Day 1 of Trump's Presidency... and all the days that follow

[Rizotto]

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by Rizotto (here)

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by AuCo (here)
"... But why did they chose to take those drugs in the first place?

No one is forced to take drugs... "

Same goes with no kids are forced to have sex chat with an adult.

It all makes perfect sense when you think about it. Rizzoto's friends don't take drugs, ergo drug cartels and narco states are blameless.

Do YOU and your friends take drugs? How many people in your social circle are drug addicts on the verge of overdosing?

There's a way out of this dude! You don't have to keep twisting yourself into pretzels to make drug cartels and narco states into sympathetic figures. You can admit that illegal drugs are evil, the cartels are evil, the narco state leaders are evil ..and still condemn any potential war initiated by the US on Venezuela. Those 2 things can be true at the same time.

I get it.. you're in a perfect Trump-deranged hell of your own making atm and you don't want to ruin it by saying anything reasonable, but it would be far easier to cut loose of this argument and try hating Trump in some other less irrational ways.. ways that don't require you to defend mass murdering psychopaths I mean. No one will mistake you for a Trump supporter if you do, except for maybe Bojancan.

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1) Mike, the problem is that Venezuela isn't actually a 'narco state'. This is another invented PR excuse — like WMD! — for a regime change war, like Libya, Iraq, etc etc etc. Whatever this military adventure is about, it's not about drugs.

2) And the bombed boats weren't 'smuggling drugs' to the US. They had a range of about 60 miles. When they were blown out of the water, they had another 1500 miles to go.

3) I'm wondering if TDS might best be redefined as the kind of 'derangement' that makes sincere people believe that Trump has somehow held true to all his election promises!

4) And Rizotto isn't a dude.

Rizoto is Rizota? Apologies

I agree it may not be about drugs exclusively (or at all), but I would dispute the narco state thing. I have almost every reason to believe that's what it is. I'm not married to the idea, and would update my thinking if presented with some relevant info. But atm the evidence for this seems overwhelming. I've heard all kinds of arguments against the US invading (I don't want to invade Venezuela either for the record!) but I've never heard anyone dispute the narco state thing. I'd be interested in hearing more about this.

I can't speak for any other Trump supporters, but I of course know Trump hasn't kept all his promises (yet anyway). But complaining about what he hasn't done in favor of what he has done seems mostly cynical and ungrateful to me (at least if you're an American). If you're not American, and you don't like the US or Trump etc, fair play. But Trump has saved the country, just by shutting down the border. Forget everything else - this one act saved the country from sure destruction. And he's changed the entire culture, almost single-handedly from a woke/Marxist dystopia to something resembling what it should be (all in less than a year). So I'm not unaware of where he's come up short, but I still remain thrilled with the progress so far.

And you're not off topic!

Mike, do you see any Venezuelan in the room with you right now?

Anyway, I provided information in one post above, where a geopolitic expert checked the USA department of narcotics website regarding foreign sources of illegal drugs, and he saw that Venezuela was either listed at the very bottom or had next to zero drug shipping to USA. Why don't you look it up.

The very fact that Trump just stole an oil tanker transporting Venezuelan oil, on the pretext that this was in violation of the USA sanctions, which are illegal in the first place, shows that drugs isn't the pivotal factor. Regime change is.

[Rizotto]

Just trying to keep track of the priorities here. The USA is reportedly the worst offender for human trafficking. (Canada is next.)

Meanwhile Trump recently declared that the Epstein case is a hoax, silencing Epstein victims. It's only thanks to Thomas Massie that the issue was voted in congress in favour of releasing the files (but will they have been purged of the most damning information, we'll probably never know...) Marjorie Taylor-Greene also insisted that the Epstein files be released. Both Massie and MTG insist on 'america first' policies.

In response, Trump bashed both MTG and Massie. He wants them both out of congress, regardless of the fact that their constituents voted them in.

My question to the forum, what should be the priority, blowing up non-combatant boats in international waters, or finding out how many politicians in congress are operating under blackmail, and which country exactly is doing the blackmail operation.

Eric Moutsos, on X, December 11, 2025:

"If you're a conservative and more outraged about folks like Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson, but not outraged about America bankrolling a live-streamed genocide in Gaza or the dozens of blackmailed pedophiles on the Epstein list who run our government, you might not be as conservative as you think."

[Rizotto]

Trump Now FORCES Tourists to Show 5 Years of Social Media

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VhY7IaN1toI

[Jaak]

[SilentFeathers]

RE: Venezuela, etc

The "Trump Corollary" to the Monroe Doctrine refers to the Trump administration's 2025 National Security Strategy, which revitalizes the 1823 Monroe Doctrine (opposing European meddling in the Americas) by asserting U.S. political, economic, and military control over the Western Hemisphere, blocking all outside influence (like China/Russia), securing vital resources/assets (Panama Canal), and demanding loyalty, treating the region as a U.S. sphere of influence with increased military presence and an "America First" agenda applied to the Americas.

From the Whitehouse/Trump Administration: On the anniversary of the Monroe Doctrine, Dec. 2, 2025, The Whitehouse posted this;

America 250: Presidential Message on the Anniversary of the Monroe Doctrine
Proclamations December 2, 2025

On December 2, 1823, the doctrine of American sovereignty was immortalized in prose when President James Monroe declared before the Nation a simple truth that has echoed throughout the ages: The United States will never waver in defense of our homeland, our interests, or the well-being of our citizens. Today, my Administration proudly reaffirms this promise under a new “Trump Corollary” to the Monroe Doctrine: That the American people—not foreign nations nor globalist institutions—will always control their own destiny in our hemisphere.

More than 2 centuries ago, President Monroe proclaimed before the United States Congress what is today known as the legendary “Monroe Doctrine”—a bold policy that rejects foreign interference of faraway nations and confidently asserts United States leadership in the Western Hemisphere. “The American continents, by the free and independent condition which they have assumed and maintain, are henceforth not to be considered as subjects for future colonization by any European powers,” President Monroe professed. With those mighty words, every nation knew that the United States of America was emerging as a superpower unlike anything the world had ever known—and that nothing could ever rival the strength, unity, and resolve of a freedom-loving people.

In the centuries since, President Monroe’s doctrine of sovereignty has guarded the American continents against communism, fascism, and foreign infringement, and as the 47th President of the United States, I am proudly reasserting this time-honored policy. Since I took office, I have aggressively pursued an America first policy of peace through strength. We restored U.S. privileged access through the Panama Canal. We are reestablishing American maritime dominance. We are disrupting non-market practices in the international supply chain and logistics sectors.

My Administration is also halting the flow of deadly drugs flowing through Mexico, ending the invasion of illegal aliens along our southern border, and dismantling narco-terrorist networks all across the Western Hemisphere. To defend our Nation’s workers and industries, I recently secured historic trade deals with El Salvador, Argentina, Ecuador, and Guatemala, allowing greater and more streamlined market access. Reinvigorated by my Trump Corollary, the Monroe Doctrine is alive and well—and American leadership is coming roaring back stronger than ever before.

Today, we renew our pledge to always uphold American sovereignty, security, and safety first. Above all, we vow to protect our cherished national legacy of republican self-government against all threats, foreign and domestic.
SOURCE

By the sounds of this, Venezuela may not be the only country being targeted. I suspect Columbia also may be targeted for precision strikes, or perhaps even Cartel locations in Mexico.

This may also be related to Trump talking about Canada being the 51st State, purchasing Greenland, Strong arming Mexico, etc.

[Kryztian]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

the problem is that Venezuela isn't actually a 'narco state'. This is another invented PR excuse — like WMD! — for a regime change war, like Libya, Iraq, etc etc etc. Whatever this military adventure is about, it's not about drugs.

This 11 minute analysis by Glenn Greenwald is insightful, logical and concise and should show clearly to anyone with a rational mind that Trumps words and actions have absolutely nothing to do with preventing drugs overdoses here in the US. In summary:

• On September 14th Trump stated that "300 million people died last year from drug overdoses." The population of the United States is a little over 300 million. How did most of our population disappear without me noticing?
  
  
• In the last two years the number of deaths from drug overdose have come down and most of them are from synthetic opiods (e.g. fentanyl) and methamphetamine , none of which come from Venezuela. The get drug that comes from Venezuela is cocaine, and Venezuela only sends a fraction of what it's neighbor Columbia produces.
  
  
• Trump just pardoned convicted drug trafficker Juan Orlando Hernández (who was sentenced to serve 45 years in prison) so that he go back to Honduras and run for president.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wJ_KMNE3eM8

[Rizotto]

Scott Ritter: The US just committed an act of piracy with the takeover of Venezuela's oil tanker.

"The US military's seizure of a Venezuelan oil tanker is backfiring hard on Trump says Scott Ritter, and Russia's quiet military cooperation with the Maduro government should not be underestimated according to analyst Andrei Martyanov. This video breaks down the catastrophic consequences of Trump's escalations."

Scott Ritter: US Tanker Seizure DESTROYS Trump's Venezuela War, Russia Steps In

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aH7yndNpGdg

There's even a clip of Trump stating that US will keep the tanker, and the oil.

[jaybee]

Posted by Rizotto (here)
There's even a clip of Trump stating that US will keep the tanker, and the oil.

I'm sorry - It probably shouldn't have :-) but this amused me - cus Orange Man Bad - so so incorrigible and bad -

the part where he says it is at the very beginning (relevant bit starts 31 seconds) he responds to a journalist's question and says in a 'mild' way - "well we keep it, I guess" ...

I do actually wonder what game Scot Ritter is playing, what roll, and I've felt like that for a while now....because all the different leading 'actors' in the Deep State Plot are not going to be obvious because if they were they wouldn't be doing their job... (this is just a kind of intuitive speculation about Ritter and I am prepared and willing to be totally wrong about my somewhat vague suspicions...)

He (Ritter) waxes lyrical about 'the law' as if America (and the West) actually has a functioning, independent, unbiased judiciary - the virtual collapse of the institution of the law is no excuse for Trump to go rogue, of course, BUT is he going rogue or is operating within areas of law that are classified - regarding National Security and whatnot...?

I don't know... and I hazard a guess that Scot Ritter (or any other prominent commentator) probably doesn't either...

Trump said a long time ago (words to the effect) that he couldn't understand WHY political leaders etc - announced what they were going to do up front - letting the 'enemy' know their plans - - - perhaps the whole oil tanker incident is a big dramatic distraction - a diversion for the commentators and Anti Trumpers while other plans are quietly unfolding and building momentum else where.....

Just saying - - - - and, of course, time will tell....

[Jad]

It’s mind-boggling to me that some people still believe Trump, or any president, is truly “running the show.” Since JFK was made an example of, all the rest toed the line and delivered us to this timeline.
And when people talk about“narco-states,” it’s worth asking uncomfortable questions: Who was protecting the poppy fields in Afghanistan? Why did Pat Tillman really die by so-called “friendly fire”? Does anyone seriously believe the CIA simply stopped being involved in drug trafficking—or did they just outsource it to the cartels?
At the end of the day, most politicians on both sides of the aisle are just actors, delivering their lines and playing their roles in a much larger script.

[Mike]

Posted by Jad (here)
It’s mind-boggling to me that some people still believe Trump, or any president, is truly “running the show.” Since JFK was made an example of, all the rest toed the line and delivered us to this timeline.
And when people talk about“narco-states,” it’s worth asking uncomfortable questions: Who was protecting the poppy fields in Afghanistan? Why did Pat Tillman really die by so-called “friendly fire”? Does anyone seriously believe the CIA simply stopped being involved in drug trafficking—or did they just outsource it to the cartels?
At the end of the day, most politicians on both sides of the aisle are just actors, delivering their lines and playing their roles in a much larger script.

Trump is running as much of the show as is within his purview. Obviously there are things beyond his influence but it's no excuse to lump him in with any other presidents or any other politician anywhere. That's crazy. Not a single one has even come remotely close to his brazenness and willingness to take on deep state entities and return the US to the sovereign nation it was intended to be. I could spend the next hour listing examples of this.

You can dispute his success rate all you like or nitpick this or that, but the ingratitude at his efforts just floors me every time I read something like this. He's truly trying to do the impossible, something no president has ever done, putting his life on the line in the process, and doing it all for free mind you. He doesn't even take a salary! LOL.

Have you ever taken a bullet for something you've believed in? Do you work for free? This 100% across the board cynicism re politicians is a cop out. If removes you from having to do the difficult work of parsing apart something far more complex than you're suggesting. There are good guys out there, and we do them a horrible disservice by adopting this cynical attitude. We have a civic duty to support the good guys when we're fortunate enough to have them, and if we fail as a country it will be mostly our fault, not our leaders.

[Open Minded Dude]

Posted by Rizotto (here)
Trump Now FORCES Tourists to Show 5 Years of Social Media

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VhY7IaN1toI

What if you are NOT on any officially recognized and trending Social Media at all (and thus no posts exist)? You're a potential terrorist then already? So I would be? (Not that I intend to spend any holidays in the US, but it is still discriminatory for no reason).

[Jad]

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by Jad (here)
It’s mind-boggling to me that some people still believe Trump, or any president, is truly “running the show.” Since JFK was made an example of, all the rest toed the line and delivered us to this timeline.
And when people talk about“narco-states,” it’s worth asking uncomfortable questions: Who was protecting the poppy fields in Afghanistan? Why did Pat Tillman really die by so-called “friendly fire”? Does anyone seriously believe the CIA simply stopped being involved in drug trafficking—or did they just outsource it to the cartels?
At the end of the day, most politicians on both sides of the aisle are just actors, delivering their lines and playing their roles in a much larger script.

Trump is running as much of the show as is within his purview. Obviously there are things beyond his influence but it's no excuse to lump him in with any other presidents or any other politician anywhere. That's crazy. Not a single one has even come remotely close to his brazenness and willingness to take on deep state entities and return the US to the sovereign nation it was intended to be. I could spend the next hour listing examples of this.

You can dispute his success rate all you like or nitpick this or that, but the ingratitude at his efforts just floors me every time I read something like this. He's truly trying to do the impossible, something no president has ever done, putting his life on the line in the process, and doing it all for free mind you. He doesn't even take a salary! LOL.

Have you ever taken a bullet for something you've believed in? Do you work for free? This 100% across the board cynicism re politicians is a cop out. If removes you from having to do the difficult work of parsing apart something far more complex than you're suggesting. There are good guys out there, and we do them a horrible disservice by adopting this cynical attitude. We have a civic duty to support the good guys when we're fortunate enough to have them, and if we fail as a country it will be mostly our fault, not our leaders.

Mike, for the record, I voted for him three times, so it’s not as if I have an agenda against him. I’m simply looking at the situation as a whole, and I don’t believe politicians are the true decision-makers. You’re free to disagree with me, of course, but I wouldn’t call your position a cop-out.

[Mike]

Fair enough Jad Sorry for getting a little aggressive there. It's accurate to say that a great many politicians are slime balls; I'm not disputing that. I just regret that the few heroes we have left in politics get painted with the same brush. If I'm putting myself in Trump's shoes, I'm thinking to myself, what else do these people want from me? He's already proven that he's willing to pay the ultimate price for this country. He's willing to die for it. That goes a long way with me.

You're right about the CIA. That's a fair point. And any American who's sincerely concerned about South American narco states needs to acknowledge our own complicity in such things.

I might say though that the CIA is mostly a rogue organization at this point. It's American in name only, far as I'm concerned. But we do have to take responsibility for it. It's all really shameful and sh!tty.

[BMJ]

Posted by jaybee (here)
BUT is he going rogue or is operating within areas of law that are classified - regarding National Security and whatnot...?

I don't know... and I hazard a guess that Scott Ritter (or any other prominent commentator) probably doesn't either...

The information is there if care to look.

Derrick Johnson has been stating it for years President Trump is a wartime Commander In Chief.

Even Kim Clement predicted that there will be time of two Presidents. That has transpired as President Trump as C-I-C and Creepy Joe as COG during 46.

I remember President Trump being in court and topic came up about his position during Creepy Joes presidency and he clearly stated under oath he was at the time the Commander In Chief.

Furthermore the National Guard is at the moment part of the US army as is the Coast Guard part of the US Navy. The only time this happens is during a time of war.

The war is against this satanic globalist cabal and it is a global war, and President Trumps actions are taken according to the Law Of War Manual.

During a time of war you are not going to telegraph your intentions to the enemy unlike what Barry did during his time as the resident and not the President.

Then to get this understanding your going to have to look up Derrick Johnson work and also the Q posts.

The funny thing about the Q posts they were stating different numbers such as 11.3 which seemed like a code which nobody could figure out.
A guy named Carl from New Zealand was one of the first to figure it out, they where references to different sections of the Law of war Manual.
So there is that link between Q and the Law Of War Manual which the white hats are governed by.

MAJIC EYES QNLY
Link: https://rumble.com/c/MAJICEYESQNLY/videos

So now you have the means to understand if wish to learn more jaybee.


Alex "But He's The President"
Link: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1694896

The difference in understanding is demonstrated here in these videos in the link above.

Alex has a very simplistic point of view about the Presidency where as Susan Kokinda provides the considerations that President Trump has to make in his decision making it is not black and white at the moment.

One day it will be more obvious once the satanic globalist cabal is vanquished.

[Merkaba360]

When will people stop thinking in absolutes, 100% puppet vs 100% stepping into the prez hot seat and just making all Hans Solo decisions. Both are ridiculous. Its like chess, you enter into a very complicated game. Just getting into the game requires working with many lobbyists and real INFLUENCERS. Based on the U.S. current position on the chess board and all the influencers, there aren't that many possible decisions to make. Many moves are just plain stupid or too much pressure to go that way. Some moves are - our faction wants to do A, so we have to B (which we don't want to do), cuz it requires scratching whoever's back and such.

So, let's say weekend at Bernie's Biden, was the closest to making 0% of decisions of any prez. Maybe Trump is 20% or whatever. And if Trump is aligned with a different faction then overall their decisions could be overall a higher % change in strategy on the chess board. I've heard that Trump actually does clever maneuvering weaving together deals that are unique and partially satisfy desires of various influencer factions. That would be an example of a degree of freedom in the decision making a clever prez can actually accomplish.

Keep in mind even 20% influence is enough to thwart big globalist plans that can't afford mistakes or big delays.

I don't think Venezuela is really about the drugs either. Who knows what having them aligned with US does for the global chess strategy. It could be huge in the overall global battle and security of the western hemisphere from eastern hemisphere influence.

As much as I don't want my country bullying anybody, I don't think they can stop all of that if they wanted. Cuz others are relentless and will only step up their aggression with unconventional weapons and gain more dominance.

Ive heard the ukraine war is mainly about secret weapon tech research that is going on underground and what not. Weapons that are real game changers. Maybe the bio lab thing was cover for that. Who knows, but I tend to think secret tech is the number one security issue in general which has to have a cover. Probably just above resources.

FWIW, I have a source who is mostly unknown, who predicted the oct. 10 crypto crash and almost the exact fall of bitcoin by mid november. His reading on Trump is that his soul contract is to expose a degree of corruption of his opponents (democrats and others) and eventually accidentally exposing some of his own corruption. I guess which will be enough to spark a fair amount of change. That sounds reasonable to me. So, when seen with a birds eye view, partial bad guys can end up being overall good guys for changing how the collect thinks.

[norman]

Posted by BMJ (here)


Alex "But He's The President"
Link: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1694896

The difference in understanding is demonstrated here in these videos in the link above.

Alex has a very simplistic point of view about the Presidency where as Susan Kokinda proved the considerations that President Trump has to make in his decision making it is not black and white at the moment.

Almost seems to me Alex has just outed himself as a shill, which wouldn't say much for the Duran as a whole. As things develop, 'Redacted' isn't looking much different either.

I don't really know what it is with these people. I don't know if it's financial diversion from suddenly downsized MSM outfits or if these people just can't get their asses out of their heads.

[Rizotto]

(post deleted by Bill as it was a reference to a quote attribution error in post #1614 above, which is now fixed. )

[Rizotto]

There are many video clips on the internet dating back years ago about Trump boasting of 'taking the oil', mostly from Syria and Iraq. All the while the USA was putting Syria's Assad government under destructive sanctions, over the protest of Russia which military had in fact liberated Syria from ISIS at Assad's request, and Russia's military continued to protect Syria for years onward.

In the aftermath, Syria demanded multiple times that USA military ends its illegal occupation and extraction of Syria's oil fields. The USA continued stealing Syria's resources, and sanctioning Syria at the same time, knowing that this would bring Syria to its knees. Trump's pretext that USA military presence was to fight ISIS was false, in fact the CIA created ISIS, and Trump was only following Bibi's orders of controlling Syria. Russia had done most of the fighting to push back ISIS.

What could be more illustrative of utmost greed and disregard for the well being of a population of another country than Trump's boasts about stealing their resources.
No surprise that Trump is doing it again with Venezuela, but with even more criminality.

Donald Trump: US left troops in Syria 'only for the oil'

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=U10p3Tn9V5Y

For those who claim that Trump is fighting a "globalist satanic cabal", just remember that even Canada's demon globalist Trudeau supported the USA attempted coup of Venezuela years ago (under president Trump) which tried to install Juan Guaido. And Canada's Trudeau also supported USA's sanctions against Syria.

[jaybee]

Posted by Rizotto (here)
At the beginning of the above post, BMJ is 'quoting' a couple of sentences under my name.
For the record, I didn't write those words. I don't agree at all with what is expressed in that quote.

Yes I saw that and maybe a Mod will correct the quote format.....

The confusion is now further compounded with your post 1617 quoting me as saying what BMJ said

It'll get sorted.....

[Rizotto]

Post deleted by Rizotto, as the glitch was fixed by the mods, so this post no longer relevant.