Deep Underground Bases - Uninhabitable?

[Peace of Mind]

Hey guys,
from what I’ve heard from Maurice Coterell and others… reproduction cannot happen underground. He has a lecture explaining how humans receive critical information from the sun, such as when women menstruate, and when to develop certain attributes in the DNA. He also elaborates on a lot of the Mayan data. It’s a 19 part lecture on YouTube…if you’re interested and have time to spare…the links below. The footage is in poor quality but you should still get the just of it if you can understand the terminology being used.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-zNT7D2w31c

I’m still on the fence with some of the decoding he has done but it was still interesting…well at least for me it was...as I was able to cross examine his ideas with other theories i've been pondering over.

Besides…Living underground might have its drawbacks…https://youtube.com/watch?v=WqDToaLuJ7I

Peace

[samvado]

Posted by Vidya Moksha (here)
there was a group that chartered a research vessel to go to the north pole to look for a 'depression' in the earth's crust, which they claimed was an entrance to the hollow earth, i dont have the link or details now but am interested to find it again, anyone know about it?
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when I visited James Gilliland in 2007 on his UFO ranch we mostly agreed on everything or lets say I did at least not disagree with a lot he had to say, EXCEPT for the hollow earth theory which he ferwently defended whilst I insisted its bull.

while I do not necessarily insist that all underground bases are a hoax, partcularily those who are built by aliens, because we have no clue what tech they might have, I DO insist that hollow earth is bullox, simply because we can and do calculate epicenters of earthquakes since decades, as well as even small nuclear underground charges. that is only possible if our model for earth interior does not divert too much from the truth. the rising temperature is another good argument as well as the noise such activity would generate, I mean in a seismic sense.
the only picture we always see from the big whole at the pole is always the same, while we must have by now thousands of such, even from the early polar expeditions by plane and ship, not to mention the thousands of flights into near earth orbit, spacelab, MIR, ISS and all the rest. - only one picture?? there are thousands of UFO pics and good knows how many of other anomalies, but only one of the "entrance to inner earth"?

in the end Gilliland told me his friend, a Dr XYZ, forgot the name, was on his way with a russian icebreaker to bring proof once and for all - I am still waiting, 3 years later, for that proof to show up in my mailbox. maybe the icebreaker sunk, I dont know ...

[xbusymom]

very interesting thread...


and hey, maybe that's where all the trillions of dollars went to... air conditioning units (heat shielding)...

[Gestalt]

Posted by xbusymom (here)
and hey, maybe that's where all the trillions of dollars went to... air conditioning units (heat shielding)...

I doubt it.

If you build an underground base for the purpose of keeping it a secret, it doesn't matter if its 1m underground or 10,000m underground.
There is no reason to go to the extra effort to build it miles beneath the surface if 1m will suffice and no one can see it anyways.
Unless there are other reasons?

[xbusymom]

I am not scientifically skilled at all, just some ideas that come to mind...

ok, (having quickly glanced thru the thread), lets say you wanted to take advantage of the claimed 'hollow-earth pockets' (magma bubbles that have expanded and burst) to create an underground intercontinental subway or conduit system (following the claims in whistle blowers' testimonies)... that would not need to create a seismic jolt to attach supporting framework for tracks to an already formed cavern shaft???

Or if the claims of 'jump-rooms' are true, you would not need to drill a lot then either, just enough to create a small office complex/lab in several bubble pockets in several places around the world, to utilize the 'beam-out' technology...

has anyone got any idea of the seismic activity back when they were building the underground supercollider? (also the seismic activity would also be limited to the local rock stratasphere on the single continent, right? I mean - you wouldn't get earthquake movement if you were digging in 'soft soils' that are not embedded in the solid rock layers?)

[Gestalt]

I you have jump rooms....why would you need intercontinental subways? This makes no sense.

[xbusymom]

idea #1 subways using existing magma shafts
or
idea #2 jump-rooms

[perfectresonance]

Perhaps it reflects old and new technology. After all, why are we still riding horses (in some countries) when we have cars?
I do have to admit to wanting a jump room of my own. Commuting is like dieing a little each time.

[xbusymom]

Posted by perfectresonance (here)
Commuting is like dieing a little each time.

hahaha - lol - but then so is driving a car, breathing in all those toxic fumes, etc.

[Hiram]

Posted by Gestalt (here)
Precisely my point. Doesn't really seem logically possible for the most part.

It just disproves, some of the Camelot 'whistleblowers' claims, calling into question their other claims as well.

Well there are numerous admitted and disclosed underground bases...though as you point out, the depth would matter. Though contrary to what you are saying my father is a hard-rock miner and used to regularly work at a depth of around 2 miles deep (Over 11.000 feet underground). The temperature is over 100 degree farenheit down there and he would sweat alot. Of course there was absolutely no insulation between their bodies and the rock itself. Now a D.U.M.B with some various basic off-the-shelf technology could take that ambient thermal heat and power the base itself with it. Insulating from the heat would be no problem and Air conditioning could be powered by heat exchangers. So in a way your contention about the heat has only made the possibility of a DUMB's existence MORE possible. Thanx!

Doesn't really disprove anything. All you've done is show that its Hot down deep...or that it's commonly accepted that its hot down deep. Overcoming that heat, and building a base is a relatively minor achievement. It would be no more of a problem then the intense heat generated on the end of a Nuclear Tipped Boring Machine (see Bechtel Patent).

[Hiram]

Posted by Gestalt (here)
I you have jump rooms....why would you need intercontinental subways? This makes no sense.

Information and technology gets compartmentalized. If we have anti-gravitics, why use Jet aircraft? Just because you have a DUMB, doesn't mean in the slightest that everyone who works in that DUMB suddenly has access to all of the neat toys.

[shybastid]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6471241.stm
60 meters a day.....2000 employees HEH
I call B.S.
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Bases.html

We've all seen the pictures of the big machines. I'll find one.http://www.amking.com/ LOL 60 meters a day my ASS Thats the old equipment.

REALLY good rumors that there is an underground submarine base in Nevada from Vandenburg Airforce base in Santa Barbera County (the Coast of california) , to China Lake Navel Base in California and Nevada...400 miles inland..
I'm not getting Booleaned by anybody for conspiracy stuff. http://www.ovid.com/site/products/to...&subsection=13

I just don't want to get arrested or deported. I grew up in Clevland, Ohio.. No aliens or illegales ever lived there.

That I KNOW of...

[grace]

everybody seems to know that these underground bases will be the PTB's tombs... so why wouldn't they know??

[Snowbird]

Interesting reading for those who care to expand their minds.

Hollow Earth Cities

http://www.2012unlimited.net/HollowEarthCities.html

Oh ye of little faith.

The article below, states that the technology was already developed in 1972 for a super-highspeed underground transit system. There's even a picture of it.


LA Times, June 11, 1972

L.A. to N.Y. in Half an Hour? 10,000-M.P.H. Tunnel Train Plan Developed


http://www.reptoids.com/Vault/Underg...nHalfnHour.htm


A Crude Map of Underground Tunnels and DUMBS

http://www.heartcom.org/200under.htm

[grrrr13]

I went through the thread and I didn't see any one speak of Philip Schneider. If you are going to talk about deep underground bases you have to check out this guy. He says he was at the fire fight at Dulcie with the big Grays while digging a DUMB. I kinda believe there is something about this guys story. He ended up being murdered, they tried to say it was a suicide. The guy knew to much and was saying to much. If any one else checks him out let me know what you think.

[Snowbird]

Posted by grrrr13 (here)
I went through the thread and I didn't see any one speak of Philip Schneider. If you are going to talk about deep underground bases you have to check out this guy. He says he was at the fire fight at Dulcie with the big Grays while digging a DUMB. I kinda believe there is something about this guys story. He ended up being murdered, they tried to say it was a suicide. The guy knew to much and was saying to much. If any one else checks him out let me know what you think.

I have heard Phil Schneider tell his story on video. The problem is that those who are normally skeptical about anything that cannot be scientifically proven, will never believe.

A Message from the ex-wife of Philip Schneider

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/ex_wifePhil.htm

[SteveX]

I don't think anyone is denying the existence of a few underground bases. To me the argument goes that they are not so prolific or at the depths mentioned.

Me Grandfather was a face worker and worked down the mines for 51 years. As I recall, his major problem was working depths beyond 1/2 a mile. Heat and ventilation becomes a major factor, which costs a lot of money to overcome.

In this day and age machinery could be automated for the depth reported. Miners or face workers could be in cooled oxygen ventilated suit but this just goes to show how much more development would be needed. The whole infrastructure for construction of so many reported bases would be massive. So much so that it would be too big to hide I would say.

[Terra]

A little while ago I did some sniffing about when I read about Manchester library here in the UK. I was astonished at how vast these mines are now.

Experts say the mine's caverns – the size of 700 football pitches - provide the perfect environment for preserving the manuscripts, which include the works of eminent academics.

Here's a few links of my findings:

A million library books to be sent down the mines

The UK's largest rock salt (halite) mine is at Winsford. It is one of only three places where rock salt is commercially mined in the UK, the others being at Boulby Mine, North Yorkshire (Home of UK Dark Matter Project), and Kilroot, near Carrickfergus, Northern Ireland.

http://www.deepstore.co.uk/downloads...D_Article2.jpg
The UK's most distinctive records management services
Video
A massive, salty filing cabinet

Why Cheshire's worth its salt
Boulby Potash Mine, United Kingdom
Science in the underworld
An Introduction to the Boulby Underground Labs

Hope it helps.. DUMB's really fasinate me. Also, RAF Rudloe Manor is worth a look if you get time.

[Hiram]

Posted by SteveX (here)
I don't think anyone is denying the existence of a few underground bases. To me the argument goes that they are not so prolific or at the depths mentioned.

Me Grandfather was a face worker and worked down the mines for 51 years. As I recall, his major problem was working depths beyond 1/2 a mile. Heat and ventilation becomes a major factor, which costs a lot of money to overcome.

In this day and age machinery could be automated for the depth reported. Miners or face workers could be in cooled oxygen ventilated suit but this just goes to show how much more development would be needed. The whole infrastructure for construction of so many reported bases would be massive. So much so that it would be too big to hide I would say.

Again, my father and Grandfather both worked in for Hecla in deep hard rock mines of up to almost 2 miles depth. Around 10,000 feet. Yes it gets hot down there, but they were able to stand it and he simply wore a tank top.

Again, the ambient heat of the rock would work to the advantage of the DUMB builders, as this heat can generate geothermic power.

Your right bout the depth though. A few hundred meters beneath the surface is all the deep anyone needs to go. Of course the transit system might go much deeper than that, but in those tubes ambient temperature would be very easy to control.

I'm not sure where the skepticism comes from on this issue. I suppose because it stretches the imagination. I mean, its probably unlikely that whole cities full of people are living down there. Possible, but unlikely. But if man CAN do something...reason stands that he WILL do it.

There are massive bases underground-thats for sure. And people are probably walking over the top of some of them.

[Tuza]

I don't think you can equate the science factor of working in tunnels, mines etc compared to say an underground base associated with ETs. Our science and degrees in man made science cannot be applied to these bases as I believe covert or black tech has been applied to these bases. The story I read, here I think, of the army or naval officer who was told to dress lightly, eventhough it was cold outside, and went down an elevator and walked into the Pine Gap base from the facility he was in the States had obviously black tech or ET tech; I say ET tech because the Government's secret facilities have and use this, so our science as we know it cannot apply.

The posts above that state that inner earth is a lot of rubbish I would like to refer them to the testimony of Admiral Richard E Byrd, United States Navy who purpurted that he was flying over the North Pole in 1947 and all of a sudden he and his radio operator were flying over different terrain and then eventually flanked by very unique craft. I cannot take credit for this link and information; thanks Mic I shall put your info here hon, if you don't mind be borrowing it from our other forum.

http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/byrdiar.html

Okay so go and do some research youngins.