, and he must control and dominate the agenda, and be praised for that. That is the threat for Trump, because there is nothing in any of the Epstein material released that does not confirm what Trump has said about Epstein (any contradictions are not materially relevant in terms of proof of wrongdoing). The close relationship between Trump and Epstein never harmed him in the past and is unlikely to do so now. As many have pointed out, if there was anything in the Epstein files that couid harm Trump, the Biden administration would have used it against him.

But Trump is too much of a narcissist (it really is a pathology with him) to use the Epstein saga for self-reflection. He will never say 'what kind of society are we that we valued money and connections more than protecting young women from harmful and unacceptable exploitation?' By the way, Virginia Guiffrie's father drove her to Epstein's house so that she could get a job as his personal masseuse, and leave her job at Mar a Lago!

For now, I see the Epstein saga being used to attack specific people (even Trump is doing this), and there is no societal self-reflection. It was not only the wealthy elite who were complicit, but all the people who worked for him and with Epstein. You may say that a cleaner or gardener had to be silent for economic reasons, but once again, this is a societal issue.

May I just add that maybe the Biden administration did not use the Epstein materials to go after Trump because too many Democrats were implicated in the material. And there is the Israeli connection and Biden was a staunch Zionist. I think the Biden administration would not have hesitated in using the Epstein material to prosecute Trump even if they did not have a case. Politics is toxic!

[rgray222]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
This guy's opinion and also mine 100%

Clandestine
So the Dems spent years trying to spin that Trump was implicated in the Epstein files, but the new emails revealed that Epstein despised/feared Trump and was directly assisting the Dems to take Trump down.

In other words, Epstein was a Deep State affiliate.

This has always been the case, and anyone who paid even the slightest bit of attention to the Epstein story over the last 20 years knew this to be the case, but the Dems tried to smear Trump with it anyways, hoping they could weaponize the public’s ignorance.

The “hoax” Trump is referring to, is the Dems trying to accuse Trump of being involved in abuse against children. The reality is, Epstein was a billionaire Democrat mega-donor who feared Trump more than anyone, because Trump knew Epstein was a creep all the way back in the early 2000’s when Epstein/Ghislaine poached Virginia Giuffre from Mar-a-Lago when she was 17.

Trump was not Epstein’s buddy. Trump was Epstein’s greatest threat, and Epstein knew it, hence why he and the Dems have been trying to destroy Trump from the moment he came down the escalator.

I couldn't agree more.

The dirty little secret within the Democrat Party is that not only are senior Democrat politicians deeply involved in the Epstein mess, but so are many of their multimillionaire and billionaire donors, including CEOs of Fortune 500 companies and university presidents. This is why the Democrats never released the files for the four years Biden was in office. That said, I would be astonished if they left any hard evidence in these files. I am fairly confident that the incriminating evidence is now ash. At this stage, the only thing these "files" are good for is misdirection.

The never Trumpers that survived through and beyond Tump's first term will tell you that they are just truth seekers, but they are hard-core never Trumpers, and this time around they have added a touch of subtlety. All the pundits who are attempting to use the Epstein files to damage Trump are at the derby and have bet the farm on the horse named 'political agenda'.

There are plenty of real issues to fault Trump on, but the Epstein files aren't one of them.

[ExomatrixTV]

• CNN STUNNED By Epstein Israel Connection:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QYVeyGrmtos

Krystal and Saagar discuss CNN stunned by MTG floating the Epstein Israel connection.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
There are plenty of real issues to fault Trump on, but the Epstein files aren't one of them.

Correct. Although that's just my point of view. Others will hold a different opinion, one no doubt [strongly] coloured by their view of Trump, and that's fine, but what I see, quite clearly, is this: a master move of literally 4D chess.

— For years and years, Trump warns about Epstein and 'big trouble' down the pike for certain political big-hitters [e.g. Clinton]. Trump was talking about Epstein in 2015 before he took office. And Q laid it all out in multiple-hundred posts. Before most people had even heard of Epstein.

— But few listened. Fewer cared. It was a 'right-wing' conspiracy theory. Like pizzagate. Do people remember pizzagate? Put a pin in that. It ain't over!

— Then Trump shuts up about Epstein. Rumours swirl that Trump is in those files. But nothing happens. Biden gets in. Still nothing happens. If Trump was really in those files, then this was the time to release it. To nail Trump to the wall. But nothing happens.

— Instead, Trump gets re-elected. Epstein begins to fade. It's old news, he's dead anyway and no one much cares anymore -- especially on the left.

— So...how to stir up interest in the Epstein affair without making it look like a witch hunt -- a political hit to take down Trump's enemies? Easy. You concoct a ploy that makes it look like their idea.

— So Trump then says Epstein is all a 'big hoax' cooked up by the Democrats (part of that is probably true, the hoax-part being Democrat claims that the files incriminate Trump). They don't. But Trump playing down Epstein only adds fuel to the fire. Democrat ears pick up.

— Elon piles on. Comes out and says, 'hey, guess what, Trump is named in those files.'

— And that's totally part of the plan. They never had a falling out. It was all part of the movie we've been watching for the last six months.

— Of course, the never Trumpers explode at this news. 'Trump's in those files, you say...!?' Right-Wing conspiracy theory becomes front page news. Everybody now wants to see what's in those files, especially the Democrats, and especially the left-wing media because finally, finally, they got him! Trump is toast.

Here's the kicker.

— Trump played them. He used reverse psychology and capitalised on terminal-case TDS as people stamped and seethed over the Epstein files, which they believed would bring him down. They wouldn't have done that had Trump not called it a hoax. They wouldn't have done that had Elon not lit this fuse and tricked them.

— A few emails are then published. 'Look!' people cry. 'Trump is in the emails!' Yet there's nothing whatsoever in there to incriminate Trump. In fact, they quite exonerate him. Epstein despised Trump.

— So Trump now says, 'release them all!'

Congratulations, you've been played.

[jaybee]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

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— Of course, the never Trumpers explode at this news. 'Trump's in those files, you say...!?' Right-Wing conspiracy theory becomes front page news. Everybody now wants to see what's in those files, especially the Democrats, and especially the left-wing media because finally, finally, they got him! Trump is toast.

Here's the kicker.

— Trump played them. He used reverse psychology and capitalised on terminal-case TDS as people stamped and seethed over the Epstein files, which they believed would bring him down. They wouldn't have done that had Trump not called it a hoax. They wouldn't have done that had Elon not lit this fuse and tricked them.

— A few emails are then published. 'Look!' people cry. 'Trump is in the emails!' Yet there's nothing whatsoever in there to incriminate Trump. In fact, they quite exonerate him. Epstein despised Trump.

— So Trump now says, 'release them all!'

Congratulations, you've been played.

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That whole episode when Trump said that the Epstein Files were a hoax and basically told everyone to shut up about them - and key figures did an about turn......was all very strange and didn't feel right and I can go with the 'Trump played them' thing -

the glee that his enemies + detractors (covert and overt) have been enjoying regarding the so~called 'revelations' that prove absolutely nothing, look like being be short lived - at the Butler Rally Trump came within millimetres and a split second from having his brains blown out, like JFK in 1963 .... and that must have made him more determined than ever to outsmart those who want him dead.....and nearly killed him....

[rgray222]

The Epstein fiasco has become about politics. nothing more; it is no longer about justice for the women who were abused, nor is it about putting the guilty in jail. Sadly, it is about Trump haters attempting to harm or destroy Trump, and it is also about Trump trying to sweep the entire miscarriage under the carpet so he can get the country focusing on his accomplishments.

We are going to see some people embarrassed, others will lose their jobs, no one will go to jail, and the country will continue to treat this crime as if it were a political game.

Our politicians and the USA at large should have their focus on doing what is right, not what is politically expedient.


Former Harvard president 'deeply ashamed' after Epstein messages exposed

Larry Summers steps back from public roles after House release of Epstein correspondence

Former Harvard president says he's 'deeply ashamed' of continued communication with disgraced financier

Larry Summers, the former president of Harvard University, has announced that he will step back from public commitments, according to the Ivy League college's student newspaper.

In a statement released Monday to The Harvard Crimson, Summers said it was part of an effort "to rebuild trust and repair relationships with the people closest to me."

The announcement follows the release of seven years’ worth of correspondence between Summers and the disgraced financier Jeffrey E. Epstein by the United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.


Harvard's former president, Larry Summers, is withdrawing from public commitments amid revelations of continued communication with disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein. (Photo by Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)

The documents showed the two men continued to exchange messages as late as July 5, 2019, which was just one day before Epstein’s arrest on new sex-trafficking charges.

In the hundreds of messages released, Summers also appeared to place trust in Epstein and confided to him about his pursuit of a romantic relationship with a woman he described as a mentee.

Among the released messages was one from November 2018 in which Epstein describes himself as Summers’ "wing man," as he continued advising Summers on the relationship for months.


Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein in Cambridge, Massachusetts, on Sept. 8, 2004. Epstein is connected with several prominent people, including politicians, actors and academics. Epstein was convicted of having sex with an underaged woman. (Photo by Rick Friedman/Rick Friedman Photography/Corbis via Getty Images)


"I am deeply ashamed of my actions and recognize the pain they have caused," Summers wrote in his statement to the Crimson.

"I take full responsibility for my misguided decision to continue communicating with Mr. Epstein," he added.

Full story: https://www.foxnews.com/us/larry-sum...correspondence

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
There is no doubt in my mind that all the people screaming for Trump's head will cry foul when the information is released because it simply will not indict Trump.

If this "we have Epstein's lists and videos ... no we don't there is nothing there ... " drama might have one positive consequence:

It has more of the never Trumper's screaming for the evidence to be released. Now those same people will have more difficulty rejecting the evidence, than if Trump had simply had it all released earlier on.

[ExomatrixTV]

• You Won't BELIEVE What Former Harvard Prez Wrote To Epstein:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=D_5dzlewhpM

Emails released between former Harvard President Lawrence H. Summers and Jeffrey Epstein reveal troubling conversations about women.

[ExomatrixTV]

• “I was threatened, intimidated and hacked” EPSTEIN EXPOSED! | Lucia Osborne-Crowley:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=P87DM0xdh6Y

From hacked phones and midnight intimidation attempts in Palm Beach to the string of mysterious deaths connected to the case. From victims fighting to reclaim their stories to a system that still protects the powerful, from the White House to Silicon Valley, this episode is one of the most disturbing and revealing we’ve ever done.

In this explosive new episode of The Tea with Myriam François, investigative journalist and author Lucia Osborne-Crowley pulls back the curtain on the most powerful, and most protected, criminal network of our time.

What emerges is a portrait not just of individual crimes, but of a world meticulously constructed to shield predators and punish victims and truth-tellers. As Lucia reveals, this was a system that spanned governments, billionaires, banks, tech magnates and international elites.

“This was the largest sex trafficking ring in modern history, and almost no one has faced consequences”.

We unpack:

⚠️ Epstein’s death – why the official story doesn’t add up
⚠️ Mysterious “suicides” – the deaths journalists ignored
⚠️ Power protects power – elites staying untouchable
⚠️ Media & myths – victims blamed and silenced
⚠️ Abuse psychology – the manipulation behind it all
⚠️ Maxwell trial – what the courtroom revealed
⚠️ Survivor stories – trauma, resilience, and humanity

As Lucia puts it: “Power protects power. It always has.” And this case isn’t just about Epstein — it’s about the systems built to shield people far more powerful than him.
👉 Subscribe for fearless, independent conversations: @drmyriamfrancois1

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
— Trump played them. He used reverse psychology and capitalised on terminal-case TDS as people stamped and seethed over the Epstein files, which they believed would bring him down. They wouldn't have done that had Trump not called it a hoax. They wouldn't have done that had Elon not lit this fuse and tricked them.

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
It has more of the never Trumper's screaming for the evidence to be released. Now those same people will have more difficulty rejecting the evidence, than if Trump had simply had it all released earlier on.

Mark (Star Mariner) beat me to that observation ... well said, Mark.

[thepainterdoug]

my little add on/ Isn't it amazing This Great Country of ours is tearing itself up from within over what?? Ill tell you what , MONEY . It's allll about Money , and the filthy democrats have lost a bundle, and they want back in on the take. So they flim flam and flop around going from issue to issue, crisis to crisis, performance to performance by their cast of fool clown characters while never ever offering anything of policy or being held responsible for anything other than HATING TRUMP. Hating trump is what they have to offer.
and thats coming from a life long Democrat

[ExomatrixTV]

• Trump’s EPIC Flip-Flop On Epstein Files Is Huge Win For Thomas Massie!:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3kygYDcTpAs

Donald Trump has finally thrown in the towel and caved on releasing the Epstein files after realizing that up to 100 House Republicans planned to reject the President’s directive and vote for the disclosure. Trump’s incredible about-face — from calling the issue a “Democratic hoax” one day to urging Republicans to vote for release the next — shows just how much his influence over the MAGA coalition has weakened. Jimmy claims this episode reveals a broader collapse of Trump’s control as lawmakers, donors, and influencers increasingly resist him over issues from foreign policy to worker visas. This Epstein-file vote provides yet more evidence that Trump’s political power has fractured and that his base is now holding him accountable rather than following him.

[bojancan]

"You knew... I was a snake when you took me in"... everyone have their own understanding of that Trump's words...

Nov, 18
MeidasTouch
5.57M subscribers
MAGA Mike IN UTTER TERROR as Epstein VOTE PASSES

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=X-9eFs33PaI

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Republican Speaker MAGA Mike losing it as the vote to the release the Epstein files passes the House 427-1!!!

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
It's allll about Money

That's why I've long thought that I will know whether we've won the current world war between good and evil by whether the debt-money issued by central banks monetary systems such as we have now are ended.

The ultimate power, in the material and power centric world we live in, is the power to issue money in return for debt.

This power is used to enslave the common people in debt, confiscate all their property (personal, corporate and public) that was (or is even claimed to be, in corrupt courts) collateral at the whim of the overlords, by foreclosing on any such debt, and enrich and empower the selected wealthy Kings, Popes, CEO's, Presidents and Famous, with money created against "debt" that need not be repaid.

Debt-money based monetary systems - one ring to rule them all.

It might take the solar micro-nova forecast by such as Ben Davidson to end it, for the time being, on this planet, however.

[bojancan]

Ja.. it is obvious that about Epstein Saga...all is revolved around money... big money and power... I just bumped hours ago in this video... good analyzes from both of them, Ian and Julian!

Today, MBS is in US in WH again... here I am placing one of the comments, in bellow video:
"During all the gunfire in Vegas you can hear a belt fed machine and small arms and rifle for all happen at the same time. I never noticed it until I started to research this. MBS is on video getting taken out of the casino with his security. there are tac guys on several videos running on roofs and changing in bushes. there were 100's of men with guns calls reported in 6 different hotels that night."

Nov, 18
Julian Dorey Daily
179K subscribers
The Vegas Shooting Tie No One Talks About | Ian Carroll

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=28I77s9tBjM

Researcher Ian Carroll breaks down the deep, hidden connections between Jeffrey Epstein, Mossad, and the Las Vegas shooting.

[bojancan]

Candace... she is sooo good... I also wondered that too... why we see literally, that no one was running back there at all.... you would think some people would be trying to get to their cars... all is so suspicious....

Streamed live 2 hours ago

The Great Exodus From Utah? Where Did The "Egyptians" Go On 9/10? | Candace Ep 267

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=581dILVcEE4

Rob McCoy, "America's Pastor", goes to Israel to honor Charlie, Charlie's security chief sits down with Shawn Ryan, and Zionists are deeply upset that we revealed the license plate numbers associated with the “Egyptian” frequent fliers. Why do you think that is?

00:00 - Start.
01:09 - More details on the missing "Egyptians".
23:51 - Charlie's head of security discusses lack of security on roof and drones.
31:52 - Turning Point's Blake Neff drops his receipt.
38:08 - Rob McCoy discusses Tucker Carlson and me while in Israel.
45:43 - Comments.


Sorry, I wrongly post this video in this thread! Sorry!

[Jaak]

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
The Epstein fiasco has become about politics. nothing more; it is no longer about justice for the women who were abused, nor is it about putting the guilty in jail. Sadly, it is about Trump haters attempting to harm or destroy Trump, and it is also about Trump trying to sweep the entire miscarriage under the carpet so he can get the country focusing on his accomplishments.

We are going to see some people embarrassed, others will lose their jobs, no one will go to jail, and the country will continue to treat this crime as if it were a political game.

Our politicians and the USA at large should have their focus on doing what is right, not what is politically expedient.


Former Harvard president 'deeply ashamed' after Epstein messages exposed

Larry Summers steps back from public roles after House release of Epstein correspondence

Former Harvard president says he's 'deeply ashamed' of continued communication with disgraced financier

Larry Summers, the former president of Harvard University, has announced that he will step back from public commitments, according to the Ivy League college's student newspaper.

In a statement released Monday to The Harvard Crimson, Summers said it was part of an effort "to rebuild trust and repair relationships with the people closest to me."

The announcement follows the release of seven years’ worth of correspondence between Summers and the disgraced financier Jeffrey E. Epstein by the United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.


Harvard's former president, Larry Summers, is withdrawing from public commitments amid revelations of continued communication with disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein. (Photo by Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)

The documents showed the two men continued to exchange messages as late as July 5, 2019, which was just one day before Epstein’s arrest on new sex-trafficking charges.

In the hundreds of messages released, Summers also appeared to place trust in Epstein and confided to him about his pursuit of a romantic relationship with a woman he described as a mentee.

Among the released messages was one from November 2018 in which Epstein describes himself as Summers’ "wing man," as he continued advising Summers on the relationship for months.


Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein in Cambridge, Massachusetts, on Sept. 8, 2004. Epstein is connected with several prominent people, including politicians, actors and academics. Epstein was convicted of having sex with an underaged woman. (Photo by Rick Friedman/Rick Friedman Photography/Corbis via Getty Images)


"I am deeply ashamed of my actions and recognize the pain they have caused," Summers wrote in his statement to the Crimson.

"I take full responsibility for my misguided decision to continue communicating with Mr. Epstein," he added.

Full story: https://www.foxnews.com/us/larry-sum...correspondence

When every Democrat and Republican (except 1) voted to release the Epstein files is really a sign the that fix is in and they all know one of two things, A; Nothing damaging to them will be released. B; Nothing damaging to them will be released.

The sacrificed pawns like Summers are already being named and exposed for the distraction psyops to take root. Summers and others will be used to direct the narrative once again in another direction, away from the bigger fish and demonic globalists that are involved at the deepest levels.

Regardless, it'll all just be another big nothing burger again because Trumps name is not at the top of the list.

It's always about Epstein and Trump being front and center about this while Ghislaine Maxwell constantly slips through the cracks, is hidden and silenced in the shadows.

With all these numerous distraction psyops going on like this one, it sure seems like "they" are trying to hide something much more gigantic and more serious.