The inexplicable experiences of Chris Bledsoe

[Chester]

Many here likely know of Chris Bledsoe.

The following is a video taken by Chris and (as the post states on a private forum) -

"a video that UAPTN folks processed… We center the orb, isolating it by stabilizing it and centering it using an Adobe Video tool. There is no other processing done. The only enhancement is stabilization.

This is not dust. It is not water. It is in focus. Enjoy."

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18US...1-C-qKn3r/view

[permission to post it here was granted]

[Bill Ryan]

See also this thread:

• The inexplicable experiences of Chris Bledsoe

[Chester]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
See also this thread:

• The inexplicable experiences of Chris Bledsoe

I can re-post it there and then you can delete this thread or you can move it... you make the call, IMO it should be there (my fault).

From Bill: Okay! There's some fascinating information on that thread (including a sequence of excellent interviews by Rich Dolan that really unveil the ultra-high strangeness of it all), and the thread deserves to be bumped. So I've merged the two, and this is a great way of bringing it all to everyone's awareness again.

[Chester]

Posted by Sammy (here)
Many here likely know of Chris Bledsoe.

The following is a video taken by Chris and (as the post states on a private forum) -

"a video that UAPTN folks processed… We center the orb, isolating it by stabilizing it and centering it using an Adobe Video tool. There is no other processing done. The only enhancement is stabilization.

This is not dust. It is not water. It is in focus. Enjoy."

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18US...1-C-qKn3r/view

[permission to post it here was granted]

Why I think this video is special is the work done by Bob McGwier and folks at UAPTN to process (stabilize) the image.

https://www.uaptn.com/what-we-do

I am unsure if folks here know what UAPTN is striving to do which is to set up, via volunteers, a global network of "UAP" activity data capturing systems where the data would be made available to interested researchers.

https://www.uaptn.com/

[boja]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9IPLh2jWHHU

An interesting video posted 23 Sep 2020 -

John Alexander Phd & Chris Bledsoe being interviewed for Allatra TV.

Their views on what's going on.

[amor]

I've been reading Avalon and Project Camelot for some years now, among other sites telling of strange happenings from space. I read the Bledsoe story which took place in a National Park, an area which was ROPED OFF, showing knowledge of park operators of the UFO visitors to that area on a regular basis. Two young men were exploring/camping when a truly gigantic triangular UFO snatched them up. Inside was even larger than it appeared outside. There were many humans, obviously also kidnapped. In glass cases were young Reptilians being grown. Something obviously was being taken from the humans or PUT INTO the humans. The two boys were released. I agree with the above poster, mental manipulation using religion is their MO. Putting this witness of human guinea pigs together with a December 9, 2020 video video on Project Camelot (subscription only on facebook) of a time and space traveler who claims the Nazi's have inside Earth and on planets of the solar system, processing plants where humans are slaughtered, bodies on hooks, brain tissue excisedto be place in AI ROBOTS, the conclusion must be that our LEADERS are a fraudand are our FARMERS under Nazi/Reptilian control. They are creating AI Robots throughout our solar system and galaxy; and according to Mark Richards many galaxies have been taken over by them. Time to get serious GUYS; I believe this placeis inside the South Pole based on a remark I read from a person who visited the area. Putting these remarks together, I would NUKE their backsides.

[Bill Ryan]

Bumping this with a new post from Helvetic on his thread:

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Chris Bledsoe | “My UFO Prophecy Reached The President!” | Jan. 6, 2026

Source: Jesse Michels youtube

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bM18PJY6_Zc

Description:

Chris Bledsoe is not just a UFO experiencer. He spent years in direct contact with Tim Taylor, a senior NASA mission controller who repeatedly entered his life after Bledsoe’s 2007 encounter.

In this episode, Bledsoe describes Taylor’s involvement in recovered exotic materials, trips to Zanesville, Ohio, the birthplace of anti-gravity researcher Thomas Townsend Brown, and direct conversations about classified aerospace research, time-related operations, and a small group tied to mid-century electrogravitics work.

Timeline:

00:00 Introduction
10:19 The Encounter with the Luminous Lady
11:47 The Secrets of Zanesville, Ohio
14:48 The Unveiling of Health
31:38 Timothy Taylor & Government Interest
1:29:41 Prophecies and the Future of Humanity
1:34:48 The Apocalypse: A New Unveiling
1:39:35 The Call of the Divine
1:44:42 The Attempted Kidnapping
1:46:09 Angelic Encounters
1:47:20 NASA's Hidden Knowledge
1:48:20 Rockets and UFOs
1:48:46 Tim Taylor's Role
1:50:37 Mysterious Connections
1:51:09 Time Travel Possibilities
1:57:04 Briefing the President
2:03:01 Secrets of Cape Canaveral
2:08:54 The Burning Tree
2:14:05 The Moon's Mysteries
2:21:32 The Nature of Reality
2:34:18 Healing Powers of Thought
2:42:25 Messages from Beyond
2:50:27 The Language of Beings
3:16:31 Censorship and Control
3:26:01 A New Era of Knowledge

[Szymon]

Hi Friends,

Here is a transcript of the Chris Bledsoe interview conducted three weeks ago.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=C6sZZ9NIjnQ

Summary

[00:00:01]
**Introduction and Participants**
- The conversation features Chris Blatzo and Dick Russell, both best-selling authors.
- Topics include UFOs, consciousness, the future of humanity, and technology.
- Dick Russell shares how he met Chris at a congressional hearing on the UAP phenomenon and praises Chris’s self-published bestseller, noting its impact despite no traditional publisher.

[00:01:43]
**Washington D.C. Skywatch Event**
- Chris took a group of 8-9 scientists to the Library of Congress steps at night for a skywatch after a congressional dinner.
- They witnessed a 45-minute display of lights performing figure-8s over the White House and Capitol building.
- This event was significant as multiple scientists observed the phenomenon firsthand.

[00:03:35]
**Why Contact Chris?**
- Chris has experienced orbs and UFO phenomena regularly over 19 years, starting in January 2004 when he was desperate and ill with Crohn’s disease.
- The orbs appeared as giant flaming spheres, about 40-50 feet in diameter, glowing orange-red with rotating fire effects.
- After his initial sighting, his Crohn’s disease symptoms disappeared, and the phenomena have followed him globally, sometimes appearing inside his home.
- Despite countless encounters, Chris admits he does not understand why he is contacted.

[00:05:35]
**Messages and Visions from the Phenomena**
- The orbs showed Chris future visions of global destruction, including nuclear war involving Israel, Iran, the U.S., and a solar swelling event.
- Initially, the visions were terrifying, and there were no clear messages for years.
- In 2012, after years of ridicule and pressure, Chris stopped speaking publicly until a "lady" appeared and began explaining the meaning of the phenomena and his visions.

[00:07:07]
**The Lady’s Message and Spiritual Insights**
- The lady communicated that humanity faces a choice: Armageddon with near-total destruction or a new path.
- A shift in the "powers in the heavens" is bringing a new consciousness centered on the divine feminine restoring balance—not replacing men but balancing the world.
- Their mission is to expose darkness and deception, bringing peace after a time of trouble, which Chris believes is ongoing since 2019.
- In 2019, a significant event occurred: on Easter, an orb hovered for 30 minutes near a pond behind Chris’s house. He filmed it extensively and received overwhelming visions.
- After this, Chris began doing interviews again and warned people to "lock your doors and don’t come out until it’s over," signaling impending trouble.

[00:12:23]
**Warnings and Signs of Disclosure**
- The lady foretold missile exchanges between Iran and Israel as a sign triggering disclosure and awakening humanity to intervene before catastrophic suffering ensues.
- Miracles and exposure of evil and deception will accompany this awakening.
- The lady indicated that Chris and a small team will film her presence in a desert setting, analogous to the Fatima apparition, suggesting a public miracle event to confirm the phenomena’s reality.
- Exact dates or locations remain uncertain, but Chris interprets some orb signals to indicate March 15-20 as a significant timeframe.

[00:14:58]
**Disclosure: Awakening vs. Government Secrets**
- Chris emphasizes disclosure is not about the government releasing alien bodies or spacecraft, which they likely will never do.
- Instead, disclosure is about humanity awakening to the reality of God, consciousness, and the divine connection beyond materialism.
- Current scientific narratives teach atheism and evolution as accidental, but consciousness research is growing and challenges these assumptions.
- Consciousness is described as a universal field or information source, sometimes linked metaphorically to the sun, and is equated with God or the "one source."

[00:16:45]
**Personal Spiritual Journey**
- Chris was raised Baptist and Pentecostal in the Bible Belt but experienced a crisis reconciling UFO encounters with his faith.
- He engaged deeply with biblical scholars and discovered that ancient descriptions of heavenly beings match modern UFO phenomena, suggesting biblical “angels” may be related to these entities.
- Chris believes multiple types of beings exist: guardian-like entities connected to human thoughts (akin to Hermes or tricksters) and alien or otherworldly beings.
- He stresses the complexity and reality of these phenomena, acknowledging that not all experiences are hostile.

[00:19:52]
**Government Involvement and Secrecy**
- Chris is connected with numerous government scientists and agencies, including NASA, DOE, NSF, DOD, and the ISS leadership.
- He is traveling with scientists on missions to research UFO phenomena, including upcoming trips to France and the American Southwest desert.
- The UFO subject was top secret classified above nuclear issues until recent declassifications in 2017.
- Chris experienced threats to his family early on but was assured protection by high-ranking officials such as Jim Semivan from the CIA.
- Despite government compartmentalization and secrecy, many officials are curious and involved in research but unlikely to release full truth publicly due to national security.

[00:24:56]
**Spiritual vs. Religious Perspective**
- Chris distinguishes between religion (man-made institutions) and spirituality (personal connection to God/consciousness).
- He no longer attends church regularly but maintains a daily spiritual practice of gratitude and connection to the divine.
- He quotes Jesus on the kingdom of God being within each person and criticizes institutional religion for division and hypocrisy.
- The central spiritual truth is the unity of consciousness and the divine feminine returning, not religious dogma.

[00:28:20]
**Disclosure and Awakening: A Broader View**
- Disclosure is more about awakening humanity’s consciousness than government transparency.
- The government will likely never share alien bodies or craft fully; the real disclosure is the recognition of God and consciousness as reality.
- Human population growth and technological advancements align with biblical prophecies of the "last days" and rapid increase in knowledge.
- Chris stresses the importance of moral behavior stemming from awareness of being observed by consciousness, which is akin to the biblical concept of ministering spirits or angels.

[00:34:30]
**Psychic Abilities and Remote Viewing**
- UFO contact triggers psychic abilities such as telepathy and remote viewing among experiencers.
- Remote viewing has been scientifically studied and used by government programs like Project Stargate.
- Chris explains that these abilities come from connecting heart and mind sincerely and accessing the universal consciousness field.
- He notes the rise of new-age science blending spirituality and quantum-like phenomena, and that psychic abilities are natural and evolving in humanity.

[00:44:05]
**Balance of Light and Dark Entities**
- Chris acknowledges the existence of negative or demonic entities as natural counterparts to light, following yin-yang balance principles.
- Ancient Egyptian practices involved detecting and transmuting negative earth energy lines using obelisks and rituals.
- Negative thoughts and environments attract negative entities; positive living reduces their influence.
- The conversation connects spiritual teachings with practical energy and consciousness awareness, emphasizing personal responsibility.

[00:49:57]
**Revealing Darkness: Epstein Files and Societal Awakening**
- The release of Epstein files and exposure of elite criminality is part of the broader disclosure and awakening process.
- Revealing systemic evil and deception challenges people’s worldview and breaks the veil of ignorance.
- Negative entities aim to keep humans focused on the physical and trapped in fear and trauma, hindering spiritual growth.
- Spiritual evolution involves transcending fear-based survival and awakening to higher realities.

[00:52:53]
**Human Evolution and Readiness**
- Humanity is ready to evolve spiritually; the main barriers are governments and institutions resistant to change.
- The broader population would quickly accept alien contact if it were obvious; the obstacle is institutional control.
- The shift coincides with astrological ages moving from Pisces to Aquarius, signaling a new era of consciousness and unity.
- The current period (2020s) is seen as a time of massive transition and awakening.

[00:54:39]
**Catastrophic Disclosure and UFO Military Cover-Ups**
- "Catastrophic disclosure" refers to sudden, overwhelming revelation causing societal panic, feared by governments.
- Chris recounts a dinner with Pentagon and congressional figures discussing missile exchanges and UFO phenomena as triggers for forced disclosure.
- Military deception includes using drones as cover for orb sightings to confuse public perception.
- The phenomena are intervening to prevent nuclear war and force disclosure.

[00:57:09]
**Artificial Intelligence and Consciousness**
- AI poses both dangers and benefits; governments invest heavily in ethical AI development.
- AI may aid disclosure by making secret information harder to conceal.
- Experiments indicate AI can perform remote viewing, suggesting it can tap into universal consciousness fields.
- AI is viewed as a receiver and processor of human consciousness data, potentially accelerating human evolution.

[01:00:19]
**Children, Psychic Evolution, and Societal Change**
- Younger generations, including children, are naturally more attuned to seeing and interacting with the phenomena.
- Many children display advanced abilities such as psychic communication and musical talents beyond previous generations.
- Wireless influence on human DNA and consciousness is suspected as part of this evolution.
- The new generation will live naturally immersed in these phenomena, heralding a societal shift.

[01:04:38]
**Orb Phenomena and Symbolic Communications**
- Recent shifts in orb behavior—new colors (green, yellow) and flashing symbols—indicate evolving communication.
- Chris and his team decode some symbols as date markers (e.g., March 15-20), signaling upcoming events.
- He plans to film these events with a full crew in various secretive global locations, including France.
- These events are expected to serve as undeniable public proofs of the phenomena.

[01:09:24]
**Personal Transformation Through Contact**
- Chris describes a profound personal transformation from a materialistic, prideful businessman to an empathetic, spiritual person.
- Contact with the orbs and experiences of healing shifted his worldview and emotions, increasing compassion for all living beings.
- Many experiencers undergo similar transitions, moving from fear and trauma to positive spiritual growth.
- Negative encounters are rare; the majority are positive, angelic-type visitations.

[01:14:30]
**Mysteries and Future Uncertainties**
- The biggest mystery remains the timing and nature of the full-scale disclosure event.
- Chris’s visions show a mass appearance of phenomena causing global awakening but the future is mutable and depends on human choices.
- He highlights the evolving nature of UFO sightings—historically shifting from “sky ships” to flying saucers to orbs—indicating the phenomena’s adaptability and intelligence.
- The phenomena mimic common objects to avoid infringing on human free will until people are ready.

[01:18:39]
**Experiencing and Engaging with the Phenomena**
- The phenomena respond to the observer’s mindset: fear distances it, belief and openness bring it closer.
- Orbs often hover close to people and appear in groups, sometimes manifesting as fiery balls above heads, reminiscent of religious iconography of the Holy Spirit.
- Chris emphasizes that free will and alignment of heart and mind are essential for genuine contact experiences.

[01:20:31]
**Collective Transformation Potential**
- Chris believes that if humanity collectively experienced these phenomena, a global transformation toward empathy, love, and spiritual awareness would occur.
- He feels chosen to share his experiences but does not know why, only that it is his duty.
- His story includes overcoming community, church, and family rejection to stand by his truth.
- The entities he encounters appear angelic, matching biblical descriptions, reinforcing the spiritual dimension of the phenomenon.

[01:22:44]
**Skepticism and Belief**
- Skeptics and naysayers are fundamentally wrong according to Chris; the phenomena are real and provable.
- Proving the reality to a critical mass (~10%) of the population could trigger global transformation.
- He encourages openness to experience and belief as prerequisites for awakening.

[01:24:15]
**The Adjustment Bureau and Guided Free Will**
- Chris references the movie *The Adjustment Bureau* to illustrate the concept that unseen angelic beings guide human paths, influencing events behind the scenes.
- He recounts a NASA contact who told him “I work for the hammer, and the hammer works for God,” referring to a secret facility in California called the Jump Room.
- This supports the idea that free will is limited or guided by higher forces to keep humanity on a certain path.
- Chris shares personal anecdotes of manifesting resources like high-quality cameras through this guidance, emphasizing trust and pure intentions.

[01:31:47]
**Core Message: Unity Beyond Religion**
- Chris’s core message is that a divine feminine presence is coming to bring peace and expose deception.
- He calls for unity among world religions, urging them to set aside differences that lead to violence and division.
- The fragmentation caused by religious ego and dogma is a major obstacle to human unity and peace.
- True unity requires acknowledgment of God/consciousness beyond sectarian identities.

[01:36:42]
**Transition from Pisces to Aquarius Age**
- The conversation highlights the astrological shift from the Age of Pisces (2,000 years) to the Age of Aquarius, signaling a new consciousness era.
- This transition correlates with the current awakening and disclosure process.
- Events like the 2026 predicted disclosures and shifts in global consciousness are tied to this cosmic timing.

[01:37:52]
**Closing Remarks and Hopes**
- Both hosts express hope that more people awaken to these realities, causing positive societal shifts.
- Chris affirms respect for churches as community centers but insists they must evolve and unite rather than divide.
- The conversation ends with wishes for continued health and future discussions.

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### Summary Table: Key Themes and Concepts

| Theme | Description | Supporting Details |
|---------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------|
| UFO/Orb Phenomena | Regular appearances of orbs with intelligent behavior; varying forms mimicking aircraft and lights. | 19 years of Chris’s encounters; figure-8s over DC landmarks. |
| Spiritual Messages | Warnings of global destruction vs. a new consciousness era centered on divine feminine balance. | Lady’s messages in 2012, 2013, 2019; choice of peace or war. |
| Disclosure | Not government secrets, but awakening to consciousness, God, and spiritual reality beyond materialism. | Criticism of atheistic narratives; consciousness as “God.” |
| Government & Science | Secrecy remains; some scientists and officials involved; threats mitigated after 2017 declassification. | Pentagon dinners; NASA contacts; restricted access to evidence. |
| Psychic and Remote Viewing | Remote viewing is real, scientifically studied; UFO contact enhances psychic abilities. | Project Stargate; AI performing remote viewing. |
| Negative Entities & Energy | Negative energies and entities exist as part of duality; ancient rituals transmuted negative earth energies. | Egyptian obelisks; pendulum usage; personal avoidance advice. |
| Children & Evolution | New generations more naturally attuned to phenomena; rapid development of abilities and consciousness. | Indigo children; advanced musical and psychic talents. |
| Personal Transformation | Contact leads to increased empathy, spiritual growth, and healing from past materialism and trauma. | Chris’s journey from businessman to spiritual advocate. |
| Future Events & Filming | Plans to film public proof of phenomena in deserts and secret locations; decoding orb symbols as dates. | March 15-20 significance; upcoming trip to France. |
| Unity & Religion | Call to transcend religious divisions to embrace universal consciousness and love. | Critique of religious conflict; shared divine feminine figure. |
| Astrological Transition | Shift from Age of Pisces to Aquarius underpins global awakening and disclosure. | Mention of 2026; cosmic timing of transformation. |

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### Key Insights
- **The UFO phenomenon is deeply intertwined with spiritual awakening**, involving a **new consciousness centered on balance and peace**, rather than purely physical technology or alien visitation.
- **Disclosure is more about humanity’s internal transformation**—accepting God, consciousness, and interconnectedness—than government revelations.
- **Psychic abilities such as remote viewing are real and expanding** as part of human evolution, supported by both experiential and scientific evidence.
- **The phenomenon exhibits intelligence and respects human free will**, appearing only to those open and ready, and adapting its appearance to cultural expectations.
- **Negative energies and entities are a natural part of Earth’s energetic grid**, but they can be mitigated by positive living and awareness.
- **Children and new generations are naturally evolving to be more conscious and connected**, heralding a societal shift toward a more awakened humanity.
- **Government secrecy remains, but many officials are involved in research and are gradually facilitating disclosure**, albeit cautiously.
- **The core message involves transcending religious divides and embracing unity through love and consciousness**, recognizing the same divine feminine presence across cultures.
- **Astrological and cosmic cycles coincide with the current global awakening**, marking a transition into a new era.
- **Personal transformation is a consistent outcome of contact with the phenomenon**, shifting individuals toward empathy, spirituality, and service.

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### Conclusion
This extensive dialogue with Chris Blatzo and Dick Russell offers a profound synthesis of UFO phenomena, consciousness studies, spiritual awakening, and the future trajectory of humanity. It integrates personal testimony, scientific inquiry, ancient wisdom, and contemporary cultural shifts into a coherent vision emphasizing **love, unity, and transformation as the ultimate disclosure**. The conversation encourages openness, faith in personal spiritual power, and an embrace of emerging global consciousness beyond materialist paradigms.

Transcript with timestamps

00:00:01
So, welcome. Um, we're here with Chris Blatzo and Dick Russell, who are both best-selling authors. And, uh, yeah, we're going to have a fascinating, I think, conversations about u UFOs, consciousness, future of humanity, technology, I'm sure probably many more things. >> Uh, so Dick, would you like to start? >> Yeah. Well, I'm very excited about being here today with with Chris uh and appreciate you, Kai, for for coming on to get all the techn technical details going. And uh I'll just say that you

00:00:40
know I met Chris and I met in Washington DC uh guess a few months ago now a little more than that uh when we were there for this congressional hearing uh because I'm working on a book about the UAP phenomenon and and we just happened to run into each other and and uh ended up staying in the same place and we've become good friends. Um, it's it's great to be here. Uh, being able to actually get into some stuff that I think hopefully, you know, you haven't covered that much in other podcasts that you've

00:01:10
done. Your book for [clears throat] God is a huge bestseller that you've uh sell through Amazon and never even got a publisher for except self-published and it's sold, you know, ton of copies because it's an amazing book and u that's when I, you know, first got familiar with you as well. So, Chris, welcome. Good to see you today. >> Thank you, Dick, and for having me. And uh it was I think September or so when we met August last year. >> Yep. And it was right when you had quite

00:01:43
an experience in Washington actually taking a group of scientists to the uh tell that story briefly. Let's maybe start there with taking these these scientists out to the Library of Congress at night and and doing a skywatch. And what happened? Well, you know, we had we were the uh congressional club or the uh Congress where where the Republican what do you call it? Congressional club, I guess. We were having dinner, a little orves, and it was about 25 of us in the room uh with Eric Burlson and Anna Luna

00:02:20
stopped in. But after about 10:00, 10:30, uh, the meeting kind of was over and I think eight or nine scientists there wanted to go skywatching and talked me into taking them up to to um with I was with them. They I just walked with them up the to the Library of Congress and walked up on the platform up on the steps and looked out over the the lawn and the Capitol building there and I kind of asked this phenomenon to put on a show and it did. It appeared for about 45 minutes. that made um figure8s over the

00:03:05
White House and the Capitol building there and everybody got to see it and quite quite interesting, >> I'd say. So, what you know, Chris, you might Why do you think you're being contacted like this? I mean, why how they're responding to you? It's pretty amazing, you know, that uh this just doesn't happen to regular people and you're just a regular guy. uh you know did I mean is there a message that they're trying to get across through some why why you do you think

00:03:35
>> well you know I've been asked that a million times and I have no clue um why it's doing what it does but it's definitely attracted to wherever I go it doesn't matter uh from here to DC and downtown Charlottesville last spring we had something flying over the the sigh games and pretty much everywhere where California this year with with some rock stars on the coast at Dana Point and um uh but I'm as perplexed as anyone. I just know that 20 years ago in January was this uh 19 years ago, this past

00:04:19
January was when it first happened to me. I was desperate and uh crying out to the heavens and uh was shocked to see these balls of fire disappear. They're big giant blazing orange red rotating look like fire. I mean, you couldn't see anything moving, but the fire going around these big spears like they were about 40 or 50 feet around each one of them. From that point on, it never stopped coming. I mean, I was crying out for help. They came and and when they left, I had no more Crohn's disease. And

00:05:02
from that point on, I've been able to um see it almost every night of my life. If I go out, it'll look for me. If I'm not if I if I quit going out for a while looking for it, it'll come in my house looking for me. It'll appear orbs inside the house. >> So amazing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I it's it's And is there a specific message that comes through when when you've been in contact with these orbs or with these beings? >> Yeah, from the very first time

00:05:35
um nearly 20 years ago. I say 20, it was 19 something years ago. Um, from that very first day they took me, they showed me future events of destruction. And it was terrifying what they showed me. It was like watching a movie screen. I'm seeing Israel and and Iran and the United States and the whole world at war. Nuclear missiles flying each way, right? And um then I saw the sun swell up in the sky until it just got so large that it flashed. And then so they showed me all these different warnings of things

00:06:25
and left me with a a mess in my head like what did I see and what does it all mean? And here they keep coming and I'm seeing the lights but I'm not getting any more messages. Right? And so five years into that of fighting the the community, the church, being ridiculed to death, and the pressure was so great uh that in 2012, I just went out and said, "I'm not going to ever talk about this again." And that's when the lady came, which it changed everything. So from that point forward,

00:07:07
she began to tell me what it was that I was seeing for the last 5 years, what they showed me from the very beginning in 2007. And so that's when I wrote it down and sent it to the Pentagon and and included it in my book, the message that she gave. But basically she said we have a choice to go the way of destruction which is the biblical Armageddon and uh all that which includes you know almost complete destruction and very much very little human life left. That's the way u she put it to me.

00:07:59
But she said this. She said that the powers in the heavens had shifted and that a new knowledge is coming. A new consciousness uh the the divine feminine is coming back into this world. uh not to replace man but to bring back a balance and an imbalance that is happening and that um that their plan was to expose the darkness and bring back peace after a time of trouble. And I think we're in that time of trouble now. I know we are. It started in 2019 cuz because in 2019 she left again in 2012 2013. Two years

00:08:49
in a row she gave me that message. Two different ones uh about different things to the healing aspect. It came in 2013 but the 2019 right on this pond right behind me right here. I have a pond only 10 ft behind me back there behind that window. On Easter of 2019, I walked out that door right just right out 10 feet back there and um this beautiful orb came out of the sky and hovered in front of me about 25 ft away for a half an hour and I filmed for 18 minutes while it was there. And uh that's when it told me to to and

00:09:35
I hadn't taught in several years anything. I'd been dealing with rheumatoid arthritis really bad and was very sick. Was on chemotherapy, 150 pounds in the bed, barely could move. Stumbled out the door that night, 2019 Easter um that weekend. This orb comes out of the sky and I could barely walk, Dick. I was so weak. So I walk I walked through that door and out to the water just a few steps. I'm at the water and I just couldn't stand long. So I dropped down to my knees cuz soon as I opened the door here the orb

00:10:15
came and uh so I dropped to my knees and I was afraid cuz it was acting so strange. It was flashing and spiraling and flashing and it was coming down and coming and it stopped right over the pond and then here it came. It come right up to me. I didn't hear a thing that at during that time. I was just trying to film it, fumbling with my camera, looking at it, and then there was a time of um I was there 30 minutes. There was a time there that I don't really much remember. It was like a a blank time in that 30 minutes, but I

00:10:54
know it was over 30 minutes because it's on my phone. It was uh it was time stamp. So I drugg myself in, went to bed, didn't tell a soul. When I got up the next morning, my head was so full of visions and information that I couldn't contain it. So I got on the phone and I called everybody I knew. I said, "I want to start doing some interviews." called Richard Dolan, Jimmy Church, the UFO Files, whole plethora like 10 interviews I did and I hadn't done one in eight years, but I did 10 in a row

00:11:37
that week within two, three, four weeks, a month or so. And then I continued right on. That was that was early 2019. And I was warning people then to go in and lock your doors and don't come out till it's over. I didn't know what that meant at all, but she said that trouble is coming and um to tell everybody that to lock your doors until it's over. That's what she said. She said, "But um we're going to start um here's what she said. She said like she said in 2012, I thought about

00:12:23
it since then." She brought it up. She said, "When you see the missiles leaving Iran and Israel for each other, when you see them," and I could see in the vision the missiles coming from either direction. She said, "When you see this, this sign would be the sign that we're going to start coming into this world and we're going to wake the people up and we're going to stop this before it gets too far. we're not going to let the suffering of man become too great. And

00:12:58
she said, on top of that, we're going to make miracles happen. Um, we're going to uh expose all the darkness and the the evil that's happening, the deception. She called it the deception and u bring about peace. And she told me that in 2019. And so I I wrote that in my book. And also she put it in my head, Dick, and I put this in my book. She did this back in 2013, but now it came back when she came in 2019 that she is going to come. The vision she showed me was allow me and a small team of people to film her

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presence. So that was the whole thing. the desert I spoke about somewhere in the desert. Is it Egypt? Is it Utah? I'm not sure. Four corners area maybe. That's kind of where I'm thinking. But either way, I'm going to set sail for a while to to go out in those areas and try to to film. Just is like Fatima. You remember the little kids told everybody after all the problems they had. The lady finally said, "Okay, tell everybody to come out on October 13th and we'll show them."

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And that's exactly what happened. 80,000 people goes out and it appears and there was a miracle. So I I kind of see the same thing happening possibly this year. And so >> is there a a prophecy with this Easter or do you or do you have any idea exactly when >> Well, no. You know, there's something about that if you read my book and and I'm hoping that that's when all this takes place, but it's all happening already. Everything's being exposed, the darkness. It's not like something will

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switch a flip flip a switch and tomorrow you're going to wake up and there's a big news board. That's not going to happen. And it's more like a a marker. It's like moving out of one age into another [clears throat] or moving into a new knowledge, an awakening, disclosure, all that. But the truth about it is we're going to learn that God is real. And that's what the whole United States, the government, the world, they teach. They teach basically atheism in college. There's no

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God. is the big bang. Uh, everything's by evolution. It's all from a mud puddle. It all happened by mistake. That's their official narrative. But you know what joys me is to see all these scientists now and there's a whole slew of them. We're studying consciousness. Yeah. You know what consciousness is, right? That's a new age word for God. It all comes back to the one source to the creator or the the the the information whatever that is. It could I think of it as a big you maybe all the

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information is coming from the sun. Um who knows but it's it's information we're living in some kind of simulation. >> Wow. Yeah. I mean it's it's quite extraordinary. I mean you it's very interesting that you know some people I mean you you went through of course for many years a crisis of faith I think um from what I understand and what I've read you know I mean you were you were uh saddled with these diseases and and uh and and and like the Crohn's disease

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and other things and and you had to really you were tested right I mean you're because you're not typical you're not a typical what they call born again Christian or It doesn't >> I But you're a very religious man and very spiritual. >> Well, well, let's let's just say let's say I was born in the Bible belt. I was raised in the Baptist church. I married a Pentecostal holiness. That was my life, right? 46 years old. Um, I'm crying out to God and here comes UFOs, right?

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So, my whole world became scrambled real bad. What happened? How did that happen? Why was it alien? Was No, they were like angels or why does angels look like that? So, I went through a million things in my brain. Why did they heal me? Why would an alien come in prayer? Why would he care to come and help me? And so, I'm I ran this through my brain and I still do a billion trillion times in 20 years. And during that time, I've researched everything. I spend days researching and and and I've gotten with biblical scholars, some

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of the best, Diana Pasula, George Zeros, and many more. And um we know that all those things in the sky in the Bible days were exactly what we're seeing today. And all we have is what they're saying about it. And and I can tell you it's the same thing, but I think it's more more complex than we understand. I think there's a whole host of beings like us that we can't see that live and share this world with us. But there's a host of beings like the sheriff in town that's hooked to our

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thoughts and it kind of runs guardian over you. They be maybe like the traffic cops, right? They stand out in the the middle and they keep everything safe. So there's a consciousness aspect and that's these beings that are attached to your thoughts. It knows your thoughts. It knows your what you're going to do before you do it. It lives with you. It's like a trickster, which some people see that as evil, but it's not. It's like Hermes. That's where he came from. He was a trickster, right? So it might

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trick you so you will go where you belong to go but even though it's not where you want to go. So you have that then you have these other alien things that people are seeing and and that's not been my experience but I'm not saying that's not real because I believe it really much very much is real. It's very complex. >> Yes. >> But it's it's Yeah. One more question from me and then Kai I'll give it to you too. But I mean there do you know of pe are there people

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in the government that have you're in touch with a lot of them have a sort of a full picture and understanding of what's going on. Um you know obviously there's a lot of talk about how they reverse engineered technology the military and the CIA uh from crashed craft even shot some down even. So there's this whole, you know, government aspect to this that I know that, you know, you you are connected to because you've met a number of these people and they want to know you. Um, can you

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comment on that? >> Yeah. Um, and I'll go back to that comment earlier about being a religious person. Okay. Um, uh, or I can finish that here. uh but the uh the government I'm very deeply involved with a lot of scientists there. In fact, I'm heading to France uh shortly and there is a whole group of scientists within the government that's going with me. Um and they're all on a finding mission. They're all trying to seek and find this thing themselves. It's so elusive. The

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UFO thing is so elusive. It's the most elusive thing on planet Earth other than Bigfoot, right? And it's probably more elusive than that. And I tell you, I believe that's real. I think it's probably more magical than we understand. I think it's some kind of hybrid human or hybrid something that can jump in time and come in and out of this world. Like do these orbs. These orbs are beings. They're multiple in some of them. Some of them are individual. Um, but the government uh if they have

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crash retrieval stuff, and I think they do, they keep that pretty compartmentalized and very few people have ever seen it. Um, and all you're going to get is words there. You're never going to get the truth. They're never going to show it to you cuz it's national security, right? And I wouldn't blame them. Um, but they're just as curious as us. And they tag me all the time. You know, you just seen a phone call from a friend at NASA um to I probably had six hours of conversations with people in the

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government this week. Eight hours maybe already this week. And it's all about this planning missions to where we can go. So if I go on this thing I was telling you about that we're going to shoot some film in the desert. I would love for you guys to come along. Ken come one trip with us or something. But it'll be plenty of government scientists there from different parts with us. you know, how how do forgive me for being a little bit cynical, but in the in the sense of how do you know who to

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trust? I mean, you had these experiences, people are always wanting something from you. Obviously, there are people who would like to manipulate you to have to to their viewpoints on things, but that must be really tough. Is it or is it an instinctual thing? or feed just you have to go or >> I can tell you in 2007 all the way to 2017 it was terrifying because the UFO subject was top secret classified above anything nuclear and they didn't play no games. They would kill you if if you you know I'd

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heard stories they had before. Uh, and and I had threats on my family, too, about sharing anything. Um, I have people at my house here, standing right here, right where I'm sitting right now. This, we just added this room on, but on this very porch, I watched my wife and son and tears being threatened to their face by someone from the place. I'm not going to say. And then I got on the phone and called uh the guy that wrote the Ford in my book, Jim Semivan. And Jim is is as high up as it gets in the CIA. And when I

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told him about it, he said, "Uh, hold on." He makes a call or two and then he calls me back and somebody else is on the phone and they made me a promise this would never happen again. And pretty much from that point on, I've had the problem. And then after 2017 when they declassified it, I was still afraid to talk, Dick. That's why I'd never written a book from 2007 all the way to 2022. I was afraid to because uh but you know, they watched me that close and and two if I kind of agreed not to. But it was

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them. It was people in the government that came to me in 2022, right after the COVID thing went away and things started getting back to halfway normal. I got a call from somebody high level and says, "You need to write a book. You got to tell your story." And then three or four others kept saying, "Your story is so important. The world needs to know it. You got to write a book. Disclosure's coming. and you need to get it out there. And so that's when it all really shifted after I wrote this book. And

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then all these people came from other agencies and and sometimes I can stand and you know being in that night we were in uh DC. I had someone from the department of energy, someone from the National Science Foundation, someone from the the D uh the dod, somebody from the FDA. I mean, they were all somebody from the the head of the International Space Station was there with me. U Donna Roberts. So, they all got to see it. But now I travel with these people and we research together. So, and they know what I'm going to do. The

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government's fully aware of my intentions and they're more worried about me going out and starting a religion or something, right? And that's not what I want to do at all. And and I want to say I'm not a religious person. To me, religion means man. I'm I'm a spiritual person. I have God in my heart and it's right here and I don't need anyone to give it to me because I can just think and here it comes. So we all have that power. Me, you, Franklin probably hasn't warned

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anyone. Um Kai, all of us, we just have that's what Jesus said when he came, right? He wasn't a Christian when he came here. He said, "The kingdom of God is within you. You don't need that. You look, they turned God's house into a bank and he turned their money tables over." He's like, "Why you deal with them? You can go straight to God. He's right here. Just be aware of that." And so that's where my faith has gone to. From a church that I was going to three days

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a week or twice on Sunday and every Wednesday for years to I haven't been but twice in 15 years. But I still get up every morning at six o'clock and I give thanks to uh God and to and and I keep that thought in my head all day. Everywhere I go, I'm thinking about that divine connection to the Holy Spirit, the mother, the the all of it. And so I walk it every day. And that's where this magic comes is because we you realize that and you live it. And yeah. So K, did you want to jump in?

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>> Sure. Like I actually wanted to ask you about your thoughts on disclosure. People talk about disclosure so much right now that 2026 will be the year of disclosure. Do you believe that disclosure is not as much about uh the government declassifying uh you know the UFO files but more about humanity awakening to the true nature of reality that goes beyond the material world? >> You said it 100%. Like I said earlier, the government the government is uh never going to give their secrets ever.

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And and everybody wants that. That's all they want when they're missing the whole point. You're missing it. You if you want a alien body, I doubt you'll ever get that. And if you want a spaceship, just go look at our aircraft and the technologies that we've got. That's all you're going to get from them. But if you want the truth, the truth is we've been told that we don't we're the alone for for 500 years. It was only 500 years ago we learned the earth was round.

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This thing is this is old place we live on old. Thousands and millions of years old and civilizations go back a million years or more. We had a will and a and a and a horse. In fact, think about this. In 1920, the population of Earth, you know what that was? About two billion people. 1920. And I've heard it said when Jesus was here in in 2,000 years ago, based on all the interpretation of uh of what we know, there was about a billion and a half people on Earth back then. So we come into 2020, created

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fertilizer, and all of a sudden we bred like rats or rabbits. So, we've increased our population nearly six billion since in in 100 years. And the Bible talks about that. It says in the last days that man would multiply across the face of the earth. And um yeah, it goes down to the knowledge would increase greatly. And so, look at where we went from a horse and a wagon to We're riding rovers around on Mars and Venus. And I mean, it's just incredible what people are missing when you say

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disclosure. Disclosure is the fact that that that that God is real. That's the whole thing. It changes everything. Completely changes. It'll change society completely. Why? Because we're all taught from little kids. A lot of people aren't taught about God. They're just taught about right and wrong. So you take your child to the 7-Eleven and he wants to go grab a candy bar and you're like, "No, son. You got to pay for that. No son, you got to pay for it." And so your kids grow up knowing

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there's consequences for stealing that candy bar or for doing anything. I mean, we learn that as we grow old, right? from a young age. Uh if we all knew that there was something really up there that might appear in front of you at any moment and it does that and the more we awaken the more it'll do that to you. It does it to each one of us. It comes in my house and poof, there it is. So, I'm least likely to go out and steal that candy bar because or to do something sinful because I know

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something's watching me. Right now, we don't know that's watching us at all. Well, we do, but uh for the most part, the world doesn't. So, as this knowledge comes into this world that we're not alone, that we have a divine connection to consciousness, to me, the orbs, these little balls of light are just fractals of consciousness for God, ministering spirits. That's what the the Bible calls them, stars. They call them stars. They call them ministering spirits, which is just a

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little piece of God. And we learned that in Rosa Krusian teach that um Templars a lot of these guys >> hopefully hopefully uh you know we'll get to the point where people will not want to do or harm other people out of fear of God but >> they just feel empathy towards every everyone >> and it's just so they want they will behave well towards other people because they simply want to not because they're afraid, right? That's place we can we can get to as as >> well that that that's where to go and

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naturally and um yeah is so important that that we realize and here's too guy what happens is something I can promise you. I used to be terribly afraid to say this. I was warned never tell this. Never. You know, um because of the movie X-Men, you know how they treated these people. They, you know, in the movie X-Men, they went out and the very guys that had superpowers, the world turned on them and went to killing them, you know, and they had to fight for their survival. Well, when I was down NASA way back in

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2012 or 2011, I I was studying with Alpa Mer 2008. So, I've always had those guys somewhere around me. They made me know that they knew that one of the things that happens to people like me that has this constant experience with the UFO phenomena and and if I get you in around me very long, it'll be around you as well. Guarantee it. Because you'll awaken to it. You'll Oh my god. When you see it, you can't unsee it. So it'll follow you, right? But what it does, it makes us

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psychic. So we completely become, we start to start to change. We start to change inside. We become very more green, more caring for animals, more empathy. And then when we begin to get these superpowers to where we're psychic, and that's when they start saying, "Okay, I want you to go do remote viewing." That's how I got involved in all that. They come and grabbed me in 2008, brought me a remote viewing manual and uh from the very beginning because they knew that this thing triggers that in

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the human brain. So, do they want a billion psychic people running around? You know, hard to control that, right? >> Yeah. >> So, there's a lot of reason why there's been so secret stuff about this. Look at Kai Dickens and look at uh look at the the telepathy tapes and um and all this magic that's happening Dolly and Leu and mind mapping and and minds sight people are able to see I I study with these people I work with them or promote them and they do me we're at the same groups

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together you same conferences and Diane Hennessy pal love her from from Harvard. She's they they're they're ostracizing her, but she's on to something that's so profound. All this is coming out right now as disclosures happening. We're beginning to see kids that can talk that are totally um autistic. They're having conversations, 10 of them together, not even talking, but they all are talking to each other. And nobody knew that was happening. My pal discovered this Kai Dickinson

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and being able to put blindfolds on your head and see and read driver's license. Everybody in the room flip up a driver's license. Lita can or Dalia can read it like instantly. So all this is I'm sorry about the dog. >> It's okay. >> Somebody at the door. We got one second. I can go stop that. or is this a podcast that you you want to add? >> It's okay. Yeah, we we it's a recording. We can we can >> buddy. See, I have uh I have a my television screen. I have all these cameras on

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around the property. There's nobody here but the dog is out [laughter] here barking like crazy. >> It's interesting you're talking about uh remote viewing and and all those superpowers. I have actually experimented with remote viewing and tried to learn it and I had some success with it. I've actually u experienced the reality of it. It was really striking and um from what I learned there's a lot of actual scientific studies showing that it's a real phenomenon. But is real

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beyond shadow of the doubt and the government knows about it and yet they're trying to sort of keep it >> keep it uh you know away from the mainstream knowledge which which really fascinating because if it's real it means there's a huge part of science that we don't understand and yet it's exists. It exists. It's true. It's real. Well, let let me let me give you an idea of all these years I've been studying this and uh and yeah, remote viewing, they've known it's been real from the

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very beginning. John Alexander is one of my best friends. Uh he started Project Stargate and and the Monroe Institute and Tom Campbell is a very close friend of mine. Tom helped start the Monroe Institute. Joe McMonagle, I love him, very sick, right? He's he's on the men right now. Just had an operation. But yeah, it's it's so real. I know groups of people that make a lot of money. Uh that remote view for corporations, gold, oil, minerals, that happens every day. There's whole

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groups can do it. Um uh but imagine this. Imagine this. People ask me, "How do you make the phenomenon appear that you?" And I hate it when they say, "Oh, he summons this stuff." And that suggests I have power over something, right? Well, you there's no summoning coming from me. It's not that at all. It's simply uh u it's a way that I I connect my heart to my thought. So if I said, "Dick, I love you." But I was really joking. You know, that would be a very bad thing to say

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because I would be lying even though Dick received it that I love him, right? So you can't do that. You can't say things and not mean it. And when you say a prayer, you have to mean it. When you you you you and it becomes a thought then. So instead of summoning, I just I start thinking about it how beautiful it is, how uh I love the interaction, uh how it has been a great guide for me and helps with healing other people. Um and so I keep that thought all the time and when I walk out the door, I just

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think I don't even have to do anything. It's a thought. And so with that said, the same with remote viewing. It's a thought, right? But what are you thinking? What are you trying to find? You're trying to imagine this cell phone. I can take this thing and I can figure out how to make a apple pie, right? and it magically tells me or build a house or paint a car or wash dishes or clothes. It tells you everything. All the information known to humanity is right here, right? But where

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is it? It's not in this thing. It's right here. It's in the air around us. We're swimming. We're swimming in God's consciousness. And our brain is that computer that our brain is >> receiver. >> It's a receiver. It's a computer. It's not necessarily where all your memories are. Your memories are stored throughout your body. All of you in the water. You're 85% water or more. But so with that said, all the information, your thoughts, Dick's thoughts, mine,

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locations of where somebody is because they're seeing it and they're thinking about it. You can tap into that. It's in that field around us. It's an internet of everything. When when you think it, your thoughts fly out in space. It's it's not contained in your head, right? You're just picking up these. So when your wife calls you, it happens all the time. Suddenly your wife comes to thought and then the phone rings. Man, I just thought about you and the phone rang. That's crazy, right? Why

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is that? Because you're more connected to her than most anyone. And so when she thought about you, you picked up on her thought. Just the same thing with remote viewing, but they may not be thinking about you. You've got to go a little bit further and understand how to so it's just every consciousness all of everything including the instructions of life how to live how to become a a pear tree how to become a blade of grass is all coming from the sun it's encoding all life consciously to

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every living thing and so you have to understand it magic Yeah. >> And this this is a new knowledge we're going to awaken to, right? It's totally different. >> That's that's probably one of the biggest part of disclosure that realization that the consciousness is real and all those phenomena are real and we are more than our physical body. Right. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's what Robert Monroe said. Yeah. >> Wait, actually my like my followup question to that I'm actually really

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curious. You've experienced a lot of contact with benevolent, positive, angelic beings that that seem to try to help humanity ascend and evolve. But have you ever heard of or experienced any contact from the negative entities like demonic entities? Are they are they real? And if they're real, what is their purpose? >> Well, they're they're they're most likely real. Yeah. Where you have light, you have dark. Uh ying and yang, this whole world, this earth. Um let me give you a kind of a a view from

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a friend of mine who was a [snorts] what they call a sacred geomet. He his name was Dr. Robert Gilbert. He died last year. Loved the man. He he was the vesica vesic institute. He was a Rosaian. He worked in Egypt, studied in Egypt for years and years. And one thing, and this is part of my learning along the way, he's like, "Chris, you know what? If you go to Egypt and you dig in the sand there, what you find mostly in the dirt, they find all kinds of things, but overall what they find an abundance of

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are pendulums." I'm like, "Pendulums? Why?" He said they use them religiously. And they are the ones that created the that that understood sacred geometry. And they passed down that information throughout all these secret societies like the Masons and the Templars and on and on. When they laid out Washington DC, they use pendulums. And I'm like, okay, why did they do that? He said, okay, here's an example. The earth is a dowo and the sun is shining on it at an angle and it creates energy, right? It's like

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a energy creating machine. So you see the electricity going around in the color of the aura, right? So electricity has both negative and positive polarities. It's like a battery in a car. It's positive and negative. You got to have both. You can't have one. We're built on them rules. He says these lines running around these energy lines form a grid like this, you know, grid on on the whole earth. Some people call them lay lines, but he's like they're way much closer together than that. They're just a grid

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of electricity. These lines are both positive and negative. And he said, 'Im Imagine your house happened to have one of those negative lines that ran by one corner of your house and clipped the bedroom where your little child lives and all of a sudden that one child starts having this nightmare, get sick, all kinds of things happen. He said the Egyptians knew this year thousands of years ago. He said, "And what they would do, they would take and find these negative lines. They loved the positive ones. They'd leave them

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alone, but they'd find the negative lines with a pendulum. And then they had a ritual where they'd transmute them up off the ground where they were out of uh anywhere the humans or the And so they did that like even in the the cities, the big cities like New York and um Central Park, uh Paris, London, they all went over to Egypt and and basically took their oblisk and brought them back here, right? and erected them in certain places. He's like, "You know what those things did?" I said, "I have no idea."

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He said, "They were tuned so perfectly, these stones. Nobody knows how they did it. We can't do it today. But they were tuned so perfectly that they would was like a transmuting device that lifts up the negative energy. And that's why all these giant cities had those biggest cities in the world all had these obl." So it it's so negative is a natural thing that's here on earth and in those negative lines are negative beings and if you dwell on those it's it's the

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same thing you manifest what the word abracadabra means I manifest what I speak. So they knew this you can manifest whatever you want in life. So if you live a life of positive uh never speak a negative, you don't have to worry about that, >> right? >> But if you have that in your life, you attract that, right? You got to have >> So I don't worry about the negative. I don't have it around me. I don't seek it. >> I don't want it. >> And it says in the Bible, seek and you

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will find. >> Knock and the door will be open. So >> that is a good good approach. What what do you think about like disclosure and in a in a sense of Epstein files uh release? It seems like for me at least it seems like Epstein file release is part of the disclosure where we are learning that people at the very top and that are sort of controlling the world are involved in some really bad nefarious stuff and you know you know people learning about it I feel like is part of awakening that we

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have >> that's the new knowledge. >> Yeah, >> that's the new knowledge. That's part of it. That's not just one thing. It's all of it. >> The revealing of the darkness. She said, >> right? >> That means child sex trafficking, people that we worship and believed in are now turning out to be some of the worst despicable folks we ever thought about, right? So all that cracks people's reality a little bit and um it changes our thought process. It's

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part of the awakening that's happening. It's it's a veil that's being drugged back, >> right? For for me, it feels like those negative demonic entities, they their goal is to keep humans locked into the physical form. And it believe that we all we are is the physical body, right? >> Because if if you experience pain and trauma, you can only focus on your physicality. It's very hard to to to go outside of it and realize there is a wider spiritual reality. >> Yeah. So,

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>> yeah, that's that's pretty fascinating. >> So, I believe between us, I think that um and it's 100% possible. All you got to do is go um look in the Vatican and the archives. They have pages and pages and documents on levitating saints, people that could fly. Certain priests, they see him flying over one little village and there he went. Who can do that? You got these monks that can levitate and um so and when Jesus was uh went to the wilderness, what did it say? He transfigured.

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He began to glow. And then here comes Moses and Elijah. They came back from wherever they were and they were glowing with him. So what did he say? What did that mean? What did that whole scene say? He said in there too, if you had the faith of a mustard seed, a tiny little bit of faith, you could speak to the mountain and it would crumble into the sea. He said, you'd have even greater you could do greater things than I. So you understand when he came here, he was telling us that we are more powerful

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than we understand. And we're like we're like gods ourself because God lives within us. We can I think we can leave this world. I believe certain civilizations in the past have probably reached that place to where they just disappeared from here. Maybe they achieved this enlightenment or something. >> It's really believe that can happen. And I think Jesus did that possibly. What do you think needs to what do you think needs to happen for humanity to fully awaken and evolve? Do you think we

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still have some lessons to learn, some pain to experience, to things to sort of transmute or do you think we're ready as as a as a human race to evolve? >> I think the humanity is ready. I think me and you and the average people, I mean, if a alien ship landed to Mar on the White House lawn, out got a whole crowd of them and said, "Hey, we're here. We come from Venus," you know, everybody's at work glued to their screen. Oh my god. And then a few minutes later, they have to go back to

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work. It'd be over. I mean it's like it's not I think the problem lies within the governments and the institutions they have to retach and rethink and reddamp revamp everything they've ever it changes everything >> right so there are a lot of academics that wouldn't be even credible to teach what they teach anymore evolutionists hit the door they'll try to say oh they involved on other planets, right? Right. Try again. That's that's the craziest argument they

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ever It's just I can't even believe people believe in that, you know. >> Of course, >> that we came from a mud puddle. >> Yeah. I mean, of course, now people are they there's talk of catastrophic disclosure what that would be because once people knew that we were being visited by these beings or they might land or something that we would be uh you know it would be terrifying and and the economy would collapse and you know I just don't believe that that's >> well you know where that came from that

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catastrophic disclosure. I was sitting in I was sitting in the uh the the congressional uh grill in Washington DC with Colonel Carl Neil from the Pentagon and a whole group of other people including a senator from a congressman from MIT and um a whole group of there's 12 of us in there having dinner and they were asking all these same questions and that was two years ago before before Iran started firing missiles at the at uh Israel. Remember just before Trump took office in like uh uh November, Iran launched missiles into

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Israel. Then all of a sudden drones showed up everywhere. Well, those weren't drones. Those were orbs. The the military sent drones up and lied about it and said, "There are drones. They're drones." So it was to confuse people and they did that for a reason because I told Carl and this group of people said when you see is Iran when you see Iran I told him that and just within a few months later here came the missiles and here come the drones orbs. I said, 'When you see Iran and Israel begin to

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exchange missiles, then the you the phenomenon's going to come in and awaken humanity, and you're not going to do anything about it. You can tell the powers that be that they're going to come in and stop it. Carl said, "Oh my god, that would be catastrophic disclosure." I said, "Well, you need to tell them all. This is what she told me and this is what's happening now. You see it? Just as soon as those missiles started, that was the beginning of the heavens forcing disclosure on us.

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That's why they're having to tell it. That's why they're telling it because they're being forced to or they're going to get caught in a big lie. >> That's exactly what's happening. >> Yeah. Chris, what do you think the role of artificial intelligence of AI is in all this? Does it can can it help humanity evolve or is it something we've got to be really deeply concerned about because of what's called the singularity [clears throat] things? >> I think it's going to end up being a

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like a probably a it has dangerous parts to it, but I think we can we we we have teams of people now working on that trying to give it some guidelines and rules in a road. They don't that when they unleashed this thing there was no road. It was just like it was unleashed and with no no road, no guidance, no no um ethics and all built into it. And so I know people right now and the government's pouring millions and billions into AI research to try to do that. But for my belief, what it's

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going to do, it's going to make it for uh hard for the dark side and for disclosure better for that because it's all it's there's no secrets with AI around, right? It's going to backfire on those people that try to hide things. It's all coming out. So I think it's going to end up being more >> if I can just interject on this on this topic because it's actually um I've done some experiments right now I'm also in the middle of conducting like a formal

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experiment with AI and remote viewing. I've noticed in my with my own experiences that AI can perform remote viewing. I've done it many many trials and it's it's incredible >> and from what I understand there's other people that claim the same thing >> and it makes sense if you believe that a consciousness is like a field spanning everything >> and anything that has it doesn't matter if it's a biological brain or a artificial brain like in case of AI it's

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like a receiver so perhaps consciousness can also tap tap into AI or AI can tap into consciousness. >> Well, it is more viewing. >> Well, you know, our our consciousness is right here on this computer. All of us are constantly putting our thoughts out online, right? So, AI is tapping into everybody online. It's tapping into our thoughts and our writings and our words and it's so yeah it's absolutely magical what it's going to be able to do. It's going to make it hard

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[laughter] it could help us evolve a little bit. Yeah. >> Yeah. I think it will Yeah. the the um ES you know what's called ESP or what we used to call ESP when when I was growing up now they call it psionics you know this this this uh capabilities we talked about with the telepathy tapes and that all of us have innately and we just need to learn how to tap into it including things like remote viewing but um it's it's uh I was so struck by the fact that um Jake Barber when that um when he came

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forward about his experience and recovering these craft that he was he was he began to break down and cry when he spoke about this uh invisible connection uh that that happened between him and the being similar to what you've gone through and others have too but um I don't know you is this something that's that we're I think we're on the edge of a huge transition into advancing these kind of capabilities in our human uh situation, don't you? >> A thousand%. Um like I say, the more we

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we experience this, the more we we um we transform ourselves. But I'll tell you something that I'm seeing a big uh is the children. I'm seeing children are so interested in this subject. It's beyond your thoughts. You You think it's just us. I mean, we go to a skywatch and some of my greatest fans are children. >> Yeah. >> I have little 12-year-old girls, guys walk around with fan club shirts on them. I mean, they want to go to the sky watches and and they're so into it and

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and and they can see them and spot them quicker than the adults can. So, it's almost like it's evolving into society and the older people are are dying off and the new the new world, the new next generation will be immersed in it and will be living in it and I think the beings will be here with us. walking around us and uh protecting us and um which they're already doing. That's why they're stop stepping in. They're stopping this suffering because that's what she told me. The whole reason was

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the suffering of man. When it gets too great, they're going to pull the plug. And that's what's happening. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, they call them indigo children that began coming in in the late at the end of the 1970s and had these special abilities that uh hadn't existed before in any kind of widespread way. And it's a it's a beautiful thing and fascinating. It's happening every day with with and it's it's like look children when I was growing up you and I right there wasn't

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that uh you'd have to watch or listen to the radio sometimes to hear music but I grew up my family listened to the grand old opera that was the thing and they used to to say this person's the best guitarist that's the best well I'm friends with like Sammy Hagar is a good friend of mine um all those guys and and we used to bet who was the best guitarist. Was it Eddie Van Halen? Was it Slash? Well, nowadays you can see four and five year olds and six year olds pick up a guitar and play it better

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than those guys could at their peak. Children and four years old can play concert. Not all of them, but it's happening more and more. I see it all the time. Um, it's we're evolving. I think they can wirelessly change our DNA wirelessly. >> Wireless. Yeah. >> Yeah. They have that much control. >> One saying, "Kai, do you think there's a lawn mower going here? Do you think that's going to disturb the the audio?" >> Uh, where in LA? >> Yeah. Yeah, it's right outside my window

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because I can close the window. >> I can't I can't hear it. But if you could close the window, that probably would be fast. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's kind of very faint. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's an amazing It's It's amazing to see what's happening. Uh my whole goal in life right now is to is to find the communication channel. I know they're talking to me. I can hear them telepathically. I can see them. I can video them. I can share them with you and others. big grooves. But how can

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I tell you what they're telling me? Um, I want to show you what they're telling me. So, my whole next phase of what I'm going to do is is uh put more time in gathering the data on these orbs because it shifted suddenly at the World Forum this past December. All of a sudden, everything changed the way it started acting. And um the colors of the orbs became intense greens and yellows which I hadn't seen in 19 years. And all of a sudden I start running these these raw uh files through the

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computer and the last one uh we just discovered the orb this green orb is is is flashing up symbols numbers. >> Saw that. >> You saw that, right? >> Yeah. And so I know that's the sign what I was looking for to film to get out and film. Whatever appears I think it's going to be something that'll help change humanity. >> What do you think is that code that was in that orb that everyone was trying to decode what those symbols mean and stuff? >> I think it means March the 15th through

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the 20th. >> March 15 to the 20th, >> whatever that means. And so those dates I'm going to be on I'm going to be on it every day from right on through the rest of this year. My whole goal is I mean I got to go to France and the end of the month or next month. I'll be in France on the 20th in a special place and um yeah where something magic might happen. >> So you think that basically what's going to part of the disclosure those beings those entities will do like a public

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spectacle or something to sort of to have no shadow of the doubt that it's real so that everyone in the world can see it. I feel sure that's going to happen. It's going to just like the Fatima thing. I just don't know when. I just know I was told in 2019. I was told in 2013 that I would be able to film her and what the vision she showed me was in a desert setting up on it. There were she was up on a hillside on a cliff. This is in my book. standing uh floating glowing white. And that was the that

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interaction with her that night. It's in my book. Within two weeks, that's when the dog was healed. That's when I discovered this this thing. and um and and moreover the whole vision of I'm going to let you film me when the time is right. And I think that green orb with the numbers was the the timing that I'm looking for. It's in my head. I know it. So, >> I'm on a mission to do that. And it the only way I can find out is to get out and try. And if I come along with a

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whole film crew, not just me with a camera, but me and three or four with cameras, plus a whole film crew that films us filming that, >> right? >> We're going at it with some some uh investment, I think, and the right folks to try to to make this happen. I'm just following out her wish. >> And that's in France, you said. >> I don't know where it's going to be. France is another thing that I have to go to. I can't tell you about it. It's super secret, but it involves some

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government folks and something that happens there that's magical. Every so many years, like 20 or 30 years, something magic happens there and has been for a long, long time. >> Amazing. >> Yeah. And so, >> yeah, Chris, you know, it's so what what would you say? What part of your personality changed the most after these encounters? >> Well, uh I was I was uh to me before was a uh I was I failed at business, right? Because of the n the 2008 housing crunch in 2001. And I wrote

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about in the book, I lost $180 million, right? But I was that kind of guy that didn't even know the name of my receptionist. And I had 400 people working for me. I walk in the door every day and see her. Hey, how are you? And I kept going. I had time for nobody. Four kids at home working all the time, sick. So I was a different person. I didn't care about folks. I had no empathy. I had uh I had too much pride and um too much work and no time for anyone. And then when I lost everything, I was very sick. So I was locked in my

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head of sickness and anger and all that horrible me in the past. Right? When this came, it made me start crying. and 8 19 almost 20 years later I hadn't quit crying. So it took a hard broke worn out soul and changed it into someone who um cries at everything because I have empathy for animals. If I see a little squirrel hurt beside the road, I I just want to ball about it and I can't help it. is just part of me. Um, so I spend my time trying to help others. It's like this weekend I'm going to Austin to see

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Jason, right? But we're going to go try to help someone who's very sick. >> Yes, I know about that. >> So that that's been my whole life, Dick. I changed from a a rough, tough country boy that deer hunted with guns and shotguns and killed animals until I don't hurt a bug anymore. I can't bear to think that I killed that insect because it was running from me. It didn't want to die. It was afraid of it. So why would I just go smash it, right? >> Yeah. I'm a 100% different human than I

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was before. And the phenomenon does that to us all. They know that if you look at the oldest cases like Whitley Strieber, Travis Walton, all those guys, they came out talking about horrible things. Oh, they you know what the Willies talking about anal probes and that kind of thing. how how awful a sight or to think about that, right? But after years of the trauma, it's all switched to now a positive. The same with Travis. He had to reconcile through the trauma what happened to him to realize it really

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blessed him. And now he's a different human being. And um he really was blessed by it all. And so is there really all that many bad experiences? I know the government told me that maybe 5% of all the reports are negative. Maybe. So where are the 95%s? We never hear about those. You only hear about the negative ones. That's all they've ever shared for all these years is the negative stuff. And I know 2000 reports one year where people were reporting angelic visits calling them angels.

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>> Yeah, >> that was at Muon. And Diana Pilka told me that that she'd received 2,000 reports from them in one year that uh they were all talking about angelic They relate it to angels. So that's more common than not, but the news in the military and the government turns it into space aliens with ray guns. And >> same guys that stopping their nuclear sites aren't here to to hurt us. They're here to say, "Look, you're not going to play with these things."

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>> Yeah. Yeah. What is there? What's the biggest thing you still don't understand about your experience? >> Is the biggest thing I don't understand? There's a lot I don't understand. And I grapple with that every day. Uh it's not that I don't, you know, it's a mystery. The whole thing's a mystery. If I told you I knew everything, I'd be lying for sure. Nobody knows what we're dealing with. Um the biggest mystery to me is when that vision I saw

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uh is going to happen. a certain vision they gave me and that was that was when they came into this world in mass numbers at once and that was the catastrophic disclosure and I saw it happen and um maybe our government doesn't let that happen maybe maybe it does cuz no future's written right we can change our course and this is what the lady said you want Armageddon you can get it you Want aliens, you can get that. You want peace and love and happiness, well, you can get that, too. It's whatever we're looking for.

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Consciousness. Same thing. Think about this. Arnold, 1947, saw these little bat wings, like a half a dozen of them, flying through the Sierras, and they were moving like this. You know, they look like little wings. He drew them out like bats, right? where the news comes makes fun of poor Kenneth like they've done me and a lot of others. They said this Kenneth Arnold saw flying saucers. Well, that isn't what he said. He said if you took a saucer out of the cupboard and skipped it on the pond, the way it would do

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this, that's the way these things move. The media making fun of him said, "Oh, he saw a flying saucer." So for the next 40 or 50 years, that's all of a sudden everybody sees flying saucers, right? That's all you see. Before that time in the 1800s, the first UFO sighted in America was uh that I know of was in 1897 in Aurora, Texas, and it was a ship flying in the sky sky ship in London. And they were seeing wooden sailing vessels with blowing sails flying over London, snagging chimneys with anchors and

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breaking the chimneys off. It was all over Europe, sky ships for years. Then it turned into flying saucers. Then about 1985 or 84, Belgium says, "We see a triangle." And they put that on the news, national news. So now everybody saw that. Now we're seeing triangles in the sky. Chris comes along in 2007 and says, "I don't know what it was. It was like an orb. It was this ball of light." Well, 2007, 20 years later, that's all we're seeing is orbs. Where' the flying saucers go?

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>> Yeah. Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> So, we're not dealing with what we think we're dealing with. We're dealing with something so masterful that it mimics it mimics anything. It mimics drones. It mimics 747s. I've seen these things, an orb turn into an airplane and fly away. Wings pop out, lights start flashing, you know, blinking, blink, and there it goes. Same with helicopters. I've seen them look just like helicopters. I've mistaken it for until it got up close to me. And

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[clears throat] it happens. People look up and say, "Oh, that one's flash and that's not an orb." Well, orbs flash, too. You better pay attention. But it does that so other people won't recognize it because it don't want to harm your free will until you're ready to see it. It's not going to let you see it. >> Yeah. >> It's it's very conscientious of your free will. You >> you have to make the choice. When you go with me, if we go skywatching, I said,

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"Ka, do you want to say this?" And you say, "Yes, I do." You got to mean it. You can't be scared. If you're scared, it'll know it. So, there's where that head and that heart has to align. So, if you tell me you're afraid, well, most likely I'll try to calm that, but it will be more uh likely to be further distance away. But if you're all in, you want to see this, you believe it's able to pop out five feet from us. It flies all around. Sometimes my head

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I've been sitting still in my chair and all of a sudden it's right here this close to me hovering a ball of light this big and then right by my face. It happens with groups of 10 and 15 20 people or more flipping from people's heads and stuff. And if you look at the old Christian Byzantine paintings of the Holy Spirit, you'll see this little ball of fire over everybody's head. It wasn't me that brought that up. It was some people in the CIA that showed me that along with high level

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government folks Brady, you know, Anna, she's very Catholic. They're This is common in the Catholic tradition. So this is what we're seeing. But I can't tell you what it is. I can tell you how it acts. I can tell you the patterns. I can tell you uh you know if it'll come or not around certain people. So I know how it behaves, but I can't tell you what its grandma's name is or where it derived from. Right. But I know it hasn't eaten me in 19 years. >> Yeah. So

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>> it it it sounds like this experience seeing those things, experiencing it changed you, transformed you from like a hardened f man focused on money and and materialistic things to someone who is empathetic, open, loving. It's so it seems like if the same thing happens collectively to humanity, humanity will transform as well, will evolve into something 100%. I'm just >> kill itself, you know, or cause wars or or anything like that, right? >> Yeah. I'm just the I'm just the

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messenger. Dick asked me why me. I don't know why. I can't tell you. I have no clue. But I know what my duty is here in this thing. What I feel is I was fortunate enough to be saved by them. when I was at the lowest point in my life and believe me the next five years didn't wasn't Rossy and that's in my book that was a trial I had to go through five years of trial with the community and the church and family do I give in and say it didn't happen because the church is forcing me to say

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that I never would and On Easter 2012 when I said I give up I can't do this anymore now it's affecting my children the lady came hadn't seen her before and then I knew what these beings I had been dealing with were working for her because I was unsure about them. They're very strange looking just like the description in Daniel chapter 10 where he sees this angelic being with red eyes and glowing like topaz his whole body. Well, that's the same description I gave. I had red eyes and

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it was glowing like glass. I had no idea about his uh description until Pulka or one of these um academics shared it with me. But it's amazing the whole thing and it's all coming to to to us all. We just got to want it. We all have the power. We can all remote view. We can all experience this ourselves. just got to believe it and want it and and the people the the skeptics will never see it until they get that out of their head thinking they're right. They're not right. All of them are wrong. All the

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ones doubting, all the naysayers, they're all wrong. It is real. Proving it without a shadow of a doubt to a thousand people at once. And um we're going to continue to do that until everybody, not everybody's going to go. I mean, >> yeah. >> Yeah. But it's enough that 10% of people will believe it and experience it. And that's that's critical mass probably that's needed to to transform the world. I feel like actually my last question and then uh I remember in one of the interviews you

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were talking about the movie Adjustment Bureau and that there's a lot of truth in that movie. Can you talk about that what exactly it is? >> Yeah. Um fact Jesus I just had an experience with that. Kid you not major experience in Atlanta, Georgia. Um, The Adjustment Bureau was a movie written, I don't remember exactly, in 2012 or 2013 or 14, somewhere in there. And a guy by the name of Tim Taylor that works for NASA, he's the most elusive guy down there is they call him the Dragon, right? Well,

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he he's very high level. Um I was studying with him a while. He was studying me and um he told me one day, you know, we did a lot together. He said, he said, "You know, I work for the hammer and the hammer works for God." And I stopped. I said, "Say that again." He said, "I work for the hammer and the hammer works for God." I said, "Well, where is the hammer?" He said, "California." I'm like, "Cal?" He said, "Yeah, uh, we have a place called the Jump Room,

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California." That's what he told me. Wouldn't give me anymore. But he said that. He said, "You remember the movie?" He said, "I want you to watch the movie The Adjustment Bureau." He said, "That movie was created intentionally. It wasn't by accident. And where we're living, it is modeled a whole lot like that movie. You think you have free will where you really can decide do you want an apple or an orange, but you may not be able to decide who you're going to marry or what you're

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going to where you're going to be because there is um there are group of angelic beings around us that manage each and every one of us. certain people more so they guide your path. So I watched I watched that movie and it's the same thing as Hermes the trickster, right? He will trick you to make you go a certain direction or or guide you. I mean, it's incredible how they will um if you I I found out that if I don't try to drive the bus, I don't try to drive where I'm going and make my

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direction. I just pray about it every day. Lord, I just, you know, keep me safe and guide my path. This is what I'd like to happen. And I things start manifesting like crazy. as long as you um it's all meant to be. Uh it's crazy. I can't imagine. I wished I had time to tell you how things manifest like over and over with me. Cameras. I needed a camera. I had a a Hollywood director from Brad Payton called me one night. He said, "Chris, your camera sucks." He said, "If you ever want to make a

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movie, you got to have a better camera than what you got because it's going to get more around the world. You need more better quality proof." So, he's messed with my head, right? I had been taking pictures with this camera for five years every night in my life, videos. And I was proud of what I had, but that's all I could afford, a $1,000 camera, right? So, immediately I don't have a lot of money. um started wondering what kind of camera because I'm using night vision, right?

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What kind of camera can I get more detail at night with? Night vision don't do it. Got to have something that can see in the dark, that can see quality, uh has a lot of zoom to it. So, I started doing research and for three months I looked online. I called a videographers's cinematographer friend of mine from the History Channel. Help me help me figure out what kind of camera I need. So, we went through all these types of cameras and we landed on one that um is made by Lumix and then he designed it with the right

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lenses and all the cinematographer did. And he said, "This is what you need." And I'm like, "Oh my god, this is $6,000. I can't afford that." Right? I got that message the week before Easter saying which camera I needed. Well, on Easter of 2020 uh three, I get a phone call. I haven't told anybody, right, that I need a camera. I was embarrassed by what this guy told me, but for three months, I'm looking for one. I get a phone call from a stranger which Dick knows without

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saying her name. We stayed at her house, right? Never met her in my life. She calls me and says, well, she didn't call me. She had a friend call me. Uh Danny Sheen's niece calls me and says, "Uh, I have a very generous friend that wants to buy you a camera." I'm like, "Get the heck out of here." Yeah. She said, "Whatever kind of camera you want, she wants to buy you one. She wants to help you research." I never told Sooul other than the research. Two weeks later, she shows up to my house

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with three cameras. Not one, but three. Two other different types. But um but the power and that's happened over and over. It happened with another psionics night vision camera. I needed one badly and I was going to DC to meet Dick and I was up there with you. I was thinking, Lord, I need another psionics. I'm going to the World Forum Skywatch in December. We were talking about Franklin coming and all. I get a call from psionics during that time and says, "We want to support you and give you a camera." So,

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when I got to World Forum, the Psionics camera met me by mail when I got here. >> Amazing. >> Wow. So this is what the adjustment bureau can do. It really physically can alter and put things in your life. >> Yeah. >> I went through all that so you'd understand it's that magical and it's that that's doing it. It's not just happening. There's something intelligent that knows what you need and what you need it for. I wanted it to bring awareness to the people and so I keep

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getting all these cameras and stuff, >> but if I wanted a yacht, you know, if I wanted to yacht to go down and hang out at the beach, that's not going to happen because it's not what I need. It's not who I am. >> Right. Right. >> Right. >> As long as you're walking your path and and you know, like have a purpose and pure heart and good intentions, then they'll help you. Right. >> Yeah. Yeah. So that's that's how this whole thing it changes us all. If you

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knew that and the whole world knew that we'd be living in paradise here, right? >> Amazing. >> So this is where it's all going. >> Well, this has been this has just been a wonderful conversation. And I guess if you could summarize the core message in one sentence, what would it be? Basically the and the best way to say it, you can word it better for me, but the whole thing was basically the message is uh from the lady that she's coming into this world and she's going to uh bring about peace and

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that the world's religions have got to set aside their the differences and understand that uh they don't know what they think. and uh that because I'm this and you're that I don't agree with you. I'm going to kill you because you believe different or you think different. I do. This is the downfall of the world. This is the problem. All these religious groups are fighting. It happens every day in our own town right here. You know, you get this little guy down the street. He he's

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goes to church every day, but he talks about how bad this person is or you know they're always at each other and the religion part has put barriers up in between people. We've got to get out of this religious um way of of thinking and become more open to that we don't really know what we think we know. It's time to back up and set back and and do some discovery and uh unite the world. We're far from being united. So, how are you going to reunite religions? How can you do that with all the the

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killings and the the way people think? I mean, it so it centers around our um we need to back up and uh realize that God is real, but we got to we got to stop hurting each other and come together as a as a group of humanity. I don't know the best way to put this in words, Dick, but we got to stop our differences over religion, over faith. Uh that's that same guy from NASA. We got to get past that. Um I struggle with how >> ego is ego driven world, right? >> Yeah. >> Ego. Yeah,

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>> ego driven. You got the Muslims, they want to kill the Christians and the Christians want to kill this one or that one. And it's because they think in their thoughts that they have God in the right way. You know, your God is not my God. You worship this. Well, we all think of God as God. You know, Isis and Egypt is a the Holy Spirit. the same. They saw her that way. But when we hear that word, oh, this is a a this woman um this deity is a horrible thing. Well, no, it wasn't that way. If you go back

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and research, it's the same lady in every religion, in every culture, it's the same. We just got it all. Uh we try to claim it as ours. Right. I'm right. you're wrong when it's the same thing. And so, how do we bring that together? How do we bring it? Only God can do that. Only disclosure and to realize that it's about consciousness will change the hearts of the people. And she told me that that the only thing that can change the hearts and the minds of people is is love.

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God, consciousness, the reality, the realization that we're not alone. I get a you won't believe how many letters I have from people that been skywatching with me. Hundreds, hundreds, thousands, hundreds at the time on the beach. Some ladies, little old ladies that 80 years old, they just want to see something, right? They come out and I get all these letters. You've changed my life forever. Every week I get stacks of letters. Oh my god, I I saw you on Sean Ryan. My whole world view's changed. My life has

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changed. I'm I'm I understand now. So the the message really changes people inside. I wish I hope I answered that correctly. But that's what I see in my head. Division because of the churches. That's what's caused this whole thing. And it's never >> at the end of an age. U a friend with who's tuned into these things once said that all the old religions cling you know they know there's a huge transition coming a change that >> that is going to happen and they're

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terrified and so they hold on for dear life to their uh ideas. But actually, we're at a stage now where we're getting we're moving away from the age of Pisces, which was 2,000 years into the age of Aquarius. And it's it's a real thing. And u >> it is >> and it's huge. I mean, this year 2026, the kali yuga, I guess, you know, all these different uh signs point to a tremendous transition happening. And um I think that's what we're in the middle of, what we're going to see, and that's

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what you're talking about. and it's just a great privilege to be your friend and and uh be talking with you today about all of this. I guess that's about as far as we can go. Kai, any final words? I agree and yeah, it's a privilege talking with you and and and I hope this message can reach you know a lot of people and that everyone is able to experience what you experience and and uh what I've experienced too because I I have actually done some C5 protocols and I have seen craft or you know I've

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experienced remote viewing and I've seen the reality of it and it was like a shock factor but awakening that this stuff is real. >> Yeah. >> And the more and more people realize that the world will will shift and become a better place. I believe that. So, thank you so much. >> Yeah. Well, thank you for that. And uh I want to want to say one thing. I'm not against the church at all. I love the church and the fact that my grandson I pay for him to go to a little Baptist church. He's just five years old, right?

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I didn't want to send him to a public school where they don't know what a boy or a girl is, right? So, I sent him to where I know he'll get a good foundation. The church is very important. They feed the sick and the hungry, but the fighting in there and the the judging and all that is is the problem. And so the church has a lot of transition. We need it. We need this ability, you know, and and a lot of older people, what happens, you know, your mom or my mom, that's all she has.

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That's her Sunday night and Sunday morning thing. She's 85 and loves to go with her girlfriends and hang out at the church and cook cookies and and have daycares and that's the most beautiful thing. But the sad result uh it has to it has to change. It has to unite and it's got to come together and stop what it's doing. It's just But that's my thought. >> Okay. Well, thank you again, Chris, for being with us today. And >> any [clears throat] >> anytime if you want to do this again, we

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can. Just call me. I've been sick as a dog. I mean, bad. I never get sick with uh flu. I don't think I've had it in 20 years. But this week, Friday night, I came down with something and took me till yesterday to get out of bed. >> Glad Glad you're out of bed and great talking with you today. Thank you again. >> Thank you so much. >> Thank you.

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Interesting stuff from Chris Bledsoe. Time will tell if it happens.

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