Native American accounts of ET

[Ewan]

A book in my collection is entitled 'Encounters with Star People' and written by Ardy Sixkiller Clarke.



A paragraph from the back cover reads.

The stories are told by people from all walks of life. Some had graduate degrees; others had never attended school. Some were adept at technology; others had never used a cell phone, owned a computer or a television set. A few of the stories are about events that occurred before the 1947 Roswell incident, however, the majority of the events took place between 1990 and 2010.

For many of you I expect the stories within the pages will be brand new, many hold a different perspective as so many of the experiencers were not at all afraid and far more accepting of their experiences. Well worth a read if it is an area of interest.

The author has her own website,

http://www.sixkiller.com/#section-1

and I see there she has another later book entitled 'Sky People' with accounts exclusively from Mesoamerica.

The people at NAFPS (New Age Frauds Plastic Shamans)

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=1.0

did a little research on the author without apparently reaching any conclusions.

http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=3978.0

The concern seemed to mainly be did she even have a genuine Indian heritage which personally doesn't concern me as the woman clearly believes she has and is hardly using it as a means of generating revenue.

[MorningSong]

Thanks for the info! Iìll put that book on my wish list.

Some time ago, this thread was created:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Star-People--

Here's a Veritas Pt 1 interview with Dr. Clarke:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=QYQjl1csLsQ

[Open Minded Dude]

This one deserves an update after 10 years passed.

Ms Ardy Sixkiller Clarke now has not one but four of these books out. And one of them is also about Mesoamerica where she travelled a route through 4 countries always with a tour guide and native (Belize, Honduras, Guatemala, and Mexico).

Many of the indigenous tribal people in Mesoamerica see themselves still as 'Maya', so she calls them this way in the books. In North America she uses the term American Indians instead of Native Americans, also in self-reference as a half-Cherokee woman. She also claims that many of them call themselves this way (although the tribal name is the first-choice label for them of course). In her work she also differentiates between on- and off-reservation ('reservation vs. 'urban') Native Americans. Therefore each group a single book is dedicated to.

Note that she is not one of the regression therapists. She just interviews people who remember all or most of this stuff without hypnosis.

Here is the list in chronological order from goodreads:

1. Encounters with Star People: Untold Stories of American Indians
2. Sky People: Untold Stories of Alien Encounters in Mesoamerica
3. More Encounters with Star People: Urban American Indians Tell Their Stories
4. Space Age Indians: Their Encounters with the Blue Men, Reptilians, and Other Star People

https://www.goodreads.com/author/sho...xkiller_Clarke

Dr Clarke, Professor Emeritus at Montana State University, has dedicated her life & career to working with indigenous populations. She's the author of several children's books & the bestselling 'Sisters in the Blood'. Retired from academia, she continues to work as a consultant to indigenous communities worldwide. See her www.sixkiller.com website.

Regarding her website mentioned: Not sure if she is still active or even alive since she has not yet updated her page with her latest and fourth book on the topic, anyway here it is:

http://www.sixkiller.com/

ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Dr. Ardy Sixkiller Clarke brings to the field of ufology degrees in history, English, psychology, and educational leadership and a background as a teacher, university professor, junior college and university administrator, licensed therapist and psychologist, and social science researcher. As a Professor Emeritus at Montana State University and former Director of the Center for Bilingual/Multicultural Education, Dr. Clarke, who is Cherokee/Choctaw, has worked with indigenous people for most of her career. Her first book in the field of ufology was the best-seller Encounters With Star People: Untold Stories of American Indians. She is also the author of twelve children's' books and the best-selling academic text: Sisters in the Blood: The Education of Women in Native America. She lives in the middle of the Rocky Mountains in Big Sky Montana.

As of now, I have finished two of her books ('Sky People', 'Urban American Indians') and am reading the third book ('Space Age Indians') currently half-way through. They are all page-turners! Unfortunately the very first book on reservation dwellers ('Star People') is not available as ebook (I have a Kindle and Tolino) and also out of print with a high price to purchase, but her other three books are easy to get as paperback and ebook.

So... what's my take on it?

In short:

My mind is blown and I recommend all of her books - even those (parts) not yet read.

Long version:

Even though before I have read, seen and heard a lot about 'encounters', abductions, sightings, telepathic/mind contact/influence, etc., and even had one encounter myself (but only on the astral plane) I am still impressed by the sheer number and content of the reports she has gathered over the many years. Actually, so she says, it is far over 1000 and she would have even much more with all of the non-Native-Americans who contacted her (because they read her work) also counted in.

I've also recently (and finally!) read Whitley Strieber's 'classic' Communion and started Dr. John Mack's Abduction, a lengthy but worthwhile exposé from a psychologist and scientist. Therefore I am kind of well-read on the topic (including other UFO literature and some Avalon forum threads of course) - and yet I am still totally mesmerized by her books. It's more than a topping on the cake. For me it is the 'go-to' or 'must-have' for a collection of ET encounter cases of all kinds.

So there must indeed be a special and long-standing connection between 'indigenous' people of the Americas (North and South) and 'ET/aliens', reaching back to pre-historic times perhaps. They also have lots of legends which are touched upon sometimes in the books, but the chapters are all about recent and/or childhood encounters of the indigenous contactees, as remembered.

You can further group these experiences into all kinds of categories. Some are classical abductions, some are encounters and even regular (!) visits, just like the ETs are part of the larger 'family'. Some also involve abducted animals (believe it or not: even a crocodile is witnessed to be taken on board a UFO from a lake with a 'tractor beam' and then later even brought back). In South America some women were made pregnant (not in the North though, interestingly) and then it was undone (the babies taken away again on a subsequent abduction months later).

All are the kinds of 'stories' we know already in different forms and shapes from other sources, although some are very special. Moreover here it comes with a certain quality of 'understanding' and 'history' and with a common thread that is seemingly not as pertinent to non-indigenous people(s) as to Native Americans and 'Maya' people(s).

And then there is the vast quantity of reports. Regarding quality and morals... well, you also have it all: The good, the bad and the ugly.

There is the entire range from hostile abductions or other kinds of 'force' over neutral encounters to very friendly (repeated) encounters and even healing or 'improvement' events for the contactees.

What is very common: Communication is always reported as instantly telepathic and no 'ET' speaks like we do to the contactees despite being otherwise physically present. Yet almost all encounters seem physical and leave physical imprints on bodies sometimes.

What I can conclude from what I've read so far regarding the different species and races is that we have a clear distinction:

The "good" ones really seem to be - or to be seen as - the 'Ancestors' who came here, lived here a while in very ancient times and 'seeded' this planet with the human species (or the indigenous races at least). They often are described as looking similar to the people who meet them (American Indians, Maya people). Of course, they might change appearances and we never really know how they look like in actuality.

Then there are the intruder races (Greys, Mantis/Bugs, Reptiles) who seemingly came at a later point in time, and they are oftentimes seen as more negative and the encounters are also this way (with a few exceptions though). Some in-between humanoid looking aliens are also a mixed bag of good and bad encounters.
The reptilians (as the fourth book shows) are the worst; so I guess David Icke is right after all?

Surprisingly, and new to me, there is a species of humanoid 'Blue Men' dealt with in the latest book. These beings are very benign and even saved and healed some of the American Indians, e.g. some Native Americans from combat situations fighting in Iraq or in Viet Nam. And it is not only one incidence but a few more, hence it is getting corroborated several times. The 'Blues' have a blue aura and are quite muscular and 'good-looking', they are only males, although again, we can't be sure how they really look. Maybe they are energy beings just appearing this way to humans.
As a sidenote, can it be that in mankind's fictional works and culture they might have become one of these?


However as another side note regarding blue beings: None of the indigenous contactees ever mentioned any Blue Avians.
Humph ....

Ok, sometimes I can't help being silly.

Jokes apart, of course there is always the general question of credibility and plausibility. Each reader has to make up their own minds about this.

So we need to ask ourselves as open-minded skeptics: Can all or some of the reports come from by either (a) lying / pranking or (b) delusional people? I think most of it is not, although we cannot rule it out in some examples. Each case is different, each abductee or contactee is different with a different background story.

The author describes the people well and how she met them (often via intermediaries such as acquaintances or family members) and how they were 'convinced' to share their experiences They also seemed quite down-to-earth and normally minding their own daily business. Hardly anyone seemed crazy or drugged. What's more: Most of her interviewees did not even want to be interviewed in the first place and reveal their secrets. So none was out for money or fame and many were even very reluctant to come out.

I also would say that the author Ms Clarke is very credible and she only reports accurately what she was told (using a tape recorder); she is just the researcher and reporter without evaluating and asking for proof. She also does it all anonymously, never publishing names and addresses, a principle kept up throughout and agreed upon with the interviewed persons beforehand.

Indigenous people in general are said to be secretive about their relation to ET stories (which they call Star People, Star Ancestors, or Sky Gods) and other spiritual / metaphysical experiences and legends, all stays in-group and is being sealed off from outsiders, sometimes even between tribes.

I admit I still had 'a few' problems with some of the accounts as they stretch your imagination and some even seem to be taken straight out of Hollywood sci-fi movies. But then again: aren't Sci-fi and Fantasy movies mirrors of the larger reality and channelled knowledge, maybe? So I leave some of it open for me. Most accounts though seemed quite believable, as are the people telling them. All is fascinating.

Here is the author in a 2015 YouTube interview by the Skeptiko podcast after her first book was out:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=w7gQSpQz8MI

A transcript from the Skeptiko website if you are more keen on reading:

https://skeptiko.com/ardy-sixkiller-...ufo-phenomena/

About her this book that is being talked about (the one that's now hard to get):

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...th-star-people

A noted American Indian researcher offers a collection of intimate narratives of encounters between contemporary American Indians & 'Star People'. The 1st-person accounts, described as conscious experiences & recalled without hypnosis, reveal a worldview that unquestionably accepts the reality of Star People. The stories also reveal cultures that almost universally regard them as ancestors, which allows for interactions that take place without fear & helps explain the uniqueness of the experiences. The stories are told by people from all walks of life. Some had graduate degrees; others never attended school. Some were adept at technology; others had never used a cell phone, owned a computer or a tv. A few of the stories are about events that occurred before the 1947 Roswell incident, however, the majority of the events took place between 1990 & 2010. This book significantly contributes to the knowledge about UFOs from a group that until now have mostly remained silent. Readers will likely never look at the UFO phenomenon in the same way again.
Dr Clarke, Professor Emeritus at Montana State University, has dedicated her life & career to working with indigenous populations. She's the author of several children's books & the bestselling 'Sisters in the Blood'. Retired from academia, she continues to work as a consultant to indigenous communities worldwide. See her www.sixkiller.com website.

[Casey Claar]

Thank you for the update on the thread, OMD.

There is a clear signal and strong connection I feel when I look at Dr. Ardy Sixkiller Clarke. It is like looking at myself.

Indigenous/Native People's have been present from day 1 of my shifts into expanded states (ie: OBEs), so there is something in this that connects with me, though I have discovered precious little relative to detail. I have not read the books by Ardy as of yet, but you do have me now wanting to. I appreciate the recommendation.

If anyone is interested in hearing more interviews of Ardy, these are two my friend Wendy had with her:

Interview 1 ( 2016 ) Interview 2 ( 2021 )

[Casey Claar]

On a side note, I just asked Wendy if she had heard anything of Ardy's current well-being. She shared that she had a serious health issue come up a couple years ago and has not heard anything since. Please send your love and blessings Ardy's way. Whether still here with us on the planet or elsewhere I know she will feel and benefit from it.

If I learn anything new I will return to share what it is.

[sdv]

American Indian rock art and ruins may have some answers or even introduce questions that challenge the Western interpretation and dismissal of different narratives about the history. Desert Drifter is a YouTube channel of a hiker/climber who would go hiking and look for and explore ruins, rock art and artifacts lying around. Some of the ruins are built into a natural crack on a cliff or on top of a stone column ... impossible to get to without a high level of skill and some kind of climbing equipment. It does not make sense, to me, that they were trying to protect themselves from other hostile tribes. Same in Turkey ... those huge underground, interconnected cities may have been used later to hide from hostile tribes, but you don't protect yourself from attack by using all the manpower in your tribe to spend years building an underground city.

Most of the Native American rock art is about hunting animals or crops grown (like corn), but there are odd figures that appear on many panels. It is interesting to look at the pictures of these figures and elaborate rituals and imagine interpreting them using the ET story. Same for the small but secure enclaves built into cliffs ... There is nothing that definitively proves the conventional nor ET story as being the right one, but all the evidence can convincingly be used to 'prove' either story, and perhaps a mixture of both is where the truth is.