The Do-Gooder Disorder: Kohlberg's Six Stages Reveal Government Resistance

[Squareinthecircle]

Perhaps the primary framework referred to when a government chooses it's domestic enemies.

"I remember a study in which, on something like a country road, and in turns, a rubber snake was placed in the road followed by a rubber tortoise actually. Folks by and large ran over the snake, with one even backing up, placing his rear tire on its head and peeling out. In every instance, drivers avoided the tortoise.

We recognize morality—its existence, its irreplaceable nature. We make assumptions about it, usually without realizing it. Most of us agree on its importance, and few question its value.

More morality is better… right? Apparently opinions vary..."

https://kevinboykin.substack.com/p/t...orals?r=2ld5cy

[Johan (Keyholder)]

Earlier this year I came upon Kohlberg's six stages of moral development after reading a few books by moral philosoper Todd May.
For those that are interested in moral philosophy, Todd May is a good source.

I did not know this substack, but I can recommend it.

Another interesting subject is TET. There is a wordpress site (mentioned on this forum too):

https://kasspert.wordpress.com/2025/...py-paste-past/

The "Conclusion" is a very interesting one and càn posssibly explain the Mandela effect:

Conclusion
Temporal Editing Theory reframes time as editable code. The Mandela Effect is not mass delusion — it’s a log file, a debug message, or maybe even a warning that your reality has been tampered with.
And for those who remember the “wrong” thing?
You may not be wrong at all.
You may simply be awake.

[Johan (Keyholder)]

Do-gooder Disorder is NOT about the one that "does good", but about those that perceive him/her as such.
I had to look it up, I wasn't clear about this either.

Related is Do-gooder derogation

"... (from Wikipedia) is a phenomenon where a person's morally motivated behavior leads to them being perceived negatively by others. The term "do-gooder" refers to a person who deviates from the majority in terms of behavior, because of their morality."

Also related is the White Knight Syndrome (there is a good book about this:
The White Knight Syndrome: Rescuing Yourself from Your Need to Rescue Others
by Mary C Lamia (Author), Marilyn J Krieger (Author)

[rgray222]

I get it, but sometimes I think making a very simple act complicated is the crime itself. My takeaway from the turtle and snake example is how easily most of society can be duped. Lemming off the cliff syndrome. The snake is equally valuable to our planet as the turtle, and depending on the circumstance, saving the snake can be far more productive. I mean this literally and figuratively.

[Squareinthecircle]

Yes it's a pejorative, meant as the view of the PTB. Thanks for the appreciation btw.

[Sofia279]

In most cases, a snake is considered dangerous and a turtle is not, so they immediately conclude that
But unfortunately, people are more cruel.
If you want something quick and fun to take your mind off things, you can try this plinko
.

[Squareinthecircle]

Posted by Sofia279 (here)
In most cases, a snake is considered dangerous and a turtle is not, so they immediately conclude that
But unfortunately, people are more cruel.

"If you kill a cockroach you are a hero. If you kill a butterfly you are a villain. Morals have aesthetic criteria." It's a quote often misattributed to Nietzsche because it puts his teachings in terms we can understand. Montaigne, Schopenhauer echoed the ideas. We make snap judgements that self preservation has encoded in us like aversion to snakes, spiders etc. Those can make sense, but Kohlberg noted human deviation from the animal kingdom and laid out a quantified and tiered understanding of the phenomenon of morality in humans. Naturally this was seized upon and misused, though it was used before he released his paper under lesser understood terms.

[Sofia279]

That’s an exciting way to put it. I agree — a lot of our reactions come from instinct, but then we build whole moral systems on top of those instincts and sometimes twist them to fit whatever feels convenient. It’s strange how something as simple as “this creature looks scary” can turn into a whole cultural attitude. And at the same time, we justify things that are much more harmful just because they’re familiar or comfortable. It really shows how inconsistent human morality can be when emotions and survival instincts mix.