Trump is NOT the answer

[bojancan]

Candace Goes SCORCHED EARTH On Trump!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=USZsKTwOEf4

Popular podcaster and political commentator Candace Owens has recently ramped up her criticism of Donald Trump, noting that “MAGA got fractured” when Trump instructed his followers to stop asking questions about Jeffrey Epstein. Jimmy agrees with Owens’ sentiment, arguing that Trump has betrayed his populist base by funding wars, expanding deficits, and serving establishment interests, including those of Israel and the military-industrial complex.

Jimmy and Americans’ Comedian Kurt Metzger also critique Trump’s continued loyalty to political elites over his supporters and mocks those who defend him uncritically. Jimmy closes by commending Owens for standing by her convictions and reminds viewers that politicians work for the people, not the other way around.

[bojancan]

Krystal and Saagar discuss Trump's ballroom enraging Americans.

Nov, 10
Breaking Points
1.66M subscribers
Trump Ballroom Makes Americans LOSE IT

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bkbRtHYBp_U

[peace]

this used to be a cool place to hide from the mainstream and talk weird about ufo's.

it's now burdened by folks that want the attention of a president they will never see or meet - who does not care about them at all.

(if you ever see this Bill, you helped change my thinking in the coolest ways - when it was very important for me to change my thinking.)

Camelot and Avalon are great. just not doing this anymore.

i quit 1000 times, but this one is for good.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by peace (here)
this used to be a cool place to hide from the mainstream and talk weird about ufo's.

it's now burdened by folks that want the attention of a president they will never see or meet - who does not care about them at all.

(if you ever see this Bill, you helped change my thinking in the coolest ways - when it was very important for me to change my thinking.)

Camelot and Avalon are great. just not doing this anymore.

i quit 1000 times, but this one is for good.

Dear peace, I did read this — as you can see!

If I may, I'd gently like to point out that many Avalon members, self included, have changed their view of Trump since he came into office. I've referred to this several times, and so have quite a few others, but because there are so many threads on which comments about Trump, US politics, and current events are posted, the mods all understand that it's VERY easy to miss some of the strong and clear views that members express.

My personal summary of the problem:

Trump is clearly a hostage of AIPAC and the Washington neocons, he's an ego-driven fool and a hypocrite in a whole long list of ways, he doesn't read anything at all, he has only a superficial understanding of most (if not all) global events and situations, and unless he has an extraordinary epiphany and change of direction he's going to (a) drive the US further into terminal decline and (b) start several further major wars. The very idea that he somehow deserves the Nobel Peace Prize is like something from Monty Python.

To his credit, he's done one or two things that he promised. But absolutely none of the rest.

The BIG problem, as everyone reading this will know, is that the democratic system doesn't work at all any more (certainly not in the US/Canada, Australia/NZ, or everywhere in the UK/EU), and nobody voting for anyone or anything at all is going to make any difference — until the entire 'west' collapses politically and economically, which I fear it is sure to do.

Do see these two threads:

• Democracy: Stick a fork in it, it's done
• The "Right-Left" dichotomy: false, simplistic, & manipulative.

Edit to add:

I'm listening right now to this Duran livestream with Robert Barnes. It's quite something. Barnes, who has always been as pro-Trump as anyone in the US, is methodically and mercilessly taking Trump apart.

[SilentFeathers]

This thread is a perfect thread to explore and study "Trump Derangement Syndrome".

How in the hell can some people choose to hate Trump more than to love members of their own family? To prioritize expressing their hatred of this man that they've never even met or personally know?

The power of the media and propaganda is amazing (and it works well).

Trump is just a man that through massive propaganda has become the biggest distraction in history.

In my opinion, there is no coming back from this; the psychological warfare over the last decade has done so much damage that it is almost completely irreversible.

[bojancan]

Imagine you're a MAGA supporter who lost a kid in the war on terror... and now Trump is blowing this guy in the White House... today’s terrorist is tomorrows dictator... and next week’s toppled despot... all on Washington’s whim... this crazy Trump... want to kill Maduro, who was not on killing spree after US soldiers... Clown Trump!
I was never respecting him as a human being nor president either... I do not hate him... but, I knew about his criminal behaviour for decades... this is not TDS... it is says Truth...



Nov, 11
Breaking Points
1.66M subscribers
Trump RED Carpet For Al Qaeda Syria Leader

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lNkjTB48ong

Krystal and Saagar discuss Trump meeting with the new Syrian President.

[bojancan]

"Unconstitutional grab of power from Trump" says prof. Sachs... good talk!

Prof. Jeffrey Sachs : Trump and Tariffs/Trump and War.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ogRcUAU0j4o

[bojancan]

Pathological liar and the biggest grifter in history in US... Trump & Co.... I can not believe in his one topic anymore! Criminal at large!!!
Happy Thanksgiving in US... self-serving MAGA president! Let he live a long life... let him....

Trump Caught GASLIGHTING Americans About Rising Food Prices!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9FAnmAoyqdg

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
If I may, I'd gently like to point out that many Avalon members, self included, have changed their view of Trump since he came into office.

As I sometimes prefer, I travel a road less traveled.

What world leaders and major public spokesmen say doesn't matter much to me, at least not in the apparent meaning of their words or announced public acts.

We're in a major world war, between the globalists and the nationalists. Can each group of people of common heritage within (when they're fortunate) national political boundaries thrive, or will the globalists complete their project to bring us all under their (deeply covert, anti-human) rule?

When many people have begun to have second thoughts about the dominant health/medical institutions, often as a result of the disastrous consequences of the C***d jabs, that's a success in my book. The medical establishment has become quite dominant and unquestioned. It's business is profit, and it profits from our disease. It has been established to weaken the bodies (and wallets) of the people of this planet. With, for example, the successful acquisition of the major American medical universities, research, hospitals, insurance plans and doctors by the Rockefellers a century ago, the globalists have obtained near monopoly control. Thanks in part to Trump's Operation WarpSpeed, that monopoly is now deeply threatened. States are beginning to withdraw mandates to vaccinate children. If Trump helped the populace begin to reconsider their trust of the "Standard of Care" main stream medical estblishment, that is a huge win. That Trump helped this happen by taking the "wrong" (in the view of many of us) side matters little to me. I don't take my medical advice from him. I care that our current medical system is replaced, with a better understanding by, and availability of choices to, the people on this planet.

That the only person to refuse to kowtow to Israel in a major debate of New York City Mayor candidates (the largest Jewish city outside of Israel) won that election is a huge win in my view. One of the likely (as being exposed by Candace Owens) powers behind the Charlie Kirk assassination was Israeli-Zionists, but this likely wasn't visible yet to many residents of New York City when they voted for Mayor. I consider Israel, as currently established and led, to be a major operation, over the last century and more, by the globalists, to generate war and conflict in the Middle East. It would have not have been possible before now to compete in that Mayor's race, much less win, without bowing to Israel. To the extent that there is backlash against Zohran Mamdani's pro-Muslim positions over his term, and the further economic harm to New York City, then that could also be a defeat for the globalists. America is fundamentally a Christian nation in its public policy, not a Muslim nation. Let each nation with a clear cultural majority and heritage reflect that choice, and may the British Imperialist drawn borders of division be redrawn to reflect the geographic dominance and preferences of various such groups of people.

The world's financial/monetary/economic structure has been managed and constructed by the globalists, for centuries. That structure is now under severe distress, as might be expected of any debt-money, central bank controlled, system after 80 or 100 years of dominance in its current form. Trump is playing a major role in collapsing this system, and encouraging its possible replacement not by an even more centrally managed system, but by a system that respects the economics of nations.

Sometimes Trump "wins" in this war by taking the side of the globalists whom I hope lose. If that leads to the globalists failing, even if it also leads to criticisms from right-wing, freedom loving, nationalists (such as myself), that's fine by me.

I care little what Trump says. I care that the people get a clue and begin to throw off the globalist propaganda blanket.

As I might have noted elsewhere here a week or two ago, this is a high stakes poker game, for the future of humanity. It is not the job of a major player at this poker table to let the audience know what cards he holds, what he intends to do, or what hands he thinks others hold. I don't even care if he plays his hand well or knows the game of poker well, by any conventional standard of poker. I care that humanity wins.

This world-war is far from complete. But I remain deeply optimistic. If Trump's flip-flopping statements and sometimes notoriously wrong positions contribute to humanity winning, that's fine by me.

We the people have hardly yet realized the economic/monetary/financial depth of this war and of the changes that will result after the current system collapses. I remain optimistic that humanity, an association of diverse cultures and heritages and (give or take some British Imperialist drawn political border lines on world maps, intended to divide people and drive them into conflict) nations, will win.

If Trump's war mongering against Nicolás Maduro in Venezuela results in weakening a globalist Dominated election corruption operation, that will be another huge and essential win. Recent elections over the last decade or two in perhaps half the nations on the planet have been controlled less by the natural, informed, choice of that nation's people, and more by means corrupt public media and election apparatus of Dominion, et al, software first developed in Venezuela to insure the re-election of Maduro's predecessor, Hugo Chávez. That election system must be removed, erradicated, by whatever Corporate name underwhich it is provided.

Many people die in world-wars. That's an inevitable consequence of operating in a world power structure where a key player is inherently genocidal. Many lies are told in world-wars, by more or less all major political leaders. That's an inevitable consequence of wars involving chronic liars, leading nations of people who have been misguided and stunted in their understanding, for many generations. May the genocidal liars lose this war ... total defeat.

[bojancan]

Agree with Anna... we all know who trained ALKAIDA... this Jalani is a US/UK creation... no good ever comes of western interference in that region... because the intent is to destroy everything on behalf of Israel.... and Trump... welcome him in WH! Disgusting!

Nov, 11
Trump Welcomes Al-Qaeda Terrorist To THE WHITE HOUSE

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UgJrSjkPqxs

President Trump held a meeting with former Al Qaeda terrorist and Syrian President Ahmad al-Sharaa at the White House. Ana Kasparian discusses on The Young Turks.


0:00 Trump cozies up to Al Sharaa
1:45 Who is Ahmed Al-Sharaa?
6:40 Trump says Al-Sharaa had a "rough past"
8:45 Al-Sharaa's visit with Congresspeople
9:30 Official explains real reason we're cozying up to former terrorist
17:45 Al-Sharaa's softball interview on Fox
19:30 Israel & US turn to Gaza militias

[sdv]

What I find disgusting about Jalani being hosted at the White House is the blatant and cynical hypocrisy. Unfortunately, it is creating major cognitive dissonance among populations. The tactic has always been to use the terrorism scare to justify and get support for extreme violence against groups and countries and then to colonize the resources of an area. Labelling anyone a terrorist and thus refusing to engage with them other than through violence is not useful. Labelling Hamas as a terrorist group that must be disarmed and refusing to meet directly with the leadership is not helpful. Hosting the genocidal Netanyahu repeatedly is also not helpful. Jalani grabbed power through violent means and is not planning a free and open election. Nelson Mandela was still labelled a terrorist even after he became president through a fair and fair election and had the previous apartheid president in his cabinet as vice president and a constitution as the guiding law for the new administration.

Trump presents Americans with an opportunity to face the cognitive dissonance and find a way out of the dilemma that would be transformative. For a start, perhaps consider being disgusted at the hypocrisy rather than Jalani. Sometimes a president/government has to hold its nose and talk to some despicable people. How and where and why should that happen? A banquet at Buckingham Palace or grand reception at the White House? And Americans have a right to gather in large groups outside the White House and protest, freely, even though their objections may be misguided or are based on programmed thinking. But it would be useful to also think about what the guiding principles should be for government, without labelling anyone a terrorist.

As much as I dislike and have contempt for Trump, I assume he hosted Jalani at the White House because Syria is considered an important economic and military ally for Greater Israel so there were a lot of important agreements to be made and Trump wanted to persuade Jalani to pick America/Israel and not Russia. Note that Jalani had visited Moscow because Russia has military bases in Syria (navy and airforce) and Syria is right in its backyard. My personal view is that once you abandon principles for a goal such as global dominance and support for Greater Israel, you have to brainwash your population, but then you inevitably create cognitive dissonance ... so distract everyone with consumerism, lots of noise on social media, and so on.

[bojancan]

Always I was on a side... that the whole truth will come out and it will be evidently confirmed... Trump was a bad human being and abuser of young girls... as his long years friend Epstein and Ghislaine... also late Ivana was compromised as Melania with their behaviours in Epstein Saga...

I was reading, as I said previously in this thread, few decades ago about this circle of people were IN together.. abusers and rapers of young girls and who they were...
Epstein's other political involvements and secrets deals... that is another matter...
I just want a justice for thousand of young girls... some of them are not alive anymore...

BOMBSHELL: TRUMP EXPOSED IN SHOCKING EPSTEIN EMAILS

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hCvNT-9Pov8

[bojancan]

No need to say anymore... Donald is disgusting human being and as a man.... I always knew that moment of reckoning for him will come ... for sure...

Nov 12
MONOLOGUE: Most of us have never cut people's heads off

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6OCHTTcebQw

Isis and Al Qaeda top dog red carpeted in the White House (sanitary arrangements observed). Israel's best-ever lap dog in the Oval Office. Draining the swamp? Trump is up to his neck in it and diving deeper

[bojancan]

Nov, 16
The Daily Beast
462K subscribers
Why Seeing Epstein and My Uncle Donald Haunts Me | The Daily Beast Podcast

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=anLE28i2wr4

Mary Trump joins Joanna Coles to pull back the curtain on the Trump family and the man at its center. She recounts a childhood spent seeing her uncle everywhere, the opulent parties that doubled as power plays, and the lessons learned about a man who thrived on attention and control.

Mary dissects Donald’s core pathologies—from his craving for wealth and status to the public slips and impulsive behaviors that now define him. She warns that the real danger isn’t just Trump himself, but the enablers who prop him up and profit from his rise. From her perspective as a clinical psychologist and family insider, Mary asks: when the myth collapses, what happens to those left in its wake?

[bojancan]

Disgusting behaviour... he is defending his crap...

Nov, 18
MeidasTouch
5.57M subscribers
Trump BLOWS UP IN OVAL at Press Event with SAUDI PRINCE

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AU8N5z6R7HQ

[bojancan]

Alex is kidding himself... stepped of of Trump now???? Alex is not even funny anymore... the hilarity is gone ..
Interesting video by Kyle... the Alex impression is hilarious.. and on point ... I agree with him 100%... and I never ever trusted this Donald too... never...
In this thread I like to make fun of boss...

Nov, 24
Secular Talk
2.07M subscribers
ALEX JONES SAYS HE’S TURNING ON TRUMP | The Kyle Kulinski Show

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bhsnG4j4gKU

[bojancan]

Ja... we know Melania very well... she does not like a Christmas... family Knavs were communists in Slovenia...

Nov, 24
Really American
877K subscribers
Melania Trump BRUTALLY ROASTED After Christmas Tree Stunt BACKFIRES

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BR5KLjwv-kw

Really American Host Kenny Hesse breaks down Melania Trump's White House Christmas Tree Stunt BLOWING UP in her face after resurfaced SECRET TAPES of her complaining about decorating for Christmas went viral.

The internet was quick to troll and roast the First Lady, with some pretty brutal memes! Happy Holidays, Am I Right?

[bojancan]

Donald Trump now...

Nov, 26
The Daily Beast
483K subscribers

Why Trump Aide Is Thinking 25th Amendment: Wolff | Inside Trump's Head

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HGUd08NPosY

Michael Wolff joins Joanna Coles to reveal how an uncanny Trump press conference with Mamdani became the lens through which the president’s most disorienting week came into focus. Wolff walks Joanna through why Trump’s sudden, deferential “my son” routine—and the blank, searching look in his eyes—sent aides into whispered 25th-Amendment territory.
Together they trace how that moment collided with a White House already rattled by unexplained mood swings, legal chaos, and the latest Epstein-file tremors reverberating through Trumpworld. The result is a portrait of a president losing the script just as the world, and his party, is demanding he stick to it.

[Johnnycomelately]

An American Thanksgiving turkey dinnerish vid for bojancan. Happy is often good.

L = 34:58 I don’t agree with his politics, but I like his humour and his presentation.

Mamdani Makes Trump Melt

Josh Johnson

2.16M subscribers

Nov 25, 2025

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Pxi1p4tzU_Q

[AutumnW]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
This thread is a perfect thread to explore and study "Trump Derangement Syndrome".

How in the hell can some people choose to hate Trump more than to love members of their own family? To prioritize expressing their hatred of this man that they've never even met or personally know?

The power of the media and propaganda is amazing (and it works well).

Trump is just a man that through massive propaganda has become the biggest distraction in history.

In my opinion, there is no coming back from this; the psychological warfare over the last decade has done so much damage that it is almost completely irreversible.

That doesn't work as propaganda. TDS is a meme devoid of proper analytical reasoning.