The film The Age of Disclosure

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by onawah (here)
If ETs want us to have their technology, why not just land the crafts instead of causing them to crash?

They do though. Some of these incidents do involve 'landed craft', fresh and in perfect condition, simply sitting on the desert sand, and without any occupants inside. All that's missing is a big red ribbon tied around the middle and a gift card saying, 'To the earthlings, with love, ET xxx.'

A little facetious, but you get my point.

With many others, of course, there are occupants inside, almost invariably Grey-type beings, usually dead. There are many of these retrievals documented -- see 'UFO Crash Retrievals by Leonard Springfield' (if you can get your hands on it -- it can be hard to find and isn't cheap!).

I hypothesise that, in at least some cases, these craft are indeed gifted to us (them, the military) -- or are meant to be tests, carrying whatever purpose/criteria. It could also be speculated that some UFOs that come down in remote areas are 'brought down', as in shot down. Maybe not so much today, but quite probably in the 50s and 60s. This happened in remote areas because remote areas are where test ranges were located, energy installations, nuclear weapon stockpiles, and various other secret military installations. That's probably why these craft were in these areas in the first place.

Posted by Rawhide68 (here)
We are the ants, they are ones who dont talk to ants, neither step on ants

Ants can't track us, and they can't shoot us down. Ants can't take our technology and construct their own versions of that technology. Ants are not a threat to the continuation of this planet -- or other planets. We are not ants. In their eyes or anyone's eyes. You're selling humanity too short. A million million miles too short.

[ExomatrixTV]

• Eyes On The Skies: Bret Baier Takes A Deeper Look At Unexplained Encounters In Space:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XCHNf8cFm0Y

Fox News chief political anchor Bret Baier examines the trail of UAP research over decades and the alleged information past U.S. Presidents have been briefed on regarding so-called 'unexplained encounters' on ‘Special Report.’

[Irminsül]

I finished watching the documentary, and I want to share the final points that caught my attention:

• They talk about the danger of Russia or China using technologies obtained through reverse engineering from crashed UFOs—as if that were something terrible. I did some research, and in the last 80 years the U.S. has initiated or intervened in more than 200 wars, while Russia and China did so around 40 and 33 times respectively. It’s more than clear, then, which country is fully dedicated to the war industry.
  
  
• The rhetoric of extraterrestrials as enemies of humanity keeps growing. They show Ronald Reagan’s famous speech at the UN saying, “How quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat.” This continues to reinforce the Hollywood-style mental pattern of an extraterrestrial invasion that has been injected into us through the entertainment industry for decades. I also looked into this, and about 80% of films or series about extraterrestrial beings portray them as a threat to humanity (this documentary obviously falls into that category as well).
  
  
• Christopher Mellon, Elizondo, and other figures end the film with this sort of heroic speech about how they are the “good guys” fighting the “bad faction” through laws they want to establish by legal means—Congress and the Senate. I highly doubt that… I’m more inclined to think they are all part of a broader strategy. And that they themselves belong to that Shadow Faction they denounce so much, like Project Legacy. After reading the works of Jacques Vallée and other ufological research, I’ve come to see the level of sophistication and distortion that U.S. intelligence services operate with. I don’t trust their “good intentions.”
  
  
• Lastly, assuming the people who appear in the documentary really are on a crusade against evil, their fight is completely naïve and senseless. If there is a Shadow Faction—Project Legacy—that has been in possession of all this advanced reverse-engineered technology for 80 years, along with the power that implies… do they really think that because a few laws get passed, these people will say, “Well, we have no choice, we surrender” and hand over the entire web of power, money, and strategic advantage that comes with being the organization they are? It makes absolutely no sense—this is not how the world works, and we all know it.

[AutumnW]

I understand your thoughts and feelings about the film and the Disclosure movement. I am not sure that the threat narrative is wrong though. I also can't tell if my own conceptual framework regarding the phenomenon reflects my own experience and personality, more than anything.

[rgray222]

Posted by Irminsül (here)
I finished watching the documentary, and I want to share the final points that caught my attention:

They talk about the danger of Russia or China using technologies obtained through reverse engineering from crashed UFOs—as if that were something terrible. I did some research, and in the last 80 years the U.S. has initiated or intervened in more than 200 wars, while Russia and China did so around 40 and 33 times, respectively. It’s more than clear, then, which country is fully dedicated to the war industry.

Irminsül, I must tell you I enjoy reading your posts. The majority of the time, they are well thought out and presented articulately, so I was a bit surprised by your opening point, especially because I have been dabbling in the propaganda thread, and my sense of propaganda is heightened. Now, there is no doubt in my mind that you can make those numbers look correct above, but that would be a stretch or enormous length. Now, when I put this question into AI, I get something that tells me a different story. My knowledge of history tells me a different story. I am not sure what your source is for those numbers, but it might warrant a double check.

Who has initiated and intervened in more wars, Russia or the USA, in the last 200 years?

You're going to have to put up a bit of information because most people just believe numbers and never check for the truth, and propaganda hurts us all. I completely understand that this is a UFO thread. It is a topic I am fairly familiar with, but getting the facts right is important.

[AutumnW]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PkrIVMe8iL4

Reed Summers and Ryan from Post Disclosure World having an intriguing conversation about the topic. It's long. Most long form podcasts bore me after the first half hour, but this one totally held my interest.

[AutumnW]

Rgray222, I found Irminsul's post very well articulated. Most opinions are valid, at this point. We still have almost zero information, outside of opinions, on the totality of the phenomenon.😊🫂

[Irminsül]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
Irminsül, I must tell you I enjoy reading your posts. The majority of the time, they are well thought out and presented articulately, so I was a bit surprised by your opening point, especially because I have been dabbling in the propaganda thread, and my sense of propaganda is heightened. Now, there is no doubt in my mind that you can make those numbers look correct above, but that would be a stretch or enormous length. Now, when I put this question into AI, I get something that tells me a different story. My knowledge of history tells me a different story. I am not sure what your source is for those numbers, but it might warrant a double check.


You're going to have to put up a bit of information because most people just believe numbers and never check for the truth, and propaganda hurts us all. I completely understand that this is a UFO thread. It is a topic I am fairly familiar with, but getting the facts right is important.

Hi rgray222. I think it’s valid to respond to you on this, because we’re debating this documentary, and it talks more than once about world wars, armed conflicts between countries, and geopolitical issues. I also sometimes use artificial intelligence to do research or cross-check data between different AIs. In this case, it wasn’t very difficult to verify what I wrote in my post.

Even Wikipedia itself (which is probably one of the most pro–United States communication channels out there) states very clearly in the first paragraph on the topic the following: that out of the 400 military interventions, wars, or armed incursions carried out by the U.S. since 1776, 50% of them occurred after 1950 (meaning within the last 75 years).






https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreig..._United_States