Gold and silver

[Dubsy]

I do not have time to start a new thread and participate in comments that I am always honored to do as a free thinking member of this Avolon community.
Gold and silver are hitting crazy prices (lows) as I post this. I'm involved in the whole finance façade, fakedom, false banksta gangsta narrative by default.
I really wish to see these guys burn

At this time the paper market of gold and silver is the place to be be = not because I agree it should be that way and not because it should be that way.
This is the way 'we the people' have allowed it to be

I have just gone long useless paper gold and silver

We can have all the reasons why it's not real later and I'm sure I will agree with you all

Silver I am long here USD 24.62' oz ---- Gold I am long USD 1927'

With the mods and Bill's agreement I can move this on to an individual 'stand alone' thread

No way am I licensed to give any type of financial advice at this time.

Mod note from Bill:
Yes, moved to start a new topic from its original home on the Ukraine/WW3 thread.

[Johnnycomelately]

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Posted by Dubsy (here)
I do not have time to start a new thread and participate in comments that I am always honored to do as a free thinking member of this Avolon community.
Gold and silver are hitting crazy prices (lows) as I post this. I'm involved in the whole finance façade, fakedom, false banksta gangsta narrative by default.
I really wish to see these guys burn

At this time the paper market of gold and silver is the place to be be = not because I agree it should be that way and not because it should be that way.
This is the way 'we the people' have allowed it to be

I have just gone long useless paper gold and silver

We can have all the reasons why it's not real later and I'm sure I will agree with you all

Silver I am long here USD 24.62' oz ---- Gold I am long USD 1927'

So, you’re saying we should buy gold and silver vouchers? ~8D

[Dubsy]

You're a clever guy Johnny ''vouchers ''

[Dubsy]

This will be interesting

I've listened to Clif High who I respect on a deeper level .

He is absolutely correct in his thinking on gold / and Silver, In my opinion . - The tipping point is going to be much more difficult to predict .
Buying the paper gold today is the easiest way of making big short term gains

[Dubsy]

I will keep you posted on results / what I am seeing in the banksta' gangtsa 'metaverse '

Many thanks to Bill and the mod's

[TravelerJim]

I doubt Clif suggest buying anything but the actual metals right, and keeping them with you and not through an intermediary?

[The Moss Trooper]

Posted by TravelerJim (here)
I doubt Clif suggest buying anything but the actual metals right, and keeping them with you and not through an intermediary?

Absolutely.

If you are going to buy any precious metal, you need to be in possession of the material goods.

The whole point of putting your paper cash into precious metals is to insulate against the currency markets going t*ts-up.......... If that does happen then the metal certificates will be worse than useless, maybe good for starting a fire but not much else.

Anyone who suggests otherwise is talking outta their ar$e.

There is something very interesting happening with gold at the minute. Last week it spiked, briefly, above the hallowed $2000 per ounce mark, but this has been pressured-down (artificially) this past week. IF gold was to hit it's true potential it would be the end of the FIAT farce.

[mountain_jim]

Well I have been a long-term holder of an in-between situation - an intermediary who sells you a stake in their physical gold and silver and owns the metals in 'their' vaults.

PSLV - SPROTT PHYSICAL SILVER TR TR UNIT (PHYS for Sprott Gold)

Fully Allocated Precious Metals
The Trusts' precious metals are fully allocated which provides the Trusts with direct beneficial ownership. Unlike other bullion funds, the Trusts do not have an unallocated account that is used to facilitate transfers of bullion between financial institutions that act as authorized participants. Without exception, all of the bullion owned by the Trusts is held in the Trusts' allocated accounts in physical form.

In contrast, unallocated gold does not correspond to specific bars and does not provide direct beneficial ownership or title. Counter party risk is a key consideration when investing in unallocated gold as there may not be a sufficient amount of gold backing all of the ownership claims and in the event of bankruptcy, you will likely become an unsecured creditor.


Redeemable for Metals

Subject to minimum redemption amounts, unitholders have the ability to redeem their units for physical bullion on a monthly basis. The Royal Canadian Mint can deliver the bars almost anywhere in the world via an Armored Transportation Service Carrier. Physical redemptions will never dilute remaining unitholders. All physical redemptions are equal to 100% of the NAV per Unit of the redeemed units, less redemption and delivery expenses, including the handling of the notice of redemption and the applicable bullion storage in-and-out fees.1

....
the Trusts store their precious metals in custody with the Royal Canadian Mint, a Federal Crown Corporation of the Government of Canada. There is no levered financial institution between the unitholders and the Trusts' physical bullion and no risk of financial loss in the event of a bankruptcy or nationalization of the financial institution.

Better (backed by remote physical, not just paper) than GLD or SLV but by how much? - time will tell.

I realize there a problems with this, but that's where I put my IRA dollars at the time - Sprott Silver and Gold held in Canadian vaults (well now that seems to be more of a problem and I also hold some SGOL where the risk is that the vaults holding the physical are looted or audits are insufficient and such.

Aberdeen Standard Physical Gold
Shares ETF (SGOL) seeks to reflect
the performance of the price of gold
bullion, less the Trust’s expenses.
Key Features:
. Physically-Backed: The Trust holds
allocated physical gold bullion bars
stored in secure vaults.
. Transparency: The metal is held
in allocated bars and a bar list is
posted daily on abrdn.com/usa/et

Maybe I should take physical delivery of the silver at least but so far I have not.

[Anchor]

Gold is plentiful on this planet, but this is a secret to be revealed in the near future.

Gold is the "currency" of the cabal and the timeline where by gold has "value" is linked to the timeline of the survival of the cabal's control over world affairs.

Consider that many countries have laws that, upon decree, allow for governments to seize gold from citizens. (Example: The Australian 1959 Banking Act, Part IV, gives power to the Governor General (not the government!) to activate this section of law, which among other things requires all holdings of physical gold to be delivered to the banks for a price nominated by the banks). This act is specifically for Gold - why not any of the other "precious" metals?

I hold a minimal investment in Gold and a little more in Silver.

The trouble with Silver is that compared to Gold it is quite cheap for the same physical mass, so you end up with a lot of metal to keep safe.

I would advocate having some physical silver in bullion form (which is usually at least 99.99% pure) but the standards vary around the world - in addition to all the other options open to you.

At the end of the day, when the chips are down and food is running out, or the front of some natural disaster is approaching you - this kind of thing is moot!

[Denise/Dizi]

I just want to state to everyone that gold prices have rarely spiked to extremely high values in a big hurry. In order to really make any money in gold, truly you must buy a lot of it, and it gets expensive very quickly.

For example, gold has been fluctuating between around 1750/ounce to 2000/ounce for the last four years. The time to buy it would have been 4 years ago. And there really is no gold shortage in the world... It is all over the place still, it is just that most mines have stopped operating, Mostly due to regulation and a cap on value. Meaning they stop mines from pulling it out of the quartz, or limit water mining, and boom, we now have a supply and demand issue that drives up the prices. Just like paper it is manipulated.

So lets say you bought 10 ounces when it was $1780/ounce... Held it for 4 years and sold it for $2000/ounce. For four years worth of holding onto it, you would have spent $17,800.00 and made $220 per ounce.. Assuming you found someone who wanted it at inflated prices in bulk... That is a $2,200 profit. Really not much when you look at other options...You could probably find old stuff in your closet, sell it on ebay for that amount, and never had to spend the $17.8k to begin with.

Gold trading, or buying and selling really isn't as much of a money maker as most would like to believe unless you have a huge amount of cash to stash into it, and a lot of time... Plus a very safe place to store it. The safe alone to hold that amount of gold would run you double your profit...

Just adding my two cents... and opinions. Gold is more a long term investment opportunity, unless you are buying massive quantites, and expect a very serious rise in prices... You really don't make much money on it, unless it is long term given your initial investment.

At time of posting this prices are...
Gold $1949.65 / ounce
Silver $25.34 / ounce

Not a financial advise either... Family owns a jewelry shop, and has for over 47 years... Just thought I would share why they don't invest in gold or silver and stash it... we buy it as needed for making new pieces... for just these reasons...

[Waldo]

Gold bugs don't like Martin Armstrong he destroys all the reasons why gold should be valued higher in terms of currencies. However in his blog today he mentions one of the benefits of owning pre 64 silver coins

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/w...ncies-rations/

[norman]

China Just Broke the Banking Cartel’s Grip on Silver — Is the Reset Entering Its Finale?
Man In America - Dec 27


Something historic is unfolding in the silver market — and it’s not about investing or price charts. As silver explodes higher, long-standing price controls are breaking, physical metal is vanishing from vaults, and a decades-old paper system is starting to fail in real time. China is paying far more for real silver than the West, exports are being restricted, and the gap between paper promises and physical reality is blowing wide open. What happens when a financial system built on leverage, debt, and confidence runs out of trust? Is silver the first domino to fall — and a signal that the Great Financial Reset is entering its endgame? This episode breaks down what’s happening, why it matters, and why the cracks you’re seeing now won’t stay contained to metals.


https://rumble.com/v73jmaa-china-jus...?e9s=rel_v2_ep

[Denise/Dizi]

Boy the prices sure have shot up, but I knew this was going to happen... At the time of posting this, gold sits at $4,449.40 an ounce, and silver at over $72.18. Silver going up much faster but so much more material to deal with...

I can't guess as to what the market is going to do in the future, but I can tell you, mining in most areas is being so over regulated that getting the minerals off site these days is nearly impossible... Most mines in our area are being shut down... which drives prices up. And with electric vehicles, and the computer technologies, and medical technologies of the future needing these precious metals? My guess would be it will continue to rise... It may drop and rise here and there but I believe that technologies are our future, and those things NEED the precious metals.....

But buy at your own risk...

I personally will continue to invest in gold...

I wish more people understood the money system... The single biggest complaint we heard this year was that gold prices were too high to buy jewelry as gifts... I spent most of my time telling them that the gold standard was the standard that our currency system was based upon, so if gold went up, EVERYTHING went up accordingly... Which means rather than buying a precious metal, they are spending the same inflated value on things that will lose their value as soon as they leave the mall.... and in fact they're devaluing their purchasing power...

Where the gold they could have bought, will more than likely go up.. And if not today, it surely will the more the technologies require the materials...

Lack of material equals more value for the available materials = the prices rise... It's simple math.

Interesting times... Just my 2 cents...

[mountain_jim]

Where I watch the price, silver is at 79.33 from the market close on 12/26, and will not be updated until sometime markets reopen sometime later tonight.


https://x.com/WallStreetMav/status/2...131610742?s=20

Wall Street Mav
@WallStreetMav

One of the biggest reasons for silver demand increasing so much in recent years is solar panels.

Production of silver mining + recycling = about 1 billion oz per year. Solar panel industry consumes about 25% of that total, and growing fast.

As the solar industry moves to newer technologies, those more advanced solar panels actually increase their silver consumption per W (see image).

PERC → TOPCon → HJT increases silver intensity

There has been a great deal of speculation about copper substitution in the solar industry. So far it hasn't happened in any significant amounts and it would take years to switch factories over to using copper instead of silver. If silver were to reach prices of $125 per oz or higher, it is estimated that solar manufacturers would more seriously start moving to copper. We would begin to see demand destruction in the consumption of silver.

Credit:
@abcampbell
for image.

[mountain_jim]

Market has reopened with Silver up over $82 after drop from over $83

(more links and images at link>

https://www.zerohedge.com/precious-m...ecome-possible

Silver Tops $83: "When Prices Move Like This, An Awful Lot Of Bad Things Become Possible..."

The final week of the year begins with silver adding to a stunning month of gains, topping $83 for the first time...



Platinum and gold are also catching an early bid, with Treasury futures lower.

Silver is now at its most expensive relative to gold since Feb 2013...

Analyst and financial writer John Rubino has been warning of a currency crisis., expounding on his warning via Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com.

On Friday, we saw a record high price spike for silver that produced a record high price for the white metal. Meanwhile, we saw record high prices for gold on the same day.

This has never happened before, and that shows the currency crisis long predicted is here. Rubino says,

“Currencies are pouring into real money in anticipation of the existing fiat currencies dying. That is a whole different thing and on a much bigger scale because the numbers are grossly inflated after 70 years of a credit super cycle. So, what we have seen so far is really just the beginning.

Gold and silver have had huge runs, but they are doing it when things are more or less still normal. Precious metals are starting to soar in anticipation of something abnormal coming.

Right now, this is a bigger gold than silver story because gold is the money we go back to when national currencies fail. Silver is a more complex story because it is also an industrial metal.

There are new industries that are using more and more silver, and there is just not enough silver to satisfy that demand.”

Rubino contends the silver price spike will bring on a lot of volatility. Rubino points out, “That is pretty much a lock..."

"Silver is probably going to bounce around a lot in the next week or so. . .. All the silver is being sucked away, and when they run out, they say we will just pay you cash for these futures contracts. If that happens, that is basically the end of paper exchanges.

We will just totally stop trusting them.

Why would anybody want a long futures contract on an exchange that just defaults . . .. This is another big thing that might happen in the coming weeks.

When you see prices move like this, an awful lot of bad things become possible. . ..

There are a lot of shorts out there that just went massively underwater on Friday. . .. Somebody big has a lot of losses. . .. It’s like Warren Buffett says, ‘You only know who has been swimming naked when the tide goes out. Well, the tide has gone out for silver, and now we are going to find out who was unwisely short that market in the past week.”

Rubino sees silver resetting to at least $200 per ounce in the not-too-distant future. Gold will also reset to at least $10,000 per ounce.

Rubino says the next big trend is Big Tech players buying actual silver mines and bypassing metal exchanges altogether. Rubino says,

“Big Tech players are going to go out and get silver now, so they are set for the next few years. Yes, some of them are starting to buy silver mines.

In the mining sector, this is one of the big changes we will see coming soon.

Maybe Tesla buys First Majestic or some mine like that. Tesla buys a big silver mining company with multiple silver mines to guarantee silver supply going forward. . .. Google, Meta or Microsoft can pay insane amounts of money for commodities if they need to. It’s inventory building and panic buying in some cases. . ..

All roads lead to higher precious metals right now. The only way it doesn’t is if there is a global nuclear war that extinguishes civilization.

Take that out of the equation, and everything points to weaker currencies and higher precious metals prices.”

[justntime2learn]

Did JP Morgan (Jamie Dimon) corner the silver market?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YNOQiQC3k7s

[DNA]

Posted by justntime2learn (here)
Did JP Morgan (Jamie Dimon) corner the silver market?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=YNOQiQC3k7s

Too funny Chuck, I love this guy, I've learned a lot listening to him.
Silver will never really go back down.
Artificial pushes by the West to lower silver but China will never let it go back down.
China and electronic manufacturing are gobbling up physical silver.
I'm curious how this will play out in world economic circles,,, this could cause a lot of banks and hedge funds that were shorting silver to lose solvency and who knows how far that will go

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/shanaka86/status/2005544519450677575?s=20

Shanaka Anslem Perera ⚡
@shanaka86

I just watched $4 billion in silver longs get vaporized in 70 minutes.

$83.75 to $75.15. Fastest wipeout I’ve ever seen.

CNBC is already running the “bubble burst” narrative. Bloomberg too. They want you scared. They want you out.

But nobody’s talking about what happened in Shanghai during that exact same window.

While American traders panic-dumped at $75, Chinese buyers were paying $90. Ninety. For the same metal. The premium didn’t shrink during the crash—it widened.

Let that sink in.

This wasn’t a top. This was a heist.

I’ve been in this game long enough to know what a liquidity vacuum looks like. There were zero bids between $83 and $76. The algos pulled everything. Price didn’t fall—it teleported. And the second it hit $75, physical demand stepped in like it was Christmas morning.

Here’s the part that should terrify you: China locks silver exports in 72 hours. January 1st. Export licenses only. They control 70% of global supply. COMEX is down 70% on inventory. London’s vaults are bleeding. And Elon Musk just tweeted “this is not good” about the shortage.

The gold-silver ratio is 60:1. Historical average is 30. That’s $150 silver just to normalize.

Everyone’s calling this 1980. It’s not. The Hunts were speculators playing paper games. This is industrial demand crashing into empty vaults. Solar panels don’t negotiate. AI chips don’t wait.

Retail just handed their silver to sovereign wealth funds at a 15% discount.

And most of you have no idea what’s about to happen.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

Read the full story here - https://open.substack.com/pub/shanak...ariant=overlay


The Kobeissi Letter
@KobeissiLetter
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13h
Absolute insanity in silver right now:

At 6:20 PM ET, just 20 minutes after futures opened, silver prices surged to a record high of $83.75, up +6%.

[DNA]

Correct Jim.

To watch the media in lock step with the manipulation of silver prices by the big banks and the Fed is crazy.
How is the price of silver $72 right now while China is paying $90?

This guy Chuck posted goes by Asian guy, he is incredible.
He posts multiple times a day with this silver things going on and he knows what's up.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=T6ZYyxuPjT4

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/JayDavis1776/status/20...257890903?s=20

Cory 5️⃣8️⃣9️⃣
@JayDavis1776
·
3h
People are posting that a bank collapsed this morning on a silver margin call.

There is no verified reporting. No Bloomberg. No WSJ. No filings. No regulator statements.

What is confirmed: CME raised margin requirements. Silver had a violent move. Leveraged traders were forced out.

The rumor is noise. The real story is that something big is happening in silver and nobody in mainstream finance is explaining it.


Caden
@cadens25
·
3h
I can personally guarantee this is false information. We have enough on our balance sheet to pay off $250B of debt at any given second.

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Concerned Citizen
@BGatesIsaPyscho
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6h
The Bank is allegedly JP Morgan - buckle up people.


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